You were saying that the only solution is herd immunity (through mass infection), and suggested that the reason certain countries have the pandemic under control is due to different testing and reporting.
My response is that we don't know if herd immunity is even possible, nor do we know if there are any long term health affects from covid-19, which would be a major concern if your plan is to have everyone get sick. We don't even know how long you're immune from subsequent infection after recovery. Only a few percent of the population of Italy tested positive for antibodies in a representative study. That means not many people got sick, or antibodies don't last very long.
As far as other countries doing better only because of different testing measures, as someone living in Asia and having experienced the pandemic overseas first hand, I can assure you that's not the case.
So then a vaccine won't work........so then there's no solution besides just living your life. Herd immunity not being possible would be pretty contrarian to what we know. Virus already appears to be mutating towards weaker or has already wiped out the small vulnerable population.
At end of day, no other solution besides to let it rip.
The virus hasn't been able to take hold of fully masked populations. I call that a pretty easy solution. There's no country which has full make use where the virus had continued out of control.
Let me break it down so you can understand:
Yesterday there was about:
1 new case in Taiwan,
20 in Hong Kong,
200 in Japan,
40 in Korea
They have been fully back to business as usual for months. Taiwan and Japan never really even locked down at all.
Total population: 210 million
Total new cases: about 260
Now compare that with the US, where people still refuse to wear masks.
Total population 330 million
Total new cases: 46,000 new cases in the US.
46 thousand versus less than 300 per day. If you think there is no "solution" you're not paying attention. Trump himself said that he would now wear a mask if he wasn't tested daily along with everyone he meets. The disinformation and conflicting news which you have bought into was spread by the media, the WHO, the CDC, and Fauci (who was a Clinton supporter). They are yanking the public back and forth with conflicting opinions and information to try and create chaos in order to make it impossible to stop the pandemic before the election and you are playing into their hands. The evidence is crystal clear if you could step out of your bubble.
Again, none of that proves masks for just a correlation. Interesting theories though, I agree with your last paragraph, I just disagree with the purposes behind the masks now.
I don't even understand what point you're attempting to get across.
You were saying that the only solution is herd immunity (through mass infection), and suggested that the reason certain countries have the pandemic under control is due to different testing and reporting.
My response is that we don't know if herd immunity is even possible, nor do we know if there are any long term health affects from covid-19, which would be a major concern if your plan is to have everyone get sick. We don't even know how long you're immune from subsequent infection after recovery. Only a few percent of the population of Italy tested positive for antibodies in a representative study. That means not many people got sick, or antibodies don't last very long.
As far as other countries doing better only because of different testing measures, as someone living in Asia and having experienced the pandemic overseas first hand, I can assure you that's not the case.
So then a vaccine won't work........so then there's no solution besides just living your life. Herd immunity not being possible would be pretty contrarian to what we know. Virus already appears to be mutating towards weaker or has already wiped out the small vulnerable population.
At end of day, no other solution besides to let it rip.
The virus hasn't been able to take hold of fully masked populations. I call that a pretty easy solution. There's no country which has full make use where the virus had continued out of control.
Let me break it down so you can understand:
Yesterday there was about:
They have been fully back to business as usual for months. Taiwan and Japan never really even locked down at all.
Total population: 210 million
Total new cases: about 260
Now compare that with the US, where people still refuse to wear masks.
Total population 330 million
Total new cases: 46,000 new cases in the US.
46 thousand versus less than 300 per day. If you think there is no "solution" you're not paying attention. Trump himself said that he would now wear a mask if he wasn't tested daily along with everyone he meets. The disinformation and conflicting news which you have bought into was spread by the media, the WHO, the CDC, and Fauci (who was a Clinton supporter). They are yanking the public back and forth with conflicting opinions and information to try and create chaos in order to make it impossible to stop the pandemic before the election and you are playing into their hands. The evidence is crystal clear if you could step out of your bubble.
Again, none of that proves masks for just a correlation. Interesting theories though, I agree with your last paragraph, I just disagree with the purposes behind the masks now.