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posted ago by buttfuckmebigfoot ago by buttfuckmebigfoot +1482 / -0

I, unfortunately, have decided that I’m going to have to leave my church due to their unrelenting BLM support and (of course) racism towards anyone who isn’t openly supporting it. When I joined this church in 2012 it was great, it was extremely spiritual and wasn’t extremist in any sort of way. They were very open and accepting of all beliefs, and I never felt ashamed to be there.

Now the entire church is only discussing how white people need to pray on our inherent evil towards minorities. One of our ministers is a black woman who was very accepting until BLM first came into existence. After that she set up a church protest to go protest the execution of a black man who had raped and murdered a woman and her child. I was NOT down with participating with that, and really considered leaving after that incident but ultimately decided to stay. From there she and another minister made it known she was not a Trump fan and now all of the leaders there are calling all white people racist. They also just recently said even other races were racist if they didn’t support BLM.

It wasnt super obvious until these past few months, but from then on things kept becoming more extremist and unaccepting. This is not a place where people can celebrate differences in thought or beliefs.

Have any of you guys had to leave a church or a community due to the rising racism of BLM / all the other shit going on? I honestly never thought I’d be hard pressed into leaving, but I don’t feel peace or love there anymore. I don’t even know how to go about finding another place to worship because I’m sure my church isn’t the only place where this is happening.

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 38 points ago +38 / -0

Seconded, but...

As a member of the Tiber Swim Club (that is, a Catholic pede), I can say that there is a bit of an infestation of liberals among us (and I bet the Orthodox folks get some of that as well.)

However! Mass is Mass is Mass, and only the Homily portion of it (usually 10 minutes long, tops) provides any wiggle room for a priest to say anything outside of the norm, and 99% of 'em aren't stupid enough to piss off the laity by using it as a podium to preach leftist ideology from.

Mega fortunate that our local parish priest is not only a traditionalist, but very based in his secular ideology as well. Dude redpills every Sunday, without fail.

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EvanGRogers 9 points ago +11 / -2

For anyone considering Orthodoxy: please watch Jonathan Pageau's videos. GREAT stuff. He perfectly illustrates everything missing from Protestantism and Catholicism.

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AmericaFirstMAGA88 5 points ago +5 / -0

Do you have a link to the specific video youre referring to? I'm looking through his channel but there's so much to choose from

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EvanGRogers 2 points ago +3 / -1

You have to watch it all, most likely, to understand it as deeply as you will want.

I started with the zombie video.

Perhaps these would be along what I suggested:

Probably the most important - How Science is Nested in Religion: https://youtu.be/1w7TQ1KqaBY

The Lord's Prayer contains all of creation: https://youtu.be/pEvMa4b4BLQ

The Entire Cosmos in the Parable of the Sower: https://youtu.be/wIkGYXdSFNM

Regarding Icons: https://youtu.be/CD3E7ZjgxqQ

One of my favorites: 666 https://youtu.be/qM_kQjpAK6g

Another favorite: Kanye West https://youtu.be/dJbUDAf8COs

The inevitability of ritual: https://youtu.be/l-8r0PpdEnM

If you like it, watch the videos with his brother Matthieu, and get Matthieu's book.

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AmericaFirstMAGA88 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you

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Cardinalix 3 points ago +3 / -0

Any particular video to start with? Looks like he covers lots of subjects...

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EvanGRogers 2 points ago +2 / -0

You have to watch it all, most likely, to understand it as deeply as you will want.

I started with the zombie video.

Perhaps these would be along what I suggested:

Probably the most important - How Science is Nested in Religion: https://youtu.be/1w7TQ1KqaBY

The Lord's Prayer contains all of creation: https://youtu.be/pEvMa4b4BLQ

The Entire Cosmos in the Parable of the Sower: https://youtu.be/wIkGYXdSFNM

Regarding Icons: https://youtu.be/CD3E7ZjgxqQ

One of my favorites: 666 https://youtu.be/qM_kQjpAK6g

Another favorite: Kanye West https://youtu.be/dJbUDAf8COs

The inevitability of ritual: https://youtu.be/l-8r0PpdEnM

If you like it, watch the videos with his brother Matthieu, and get Matthieu's book.

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MooCow1980 4 points ago +4 / -0

Is he O.P. by chance?

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'll have to ask... I do know he's one of the few non-Jesuits in our archdiocese.

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MooCow1980 2 points ago +2 / -0

Praise the lord for that at least

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not sure how you could put it in a simple note... assuming you have at least one more council meeting before you go, I'd pipe up then to point out what's going on, point out what's at stake, and then implore them to get out and redpill as much as they can (probably not in those specific terms...)

Vivat Iesus,

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 1 point ago +1 / -0

No worries, brother; I wish you luck in either event.

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BiscuitsBrown 2 points ago +2 / -0

Catholics should avoid the novus ordo mass

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 1 point ago +1 / -0

Unfortunately, it's the most common one.

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chelthing 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'd like to learn to pray on Latin too. Demons hate it.

Have you heard of Fr. Ripperger? He has talks on YT that support traditionalism and other great topics.