Do you know who is the largest sponsor of the WHO after the US pulled funding?
Bill Gates. You know, the creepy guy who is obsessed with vaccines. A cheap and widely available cure means they don't get to inject everyone on the planet with their poison.
Theory vs reality. Just ask those who were the guinea pigs for Gates foundation trial in Africa and India. Also look into the decline in infant deaths in the US during the shut down. 200 less a week died. Two things happened: infants to age one were home and did not go in for their required vaccinations.
Somebody's vaccines make tons of money and kill and injure people too. Choose these vaccines over certain therapies and that somebody does even better. Get the idea?
Can you imagine being a fly on the wall in Bill Gates's compound? No telling how sick this guy is. People writing off the Bill Gates theories need to take a deeper dive into BMGF and just how much influence and control they have in the medical industry. Medical tyranny is his end game.
To really put it in perspective, look at it like this: HCQ is a $20 treatment that will fully cure the <1% of people who will have severe reactions to the virus (not even counting the people who never get the virus or show any symptoms). The patent for HCQ is long since expired, so it can be made generically for cheap.
The vaccine is a patented $100 treatment that is expected to be administered to every healthy person on the planet.
That's not to mention that the vaccine doesn't even exist yet and they're already complaining about people rejecting it.
You would think that pharma research should then be done by the gov which should be impartial and look out for its people’s best interest but what actually happens is corruption, embezzlement, and incompetence. Or as GEOTUS put it 4 years ago: waste, fraud, and abuse.
Completely agree. I’ve started to think government should only exist for antitrust and to maintain a standing army. Everything else they do is usually fucked up and involves marxists
Theoretically, the way they do it now is best. Private enterprise does the work, government looks over the shoulder every now and again to make sure they aren't killing people. It's not that the system is wrong, it's just corrupt. Probably needs more people watching the watchers, but frankly government and media (who are supposed to be the backstop for when the government goes corrupt) are just too corrupt and too in each other's back pockets to run it properly. Things need to change...
Intro government books all talk about how the media’s role in all of this is to be the watchdog. It’s almost another branch or government. However, when your media gets consolidated and corrupted like ours has, a critical check fails.
Imagine how much less TDS there would be if we had a fair and partial media. The entire country’s trajectory would change because these marxists have a huge impact on local politics especially.
No. Gov't pays for some research, does not commercialize anything. It's a rough road, especially for old, unpatentable drugs which are therefore cheap.
Partly true, people with genetic fauvism died or got very very sick from the quinine medicines to protect against malaria. Using the prescriptions with the military is how fauvism was discovered. This is a tiny minority and can be tested for.
There has literally never been a single report of death due to heart issues (cardiotoxicity / arrhythmia) in ~60 years of its use worldwide... from the ACC website (amer college of cardiology)
Totally insane what the fake news has done, scaring people into not taking an extremely safe drug that could’ve saved their life in order to hurt trump. Wtf!?
Remdesivir is sorta helpful, on the level of hydroxychloroquine uncontrolled for zinc status. How and when to use it, and with whatever else, is important.
Simplified:
When you combine different medications that each can alter the normal rhythm of your heart, the additive (sometimes multiplying) effects can be more dangerous than using each one alone. Enough so that the irregular rhythm could lead to fainting or seizures (with death as a possibility).
What you don't hear is that other combinations of drugs that can also alter your heart's rhythm are routinely used in combination with not much fanfare. It is only because of the politicization of HCQ that people are acting in bad faith and have seized upon the QT prolongation side effects to scare monger.
It’s crazy broham. I remember telling some ex friends, who are TDS lvl 12 sufferers, around that time who verbally attacked me ruthlessly bc the info I was telling them was just way too crazy. The NWO is going to force us all into densely packed cities and no one will be allowed to live in suburbs anymore. Well that’s literally happening right now. The dems want to rezone the suburbs from single family dwelling to multi family dwelling. The cities will continue to swallow up more and more of the suburbs and destroy their property values. Shit is going to get worse and worse unless there really is a giant hammer about to drop on a lot of people. Still holding out for all the sealed indictments. Sorry for the incoherent ramblings.
People don’t want to wake up. It’s a scary world. I can’t say I blame them, but their weakness and failure to accept reality, that’s right in front of their faces, is disgusting.
Corona accomplishes the following: shutting down Trumps rallies, destroying economic numbers that help Trump get re-elected, pushing massive mail in voting for the fraud and giving an excuse to keep Biden hidden from public and doing rallies.
They cancelled it on FAKE data from a FAKE research institute that said giving this in 3-4 times the recommended dosage to patients may cause a few heart attacks.
If you think I am joking no. They literally had dosages that were INSANELY high and STILL only got a few extra heart attacks and then they REFUSED to disclose the data sets. Because they KNEW it was quackery. So the Lancet pulls it in SHAME and the WHO is left looking like the commie propaganda wing it is.
Both the Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine had to pull the bogus Surgisphere study. I think the guy behind it made up the data. He was managing a shell company with only one other employee who was a stripper, lol. He was probably paid by Chyna or a pharmaceutical company to put out false data which they knew would halt the use of HCQ. I'll be surprised if Surgisphere isn't charged with fraud. Frankly, the Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine are just as guilty for publishing something like this.
Some studies didn't administer the HCQ early as it was supposed to be. They gave them HCQ when they were about dead and the media ran with the headlines that HCQ doesn't work.
They also didn't give Z-pak nor zinc in some of the studies.
Yeah, I used to read research papers for a living and there are so many bad HCQ papers that are so outrageous in their design that it can only be explained by intentional sabotage. End of life treatment, poorly controlled study groups, no Zinc, high doses. etc. Meanwhile you see the opposite going on with Remdesivir, where it's also been proven ineffective in serious cases, and only mildly effective given early, a standard which wasn't afforded to HCQ. Now you see the media are on their knees for this. I can't think of any more obvious corruption and bad science since big tobacco got Doctors to endorse smoking.
It is unbelievable how openly corrupt the WHO is. Director General Tedros isn't a real doctor. He's a literal Chinese court jester put there by China. It is like out of a Bond movie or something. He's a Marxist-Lenninist who was complicit in the overthrow of the Ethiopian government and the country's bilateral foreign debt is mostly held by China.
Gates funds these outlets that put out fake studies and models using fake data like the ICL. BMGF is now the WHO's second biggest source of revenue on the books.
The Lancet that published the Surgisphere study acknowledged that the study received funding from the William Harvey Distinguished Chair in Advanced Cardiovascular Medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital which is held by Dr. Mandeep Mehra. In this regard, it is worth noting that Brigham Health has a major contract with Big Pharma’s Gilead Sciences Inc, related to the development of the Remdesivir drug for the treatment of COVID-19. The Gilead-Brigham Health project was initiated in March 2020.
The Surgisphere study intended to provide a justification to block the use of HCQ, as recommended by Dr. Anthony Fauci, advisor to president Trump. Upon reading the study (prior to its retraction), “Dr Fauci, … grinned as he told CNN that “the data shows hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment …”Referring to the Surgisphere report: “The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy for it [HCQ],” said Dr. Fauci. (quoted by CNN). Yeah,
The study claimed that 671 hospitals from 6 continents have contributed to the rapid machine learning. Even if th study's claims were true, which they aren't, this would have been a massive data breach and a major violation of global health ethics standards.
Fauci is a modern day Joseph Mengele.
These are the studies WHO relies on. It is an absolute joke. Anybody backing the WHO is a sheep. I wouldn't trust anything the WHO says. In fact, I would be inclined to do the opposite.
There are many sources and the poster is describing two trials and scandals. Try keywords Lancet Surgisphere to find info on the large (~100k) patient study that was retraced because its source data was likely fabricated. The one with the horrifying doses was the hydroxychloroquine arm of the UK RECOVERY trial. Timelike of WHO trial events,
[last week of May] Surisphere study published in the Lancet claiming no efficacy and some risk, shallow IQ HCQ-hating pundits and researchers jizz over the claimed ~100,000 patient count "Well Son, we did it with COMPUTERS." and fail to ask basic questions.
WHO halts its HCQ NO ZINC study
Growing concern over Surgisphere turns to alarm and scandal as three of the report's "authors" admit they never examined source data, and the author who "provided" the data becomes defensive and uncommunicative. Lancet expresses concern then retracts study. Company gone, surgisphere.com web taken offline.
Soon after UK RECOVERY trial ends its "HCQ NO ZINC arm" early and announces bad results. Made bad with no ZINC and horrifying dosages, and a death count that shocked even others trialing HCQ.
WHO announces restart of HCQ trial.
Gilead announces price; Under pressure Trump basically buys all the remdesivir in the world. Fauci's mission accomplished?
WHO shuts down HCQ trial again
I for one rejoice to see these crappy ZINC-less HCQ trials shut down. Researchers who 'did not do the research' to include and promote +ZINC supplement have outed themselves as practically low-IQ no matter how clever or dedicated they are. HCQ given without ZINC and given too much or too late, many needless deaths.
I feel like as a scientist involved in this sort of thing to explain how these trials work, and how the news is utterly retarded in reporting on them. I haven't looked at the specifics of this trial, but recently there has been a ton of small clinical trials that received expedited approval, so this really applies to dozens of trials.
A clinical trial will have primary end points and secondary end points, that are what is being studied but also determine when the trial will end. A lot of early clinical trials will NOT have mortality as a primary outcome. Below I will describe a hypothetical small clinical trial and how it could be reported by fake news.
Scientist want to test the dose response of HCQ on viral load. They set up the trial with 3 arms; low dose, standard dose, and high dose. Since there is already evidence that it works, there is no placebo group rather standard of care + treatment. Since viral replication is rapid, and the response to anti-virals is expected to be rapid, treatment is only for 2 days. Secondary end points include reduction in viral symptoms, side effects, and a ton of other minor things. Since they are measuring viral load in patients, they only need a small sample for statistical difference, so only 30 patients are enrolled. So, immediately after the trial starts and they say have 3/5/5 patients enrolled in each group, they see potentially dangerous side effects, say QT intervals, in the high dose group that are significantly different from the other groups. They immediately stop this arm of the trial. Now with the other 3 and 5 patients they realize that they might not get statistical significance using the original statistical analysis, and doing an AD HOC change to the statistical analysis with out corrections for multiple measurements based on changes in data is NOT how statistics work (no matter how many times damn graduate students think it does). So the trial is stopped with viral loads in the low group being mean 36 Units (95% CI 15-44 n=3) and the medium group being 16 Units (95%CI 8-22 n=5). There were not enough people to accurately asses clinical out comes. Was this trial a failure? No, because there are these things call Meta Analysis.
News = HCQ shows potentially dangerous outcomes in patients with no benefit in reducing viral load or patient survival. (Spezzed the news headline).
and doing an AD HOC change to the statistical analysis with out corrections for multiple measurements based on changes in data is NOT how statistics work (no matter how many times damn graduate students think it does).
I see now, thank you for clarifying. When I read your post, I took it as though you meant that it wasn't possible in terms of stat theory, so I had to ask :)
What that dude said, in short it can be defined as; Every time you look at the data differently, you must correct for the chance that any difference you see is do to randomness. This adds up fast.
From 2010 (in vitro ZINC + ionophore PT) a proven anti-SARS-CoV lab mechanism was known. ZINC doing the actual 'work'. Discussed in January-March within the medical community and MedCram (see here and here). Zelenko writes letter March 23, April 7 to Trump directly. On April 8 in press conference Trump mentions ZINC 5 times in one paragraph along with HCQ.
By then Fauci did oversee wave after wave of HCQ trials no ZINC, not controlled for ZINC, not even serum ZINC measured... ZINC deficiency in patients not even suggested to look for. By the end of May some ~50 US trials without ZINC, ~3 with... 50:3 is a suspicious and surreal ratio for known prior art and a crisis where anecdotal efficacy (Zelenko) should at least suggest trial with-ZINC first.
Considering that in vitro prior art the absence of ZINC mention in the literature of so many trials is again, suspicious and surreal. It may be a great deal of available ZINC is necessary and mixed but positive results of HCQ alone might have actually relied on 'incidental' ZINC patients brought from home inside their bodies. I maintain this is a shoddy way to test a drug.
Loss of smell and taste was added as a COVID symptom. Is this also ZINC deficiency on behalf of these patients? If they entered one of these sabotaged trials they're getting a megadose of ZINC ionophore with ZINC depleted or absent.
Of course I do not claim any possible late stage efficacy for the ZINC+HCQ mechanism since viral replication has already occurred. But it does seem that drug trials were sabotaged, whether by blunder or design, indistinguishable from evil.
Nobody should be relying on this globalist organization. We have data and we can get more. Let people in your own countries know that hydroxychloroquine has data going back decades safety-wise and it is an option. For those who could get a reaction, it could be stopped easily.
If the WHO did a study and changed the results to say it is not effective, do we trust them and drop all studies? No.
Science is nothing but our fallible attempt to connect observable phenomena into a logical explanation. It doesn't make it true, it just makes it explicable.
So, I think I’ve already posted this once, but my wife is working on one of the biggest HCQ trials in America. They have are having a hard time with enrollment largely due to all the negative media and how politicized this has become (thanks democrats)! Anyways, here is the real kicker....my wife works for a top university/medical center/research institute, but they aren’t taking the lead on this study. Nope, it’s a joint operation being led up by no other than....fucking Google! I’m so sick of all this bullshit!
Notice how the media are on their knees for remdesivir now, even though it only works when taken early and only barely shortens the duration of the disease, and has a side affect of increasing the chance of death - in other words, almost useless. They didn't afford HCQ the same standard, with most trials focusing on end of life treatment. This is a great example of both big pharma wanting to sell a 2,500 dollar drug, and the media hating everything Trump touches.
Just like what a doctor told me once. "Theres no long term side effects to Accutane. In fact, during the studies the researchers felt so bad for the control group because of how well Accutane was working that they ended the study and gave the control group some." WTH, how is that proper science! The point is analyzing long-term health issues, not effectiveness!
Aren’t you supposed to finish the trial and report the results? Even if it’s true it didn’t help (it does help) why not complete the trial and report those results?
Only reason to end a trial before completion would be because you won’t like the end results.
I think they're afraid of what they will find if they keep going. We can't have anymore positive news now can we. The WHO should be dismantled.
More than just dismantled. They should be SEAL team six’d
SEAL team 45?
Do you know who is the largest sponsor of the WHO after the US pulled funding?
Bill Gates. You know, the creepy guy who is obsessed with vaccines. A cheap and widely available cure means they don't get to inject everyone on the planet with their poison.
Obsessed with vaccines, which in theory should help people live longer, while at the same time wants to depopulate the planet...well which is it
In theory is right
Theory vs reality. Just ask those who were the guinea pigs for Gates foundation trial in Africa and India. Also look into the decline in infant deaths in the US during the shut down. 200 less a week died. Two things happened: infants to age one were home and did not go in for their required vaccinations.
Bruh, you got a link? I need to jump down this rabbit hole
Here’s an article taking the stats on deaths in the US last few yrs and during the shutdown. https://healthchoice.org/lessons-from-the-lockdown/
Noice, instant save.
Will do, appreciate it 👍
Somebody's vaccines make tons of money and kill and injure people too. Choose these vaccines over certain therapies and that somebody does even better. Get the idea?
Clearly those interested in selling a profitable vaccine and treatment are pulling the strings at WHO
And now there is evidence that Bill Gates experimented on the Italian population, using DNA altering vaccines.
The “Lifetime Immunization Schedule” was introduced for the first time in Italy which allowed its people to be experiments for Gates and the WHO.
Can you imagine being a fly on the wall in Bill Gates's compound? No telling how sick this guy is. People writing off the Bill Gates theories need to take a deeper dive into BMGF and just how much influence and control they have in the medical industry. Medical tyranny is his end game.
He should be charged with aiding and abetting murder.
15$ for a easily obtainable and readily available 2 week treatment or 1000$ for a vaccine thats barely been tested?
Top of the morning to you fellow internet user.
To really put it in perspective, look at it like this: HCQ is a $20 treatment that will fully cure the <1% of people who will have severe reactions to the virus (not even counting the people who never get the virus or show any symptoms). The patent for HCQ is long since expired, so it can be made generically for cheap.
The vaccine is a patented $100 treatment that is expected to be administered to every healthy person on the planet.
That's not to mention that the vaccine doesn't even exist yet and they're already complaining about people rejecting it.
You would think that pharma research should then be done by the gov which should be impartial and look out for its people’s best interest but what actually happens is corruption, embezzlement, and incompetence. Or as GEOTUS put it 4 years ago: waste, fraud, and abuse.
Completely agree. I’ve started to think government should only exist for antitrust and to maintain a standing army. Everything else they do is usually fucked up and involves marxists
Theoretically, the way they do it now is best. Private enterprise does the work, government looks over the shoulder every now and again to make sure they aren't killing people. It's not that the system is wrong, it's just corrupt. Probably needs more people watching the watchers, but frankly government and media (who are supposed to be the backstop for when the government goes corrupt) are just too corrupt and too in each other's back pockets to run it properly. Things need to change...
Intro government books all talk about how the media’s role in all of this is to be the watchdog. It’s almost another branch or government. However, when your media gets consolidated and corrupted like ours has, a critical check fails.
Imagine how much less TDS there would be if we had a fair and partial media. The entire country’s trajectory would change because these marxists have a huge impact on local politics especially.
No. Gov't pays for some research, does not commercialize anything. It's a rough road, especially for old, unpatentable drugs which are therefore cheap.
Along with the UN.
You don't trust the Wuhan Health Organization?
No, i trust Taiwan because they told the WHO what was up but they were ignored. Is the WHO racist against the Taiwanese???
🇹🇼 Tiawhan Numbah Whan China. 🇹🇼
[I’m a traitor to my own people]
I have greater trust in fresh Wuhan bat soup served at the local wet market, than I do in the WHO.
The same WHO that was on tv during the first few weeks during ABCs “we’re in this together” show. As well as bill gates.
WHO let the dogs out.
No I think the WHO that denies the existence of Taiwan.
its bullshit. The Military was giving Hydro out for malaria for years. they were not dropping dead of heart attacks
When I went to Saudi in 2012, the army said I had to take it.
Didn’t die.
Yet. Just wait. Eventually you will and it will be all HCQ’s fault
Will my death be recorded as china virus or HCQ? Both? (Both)
My brother was in Somalia. And they all took it also. Military has giving it out for years. No problems
Yep. It’s all ridiculous bs.
Wife took it for RA for years. Still not voting Democrat.
Partly true, people with genetic fauvism died or got very very sick from the quinine medicines to protect against malaria. Using the prescriptions with the military is how fauvism was discovered. This is a tiny minority and can be tested for.
There has literally never been a single report of death due to heart issues (cardiotoxicity / arrhythmia) in ~60 years of its use worldwide... from the ACC website (amer college of cardiology)
Totally insane what the fake news has done, scaring people into not taking an extremely safe drug that could’ve saved their life in order to hurt trump. Wtf!?
Soldiers weren’t given 150% the maximum recommended safe dose (1.2g)
The Remdesivir trials said it does fuckall for Covid but they're still cracking out vials at $3,100 a pop
Fauxi approved ✅👍
Remdesivir is sorta helpful, on the level of hydroxychloroquine uncontrolled for zinc status. How and when to use it, and with whatever else, is important.
The "heart attacks" would have been from the antibiotics (z-pack)
And there are alternatives to the zpack. Most docs I’ve seen use doxycycline as an alternative if needed.
I've heard that doxycycline is an alternative for heart patients.
Doxy is really well tolerated for most people. A lot of people take it for years at prophylactic doses for inflammatory skin conditions.
Explain like I'm 5 please.
Doctor of Pharmacy (PharmD) candidate here:
Simplified: When you combine different medications that each can alter the normal rhythm of your heart, the additive (sometimes multiplying) effects can be more dangerous than using each one alone. Enough so that the irregular rhythm could lead to fainting or seizures (with death as a possibility).
What you don't hear is that other combinations of drugs that can also alter your heart's rhythm are routinely used in combination with not much fanfare. It is only because of the politicization of HCQ that people are acting in bad faith and have seized upon the QT prolongation side effects to scare monger.
Man I was screaming about Agenda 21 like a decade ago and everyone thought I was crazy. Motherfuckers. Who’s crazy now? (Prob still me)
It’s crazy broham. I remember telling some ex friends, who are TDS lvl 12 sufferers, around that time who verbally attacked me ruthlessly bc the info I was telling them was just way too crazy. The NWO is going to force us all into densely packed cities and no one will be allowed to live in suburbs anymore. Well that’s literally happening right now. The dems want to rezone the suburbs from single family dwelling to multi family dwelling. The cities will continue to swallow up more and more of the suburbs and destroy their property values. Shit is going to get worse and worse unless there really is a giant hammer about to drop on a lot of people. Still holding out for all the sealed indictments. Sorry for the incoherent ramblings.
People don’t want to wake up. It’s a scary world. I can’t say I blame them, but their weakness and failure to accept reality, that’s right in front of their faces, is disgusting.
Where can I go, unless you want to school me, to get a breakdown of Agenda 21
Just search agenda 21. The rabbit hole is vast.
I think this is the official document. May have to go to the waybackmachine to see how much it's changed over the years.
https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21
Great. Now I have to spend time going down another rabbit hole lol.
Corona accomplishes the following: shutting down Trumps rallies, destroying economic numbers that help Trump get re-elected, pushing massive mail in voting for the fraud and giving an excuse to keep Biden hidden from public and doing rallies.
This wasn't their mass depopulation attempt.
This isn't about depopulation. Just fear.
Go read up on the Bill Gates and depopulation.
Agenda 21?
They cancelled it on FAKE data from a FAKE research institute that said giving this in 3-4 times the recommended dosage to patients may cause a few heart attacks.
If you think I am joking no. They literally had dosages that were INSANELY high and STILL only got a few extra heart attacks and then they REFUSED to disclose the data sets. Because they KNEW it was quackery. So the Lancet pulls it in SHAME and the WHO is left looking like the commie propaganda wing it is.
Both the Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine had to pull the bogus Surgisphere study. I think the guy behind it made up the data. He was managing a shell company with only one other employee who was a stripper, lol. He was probably paid by Chyna or a pharmaceutical company to put out false data which they knew would halt the use of HCQ. I'll be surprised if Surgisphere isn't charged with fraud. Frankly, the Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine are just as guilty for publishing something like this.
Some studies didn't administer the HCQ early as it was supposed to be. They gave them HCQ when they were about dead and the media ran with the headlines that HCQ doesn't work.
They also didn't give Z-pak nor zinc in some of the studies.
Fucking retards.
Yeah, I used to read research papers for a living and there are so many bad HCQ papers that are so outrageous in their design that it can only be explained by intentional sabotage. End of life treatment, poorly controlled study groups, no Zinc, high doses. etc. Meanwhile you see the opposite going on with Remdesivir, where it's also been proven ineffective in serious cases, and only mildly effective given early, a standard which wasn't afforded to HCQ. Now you see the media are on their knees for this. I can't think of any more obvious corruption and bad science since big tobacco got Doctors to endorse smoking.
It is unbelievable how openly corrupt the WHO is. Director General Tedros isn't a real doctor. He's a literal Chinese court jester put there by China. It is like out of a Bond movie or something. He's a Marxist-Lenninist who was complicit in the overthrow of the Ethiopian government and the country's bilateral foreign debt is mostly held by China.
Gates funds these outlets that put out fake studies and models using fake data like the ICL. BMGF is now the WHO's second biggest source of revenue on the books.
The Lancet that published the Surgisphere study acknowledged that the study received funding from the William Harvey Distinguished Chair in Advanced Cardiovascular Medicine at Brigham and Women’s Hospital which is held by Dr. Mandeep Mehra. In this regard, it is worth noting that Brigham Health has a major contract with Big Pharma’s Gilead Sciences Inc, related to the development of the Remdesivir drug for the treatment of COVID-19. The Gilead-Brigham Health project was initiated in March 2020.
The Surgisphere study intended to provide a justification to block the use of HCQ, as recommended by Dr. Anthony Fauci, advisor to president Trump. Upon reading the study (prior to its retraction), “Dr Fauci, … grinned as he told CNN that “the data shows hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment …”Referring to the Surgisphere report: “The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy for it [HCQ],” said Dr. Fauci. (quoted by CNN). Yeah, The study claimed that 671 hospitals from 6 continents have contributed to the rapid machine learning. Even if th study's claims were true, which they aren't, this would have been a massive data breach and a major violation of global health ethics standards.
Fauci is a modern day Joseph Mengele. These are the studies WHO relies on. It is an absolute joke. Anybody backing the WHO is a sheep. I wouldn't trust anything the WHO says. In fact, I would be inclined to do the opposite.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/10/surgisphere-sapan-desai-lancet-study-hydroxychloroquine-mass-audit-scientific-papers
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-africa-ethiopia-idUSKCN1LH36W
https://themadtruther.com/2020/06/14/the-corruption-of-science-the-hydroxychloroquine-lancet-study-scandal-who-was-behind-it/
Can you share source?
There are many sources and the poster is describing two trials and scandals. Try keywords Lancet Surgisphere to find info on the large (~100k) patient study that was retraced because its source data was likely fabricated. The one with the horrifying doses was the hydroxychloroquine arm of the UK RECOVERY trial. Timelike of WHO trial events,
I for one rejoice to see these crappy ZINC-less HCQ trials shut down. Researchers who 'did not do the research' to include and promote +ZINC supplement have outed themselves as practically low-IQ no matter how clever or dedicated they are. HCQ given without ZINC and given too much or too late, many needless deaths.
https://archive.is/FzGjG
Those ghouls have so much blood on their hands.
I feel like as a scientist involved in this sort of thing to explain how these trials work, and how the news is utterly retarded in reporting on them. I haven't looked at the specifics of this trial, but recently there has been a ton of small clinical trials that received expedited approval, so this really applies to dozens of trials.
A clinical trial will have primary end points and secondary end points, that are what is being studied but also determine when the trial will end. A lot of early clinical trials will NOT have mortality as a primary outcome. Below I will describe a hypothetical small clinical trial and how it could be reported by fake news.
Scientist want to test the dose response of HCQ on viral load. They set up the trial with 3 arms; low dose, standard dose, and high dose. Since there is already evidence that it works, there is no placebo group rather standard of care + treatment. Since viral replication is rapid, and the response to anti-virals is expected to be rapid, treatment is only for 2 days. Secondary end points include reduction in viral symptoms, side effects, and a ton of other minor things. Since they are measuring viral load in patients, they only need a small sample for statistical difference, so only 30 patients are enrolled. So, immediately after the trial starts and they say have 3/5/5 patients enrolled in each group, they see potentially dangerous side effects, say QT intervals, in the high dose group that are significantly different from the other groups. They immediately stop this arm of the trial. Now with the other 3 and 5 patients they realize that they might not get statistical significance using the original statistical analysis, and doing an AD HOC change to the statistical analysis with out corrections for multiple measurements based on changes in data is NOT how statistics work (no matter how many times damn graduate students think it does). So the trial is stopped with viral loads in the low group being mean 36 Units (95% CI 15-44 n=3) and the medium group being 16 Units (95%CI 8-22 n=5). There were not enough people to accurately asses clinical out comes. Was this trial a failure? No, because there are these things call Meta Analysis.
News = HCQ shows potentially dangerous outcomes in patients with no benefit in reducing viral load or patient survival. (Spezzed the news headline).
Based scientist blowing the lid off of fake science news reporting. Thank you!
Explain this?
I see now, thank you for clarifying. When I read your post, I took it as though you meant that it wasn't possible in terms of stat theory, so I had to ask :)
Ah, haha, sorry, I confused the usernames :)
What that dude said, in short it can be defined as; Every time you look at the data differently, you must correct for the chance that any difference you see is do to randomness. This adds up fast.
From 2010 (in vitro ZINC + ionophore PT) a proven anti-SARS-CoV lab mechanism was known. ZINC doing the actual 'work'. Discussed in January-March within the medical community and MedCram (see here and here). Zelenko writes letter March 23, April 7 to Trump directly. On April 8 in press conference Trump mentions ZINC 5 times in one paragraph along with HCQ.
By then Fauci did oversee wave after wave of HCQ trials no ZINC, not controlled for ZINC, not even serum ZINC measured... ZINC deficiency in patients not even suggested to look for. By the end of May some ~50 US trials without ZINC, ~3 with... 50:3 is a suspicious and surreal ratio for known prior art and a crisis where anecdotal efficacy (Zelenko) should at least suggest trial with-ZINC first.
Considering that in vitro prior art the absence of ZINC mention in the literature of so many trials is again, suspicious and surreal. It may be a great deal of available ZINC is necessary and mixed but positive results of HCQ alone might have actually relied on 'incidental' ZINC patients brought from home inside their bodies. I maintain this is a shoddy way to test a drug.
Loss of smell and taste was added as a COVID symptom. Is this also ZINC deficiency on behalf of these patients? If they entered one of these sabotaged trials they're getting a megadose of ZINC ionophore with ZINC depleted or absent.
Of course I do not claim any possible late stage efficacy for the ZINC+HCQ mechanism since viral replication has already occurred. But it does seem that drug trials were sabotaged, whether by blunder or design, indistinguishable from evil.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - the Left would rather have innocent Americans die than admit that Trump was right.
WHO is a collection of criminals under the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party.
Get out of here with your facts! I want to be scared!
--every liberal
Communism kills.
The WHO is a bunch of bullshit! I won't get fooled again
Bad news for them.
Nobody should be relying on this globalist organization. We have data and we can get more. Let people in your own countries know that hydroxychloroquine has data going back decades safety-wise and it is an option. For those who could get a reaction, it could be stopped easily.
If the WHO did a study and changed the results to say it is not effective, do we trust them and drop all studies? No.
This is going to get sensationalized.
They are afraid that Hydro is the cure for the common cold.
Science is nothing but our fallible attempt to connect observable phenomena into a logical explanation. It doesn't make it true, it just makes it explicable.
So, I think I’ve already posted this once, but my wife is working on one of the biggest HCQ trials in America. They have are having a hard time with enrollment largely due to all the negative media and how politicized this has become (thanks democrats)! Anyways, here is the real kicker....my wife works for a top university/medical center/research institute, but they aren’t taking the lead on this study. Nope, it’s a joint operation being led up by no other than....fucking Google! I’m so sick of all this bullshit!
Can we please just pick sides already. Globalists vs Freemen
and get this over with already. Just label them enemy and let USA do its thing it does to bad guys.
WHO were you, WHO - WHO - WHO WHO.
-What I will singin when the WHO kicks a massive needed kick in the ass-
They should just rename themselves to CHO at this point.
Gates has invested at least a billion in WHO over the years. He has 7 vaccine candidates incoming. Not gonna let you scrap this with a 20$ treatment.
Notice how the media are on their knees for remdesivir now, even though it only works when taken early and only barely shortens the duration of the disease, and has a side affect of increasing the chance of death - in other words, almost useless. They didn't afford HCQ the same standard, with most trials focusing on end of life treatment. This is a great example of both big pharma wanting to sell a 2,500 dollar drug, and the media hating everything Trump touches.
Are we still talking about this fucking drug? Let the science nerds sort it out.
Good thing I don't give a shit what those globalist assholes have to say.
It's like they want more people to die, or something.
Who in this day and age believes anything that comes out of any United Nations entity....
Just like what a doctor told me once. "Theres no long term side effects to Accutane. In fact, during the studies the researchers felt so bad for the control group because of how well Accutane was working that they ended the study and gave the control group some." WTH, how is that proper science! The point is analyzing long-term health issues, not effectiveness!
You can't believe anything WHO says
Orange man right?
Could this be an old story? Could it be about a trial that was paused due to two fraudulent publications that were subsequently retracted?
There is no link to the Times of Israel story, and no real indicator of the date.
WHO Resumes Study of Hydroxychloroquine for Treating COVID-19 BY ALICE PARK UPDATED: JUNE 4, 2020 3:17 PM EDT | ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: JUNE 3, 2020
https://time.com/5847664/who-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19/
Trump should ask them to release their results regardless.
What the fucking fuck?!? Either it's fine in good science or not.
Aren’t you supposed to finish the trial and report the results? Even if it’s true it didn’t help (it does help) why not complete the trial and report those results?
Only reason to end a trial before completion would be because you won’t like the end results.
Of course they would.
What the actual fuck.
Nuke the WHO along with faggot ass china
No link?
Isn’t this months old?
No.
Link
Look comments above.
1984
From their own website YESTERDAY 4th of July: https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/04-07-2020-who-discontinues-hydroxychloroquine-and-lopinavir-ritonavir-treatment-arms-for-covid-19
Here you go: https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-study-links-embattled-malaria-drug-hydroxychloroquine-to-lower-covid-19-death-rate
WHO are murderers!!!
Time to defund the WHO
It's time to label WHO as CCP and demand they be banned from US (content and studies starting from 2017).