Not in his opinions though. He's all over the map on economics, foreign policy and domestic policy. I love the Tuck as well but his show is primarily entertainment. I think he might have a future in politics but honestly isn't it more important to have a solid commentator on our side who gets good numbers?
Julius was the conqueror, great at military strategy and gaining power, Augustus was brilliant at civil administration and strategy and his reign was largely peaceful and prosperous. Julius laid the foundation for the Roman Empire and Augustus made it a thing.
If Trump is the leader waging war on the Globalists/Deep State, he's laying the foundation for a golden age of America, but to solidify that into an actual age we need an Augustus who're capable of building on his work and taking it to the next level.
I learned most of my European history from this book, original written in 1947, so pre modern day faggotry. There might be a public domain version available.
He's looked bad at times to. He is good when he knows what is coming and can prep (CNN hacks are predictable). He is not great when he has to think on his feet.He leaves a lot of questions unasked on his show, and a lot of statements unchallenged
I’m saying the show is more than him. A lot of people involved and how most of us know Tucker. It was not a shot at his intelligence. His off-script personality is different.
I want to see him, not the the Tucker Carlson show. I think he would probably be great...as a house member or maybe even senator. He has no executive experience.
I understand your underlying sentiment, but POTUS built a multi-billion dollar real-estate empire before taking office. He had a great deal of executive experience
pretty much anybody can make him look like a fool though. The guy is a legit dumbass, and I dont even mean that in an insulting way. He's just an idiot.
??? get fucked with that kind of thinking. have fun with your man crush I'm focused on results and the barbarians at the gate. not "who will we run in 2024," it's cringe and gay and quite frankly it matters exactly fuck all of nothing right now.
You clearly want to have Tucker's babies. That's the man crush.
Trump is not a speed bump in history. That's an incredibly faggy thing for you to say. I don't know WTF you are talking about undoing 8 years in 1 day. Go ahead and focus on 2024 and build your fantasy team if you must. It's fucking beyond masturbatory and pointless.
the thread is about tucker and mentions nobody else. so who else would you be talking about?
thinking ahead is still dumb and pointless. thinking you know what Trump will accomplish or not in the next 4 years is beyond retarded hubris. if 2024 is just as important as 2020.... who should we run in 2040 then? i can't believe i have to explain how dumb of a conversation this is.
I've been thinking this for a while. His biggest weakness so far has been people like Tulsi Gabbard, they could use someone like that to try and subvert him.
Rand Paul will never be president. He's never going to have the support. All he, and libertarian party do, is subtract votes from conservatives. And have you noticed, if a bill is going to pass he'll vote against it, and publicly state "because muh principals", and same if a bill is going to fail, he'll vote for it and publicly state "but muh principals". Seriously, he does that a lot. People are starting to notice.
Rand is part of the sleazeball problem we have in the Senate and the House. He may not be as bad as some, but he's gotta go with the rest of them. I'd vote for YOU before I vote for Rand.
He was one of the few Republicans that voted for the amendment to protect our internet privacy.
I have nothing against Tucker. But, unlike Trump he has never been in charge of anything. He has always been a TV personality. That isn't the same as coming up with policies.
Seriously look at Rands voting record man, if the bill will pass, he'll vote no on it and make a statement about how his principals make him some sort of hero. He's just playing games for fortune and glory. Glory optional. Guys whole career is a PR stunt. https://i.maga.host/olH4WCS.JPG
We all know who we're voting for in '20. That's why I wanted to start a discussion on '24, we've GOT to have someone lined up that can keep the flame burning. Rand/ Tucker may not be the right people. There's a lot of mixed opinions on both.
Love how Rand fanboys are all about truth & facts and principles until I show you proof he's a con artist. Dude is never going to be president.
Tucker holds some positions I don't care for. For example, if a trucking company wants to use self-driving vehicles to replace truck drivers, Tucker is for government intervening and banning that. While I don't like the idea of our great, hard-working truck drivers losing work, I don't believe it's the government's role to get involved and tell a private company how to operate. Tucker's heart is in the right place, wanting to save American jobs, but more gov/ regulation is almost never the answer.
That said, I think he's on the right side of the issues far more often than not and I'd prefer him over most alternatives. I wouldn't mind seeing another Cruz campaign.
trucking company wants to use self-driving vehicles to replace truck drivers, Tucker is for government intervening and banning that
I'm with Tuck! BAN that shit!! I don't want a buggy, glitchy piece of Silicon Valley chucklfuckery in charge of the breaks on 30,000 pounds in charge of the breaks behind me on the freeway at 70 mph. There will never be a developer that has enough of my confidence in his code writing ability for me to be ok with that.
I getcher point, but that AI driver bullshit needs to be banned. Permanently. As do microchip implants.
he is intelligentsia. he lived most of his life in DC (probably). His comments during Trump candidacy were not good.
It's interesting that although Trump changed the politics forever by being outside of the politics, people still want politicians and commentators. Most of the time they shout "Name 2024" just because they are good speakers.
I love the Tuck, but clearly, clearly..... TRUMP > Tucker. Yes, at politics too.
Give the guy his props but stop with the deep throating already. Good dude, great commentator but c'mon already. Also, this kind of naval gazing into the future was cringe enough when we thought 2020 would be a cake walk.
Sorry but tucker doesnt have the chops. Hes an orator. Once he has to fight a trade war, Play chicken, or do a brutally tough negotiation, were screwed. Tucker is too honorable to not lay his cards on the table at the start of the poker game.
Tucker is a good choice. somewhereintheworld mentioned Don Jr., who is also a good choice. JFK Jr. might be a possibility (we'll see). Rand Paul, also mentioned, may be a good choice (his father, Ron Paul, has great principles, but Rand is stronger when it comes to politics).
The ones that scare me are Ted Cruz and Charlie Kirk. I think Cruz is a Deep State puppet, and Kirk just strikes me as a megalomaniac.
Yeah, Cruz.. I don't know. I feel like he's putting on an act. Every time he gets in front of the public, he just comes off as scripted and fake. Birther conspiracy on him too, we don't need any more of THAT in this country.
Never even considered Kirk. I want to see more PEOPLE winning elections. Get away from these career political science major groomed to play the game politicians.
The reason I put Kirk in the same "scary" boat with Cruz, is that I get the same impression from both, that they are jockeying to become the spiritual leader of the new post-Trump Conservative movement. And, as we know, corrupting and taking over every group is a globalist specialty (i.e. Controlled Opposition).
I'll go ahead and agree with you on Kirk then. I don't really pay much attention to him, I follow him on twitter because he usually seems to have a good way of wording things. But people that want power just because it's power gotta go. Like I just said to someone else, we all know who we're voting for in '20. I want to have someone lined up for '24 so we can get the ball rolling. If the Dems get control back in '24 we're screwed,m and all of this will have been for nothing.
He reads from a teleprompter and has writers. The show isn't just him. He's good on his feet and off-script but understand what you're watching when you tune in to his evening slot.
Tucker backed Sessions even though Trump wanted to fire him. Tucker thinks looking in to Strzok's emails is a waste of time and that more time should be spent on the economy.
There was once a President who picked the great Grandson of George Washington to lead his armies. He was told "No". And that person subsequently lead the opposing armies against this President.
The second person he picked wouldn't march his armies against the first person. The President and his General got into fights and the General was eventually fired. The General ran against this President as the Democrat nominee in the next election.
The President's Vice President pick eventually become President. But he became the first President ever impeached. The vast majority of the Senate voted to convict him and remove him from office.
That President now has a statue in Washington DC that Antifa/BLM tried to tear down.
The lowest unemployment rate in modern history thanks in part to a radical 21% corporate tax rate and decreasing black market labor supply by ending catch and release
200+ miles of Wall
Finally doing what 4 previous Presidents promised to do and moved that shit to Jerusalem
Ending TPP, NAFTA, Paris Accord, Iran Treaty and replacing them with new trade deals such as USAMC
First President to ever step into North Korea without Secret Service in an effort to win peace
All the while having the entire leadership of the FBI engage in a coup attempt. Getting all of these FBI agents fired. Having an illegal special counsel look for dirt for 3. years under the guise of Russia collusion (which, by the way, Tucker praised Mueller when this started) and getting impeached.
But please, tell me how Trump hasn't done jack shit.
Ah, I knew you would go after that piece of cheese.
Obama, Bush and the other Presidents were afraid to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel because they were afraid of Muslim backlash. Is that the reason you didn't want America to recognize a capital city of nation? Fear of non-American's feelings? I doubt it.
88? No. You don't seem like the White Nationalist type.
Obama did great with NK relations and R U a JeW? Bingo. I know what you are.
It's none of their business who or what we recognize. It's our policy decision and our policy decision alone. Would you bend the knee to Muslims in the Middle East on this issue because you're afraid they'll get angry? You're not alone. Bush and Obama were cowards on this as well.
It's interesting to see the aftermath of Trump's radical decision. Some Muslims hate us and wanted to kill us before. Some Muslims hate us and want to kill us after. Seems like there was no change.
He has writers and reads from a teleprompter. I love the guy and his views, but there is more to that show than just him.
He's been fairly consistent both on and off script for more than a decade as far as I can tell.
Not in his opinions though. He's all over the map on economics, foreign policy and domestic policy. I love the Tuck as well but his show is primarily entertainment. I think he might have a future in politics but honestly isn't it more important to have a solid commentator on our side who gets good numbers?
He's also still pretty young so what's the rush?
You're right, there's a lot of variables. I do think Tucker is weak on strategy and if Trump is Julius we need an Augustus to cement his legacy.
Can you expound on the Julius and Augustus idea?
Julius was the conqueror, great at military strategy and gaining power, Augustus was brilliant at civil administration and strategy and his reign was largely peaceful and prosperous. Julius laid the foundation for the Roman Empire and Augustus made it a thing.
If Trump is the leader waging war on the Globalists/Deep State, he's laying the foundation for a golden age of America, but to solidify that into an actual age we need an Augustus who're capable of building on his work and taking it to the next level.
Thanks. It is a tough time for America for sure. Hopefully we have reached or are nearing rock bottom on the political division.
Any particular recommended reading to learn more on that time in history?
I learned most of my European history from this book, original written in 1947, so pre modern day faggotry. There might be a public domain version available.
https://www.amazon.com/Outlines-European-History-Classic-Reprint/dp/1330060601
The Roman era is discussed fair early in the book, right after the Greek era. It gives a very good birds eye view of all recorder European history.
Agreed. He would need some training and need to get used to speaking without them. But he is very talented and could learn.
realistically, is there a single republican out there better than Tucker? Maybe Rand or Cruz?
Of course I'd still pick Don Jr over any of the aforementioned.
Jim Jordan
He's looked bad at times to. He is good when he knows what is coming and can prep (CNN hacks are predictable). He is not great when he has to think on his feet.He leaves a lot of questions unasked on his show, and a lot of statements unchallenged
He was not a teleprompter guy. (This is not a shot a Tucker, just explaining that show is more than him - he even said so in his debate at PoltiCon).
I’m saying the show is more than him. A lot of people involved and how most of us know Tucker. It was not a shot at his intelligence. His off-script personality is different.
I want to see him, not the the Tucker Carlson show. I think he would probably be great...as a house member or maybe even senator. He has no executive experience.
No executive experience, just principles and a love for America. This sounds similar to the guy in the White House.
I understand your underlying sentiment, but POTUS built a multi-billion dollar real-estate empire before taking office. He had a great deal of executive experience
Watch his debate vs chunk unger on you tube he tube tucker makes him look like a fool !
pretty much anybody can make him look like a fool though. The guy is a legit dumbass, and I dont even mean that in an insulting way. He's just an idiot.
If you are spending any time thinking about 2024 you aren't focusing enough on what matters.
The future matters....
??? get fucked with that kind of thinking. have fun with your man crush I'm focused on results and the barbarians at the gate. not "who will we run in 2024," it's cringe and gay and quite frankly it matters exactly fuck all of nothing right now.
You clearly want to have Tucker's babies. That's the man crush.
Trump is not a speed bump in history. That's an incredibly faggy thing for you to say. I don't know WTF you are talking about undoing 8 years in 1 day. Go ahead and focus on 2024 and build your fantasy team if you must. It's fucking beyond masturbatory and pointless.
What's with putting CoC in quotes??? Shill much
the thread is about tucker and mentions nobody else. so who else would you be talking about?
thinking ahead is still dumb and pointless. thinking you know what Trump will accomplish or not in the next 4 years is beyond retarded hubris. if 2024 is just as important as 2020.... who should we run in 2040 then? i can't believe i have to explain how dumb of a conversation this is.
you responded to me BTW
I've been thinking this for a while. His biggest weakness so far has been people like Tulsi Gabbard, they could use someone like that to try and subvert him.
I really like Rand Paul. I'm not sure Tucker would even want to be president.
Rand Paul will never be president. He's never going to have the support. All he, and libertarian party do, is subtract votes from conservatives. And have you noticed, if a bill is going to pass he'll vote against it, and publicly state "because muh principals", and same if a bill is going to fail, he'll vote for it and publicly state "but muh principals". Seriously, he does that a lot. People are starting to notice.
Rand is part of the sleazeball problem we have in the Senate and the House. He may not be as bad as some, but he's gotta go with the rest of them. I'd vote for YOU before I vote for Rand.
He was one of the few Republicans that voted for the amendment to protect our internet privacy.
I have nothing against Tucker. But, unlike Trump he has never been in charge of anything. He has always been a TV personality. That isn't the same as coming up with policies.
Seriously look at Rands voting record man, if the bill will pass, he'll vote no on it and make a statement about how his principals make him some sort of hero. He's just playing games for fortune and glory. Glory optional. Guys whole career is a PR stunt. https://i.maga.host/olH4WCS.JPG
Screenshot taken from here. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/rand_paul/412492
We all know who we're voting for in '20. That's why I wanted to start a discussion on '24, we've GOT to have someone lined up that can keep the flame burning. Rand/ Tucker may not be the right people. There's a lot of mixed opinions on both.
Love how Rand fanboys are all about truth & facts and principles until I show you proof he's a con artist. Dude is never going to be president.
Tucker holds some positions I don't care for. For example, if a trucking company wants to use self-driving vehicles to replace truck drivers, Tucker is for government intervening and banning that. While I don't like the idea of our great, hard-working truck drivers losing work, I don't believe it's the government's role to get involved and tell a private company how to operate. Tucker's heart is in the right place, wanting to save American jobs, but more gov/ regulation is almost never the answer.
That said, I think he's on the right side of the issues far more often than not and I'd prefer him over most alternatives. I wouldn't mind seeing another Cruz campaign.
I'm with Tuck! BAN that shit!! I don't want a buggy, glitchy piece of Silicon Valley chucklfuckery in charge of the breaks on 30,000 pounds in charge of the breaks behind me on the freeway at 70 mph. There will never be a developer that has enough of my confidence in his code writing ability for me to be ok with that.
I getcher point, but that AI driver bullshit needs to be banned. Permanently. As do microchip implants.
Did anyone ask Tucker?
he is intelligentsia. he lived most of his life in DC (probably). His comments during Trump candidacy were not good.
It's interesting that although Trump changed the politics forever by being outside of the politics, people still want politicians and commentators. Most of the time they shout "Name 2024" just because they are good speakers.
TV is fake. Always has been.
I disliked Trump during most of his candidacy, too, but he won me over. TV is fake, but Tucker is the real deal.
My original thought was Rand Paul, but this idea just got me hard.
Nikki Haley and the GOP establishment wouldnt allow it
Fuck 'em. If you recall, they didn't exactly hold the door open for Trump either.
Since people seem to need a reminder:
I love the Tuck, but clearly, clearly..... TRUMP > Tucker. Yes, at politics too.
Give the guy his props but stop with the deep throating already. Good dude, great commentator but c'mon already. Also, this kind of naval gazing into the future was cringe enough when we thought 2020 would be a cake walk.
Trump (Jr)/Carlson 2024
Sorry but tucker doesnt have the chops. Hes an orator. Once he has to fight a trade war, Play chicken, or do a brutally tough negotiation, were screwed. Tucker is too honorable to not lay his cards on the table at the start of the poker game.
Tucker is a national treasure.
Tucker is a good choice. somewhereintheworld mentioned Don Jr., who is also a good choice. JFK Jr. might be a possibility (we'll see). Rand Paul, also mentioned, may be a good choice (his father, Ron Paul, has great principles, but Rand is stronger when it comes to politics).
The ones that scare me are Ted Cruz and Charlie Kirk. I think Cruz is a Deep State puppet, and Kirk just strikes me as a megalomaniac.
DOn Jr gets a re-SOUNDING HELL YES from me, but I'm afraid the "no more dynasties" schtick would put an end to that.
JFK jr? No. NOPE> No more Kennedys, ever. They shot the only good one, and I'm still not entirley convinced he was all that good.
Rand. (facepalm). Here's a comment I just made about Rand: https://thedonald.win/p/GINvi1I2/x/c/12kFnGIoM8
Yeah, Cruz.. I don't know. I feel like he's putting on an act. Every time he gets in front of the public, he just comes off as scripted and fake. Birther conspiracy on him too, we don't need any more of THAT in this country.
Never even considered Kirk. I want to see more PEOPLE winning elections. Get away from these career political science major groomed to play the game politicians.
Good answers, even where you disagreed with me.
The reason I put Kirk in the same "scary" boat with Cruz, is that I get the same impression from both, that they are jockeying to become the spiritual leader of the new post-Trump Conservative movement. And, as we know, corrupting and taking over every group is a globalist specialty (i.e. Controlled Opposition).
I'll go ahead and agree with you on Kirk then. I don't really pay much attention to him, I follow him on twitter because he usually seems to have a good way of wording things. But people that want power just because it's power gotta go. Like I just said to someone else, we all know who we're voting for in '20. I want to have someone lined up for '24 so we can get the ball rolling. If the Dems get control back in '24 we're screwed,m and all of this will have been for nothing.
Exactly right.
candace Owens 2024?
I love the Tuck but...
He reads from a teleprompter and has writers. The show isn't just him. He's good on his feet and off-script but understand what you're watching when you tune in to his evening slot.
And secondly
RAND 2024
Rand Paul has dibs
Go home to mommy pls
Tucker backed Sessions even though Trump wanted to fire him. Tucker thinks looking in to Strzok's emails is a waste of time and that more time should be spent on the economy.
There was once a President who picked the great Grandson of George Washington to lead his armies. He was told "No". And that person subsequently lead the opposing armies against this President.
The second person he picked wouldn't march his armies against the first person. The President and his General got into fights and the General was eventually fired. The General ran against this President as the Democrat nominee in the next election.
The President's Vice President pick eventually become President. But he became the first President ever impeached. The vast majority of the Senate voted to convict him and remove him from office.
That President now has a statue in Washington DC that Antifa/BLM tried to tear down.
The lowest unemployment rate in modern history thanks in part to a radical 21% corporate tax rate and decreasing black market labor supply by ending catch and release
200+ miles of Wall
Finally doing what 4 previous Presidents promised to do and moved that shit to Jerusalem
Ending TPP, NAFTA, Paris Accord, Iran Treaty and replacing them with new trade deals such as USAMC
First President to ever step into North Korea without Secret Service in an effort to win peace
All the while having the entire leadership of the FBI engage in a coup attempt. Getting all of these FBI agents fired. Having an illegal special counsel look for dirt for 3. years under the guise of Russia collusion (which, by the way, Tucker praised Mueller when this started) and getting impeached.
But please, tell me how Trump hasn't done jack shit.
Ah, I knew you would go after that piece of cheese.
Obama, Bush and the other Presidents were afraid to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel because they were afraid of Muslim backlash. Is that the reason you didn't want America to recognize a capital city of nation? Fear of non-American's feelings? I doubt it.
88? No. You don't seem like the White Nationalist type.
Obama did great with NK relations and R U a JeW? Bingo. I know what you are.
It's none of their business who or what we recognize. It's our policy decision and our policy decision alone. Would you bend the knee to Muslims in the Middle East on this issue because you're afraid they'll get angry? You're not alone. Bush and Obama were cowards on this as well.
It's interesting to see the aftermath of Trump's radical decision. Some Muslims hate us and wanted to kill us before. Some Muslims hate us and want to kill us after. Seems like there was no change.