I, unfortunately, have decided that I’m going to have to leave my church due to their unrelenting BLM support and (of course) racism towards anyone who isn’t openly supporting it. When I joined this church in 2012 it was great, it was extremely spiritual and wasn’t extremist in any sort of way. They were very open and accepting of all beliefs, and I never felt ashamed to be there.
Now the entire church is only discussing how white people need to pray on our inherent evil towards minorities. One of our ministers is a black woman who was very accepting until BLM first came into existence. After that she set up a church protest to go protest the execution of a black man who had raped and murdered a woman and her child. I was NOT down with participating with that, and really considered leaving after that incident but ultimately decided to stay. From there she and another minister made it known she was not a Trump fan and now all of the leaders there are calling all white people racist. They also just recently said even other races were racist if they didn’t support BLM.
It wasnt super obvious until these past few months, but from then on things kept becoming more extremist and unaccepting. This is not a place where people can celebrate differences in thought or beliefs.
Have any of you guys had to leave a church or a community due to the rising racism of BLM / all the other shit going on? I honestly never thought I’d be hard pressed into leaving, but I don’t feel peace or love there anymore. I don’t even know how to go about finding another place to worship because I’m sure my church isn’t the only place where this is happening.
Ah, but that's the best thing about being a trad/cath, that we ignore post Vatican 2 doctrinal changes. And we get to call everyone else heretics. Beroglio literally is one, which makes it easier.
Your Pope is a heretic, how does that work with the whole Vicor of Christ thing?
Because the Church is not a man, or even an institution. It's Christ, and those who believe in him. The Church has survived degenerate Popes before, and it will survive this.
You'll have to reject Vatican 2 to reject the pope.
Several comments above, I already said that I do.
"Where is Rome, There is the Church."
"All paths lead to Rome."
St. Augustine of Hippo.
I can't resist the joke. Rome is where the heart is.
The answer is simple: In church hierarchy, the Pope is simply this: Just Another Bishop. He does happen to be the bishop in charge (someone's gotta do it), but still, just a bishop, who happens to be the Bishop of Rome.
If you read and watch him carefully, you'll notice that he skirts the edges of heresy in his secular pronouncements, but does not even think of touching it in his spiritual ones (at least that I've seen.) He has edged a bit towards it by calling a few synods, but he (fortunately!) doesn't have the testicular fortitude to put his socialist bullshit into anything approaching a catechesis.
Now, that said, a lot of us (myself included) find he is pretty unworthy of the job (and not just because of his being Jesuit, though that's bad enough). But, as sibling has said as well - we'll survive it. The nasty, ugly, brutish, and (most important of all) slow-moving bureaucracy that is the Holy See almost guarantees that.
As a non-Catholic, I can't disagree with anything you said here. Well done.
SSPX, or just normal Trad?
I wasn't aware the Society had chapters outside of Africa and Western Europe.
I've heard of a few informal US groups of folks, though nothing formal.
I'm a bit isolated out here in the Portland Archdiocese though (...and surrounded by Jesuits).