Probably not. (I wrote this earlier explaining Trump - but chucks of it cover part of Desh too)
The thing to recognize is that it's run deliberately to entrap people. It isn't the "Let's order Hotdogs and Pizza" sort of side of things. This is the honeytrap suck them in an inch...
Epstein's not just a pimp, someone in intelligence is involved somewhere, and it simply isn't played that way. "Let's back up and talk about someone less recent".
Think of him like Hugh Heffner. Near Literally everyone significant has some ties at just one step. Showed up at all the "everyone invited" parties, always had the beauties ... barely legal. Ish. Every name in Hollywood - even the ones you love, everyone.
Nothing innately problematic yet. But someone (like Ghislane Maxwell perhaps) is watching whose eyes go where, who can be enticed, who cops a feel, all the little details.
"You should come to my place, 1000x better" ... handed out to the people they want in the trap. And any big parties they can sing too. Hugh Heffner's Mansion ... famous , and ... also infamous if you listen to the non-fossilized press.
This is still not "Pedo Island" - this is an event at Epstein's(Heffner's) house - plenty of people have been here too. (See: Dershowitz, Andrews, and everyone else). But since it's his party, well, he can do the catering, the wait staff, the ... massage room. A stuffy "Of course their eighteen!" or two, and a couple vats of alcohol in everyone... and now you've got them in a place that's wired to the gills for the little pats here or there, or the crossing-the-lines in the 'massage' or, whatever. People would volunteer to be Playboy Bunnies. I think Rachel Chandler ran a 'modeling agency' or something.
They're trying to catch people. From a law-enforcement perspective, this is basically nearly entrapment, but they aren't law enforcement - they're spies
There's a couple "Person X standing with Person Y" photos of all sorts of people, almost like "Stand here for a picture with the hostess! I insist!" And you can see Trump (And Andrews, and long, long list here) in some of those photos.
The problem is the next layer. "Hey, I saw you touch the caterer, she's underage you know" if they want to lean on someone, or "I have an even better place, and it doesn't fall under regular US law ..." if they think they can simply lure them there.
We haven't seen anything from this layer but allusions - but there's Epstein's Island, and there's a New Mexico ranch at the very, very least.
The known Trump bits:
Knew, and encountered Epstein - several 'standing there' sorts of photos.
Burned Epstein in a business deal
Threw Epstein out of Mar a Lago for life for (IIRC) hitting on someone Trump knew was a minor. (Daughter of a server?)
Acosta - who would later be in the Trump Admin - said "Someone in intelligence told me to stop digging here" in the old case. This is the guy your mom latched on. IMO, he was never 'close', just 'close enough that no one would ever ignore this story'.
The second Trump announced (practically) is where the 'underage rape' story comes from. I've forgotten the precise allegations, but there's a nice formal looking suit ... that has (from what I can tell) no backing. It just gets dragged up every time they need to deflect.
I don't know that I'd try to "defend Trump" so much as prepare her for "And all your heroes are pedos". I don't know a particularly good Heffner expose, but there just has to be one that's at least a warm-up for how widespread this is.
For Dershowitz - he's the guy's lawyer. "Formally" half of this is "I hired catering, and this is what I got!" all sorts of ways probably (intentionally) designed to legally protect.
On the other hand, I have no doubt there might be video of a 'massage' where we find out "What do you mean she's 17!" But for all the upset about the 17-ish types, I'm thinking there's enough truth to the whole Pizzagate thing that we're going to want to shred the rest of them.
Note that the Judge in the not-the-NY-case ordered the destruction of evidence in the Virginia Guffries case ... so still a tangled mess.
This is the re-emerging "List of people going to Pedo Island"
Adam Perry Lang, Akon (Aliaune Damala Badara Akon Thiam), Alan Dershowitz , Albero Pinto, Alec Baldwin, Alyssa Roberts, Anderson Cooper , Andrea Mitrovich, Andreas Pastrana (for Columbia president), Anthony Kiedis, Audrey Raimbault, Barak Obama , Ben Affleck , Beyonce Knowles , Bill Clinton , Bill Hammond, Bill Murray , Brian Affleck , Caren Casey, Casey Wasserman, Charlie Sheen , Chelsea Handler , Chris Tucker, Chris Wagner, Chrissy Teigen , Cindy Lopez , Claire Hazel, Courtney Love , Dan Schneider, David Koch, David Koch, David Yarovesky (Yarvol), Demi Moore , Doug Band, Ed Tuttle, Ehud Barak , Ellen Spencer, Emmy Tayler, Fleur Perry Lang, Freya Wissing, Gary Roxburgh, Ghislane Maxwell , Glen Dubin, Greg Holbert, Gwen Stefani, Gwendolyn Beck, Hank Coller, Heather Mann, Henry Rosovsky, James Franco, James Gunn , James Luc Brunel, Jean Michelle Gathy, Jeffery Epstein , Jeffery Jones, Jeffery Epstein, Jim Carrey , Jimmy Kimmel , Jo Pagino, John Kusack, John Legend, Juan Pablo Molyneux, Juliette Bryant, Justin Rolland, Kathy Griffin, Katy Perry (Katheryn Elizabeth Hudson), Kelly Spamm, Kevin Spacey, Kirsty Rodgers, Larry Summers, Larry Visoski, Laura Wasserman, Lawrence Krauss, Linda Pinto, Lisa Summers, Lynn Forester De Rothchild , Madona Ciccone , Mandy Ellison, Marc Collins-Rector, Mark Epstein, Mark Lloyd, Marshall Mathers III, Melinda Luntz, Meryl Streep , Michelle Wolf, Naomi Campbell , Natalie Blanchon(De Perrier), Nicole Junkermann, Oliver Sachs, Oprah Winfrey , Paul Hala, Paul Mellon, Paula Epstein, Peter Marino, Pharrel Williams, Quentin Taratino , Ralph Ellison, Ray Barzanna, Ricardo Legoretta, Robert Downey Jr , Rodney Slater, Ron Burke, Sandy Burger, Sarah Kellen, Seth Green, Shawn Carter, Shelley Harrison, Shelley Lewis, Sophie Biddie, Stefani Germanotta, Stephan Collins, Steven Colbert , Steven Spielberg , Steven Tyler, Svetlana Griaznova, Teala Davis, Tiffany Gramza, Tom Hanks , Tom Pritzker, Tyler Grasham, Victor Salva, Virginia Roberts , Wanda Sykes , Will Ferrell , Will Smith , Woody Allen
Lotta names on there to start explaining how the half-naked women on the plane were adult ... and then there's the island.
Dude is pretty willing to defend himself publicly. I tend to think he is innocent. Even with his involvement with OJ. The real thing is he is involved with very high level issues in our Country. Not sure why.
Probably not. (I wrote this earlier explaining Trump - but chucks of it cover part of Desh too)
The thing to recognize is that it's run deliberately to entrap people. It isn't the "Let's order Hotdogs and Pizza" sort of side of things. This is the honeytrap suck them in an inch...
Epstein's not just a pimp, someone in intelligence is involved somewhere, and it simply isn't played that way. "Let's back up and talk about someone less recent".
Think of him like Hugh Heffner. Near Literally everyone significant has some ties at just one step. Showed up at all the "everyone invited" parties, always had the beauties ... barely legal. Ish. Every name in Hollywood - even the ones you love, everyone.
Nothing innately problematic yet. But someone (like Ghislane Maxwell perhaps) is watching whose eyes go where, who can be enticed, who cops a feel, all the little details.
"You should come to my place, 1000x better" ... handed out to the people they want in the trap. And any big parties they can sing too. Hugh Heffner's Mansion ... famous , and ... also infamous if you listen to the non-fossilized press.
This is still not "Pedo Island" - this is an event at Epstein's(Heffner's) house - plenty of people have been here too. (See: Dershowitz, Andrews, and everyone else). But since it's his party, well, he can do the catering, the wait staff, the ... massage room. A stuffy "Of course their eighteen!" or two, and a couple vats of alcohol in everyone... and now you've got them in a place that's wired to the gills for the little pats here or there, or the crossing-the-lines in the 'massage' or, whatever. People would volunteer to be Playboy Bunnies. I think Rachel Chandler ran a 'modeling agency' or something.
They're trying to catch people. From a law-enforcement perspective, this is basically nearly entrapment, but they aren't law enforcement - they're spies
There's a couple "Person X standing with Person Y" photos of all sorts of people, almost like "Stand here for a picture with the hostess! I insist!" And you can see Trump (And Andrews, and long, long list here) in some of those photos.
The problem is the next layer. "Hey, I saw you touch the caterer, she's underage you know" if they want to lean on someone, or "I have an even better place, and it doesn't fall under regular US law ..." if they think they can simply lure them there.
We haven't seen anything from this layer but allusions - but there's Epstein's Island, and there's a New Mexico ranch at the very, very least.
The known Trump bits:
Knew, and encountered Epstein - several 'standing there' sorts of photos.
Burned Epstein in a business deal
Threw Epstein out of Mar a Lago for life for (IIRC) hitting on someone Trump knew was a minor. (Daughter of a server?)
Florida case got "Official resistance", 2009 Prosecutor: Trump only one that helped
Acosta - who would later be in the Trump Admin - said "Someone in intelligence told me to stop digging here" in the old case. This is the guy your mom latched on. IMO, he was never 'close', just 'close enough that no one would ever ignore this story'.
The second Trump announced (practically) is where the 'underage rape' story comes from. I've forgotten the precise allegations, but there's a nice formal looking suit ... that has (from what I can tell) no backing. It just gets dragged up every time they need to deflect.
I don't know that I'd try to "defend Trump" so much as prepare her for "And all your heroes are pedos". I don't know a particularly good Heffner expose, but there just has to be one that's at least a warm-up for how widespread this is.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5AZprGaGANs/
For Dershowitz - he's the guy's lawyer. "Formally" half of this is "I hired catering, and this is what I got!" all sorts of ways probably (intentionally) designed to legally protect.
On the other hand, I have no doubt there might be video of a 'massage' where we find out "What do you mean she's 17!" But for all the upset about the 17-ish types, I'm thinking there's enough truth to the whole Pizzagate thing that we're going to want to shred the rest of them.
Note that the Judge in the not-the-NY-case ordered the destruction of evidence in the Virginia Guffries case ... so still a tangled mess.
This is the re-emerging "List of people going to Pedo Island"
Adam Perry Lang, Akon (Aliaune Damala Badara Akon Thiam), Alan Dershowitz , Albero Pinto, Alec Baldwin, Alyssa Roberts, Anderson Cooper , Andrea Mitrovich, Andreas Pastrana (for Columbia president), Anthony Kiedis, Audrey Raimbault, Barak Obama , Ben Affleck , Beyonce Knowles , Bill Clinton , Bill Hammond, Bill Murray , Brian Affleck , Caren Casey, Casey Wasserman, Charlie Sheen , Chelsea Handler , Chris Tucker, Chris Wagner, Chrissy Teigen , Cindy Lopez , Claire Hazel, Courtney Love , Dan Schneider, David Koch, David Koch, David Yarovesky (Yarvol), Demi Moore , Doug Band, Ed Tuttle, Ehud Barak , Ellen Spencer, Emmy Tayler, Fleur Perry Lang, Freya Wissing, Gary Roxburgh, Ghislane Maxwell , Glen Dubin, Greg Holbert, Gwen Stefani, Gwendolyn Beck, Hank Coller, Heather Mann, Henry Rosovsky, James Franco, James Gunn , James Luc Brunel, Jean Michelle Gathy, Jeffery Epstein , Jeffery Jones, Jeffery Epstein, Jim Carrey , Jimmy Kimmel , Jo Pagino, John Kusack, John Legend, Juan Pablo Molyneux, Juliette Bryant, Justin Rolland, Kathy Griffin, Katy Perry (Katheryn Elizabeth Hudson), Kelly Spamm, Kevin Spacey, Kirsty Rodgers, Larry Summers, Larry Visoski, Laura Wasserman, Lawrence Krauss, Linda Pinto, Lisa Summers, Lynn Forester De Rothchild , Madona Ciccone , Mandy Ellison, Marc Collins-Rector, Mark Epstein, Mark Lloyd, Marshall Mathers III, Melinda Luntz, Meryl Streep , Michelle Wolf, Naomi Campbell , Natalie Blanchon(De Perrier), Nicole Junkermann, Oliver Sachs, Oprah Winfrey , Paul Hala, Paul Mellon, Paula Epstein, Peter Marino, Pharrel Williams, Quentin Taratino , Ralph Ellison, Ray Barzanna, Ricardo Legoretta, Robert Downey Jr , Rodney Slater, Ron Burke, Sandy Burger, Sarah Kellen, Seth Green, Shawn Carter, Shelley Harrison, Shelley Lewis, Sophie Biddie, Stefani Germanotta, Stephan Collins, Steven Colbert , Steven Spielberg , Steven Tyler, Svetlana Griaznova, Teala Davis, Tiffany Gramza, Tom Hanks , Tom Pritzker, Tyler Grasham, Victor Salva, Virginia Roberts , Wanda Sykes , Will Ferrell , Will Smith , Woody Allen
Lotta names on there to start explaining how the half-naked women on the plane were adult ... and then there's the island.
Dude is pretty willing to defend himself publicly. I tend to think he is innocent. Even with his involvement with OJ. The real thing is he is involved with very high level issues in our Country. Not sure why.
I think he received a happy ending from a mid to late underage teen. Then was let in on the surprise.
“The abused girls are telling the truth only about Epstein. He is the only criminal in this case.
For some reason, the women are making up all the stuff about all the other accused abusers.”
= What the deep state hopes you will believe. =
He kept his undies on
No. I bet Virginia Guiffre does too.....
He's a rich and prominent lawyer. I doubt he'd risk everything for a piece of underage ass.
Risking everything is precisely what appeals to them
Rich and prominent lawyers don't get that way by doing retarded things like fucking underage girls.