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posted ago by redpillthenormies ago by redpillthenormies +1602 / -0

Sheriff: Couple arrested, charged in Orion Township parking lot altercation caught on video 2 charged with felonious assault https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/07/02/sheriffs-office-investigating-orion-township-parking-lot-altercation-caught-on-video/

Husband fired https://twitter.com/oaklandu/status/1278809760490553345

The state senator (a democrat of course) has released a statement: “There is nothing acceptable about what happened in Orion Township last night at the Chipotle. It is abhorrent to think that some in this country have such a sense of self-righteousness and entitlement that the idea of pulling a gun out on an unarmed child and her mother is okay. It is not, and I condemn anyone who thinks otherwise. My heart goes out to Ms. Hill and her daughters, who may now forever be traumatized by this experience.

https://www.wxyz.com/news/oakland-co-sheriff-to-address-viral-video-of-woman-pulling-gun-on-mom-daughter-in-lake-orion

FULL VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZhdMcrBuDU

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MadRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, this is going to earn me some downvotes, but fuck it.

This is why CHL classes exist. What happened here is a textbook case of "if you pull the gun, shoot; if you don't intend to shoot, don't pull the gun." Whenever one finds himself in a situation where he can ask himself the question "Should I shoot this guy, or should I call the cops on him?" the answer is always "CALL THE COPS." No matter how badly someone is acting, you cannot shoot them unless you are defending yourself from serious injury or death.

Now, what went wrong here? Wasn't the white couple seriously threatened? Yes, they were.

However, they were able to get into their car.

This is retreat. Once you have retreated, there are no taksies-backsies: you can't come back swinging your gun around to restore your besmirched honor and dispense justice. Perhaps you were in an immediate danger, but you retreated from it and now you are not. So, fatal mistake number one here was jumping back out with a gun.

"But MadRussian, the two black chicks were screaming and banging on the car and blocking their way!"

GREAT. The car isn't a brand-new Ferrari, doesn't feel pain, and whatever dents that they inflict with their ham fists will be covered by insurance, and later you can sue them for it. There were two people in the car. This is a dream-come-true scenario to make the assailant's life difficult. Let them go apeshit outside, it's called "giving them enough rope to hang themselves with." One person films, the other calls the cops. "911, what's your emergency? - I'm being assaulted by two people in a parking lot, I'm in my car and they are banging on the car and blocking my way out, I'm really scared, please help me! I can't leave without running over one of them! I think they may try to break my windows!" Unless you live in a shithole, the cops HAVE to respond. Now you are clearly the victim and your assailants are clearly aggressors. They can say whatever they want to the cops, including the good old "that white bitch called me a n...!" - they are still the ones committing the crime when the cops arrive, and you are the victim who called the cops.

"But MadRussian, they got tired of punching my car, called me a cracker-ass bitch and left! Now my car is dented and my honor is besmirched!" Great - isn't that what you wanted in the first place (for them to leave you alone)? You've got them on film. Film them as they go, get their license plate. Get in touch with the store to see if they can be identified. You could have called them anything under the sun (including the ultimate insult, "son of a submariner!"), but they are the ones that threatened you (as shown by your recording) and damaged your property (as shown by your recording). You are the victim, they are the perps. Now the long arm of the law needs to do its job (and hopefully your local law enforcement isn't full of cucks). Ain't victimhood cool? In this case it is. You will get the dents fixed (and insurance will probably pay for it). They will have to spend money and effort defending against an assault charge which should have no problem sticking given the evidence.

"But what if one of the black chicks actually busted a window?" - you are on the phone with the 911 dispatcher. If you see that the window is about to be broken, make a spectacle of it. "They are breaking the window! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD THEY ARE COMING AFTER ME!" If the window does get busted, shoot. You are now in danger again. But don't pull the gun out and just point it - fucking SHOOT. If you just pull it and point it - you are again demonstrating that you never believed you were in sufficient danger.

From there on out it all depends on whether your state has castle doctrine and whether it covers your vehicle as well as your house. Also depends on how good your lawyer is. Having a concealed weapon means that you have the choice between being carried by six and judged by twelve. But there's still a damn good chance you WILL be judged by twelve, even if you did everything by the book. And it will still cost you money.

In short:

  • You are not a cop (unless you are). You can't use your gun for any other reason than to prevent serious injury or death of yourself and others, and (in some states) to protect property that can not be protected by any other means. If you are not in clear and present danger (in this example, the two of you are sitting in a locked car and you are being accosted by two people who aren't armed), you can't jump back out with a gun to restore order. You HAVE to let the cops do it. They are the only people authorized to do so.

  • If you have the option of shooting or calling the cops, CALL THE COPS.

  • If you pull the gun, SHOOT. If you don't intend to shoot, don't pull the gun.