You realize Beijing also owns nukes and ICBMs, and advanced weapon systems first provided by Bill Clinton? You might do damage but win or lose, such a war would devastate our side as well.
This is a common belief and for whatever reasons many people mistakenly believe China has a tremendous military and is a legitimate US 'rival power' too. Various ideas go around.
Look, I thought this too even after I was living in the PRC for years. It wasn't until I took a close look that I started to realize they have precious little.
At this point I don't even know if I believe they have nukes and certainly not as many as they'd claim. Their ICBMs wouldn't make it past Taiwan never mind any chance of clearing the pacific ocean.
They barely have a Navy. Japan would arm it's 'Civil Defense' and utterly annihilate every Chinese ship on the water in 6 days or less.
But more than all that, they are in the worst possible place to ever be at any kind of international war when India would delight in fucking them up on the West taking full advantage. Taiwan and half of Hong Kong would be deeeelighted to watch the PRC use up all its fireworks. Most vulnerable of all is that they are easy to siege as UK, US, France etc absolutely have the entire ocean locked whenever they feel like it. They'd run out of food and oil fast.
And add to all this the most serious flaw in PRC's entire war machine (if it ever had to act) is that they are incompetent, stupid, amateur goofs who get stumped by things like 'Linear thinking' and having most of their leadership made up of 'Rich Kids' who are .. well, imagine a bunch of Trust Fund Kids running anything but with 8th grade educations, masters degrees anyway and primarily worried about their collection of Air Jordans.
Worse than all worse things - 20 minutes after rallying their nation against the evil Americans - China splits into 6.5 different rival factions who somehow mass-murder each other to astonishing levels in horrifying ways.
Realistically, Japan today in 2020 could take over China. Japan + Taiwan would stomp Beijing. Mainland China is a 'Paper Tiger' but the paper is super shiny looking with a brick pattern and that's about it.
Looks like you know what you're talking about. But "wouldn't make it past Taiwan"? They have their own space program. Anybody that can orbit a satellite can surely achieve a partial orbit!
We may never know for sure but Taiwan is reputed to have the best of the best of US missile interceptors as that would be how the Mainland would invade or war with Taiwan.
I'd easily believe the US has rows of them floating around just in case something did get past Taiwan.
Oh they'd get into partial orbit but Taiwan's great wall of interceptors is a helluva thing.
Never get complacent, and ill be a little contrarian for this: china does have a strategy where they knock out quite a few installations/ hack into a few different places to shutdown the us military and civilian infrastructure. On top of that we have so many influential media and political types that are on chinas payroll that theyre going to root for china and demoralize us. Theyre biggest strength is appearance, and with such a shitty msm, powered by political experts and analysts the fights going to be hard on the cultural front.
However, all that really needs to be done is send in some rods from God to the three gorges dam, promise aid to people/ provinces counter to the ccp (which china will say to mexico as well in their fight against the USA), and declassify documents proving that "experts" are under chinas knee and shine a light on the peoples bankrolls and salaries that are saying china good, USA bad.
Come to think of it, chinas already doing bio warfare against us, and the 2nd batch seems nearly complete after testing it out on their own people. I think Trump should probably ban all importing of chinese goods until they get their bioterror stuff shutdown.
Edit: i am ignorant about this, by the way, these are my assumptions, so if wrong please eviscerate
chinas already doing bio warfare against us, and the 2nd batch
Something I would 'guarantee' if that meant anything - There WILL be some sort of incident between now and October where China discovers some Covid20 or some sort of novel disease and alerts everyone it may have gotten overseas to the USA via wheat, something, exports, some items.
But it won't be a real thing. There won't really be any risk but they just need the US Media Helpers to blast a story of how Trump Bad and China defeated him, grandmothers will die.
Oh yes, totally, I think they just recently tried very hard with a new version of 'Swine Flu' and I saw the Chinese media here really push that around but nobody seemed to bite.
Trump might already know he's keeping the Chinese travel ban in place until at least November 4th heh
Eh...You could honestly apply the rehtoric from the 2003 run up to China with the virus they unleashed upon the world(they intentionally left their international airports open and closed their national ones)
Except this time, it would be true...I wonder why we have not had the same reaction.................
I was...
You realize Beijing also owns nukes and ICBMs, and advanced weapon systems first provided by Bill Clinton? You might do damage but win or lose, such a war would devastate our side as well.
This is a common belief and for whatever reasons many people mistakenly believe China has a tremendous military and is a legitimate US 'rival power' too. Various ideas go around.
Look, I thought this too even after I was living in the PRC for years. It wasn't until I took a close look that I started to realize they have precious little.
At this point I don't even know if I believe they have nukes and certainly not as many as they'd claim. Their ICBMs wouldn't make it past Taiwan never mind any chance of clearing the pacific ocean.
They barely have a Navy. Japan would arm it's 'Civil Defense' and utterly annihilate every Chinese ship on the water in 6 days or less.
But more than all that, they are in the worst possible place to ever be at any kind of international war when India would delight in fucking them up on the West taking full advantage. Taiwan and half of Hong Kong would be deeeelighted to watch the PRC use up all its fireworks. Most vulnerable of all is that they are easy to siege as UK, US, France etc absolutely have the entire ocean locked whenever they feel like it. They'd run out of food and oil fast.
And add to all this the most serious flaw in PRC's entire war machine (if it ever had to act) is that they are incompetent, stupid, amateur goofs who get stumped by things like 'Linear thinking' and having most of their leadership made up of 'Rich Kids' who are .. well, imagine a bunch of Trust Fund Kids running anything but with 8th grade educations, masters degrees anyway and primarily worried about their collection of Air Jordans.
Worse than all worse things - 20 minutes after rallying their nation against the evil Americans - China splits into 6.5 different rival factions who somehow mass-murder each other to astonishing levels in horrifying ways.
Realistically, Japan today in 2020 could take over China. Japan + Taiwan would stomp Beijing. Mainland China is a 'Paper Tiger' but the paper is super shiny looking with a brick pattern and that's about it.
Looks like you know what you're talking about. But "wouldn't make it past Taiwan"? They have their own space program. Anybody that can orbit a satellite can surely achieve a partial orbit!
We may never know for sure but Taiwan is reputed to have the best of the best of US missile interceptors as that would be how the Mainland would invade or war with Taiwan. I'd easily believe the US has rows of them floating around just in case something did get past Taiwan.
Oh they'd get into partial orbit but Taiwan's great wall of interceptors is a helluva thing.
remarkably insightful. thank you for taking the time to post this.
Never get complacent, and ill be a little contrarian for this: china does have a strategy where they knock out quite a few installations/ hack into a few different places to shutdown the us military and civilian infrastructure. On top of that we have so many influential media and political types that are on chinas payroll that theyre going to root for china and demoralize us. Theyre biggest strength is appearance, and with such a shitty msm, powered by political experts and analysts the fights going to be hard on the cultural front.
However, all that really needs to be done is send in some rods from God to the three gorges dam, promise aid to people/ provinces counter to the ccp (which china will say to mexico as well in their fight against the USA), and declassify documents proving that "experts" are under chinas knee and shine a light on the peoples bankrolls and salaries that are saying china good, USA bad.
Come to think of it, chinas already doing bio warfare against us, and the 2nd batch seems nearly complete after testing it out on their own people. I think Trump should probably ban all importing of chinese goods until they get their bioterror stuff shutdown.
Edit: i am ignorant about this, by the way, these are my assumptions, so if wrong please eviscerate
Something I would 'guarantee' if that meant anything - There WILL be some sort of incident between now and October where China discovers some Covid20 or some sort of novel disease and alerts everyone it may have gotten overseas to the USA via wheat, something, exports, some items.
But it won't be a real thing. There won't really be any risk but they just need the US Media Helpers to blast a story of how Trump Bad and China defeated him, grandmothers will die.
Oh yes, totally, I think they just recently tried very hard with a new version of 'Swine Flu' and I saw the Chinese media here really push that around but nobody seemed to bite.
Trump might already know he's keeping the Chinese travel ban in place until at least November 4th heh
Eh...You could honestly apply the rehtoric from the 2003 run up to China with the virus they unleashed upon the world(they intentionally left their international airports open and closed their national ones)
Except this time, it would be true...I wonder why we have not had the same reaction.................
Maybe Saddam Hussien did not buy democrats off?