I wonder why people thinking just repeating things over and over is going to do anything. Those black girls just kept saying the same shit over and over
I think it’s a way they are trying to make a bigger deal than it is. For example they claimed the girl what shoulder checked someone? Instead of having a conversation they just repeat over and over. It’s a way to not actually have to have a conversation and provoke the person into doing something. So they can then claim racist!
summary: 2 black women harassing a white couple as they are returning to their car. after lengthly abusive language by the black woman on camera the white couple attempt to get into their car. Entry to car blocked by the black woman on camera until husband moves to enable his wife to enter the car. They start to back out of parking space, black woman obstructs car movement, hits the vehicle.
white woman exits the car and draws gun repeately telling the black woman not to getbehind her car. black woman becomes increasingly abusive, screaming. white woman tells her husband to call police, black woman then tells her friend to call police. white woman repeatedly tells the black woman to move away from her car.
it appears the person with the camera knows the black woman on camera and makes some attempt to defuse the situation.
only thing I would suggest to remember to do differently: when drawing gun, tell the person to back away loudly. as loud as possible. repeatedly tell them what they have just done to justify drawing the gun.
"STEP AWAY"
"YOU HAVE ATTACKED ME. YOU HAVE BROKEN THE LAW"
"I WILL USE LETHAL FORCE IF YOU ATTACK ME"
"STEP AWAY, MOVE BACK"
"YOU HAVE ATTACKED ME, YOU HAVE BROKEN THE LAW"
"I WILL USE LETHAL FORCE IF YOU ATTACK ME"
etc.
In this situation you are dealing with a person whose pre-frontal cortex is not connecting with rest of the brain, you need to treat them as you would a tantruming child. repeatedly tell them they are making it worse by threatening you and you will use lethal force to defend yourself.
there's also driving off. but standing your ground is also valid. Idk the laws of this state, some states might penalise the gun user, others might allow the gun user to use lethal force if the offender appears to attack the gun holder.
as a bare minimum, the black woman needs to be charged with public nuisance.
IANAL. anyone with specific legal advice and weapons strategy training please elaborate and drop knowledge + wisdom. pretty sure the above wording could be improved.
idk how I would react to this situation. I don't currently have carry conceal or even a pistol. I can see why and now I want one.
One thing I learned from the current state of the world: If you get into an altercation (that isn't deadly or physical from the start) whip out your phone before you do anything else. We are living in a black mirror reality now where truth no longer matters. The side with more footage will win.
They tried to deescalate and leave, but were blocked. We've seen what happens to people trapped in cars when they're surrounded, which is why she got out.
And even when she did draw her firearm, none of them backed away. They kept approaching her anyways.
What the video is not clearly showing is the point right before she drew the gun.
From what it sounds like, angry black lady was behind the van as it was backing out, she slapped the van and seemed to accuse them of trying to run her over.
You can't really see it, but from my guess, she went from behind the van to the passenger door and either tried to open it, or was hitting the glass.
In my book, if you come up to my car door and open it, and are hostile and aggressive towards me, I am going to draw at that point, as you have no way to retreat.
No way am I going to just sit in my car and let someone attack me.
I wonder why people thinking just repeating things over and over is going to do anything. Those black girls just kept saying the same shit over and over
Probably the only words they know.
They (black women) always do that, its a thing, but I don't know what you call it.
It's something to do with having low intellect I am betting.
I think it’s a way they are trying to make a bigger deal than it is. For example they claimed the girl what shoulder checked someone? Instead of having a conversation they just repeat over and over. It’s a way to not actually have to have a conversation and provoke the person into doing something. So they can then claim racist!
LOUD WORDS YOU RACIST RAH RAH LET ME INTERRUPT YOU AND REPEAT MYSELF LOUD WORDS YOU RACIST RAH RAH
They didn't clap after every word. That usually makes their argument irrefutable.
Rofl
RaCiSt WhItE pEoPlE
Btw additional info: As far is i've heard she got released, but they took her pistol.
Shit, that sucks. Hope she can get in contact with a proper 2a attorney, and get that back.
No need to pull the gun if they just would have backed over the bitch.
lmao
summary: 2 black women harassing a white couple as they are returning to their car. after lengthly abusive language by the black woman on camera the white couple attempt to get into their car. Entry to car blocked by the black woman on camera until husband moves to enable his wife to enter the car. They start to back out of parking space, black woman obstructs car movement, hits the vehicle.
white woman exits the car and draws gun repeately telling the black woman not to getbehind her car. black woman becomes increasingly abusive, screaming. white woman tells her husband to call police, black woman then tells her friend to call police. white woman repeatedly tells the black woman to move away from her car.
it appears the person with the camera knows the black woman on camera and makes some attempt to defuse the situation.
only thing I would suggest to remember to do differently: when drawing gun, tell the person to back away loudly. as loud as possible. repeatedly tell them what they have just done to justify drawing the gun. "STEP AWAY" "YOU HAVE ATTACKED ME. YOU HAVE BROKEN THE LAW" "I WILL USE LETHAL FORCE IF YOU ATTACK ME" "STEP AWAY, MOVE BACK" "YOU HAVE ATTACKED ME, YOU HAVE BROKEN THE LAW" "I WILL USE LETHAL FORCE IF YOU ATTACK ME" etc.
In this situation you are dealing with a person whose pre-frontal cortex is not connecting with rest of the brain, you need to treat them as you would a tantruming child. repeatedly tell them they are making it worse by threatening you and you will use lethal force to defend yourself.
there's also driving off. but standing your ground is also valid. Idk the laws of this state, some states might penalise the gun user, others might allow the gun user to use lethal force if the offender appears to attack the gun holder.
as a bare minimum, the black woman needs to be charged with public nuisance.
IANAL. anyone with specific legal advice and weapons strategy training please elaborate and drop knowledge + wisdom. pretty sure the above wording could be improved.
idk how I would react to this situation. I don't currently have carry conceal or even a pistol. I can see why and now I want one.
One thing I learned from the current state of the world: If you get into an altercation (that isn't deadly or physical from the start) whip out your phone before you do anything else. We are living in a black mirror reality now where truth no longer matters. The side with more footage will win.
Unfortunate truth
100%. Best evidence is video.
"Day so rayciss."
These bitches are a walking parody.
She did the right thing. Those guys are crazy.
She was still in the wrong for drawing a weapon when there was no lethal threat present. She'll likely get convicted.
She's pregnant and was obviously in immediate danger. Gonna be hard to find a jury willing to convict in this circumstance.
They tried to deescalate and leave, but were blocked. We've seen what happens to people trapped in cars when they're surrounded, which is why she got out.
And even when she did draw her firearm, none of them backed away. They kept approaching her anyways.
That's exactly what they were looking for.
She got released, they just took her pistol.
No she didn't: https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/husband-wife-charged-with-felony-assault-after-gun-is-pulled-on-mom-and-daughter-in-orion-twp-after-argument
Yep i saw, it is a shame that self defense resulted in a felony charge
that looks horrible edited to include the updates while screwing the timeline.
Judges can do whatever they want, pretty much regardless of the law, so anything's possible, but I don't think it's a sure thing either way.
I wouldn't have advised she pull her gun, but I don't blame her either: accosted and insulted by multiple people blocking your retreat.
Stopping her from leaving, verbally harassing, getting in her face, attacking the vehicle... with everything going on good luck with that.
And pregnant. Expected mother gets extra points.
What the video is not clearly showing is the point right before she drew the gun.
From what it sounds like, angry black lady was behind the van as it was backing out, she slapped the van and seemed to accuse them of trying to run her over.
You can't really see it, but from my guess, she went from behind the van to the passenger door and either tried to open it, or was hitting the glass.
In my book, if you come up to my car door and open it, and are hostile and aggressive towards me, I am going to draw at that point, as you have no way to retreat.
No way am I going to just sit in my car and let someone attack me.
In this version you mostly can hear it or so. She went behind the car to block them, so they couldn't go away.