There have been numerous cases in the past weeks of black people blocking and ambushing white people in vehicles. Damn right she was in the right to pull a gun on those racist ratchets.
we are seeing mental illness. I have less and less sympathy for blacks in general after seeing far too many examples of this.
I have black friends, they are increasingly distancing themselves from 'the black movements' they want nothing to do with these movements that claim to speak for them.
It really depends on who makes the decision to file charges or not file charges and the jurisdiction. In an area where leftists run stuff, a DAs office that wanted to curry favor with leftist voters would possibly charge her with a range of violations starting with brandishing, and she would probably lose her permit, at the very least. In CA or NY, for example, the woman who presented the pistol would need a good lawyer, particularly if the prosecution was presented with video evidence which would increase chances of a successful prosecution.
People hate to hear this, but when it comes to self defense with a firearm, the legal system is your adversary, not your advocate. This is even more true in Democrat controlled jurisdictions, where they will maliciously prosecute you to set an example.
Section 2.2 is her best bet. I would hope the bar for that is lower considering she is pregnant. How much scuffle is a pregnant woman even able to sustain without injury to the baby, not much of as all. Gun pulled.
Right, but she was safely in the car and decided to get out again.
I’m not local, so I have no idea how responsive the police are in that area. If it is part of Detroit, probably not too responsive. Realistically, had she stayed in the car and the blacks had done something to the car— keyed it, or slashed a tire— the video would have never been seen again. Only because the white woman got out and pulled the pistol are we seeing the video.
Had she stayed in the car and called the police, or stayed in the car and waited for the black women to lose interest, or all of the above, this would have probably ended up as a big nothingburger. But now, I’m guessing that the white lady may need a lawyer, and that is costly, maybe $25K or more. She’ll probably lose her permit, assuming she had one, and never be able to carry legally in that locale again.
This is a good example of why it can be wise to carry OC or some less lethal alternative.
Somewhat agree, but it is an exaggeration to describe a couple of obese black women as “multiple assailants,” and my wager would be, if this went to trial, that argument would not do well in front of a jury. What if half the jury looks like the obese black harassers?
In all likelihood, it would never go to trial, but it will still cost the woman real money, and maybe more. If she can’t afford a decent lawyer, particularly, and has to rely on a PD, that could be bad for her.
And now we read in a different thread that both the whites are facing felony charges, which means no more firearm ownership if convicted, and the husband lost his job.
"Two arraigned after gun allegedly drawn over bump at Orion Twp. Chipotle"
The article states "A day after the Wednesday evening confrontation, a husband and wife were charged with assault, and the man was fired from his Oakland University job. Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper charged Jillian Wuestenberg, 32, and Eric Wuestenberg, 42, each with one count of felonious assault, a four-year felony. The Independence Township couple each possessed one loaded firearm and CPL licenses, Sheriff Mike Bouchard said.
The couple was arraigned Thursday at 52-3 District Court in Rochester Hills. Both were given a $50,000 personal bond."
"As part of the bond conditions, they must turn over all firearms, not engage in any assaultive behavior, and may not leave the state," sheriff's officials said.
Bumped into her, who gives a shit. People bump into people all the time. Oh what an emergency. Racist because they defended themselves. Fuck off with that
Exactly, this was "oh she be dissin' me" when in reality she may have gotten near her. Love the girl saying "oh these white people so racist" and "she ignant"
Such morons. They're damned lucky to still be breathing
I know my most memorable occasion with a black individual was when they went out of their way to bump into me. Started screaming that I was a racist and a slave-owner, shoved me to the ground after saying my apology wasn't good enough.
Shame it happened when I was 14 and it was the second black person I'd ever interacted with. Pretty sure that event was what made me anxious around black people I don't already know. I've sought to justify his actions in any number of ways, but ultimately, that unstable mind was a danger to me and I couldn't recognize it before I got burned. Therefore, I keep away until I can be sure their mind is stable.
It really comes down to thinking if you are fortunate in this world. Everyone has their own advantages. Heck poverty and a having a tougher background itself is an advantage. You remind her that your job is to take care of her and your family the second is the community then the country. Any privilege you have is her privilege as well.
Here we go again... using standing in front of a car as a weapon. That's when you take out your phone and video yourself running them over because they wont move and are threatening you.
How sickening. Leave people alone. This is how you get shot.
Don't people know how many people have guns?
People are on edge now and they aren't at home in the safe now they are in the holsters and on people's hips.In purses, on ankles. Don't poke that bear.
My only issue is that she didn’t have a round in the chamber, and probably should have put distance between herself and the nutjob faster. But I’m not gonna judge her cause I don’t know if I would have had the guts to take a stand like she did.
She was afraid for her safety. Well within her rights. The man was a punk ass bitch for not escalating with physical violence when they called her a bitch.
There have been numerous cases in the past weeks of black people blocking and ambushing white people in vehicles. Damn right she was in the right to pull a gun on those racist ratchets.
"He punched the shit out of that guy, I'm well within my rights to turn him into a colander."
we are seeing mental illness. I have less and less sympathy for blacks in general after seeing far too many examples of this.
I have black friends, they are increasingly distancing themselves from 'the black movements' they want nothing to do with these movements that claim to speak for them.
It really depends on who makes the decision to file charges or not file charges and the jurisdiction. In an area where leftists run stuff, a DAs office that wanted to curry favor with leftist voters would possibly charge her with a range of violations starting with brandishing, and she would probably lose her permit, at the very least. In CA or NY, for example, the woman who presented the pistol would need a good lawyer, particularly if the prosecution was presented with video evidence which would increase chances of a successful prosecution.
I don't live in Michigan, but they do have "stand your ground" and "castle doctrine" laws in place. The stand your ground law presents three conditions that have to be satisfied in order for the law to apply. I'm not convinced she would be able to establish in a court that all three conditions were satisfied.
People hate to hear this, but when it comes to self defense with a firearm, the legal system is your adversary, not your advocate. This is even more true in Democrat controlled jurisdictions, where they will maliciously prosecute you to set an example.
Section 2.2 is her best bet. I would hope the bar for that is lower considering she is pregnant. How much scuffle is a pregnant woman even able to sustain without injury to the baby, not much of as all. Gun pulled.
Right, but she was safely in the car and decided to get out again.
I’m not local, so I have no idea how responsive the police are in that area. If it is part of Detroit, probably not too responsive. Realistically, had she stayed in the car and the blacks had done something to the car— keyed it, or slashed a tire— the video would have never been seen again. Only because the white woman got out and pulled the pistol are we seeing the video.
Had she stayed in the car and called the police, or stayed in the car and waited for the black women to lose interest, or all of the above, this would have probably ended up as a big nothingburger. But now, I’m guessing that the white lady may need a lawyer, and that is costly, maybe $25K or more. She’ll probably lose her permit, assuming she had one, and never be able to carry legally in that locale again.
This is a good example of why it can be wise to carry OC or some less lethal alternative.
Somewhat agree, but it is an exaggeration to describe a couple of obese black women as “multiple assailants,” and my wager would be, if this went to trial, that argument would not do well in front of a jury. What if half the jury looks like the obese black harassers?
In all likelihood, it would never go to trial, but it will still cost the woman real money, and maybe more. If she can’t afford a decent lawyer, particularly, and has to rely on a PD, that could be bad for her.
And now we read in a different thread that both the whites are facing felony charges, which means no more firearm ownership if convicted, and the husband lost his job.
Detroit News:
"Two arraigned after gun allegedly drawn over bump at Orion Twp. Chipotle"
The article states "A day after the Wednesday evening confrontation, a husband and wife were charged with assault, and the man was fired from his Oakland University job. Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper charged Jillian Wuestenberg, 32, and Eric Wuestenberg, 42, each with one count of felonious assault, a four-year felony. The Independence Township couple each possessed one loaded firearm and CPL licenses, Sheriff Mike Bouchard said.
The couple was arraigned Thursday at 52-3 District Court in Rochester Hills. Both were given a $50,000 personal bond."
"As part of the bond conditions, they must turn over all firearms, not engage in any assaultive behavior, and may not leave the state," sheriff's officials said.
Bumped into her, who gives a shit. People bump into people all the time. Oh what an emergency. Racist because they defended themselves. Fuck off with that
Exactly, this was "oh she be dissin' me" when in reality she may have gotten near her. Love the girl saying "oh these white people so racist" and "she ignant"
Such morons. They're damned lucky to still be breathing
I know my most memorable occasion with a black individual was when they went out of their way to bump into me. Started screaming that I was a racist and a slave-owner, shoved me to the ground after saying my apology wasn't good enough.
Shame it happened when I was 14 and it was the second black person I'd ever interacted with. Pretty sure that event was what made me anxious around black people I don't already know. I've sought to justify his actions in any number of ways, but ultimately, that unstable mind was a danger to me and I couldn't recognize it before I got burned. Therefore, I keep away until I can be sure their mind is stable.
You bump into someone and you get called racist. You attack a white person and they respond, "oh these white people so racist."
As a black American, this woman and husband showed 0 racist behavior.
this educational video explains it
Holy shit how have I never seen that
Sounds like you need a divorce before things get out of hand.
She's too far gone, man.
Let it go.
You need to workout and hold frame. She is messing with you.
The best day in my life was the day I learned of and how to handle shit tests from women.
Old Reddit was good. New rEdit can fuck off.
It really comes down to thinking if you are fortunate in this world. Everyone has their own advantages. Heck poverty and a having a tougher background itself is an advantage. You remind her that your job is to take care of her and your family the second is the community then the country. Any privilege you have is her privilege as well.
These race baiting fails are exactly why the fatigue of this so called movement is setting in much faster than they expected.
I bet the GoFundMe was setup before the incident
Is it true the woman with the gun was arrested ? If she was, that is total BULLSHIT!
I think it is true, but was released later.
That is what law abiding people do. Go through the process and then walk free.
Just terrible she had to be baited into a situation then be arrested for it. This has my blood boiling.
That's why they race bait; for an opportunity to fuck with you, either directly or through the legal system.
released without even having to bail out and only charged with a misdemeanor
What was the charge, brandishing?
They keep you long enough to get the full story.
And will hand your gun over back to you.
I've watched it happen tweaker w. Knife v carrying citizen
It took HOURS for him to be released however. Should be legal unless they are arrested.
"Imma beat chyo white ass." But the white people are racist lol.
The only people in that video talking about race are the ones calling other people racist. It's a microcosm of life in Democrat Clown World.
This. Is how you create a racist.
Here we go again... using standing in front of a car as a weapon. That's when you take out your phone and video yourself running them over because they wont move and are threatening you.
They were so scared of the racist white lady that they stood in her face with a gun pointed at them and mocked her and continued to harass her.
They know they're in no danger and they know that they can get away with behaving like animals.
Amazing how a firearm turns an aggressor into pleading victim. She did nothing wrong
How sickening. Leave people alone. This is how you get shot. Don't people know how many people have guns? People are on edge now and they aren't at home in the safe now they are in the holsters and on people's hips.In purses, on ankles. Don't poke that bear.
Depends on state and local jurisdiction, but probably
It certainly looks that way, but video can be deceptive which is why more info is always needed.
wow fuck that daughter and mother, just horrible people. disgusting.
Pretty nice comments on the reddit thread I see: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hjxqo7/6_different_posts_6_different_stories_yall_need/
This is a perfect example of responsible Gun ownership and practise imo given the circumstances.
New tactic: carry a mini air horn. Every time they try to talk blast the air horn until they leave you alone.
Fight noise with noise
Another case of when keeping it real goes wrong.
My only issue is that she didn’t have a round in the chamber, and probably should have put distance between herself and the nutjob faster. But I’m not gonna judge her cause I don’t know if I would have had the guts to take a stand like she did.
I wouldn't even have to pull a gun on their fat asses. I could just stand there and laugh after they took the first swing, missed, and fell over.
She was afraid for her safety. Well within her rights. The man was a punk ass bitch for not escalating with physical violence when they called her a bitch.
That was very different than what I was lead to believe.