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The crazy thing is the Charlottesville driver was actually in more danger compared to the Seattle driver before he accelerated to get away, his car was already being struck with blunt objects.
Better defend him because in their mind we all are white supremacists. Using that as an excuse to excessive jailing and suspending our judicial rights will just screw things furthermore.
The "well he is a white supremacist and deserves it" play card has already gone far enough. Fuck playing by their rules because things will get worse for us. Imagine getting arrested because you didn't kneel for blm proving you're a white supremacist for decades? That's the way we are going
White supremacist or not, all Americans have rights, and the right to due process. Can't give up the ideals or change the rules when it benefits you, and that includes by that militant black supremacist militia terrorising people.
Being a morally bankrupt person does not indict you for a crime you didn't commit. What should be have done? Not escape the mob assaulting him? Escape them "better?"
Antifa dude also bragged about chasing him off with a gun.
Also, didn’t he not even hit heather. Yes he hit some people, but he didn’t hit heather from what I saw. The land whale died of a heart complication due to the panic, so sure the whole wreck was responsible in some way but c’mon.
I guess it doesn’t help the guy was kinda nutty but he was still getting attacked first.
From the video footage, it looks like the driver hit another vehicle, which in turn, hit that part of the crowd. Whether the second vehicle hit Heyer herself isn't clear.
I don't see how you'd prove requisite intent to hit and kill HeatherHeifer from that evidence, much less beyond reasonable doubt.
Even the other white dudes that got attacked by blacks first all got charged when they were just reacting to a hostile enemy. This nation is beyond fucked.
Yeah, it was weird, they had like a good 8-10 seconds notice, and only had to move like 10 feet one way or the other, but still managed to be in exactly the wrong place unfortunately.
Allegedly, he was driving up an off ramp to get on the highway, and had an outstanding warrant for a similar crime.
If that turns out to be true, he's done. He won't receive the same degree of trial-by-media as James Fields, but if those are the facts, that won't be necessary.
You can't say "he did nothing wrong". He wasn't supposed to be driving on the closed highway. But beyond that, he did nothing wrong while encountering those cars blocking the road, and the "protestors" that were wearing black, and hiding behind those cars.
The city had closed the highway down in anticipation/support of the 'protestors' and basically chose to not oppose them. So technically it was closed by the city although I'd also argue that it was a collaborative effort between them and the 'protestors'.
Side-note: it is getting ridiculous with how much support these cities are giving these people to impede stuff like highways and other infrastructure.
I don't think the city has any authority to close the interstate. The state police probably could, but there is no way they would 'permit' people to protest on the freeway.
All these cities should be getting sued more with the incidents here and in atlanta and NY. The dem leaders should be held accountable to all the deaths because they sat back and watched these commie fucks kill children. Funny that were going to see a suit come up from the seattle roadkills fam or org. about wrongful death or some shit.
Are we FINALLY allowed to question the narrative around this guy? Because after what happened in Provo can we really say this guy didn't legitimately FEAR for his life? We may not have heard gunshots, but his account is that his life was being THREATENED by the mob before he accelerated through the crowd. I mean come on. COME THE FCK ON!
You don’t need to fake it you just need a fall person who will do violence. Then pad the interviews so no one says something that might suggest premeditated circumstances.
Vegas was cover for an attempted assassination against Saudi prince mohammad salman. Three floors above paddock was called the four seasons owned by Saudi family and Salman was in residence. There is a ton more. Look it up, alaweed al talal, arrested a month later nov 3 I think along with many in SA. Talal flipped on the attempt, involves deepstate as usual.
I can't outright dismiss conspiracy theories without evidence (because some are true), but that is a wild theory. Do you have any evidence that he's a paid actor?
Kennedy being murdered by Deepstate is a conspiracy theory too. Conspiracy theory as labeled by the media is code for deep state. Conspiracies exist and more often than not events are part of a planned conspiracy and we are the victims. Every liberal plot against us a conspiracy
James Fields, the driver from Charlottesville who was blamed for the death of Heather Heyer. He got a life sentence plus 419 years. His vehicle was surrounded completely by a violent antifa terrorist mob and they had already begun physically attacking his car and hitting it with blunt weapons before he accelerated to flee for his life. It has to be one of the most extreme miscarriages of justice and examples of blatant corruption in American legal history.
It doesn't matter if he was an actual nazi and had Hitler photos on his wall. Everyone is supposed to be equal before the law. He can only be charged for crimes that he has committed. You can disagree with his views and even personally hate him but still believe in the rule of law.
The second you create a loophole and a second class of citizen who can be imprisoned for life or killed for having the wrong political views, you've corrupted the rule of law and set a precedent that could eventually be used to include your political views.
It doesn't matter if he was an actual nazi and had Hitler photos on his wall.
Le's be realistic, assuming that any facts to that case mattered is rather optimistic.
The outcome was certain before the trial even started. They didn't want another Zimmermann trial, so they decided to make an example of this one.
There was some lefty professor who posted on facebook showing off his AR-15 saying proudly that this is the weapon he was carrying when he chased the driver off.
Like, literally admitting that they were threatening him with guns when he tried to drive away. How does anyone get convicted for that?
Oh yeah I don't doubt the guy was a racist but that sentence is too much. Just because you like Hitler doesn't mean you should go to jail for 500 years for fleeing an angry mob
That would be poison pill that would guarantee he wouldn't be re-elected. This guy got railroaded and sentenced to more time than some of our worst serial killers. But the media and public has painted him as a white supremist/Nazi and Trump just can't go there.
Here's a fact. This man had a trial with a jury and the ability to defend himself. If he wants out he can file an appeal. I don't think he deserved life in prison, but the dumbass put himself in that situation. He allowed himself to be played and setup. It's tragic, but can't hold every dumbasses hand through life.
Its a tragedy that she was killed, regardless of her being a retard, but its just like anyone else who fucks around, youre bound to meet someone that will make you find out. Protesting on a highway at night? Guarantee she wouldnt have been hit by a car if she was at home watching Sex and the City like a normal SJW.
I saw it on 4chan the day it happened. I wish I had saved it.
Dude was driving down the street normally, a guy ran out and hit the drivers quarter panel. Then his car accelerated and hit the car in front of his. The crowd started to overwhelm him and he through it in reverse and got out PF there. If he were to have stayed he would have died there.
I haven't looked for it in a while but I remember YT was scrubbing them. It's another case of selective editing to produce fake news, like when they show a cop shooting someone but not the perpetrator trying to kill the cop seconds before that.
I remember that James Fields was driving below the speed limit desperately looking for an exit to get away from the mob (before they really targeted his car), he does a hard brake because there's a wall of people blocking his way and then after someone smashes the back of his car with a blunt weapon he accelerates. Anons compiled footage together showing that he had no exit and was basically forced to drive through part of the crowd if he didn't want to stop the vehicle and become the next Reginald Denny.
Yeah, all of those people recording and all the videos don't show what happens until the vehicle is already barreling, nothing at or around the vehicle before it plows through. Everything has been curated to make it look incredibly damning. The way all the existing remaining footage is edited it's done so in a Kafkaesque manner.
To be clear this guy was objectively a piece of shit, in my opinion, but I don't doubt he got spooked and did fear for his life.
Is it true that he didn't actually hit the girl? I thought I saw people saying that she fallen over in the panic without being hit, and she died of a heart attack (obese rioter on a hot day).
If anyone has a link to that I'd love to see it, I knew he didn't just decide to plow through those people but there's no video on YT of before the incident
This guy was easy to sacrifice, because he was just some dumb white racist, who liked Hitler. But it was a total miscarriage of justice. The evidence that sealed this case for me, to prove that this guy did not plan on doing this, was that just minutes before the incident, he actually programmed his GPS to take him back home. And, I guess it turned out, that peaceful protestors forced his car to turn down this road. Why would this guy program his GPS for home, and then go the wrong way, and then plan on driving into a crowd of people?
The fat woman he hit didn't even die from her injuries like the one in Seattle. She was unhealthy and this just was the final (albeit huge) nail in the coffin.
This is going to sound pretty tin foil hat, but one of the weirdest videos I saw after Charlottesville was a reporter interviewing the father of the girl that was killed. This was a day or two after the protest, and his reaction to his daughter's death was essentially, "well, you can't dwell on this stuff, I forgive the driver". No real emotion, they may as well have asked him about the weather.
The dude was railroaded and it would blow a huge amount of political capital to address this particular injustice because nearly everyone is "already" convinced he was a racist/white supremacy killer type.
He does serve as a lesson to others: don't play in traps - Charlottesville was intended to be just what it turned out to be - a tool to damage the MAGA movement.
Effort should be to equalize by saving this guy, not bringing the innocent black guy down. Making the black guy as guilty, that's just retarded. The guy lookks like he was driving, avoided random cars in the fucking highway he saw last minute (we all zone out on the highway and speed), avoided the crash by less obvious route of the crowd of people.
The crazy thing is the Charlottesville driver was actually in more danger compared to the Seattle driver before he accelerated to get away, his car was already being struck with blunt objects.
Thank you. I watched all the video angles on liveleak. Dude was fucking railroaded.
Difficult with how much they poisoned the well here. Trump could do it at the end of his second term or - god forbid - if he downcast get reelected.
If I were Trump and I wasn't reelected, I'd pardon people left right and middle.
he should pardon uncle ted
Better defend him because in their mind we all are white supremacists. Using that as an excuse to excessive jailing and suspending our judicial rights will just screw things furthermore.
The "well he is a white supremacist and deserves it" play card has already gone far enough. Fuck playing by their rules because things will get worse for us. Imagine getting arrested because you didn't kneel for blm proving you're a white supremacist for decades? That's the way we are going
It is if you don’t have activist judges. They were in the road and damaging his vehicle
White supremacist or not, all Americans have rights, and the right to due process. Can't give up the ideals or change the rules when it benefits you, and that includes by that militant black supremacist militia terrorising people.
How is whote supremacy a problem this guy didn't walk lime the rioters do.
Being a morally bankrupt person does not indict you for a crime you didn't commit. What should be have done? Not escape the mob assaulting him? Escape them "better?"
Yes he was
Nice! I never saw those. Just heard the narrative.
I wonder what the chances of a retrial after these numerous attacks have woken America up to what this guy was facing. Probably a second term item
Antifa dude also bragged about chasing him off with a gun.
Also, didn’t he not even hit heather. Yes he hit some people, but he didn’t hit heather from what I saw. The land whale died of a heart complication due to the panic, so sure the whole wreck was responsible in some way but c’mon.
I guess it doesn’t help the guy was kinda nutty but he was still getting attacked first.
From the video footage, it looks like the driver hit another vehicle, which in turn, hit that part of the crowd. Whether the second vehicle hit Heyer herself isn't clear.
I don't see how you'd prove requisite intent to hit and kill HeatherHeifer from that evidence, much less beyond reasonable doubt.
Even the other white dudes that got attacked by blacks first all got charged when they were just reacting to a hostile enemy. This nation is beyond fucked.
And Dwayne Dixon was apparently threatening him with a gun...
I’m not gonna lie.....I’m trolling on Twitter with “Black Lives Matter and Dawit Kelete must go free!”
I have no sympathy for assholes blocking a street. Zero.
Same
I watched the video and I'm unsure if one of the two who got rolled over wasn't even trying to get into his way, completely misjudging the situation
Did you see the video one of the victims was livestreaming? It looked like they were all panicking that a car was coming, then BOOM
Yeah, it was weird, they had like a good 8-10 seconds notice, and only had to move like 10 feet one way or the other, but still managed to be in exactly the wrong place unfortunately.
It's because they're more used to shouting and whining about things in life than taking action
What about bypassing the closure by entering through the exit ramp, then turning around on the interstate and heading towards the group?
Allegedly, he was driving up an off ramp to get on the highway, and had an outstanding warrant for a similar crime.
If that turns out to be true, he's done. He won't receive the same degree of trial-by-media as James Fields, but if those are the facts, that won't be necessary.
You can't say "he did nothing wrong". He wasn't supposed to be driving on the closed highway. But beyond that, he did nothing wrong while encountering those cars blocking the road, and the "protestors" that were wearing black, and hiding behind those cars.
Closed by who. Impeded is more like it.
The city had closed the highway down in anticipation/support of the 'protestors' and basically chose to not oppose them. So technically it was closed by the city although I'd also argue that it was a collaborative effort between them and the 'protestors'.
Side-note: it is getting ridiculous with how much support these cities are giving these people to impede stuff like highways and other infrastructure.
I don't think the city has any authority to close the interstate. The state police probably could, but there is no way they would 'permit' people to protest on the freeway.
All these cities should be getting sued more with the incidents here and in atlanta and NY. The dem leaders should be held accountable to all the deaths because they sat back and watched these commie fucks kill children. Funny that were going to see a suit come up from the seattle roadkills fam or org. about wrongful death or some shit.
How do you get onto a closed highway
Go on the highway via the off ramp.
Yo mans work. God bless you.
This is a beautiful idea.
From trolling to trending with that line.
Are we FINALLY allowed to question the narrative around this guy? Because after what happened in Provo can we really say this guy didn't legitimately FEAR for his life? We may not have heard gunshots, but his account is that his life was being THREATENED by the mob before he accelerated through the crowd. I mean come on. COME THE FCK ON!
Also, apparently Heather Hayer was not struck or not seriously injured if she was. She died of a heart attack.
she was really obese which is why she had the heart attack
And a chain smoker if I remember correctly.
Her mother confirmed she died of a heart attack and she was very overweight.
Now what other “victim” sounds similar to that? 🤔
Is this guy actually in prison, or was he a paid actor?
This was a psyop. So was Vegas, Sandy Hook, and Broward. All sketchy events
Not saying they were “fake” but there is a lot of shit that we don’t know
Vegas absolutely is fishy. Biggest mass shooting and it just goes away? No one gives a shit? We know nothing about that guy.
ISIS and they hid it.
"He was an arms.... " (cuts himself off)
Brother was about to tell media his brother was an arms dealer but catches himself and quickly corrects. Very bizarre.
Brother got arrested and jailed not long after.
I don't understand why this thing got forgotten so fast. Something is really fishy there
It could be ISIS and they didnt want to give them the win, but I doubt that with Trump in office the media would love to give them the win
Gun grabbing CIA op sounds more likely given what we have seen unfold
You don’t need to fake it you just need a fall person who will do violence. Then pad the interviews so no one says something that might suggest premeditated circumstances.
Vegas was cover for an attempted assassination against Saudi prince mohammad salman. Three floors above paddock was called the four seasons owned by Saudi family and Salman was in residence. There is a ton more. Look it up, alaweed al talal, arrested a month later nov 3 I think along with many in SA. Talal flipped on the attempt, involves deepstate as usual.
My theory is that he was sheep dipped.
There's a video of him driving the car in reverse down a crowded street earlier on the day of the protest where he looks like a Disney stunt driver.
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-305-the-secret-life-of-timothy-mcveigh/
Wow, that was a rabbit hole.
I can't outright dismiss conspiracy theories without evidence (because some are true), but that is a wild theory. Do you have any evidence that he's a paid actor?
Kennedy being murdered by Deepstate is a conspiracy theory too. Conspiracy theory as labeled by the media is code for deep state. Conspiracies exist and more often than not events are part of a planned conspiracy and we are the victims. Every liberal plot against us a conspiracy
James Fields, the driver from Charlottesville who was blamed for the death of Heather Heyer. He got a life sentence plus 419 years. His vehicle was surrounded completely by a violent antifa terrorist mob and they had already begun physically attacking his car and hitting it with blunt weapons before he accelerated to flee for his life. It has to be one of the most extreme miscarriages of justice and examples of blatant corruption in American legal history.
He had a Hitler photo on his wall so multiple life sentences.
This.
It doesn't matter if he was an actual nazi and had Hitler photos on his wall. Everyone is supposed to be equal before the law. He can only be charged for crimes that he has committed. You can disagree with his views and even personally hate him but still believe in the rule of law.
The second you create a loophole and a second class of citizen who can be imprisoned for life or killed for having the wrong political views, you've corrupted the rule of law and set a precedent that could eventually be used to include your political views.
I think that was their point. He wasn't treated equally and we know why.
Le's be realistic, assuming that any facts to that case mattered is rather optimistic.
The outcome was certain before the trial even started. They didn't want another Zimmermann trial, so they decided to make an example of this one.
Maybe he did but I have a hard time believing anything the MSM has to say and their “investigators”. Maybe he did, God knows.
There was some lefty professor who posted on facebook showing off his AR-15 saying proudly that this is the weapon he was carrying when he chased the driver off.
Like, literally admitting that they were threatening him with guns when he tried to drive away. How does anyone get convicted for that?
Why is trump not pardoning this man then?
How the hell does killing one person get you ~500 years
Maybe we can get some sort of a movement to bring it to his attention? It's worth a shot at the very least
The dude's social media is too toxic. As we're lead to believe of course.
Oh yeah I don't doubt the guy was a racist but that sentence is too much. Just because you like Hitler doesn't mean you should go to jail for 500 years for fleeing an angry mob
Ah gotcha, thank you!
Then he dug his own grave.
That would be poison pill that would guarantee he wouldn't be re-elected. This guy got railroaded and sentenced to more time than some of our worst serial killers. But the media and public has painted him as a white supremist/Nazi and Trump just can't go there.
Really, we want Trump to risk re-election in order to pardon dumbass Piggly Wiggly?
Yes, facts and justice for all is more important than an election. Anyone who is willing to sell out Americans does not deserve to hold office.
Here's a fact. This man had a trial with a jury and the ability to defend himself. If he wants out he can file an appeal. I don't think he deserved life in prison, but the dumbass put himself in that situation. He allowed himself to be played and setup. It's tragic, but can't hold every dumbasses hand through life.
I thought he was mentally ill or was on some psych meds?
He was not given a fair trial after both political parties called him a terrorist.
This is absolutely moronic to hear on this website of all places. Do you think Roger Stone and Julian Assange were guilty too? Stupid sheep.
There are drug cartel leaders, top mafia hitmen and serial killers who have received smaller sentences.
While I find the political beliefs of this creature loathsome - justice was not served in that situation.
James Fields was chased by armed Antifa members.
Dwayne Dixon tells his fellow Antifa thugs to force cars into driving into people at Charlottesville
no, that's reserved to "white privilege"
There’s that white male privilege.
Its a tragedy that she was killed, regardless of her being a retard, but its just like anyone else who fucks around, youre bound to meet someone that will make you find out. Protesting on a highway at night? Guarantee she wouldnt have been hit by a car if she was at home watching Sex and the City like a normal SJW.
It's kind of a reach to even say she was "killed" since she wasn't hit by the car and died of a heart attack.
Think he's talking about the one that died the other night, not Charlottesville.
Anyone have video? I’ve only seen edited versions of basically right before he ran into her.
I saw it on 4chan the day it happened. I wish I had saved it. Dude was driving down the street normally, a guy ran out and hit the drivers quarter panel. Then his car accelerated and hit the car in front of his. The crowd started to overwhelm him and he through it in reverse and got out PF there. If he were to have stayed he would have died there.
I haven't looked for it in a while but I remember YT was scrubbing them. It's another case of selective editing to produce fake news, like when they show a cop shooting someone but not the perpetrator trying to kill the cop seconds before that.
I remember that James Fields was driving below the speed limit desperately looking for an exit to get away from the mob (before they really targeted his car), he does a hard brake because there's a wall of people blocking his way and then after someone smashes the back of his car with a blunt weapon he accelerates. Anons compiled footage together showing that he had no exit and was basically forced to drive through part of the crowd if he didn't want to stop the vehicle and become the next Reginald Denny.
Yeah, all of those people recording and all the videos don't show what happens until the vehicle is already barreling, nothing at or around the vehicle before it plows through. Everything has been curated to make it look incredibly damning. The way all the existing remaining footage is edited it's done so in a Kafkaesque manner.
To be clear this guy was objectively a piece of shit, in my opinion, but I don't doubt he got spooked and did fear for his life.
Is it true that he didn't actually hit the girl? I thought I saw people saying that she fallen over in the panic without being hit, and she died of a heart attack (obese rioter on a hot day).
True, I have seen the footage.
If anyone has a link to that I'd love to see it, I knew he didn't just decide to plow through those people but there's no video on YT of before the incident
Try liveleak, that where I saw him getting attacked and fleeing.
Spez: on mobile or I'd link. A phone research is fucking hell.
This guy was easy to sacrifice, because he was just some dumb white racist, who liked Hitler. But it was a total miscarriage of justice. The evidence that sealed this case for me, to prove that this guy did not plan on doing this, was that just minutes before the incident, he actually programmed his GPS to take him back home. And, I guess it turned out, that peaceful protestors forced his car to turn down this road. Why would this guy program his GPS for home, and then go the wrong way, and then plan on driving into a crowd of people?
Was he the first political prisoner to go to the leftist Gulag? Presidential pardon in term 2?
The fat woman he hit didn't even die from her injuries like the one in Seattle. She was unhealthy and this just was the final (albeit huge) nail in the coffin.
No.
That would be a good pardon to give.
Nope the will Apologize for the two whites girls who attacked car and the city will give him a million because they arrest Him and fire the police
This is going to sound pretty tin foil hat, but one of the weirdest videos I saw after Charlottesville was a reporter interviewing the father of the girl that was killed. This was a day or two after the protest, and his reaction to his daughter's death was essentially, "well, you can't dwell on this stuff, I forgive the driver". No real emotion, they may as well have asked him about the weather.
Trying to find the video but I know I saw this.
Nope. I believe both drivers are 100% innocent. They were under attack by mobs, and did what they had to in order to escape (duty to retreat?).
The dude was railroaded and it would blow a huge amount of political capital to address this particular injustice because nearly everyone is "already" convinced he was a racist/white supremacy killer type.
He does serve as a lesson to others: don't play in traps - Charlottesville was intended to be just what it turned out to be - a tool to damage the MAGA movement.
Make it 420 😎
His car never hit that girl.
Watch the videos.
Her autopsy showed she died from a heart attack. Not blunt trauma.
Nope!!!!!!!
So it seems I'm at an impasse.
Die at the hands of the mob in my car.
Or at the hands of the mob in the courtroom.
Effort should be to equalize by saving this guy, not bringing the innocent black guy down. Making the black guy as guilty, that's just retarded. The guy lookks like he was driving, avoided random cars in the fucking highway he saw last minute (we all zone out on the highway and speed), avoided the crash by less obvious route of the crowd of people.