These people think they're untouchable. The amount of white people ive seen get the shit kicked out of them for no reason or lose their jobs this week proves it.
He was the driver, and chances are the black women said he tried to hit them with the car. That’s about the only way they could charge him with that, because he did nothing but get in the car in the video,
What bothers me the most about all these fake news headlines is that they all neglect to point out that this was a PREGNANT WOMAN that the 15 year old bumped into then demanded an apology from. The man was right to ask them WHO THE FUCK DO YOU DO YOU THINK YOU ARE. Getting back out of the car was definitely wrong but this woman can make a plausible legal defense that she was in fear for her unborn child and her pregnancy hormones were contributing to her response to the situation.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the woman getting out of here car. Just like anyone else, she has a right to move freely throughout this country and certainly not be beholden to some raging, racist twat filled with hate and anger.
One of them went to block them from leaving. She went out to make sure they could leave without getting attacked. Nothing wrong, she was very composed considering how much they were being harassed.
It mostly depends on whether or not she had already taken “reasonable” steps to de-escalate the situation. In my opinion she went above and beyond trying to get away, and it was only when the women blocked their car from moving, and wouldn’t let them leave, that she drew her firearm.
She then retreated after drawing it, while telling the women to back off, yet those dumb fucks STILL kept advancing on her.
Also depends on whether the judge wants to activist. Right now I think anyone being worried for their safety in the BLM climate is justified in doing so, like the St Louis couple. He ripped Cuomo a new one in that interview. Cuomo acted like they were a peaceful bunch of hippies just walking around a neighborhood. They broke down their gate and stormed into private property and marched into their house under they saw him and his wife with the guns. The crowd even had gun magazines from what I read and were clanking them together yelling at them.
Seriously, what the fuck? I’d pull my gun too. Them pulling their guns is the only reason they’re probably still alive. Now that crowd is back trying to start shit with them again.
Even if the crowd had shot them, Cuomo’d be on there saying “look, I understand your pain, but it’s nothing compared to thousands of years of systemic oppression. You only got shot in the leg, and you can probably walk again some day. People are being hunted out there by police and dying. Who said protests have to be peaceful?”
What can we do? Clearly some police will side with the mob just to keep them happy. Its crazy. She should have never been arrested. I hope she settles only when the cops are removed.
Also don’t forget that the reason this was going down was because she “bumped into someone,” which is obviously bullshit. That makes it even more reasonable because either they are completely insane or lying about the reason they want to keep getting closer to you and lay their hands on you and your vehicle.
She is right by 'COMMON LAW', but by muncipality and the court of the media (look up the etomology of that word) her and her husband will be made an example of.
Someone get 'Common Law' constitutional edicts to her lawyer please.
The OP didn't post saying that but I suppose if you read it versus the other headlines, you'd find the rest lacking in appropriate info comparatively. So you're right in that regard but clarifying the point that Savanah Hernandez is not of the Lamestream media would of made sense imho.
When 2 protesters got hit on the freeway by a BLACK DRIVER their headline was - protesters hit by “luxury car”
So many of us see through their bullshit now.
When a 19 year old black guy was shot in CHAZ he claimed it was white supremacists at the barrier but then proceeded not to help the police identify the shooter. We know the shooter was black but most idiots will now think it was a white supremacist.
I think the real question is at what point has the MSM crossed the line into aiding and abetting a violent insurrection movement funded and directed by a foreign power as a means to subjugate and conquer without the risks of overt military force.
Demonizing Americans who protect themselves from assault by blm supporters via omission of important context may fall into that category.
This has been happening to me too after a lifetime of believing otherwise. I think this is what they want so they have an excuse to kill us. Fact is I can't and don't hate all of them but when I see things like this, when I see a rapper grabbing his dick, when I see them twerking, when I hear them screaming about racys the n-word now does escape my mouth whereas I never gave a shit before. It took me a while to get used to saying it but I'm used to it now. They have made me hate them because they absolutely hate me and my country and they just can't act civilized or rational. Call a duck a duck.
Unfortunately the way the law works is you need to be afraid for your life to justify pulling a gun. And if you don't start blasting, they'll argue you werent afraid and you get charged with brandishing
That law is nuts then and needs to be changed. There needs to be a middle ground between losing a violent confrontation and murdering the other person. Why can't you pull out the firearm to get them to back off? Crazy.
You don't draw until you encounter immediate threat of death or serious injury and there is no other option, or have attempted to de escalate. If at some point between drawing and firing the situation changes you better not shoot. You aren't under obligation to fire after drawing, but you should be prepared to do so until the threat is over. If that threat is gone before any shots are fired, so much the better.
What I see is two big angry racist black women. She retreated to her car and was prevented from leaving the scene. The is not reason for me to allow anyone to put hands on me before I start to defend myself. If that first shot is deadly then I'm just dead. What I did see was taunting "do something" and then stopping them from retreating.
She handled the weapon properly, keeping retention and backing up when the dumb cunt kept in her face.
The bitches continued to escalate and confront the couple who were clearly attempting to de-escalate and leave. They were prevented from exercising their God-given rights and, so, the woman did the correct thing by presenting her gun, quickly de-escalating the situation.
Isn't it strange how quickly those racists shits changed their minds and decided to finally leave them alone?
But I thought black people were scared to leave their homes every morning for fear of being shot by a white person. These cunts clearly were not scared.
Shut up faggot shill. You damn well they were a threat. You pathetic morons only debate in bad faith or not at all because the truth is never on your side. Deport.
I draw the line when I am pregnant, know that black people have been attacking and killing people indiscriminately, try to start shit over nothing, and won't let me simply walk away. That doesn't mean I'm shooting anyone (just like this lady didn't) but I will let them know that I can and will. Shooing over a big Mac, are you fucking serious?
Umm no. That is how you get killed... One brick through the window and you will be out before you have a chance to defend yourself. As soon as someone threatens you, you can use force necesary to remove the threat. Firing the gun is not always needed.
Just checked my local laws in a my blue state. It would not be a felony unless my intent were solely to intimidate and or I had an intent to make others fear for their safety. The later is not going to be brandishing because I would be the one being intimidated and threatened in this case.
I liked it when those two white girls (BLM supporters) were run over by a black guy on I-5 in Seattle. Why don't you go play in the freeway like those other idiots?
Unless they call up their friends and pretty soon your car is on fire. After this past month, if two black ladies want to fight me, my life is very much in danger. Sorry, but it wasn't me who made it this way.
Agreed. She was careless after the initial draw. But when should she draw? Some of the older laws say you can shoot first if 'your way of passage, life and limb are in imminent threat of being compromised'
So, if it were you, when would you pull? I am asking not a trap question, but more trying to gauge when to brandish in a level of threat. To be clear, dire treat is a different matter.
I am just wondering (beyond state edicts) when anyone should brandish a firearm/sword/knife/bat. Anything that can do bodily harm.
Each becomes defendant in libel suit.
Oakland University.
He was the Coordinator for Veteran's Support Services.
Somehow, he was charged with felonious assault?!?
These people think they're untouchable. The amount of white people ive seen get the shit kicked out of them for no reason or lose their jobs this week proves it.
He was the driver, and chances are the black women said he tried to hit them with the car. That’s about the only way they could charge him with that, because he did nothing but get in the car in the video,
I saw reference elsewhere since I posted stating that he also brandished a firearm but its not on video.
Spez: last line of this story: https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/oakland-university-fires-man-charged-with-assault-after-gun-is-pulled-during-parking-lot-argument
Overcharged leaves room for outrage bait and as Bon gino puts it.... The punishment is the process
College.
What bothers me the most about all these fake news headlines is that they all neglect to point out that this was a PREGNANT WOMAN that the 15 year old bumped into then demanded an apology from. The man was right to ask them WHO THE FUCK DO YOU DO YOU THINK YOU ARE. Getting back out of the car was definitely wrong but this woman can make a plausible legal defense that she was in fear for her unborn child and her pregnancy hormones were contributing to her response to the situation.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the woman getting out of here car. Just like anyone else, she has a right to move freely throughout this country and certainly not be beholden to some raging, racist twat filled with hate and anger.
One of them went to block them from leaving. She went out to make sure they could leave without getting attacked. Nothing wrong, she was very composed considering how much they were being harassed.
It mostly depends on whether or not she had already taken “reasonable” steps to de-escalate the situation. In my opinion she went above and beyond trying to get away, and it was only when the women blocked their car from moving, and wouldn’t let them leave, that she drew her firearm.
She then retreated after drawing it, while telling the women to back off, yet those dumb fucks STILL kept advancing on her.
They’re lucky they’re not dead.
Also depends on whether the judge wants to activist. Right now I think anyone being worried for their safety in the BLM climate is justified in doing so, like the St Louis couple. He ripped Cuomo a new one in that interview. Cuomo acted like they were a peaceful bunch of hippies just walking around a neighborhood. They broke down their gate and stormed into private property and marched into their house under they saw him and his wife with the guns. The crowd even had gun magazines from what I read and were clanking them together yelling at them.
Seriously, what the fuck? I’d pull my gun too. Them pulling their guns is the only reason they’re probably still alive. Now that crowd is back trying to start shit with them again.
Even if the crowd had shot them, Cuomo’d be on there saying “look, I understand your pain, but it’s nothing compared to thousands of years of systemic oppression. You only got shot in the leg, and you can probably walk again some day. People are being hunted out there by police and dying. Who said protests have to be peaceful?”
That's exactly what it'll be "it was just one! That's nothing compared to the years of slavery and oppression!!!!"
And the one thing most of the pics show is that she was using trigger discipline. She wasn't ready to shoot yet.
So, glad in my state we have a law for the defensive display of a firearm.
We have stand your ground laws in Michigan. That sites Missouri. Just saying. She will be fine but "where do you go to get your reputation back"?
What can we do? Clearly some police will side with the mob just to keep them happy. Its crazy. She should have never been arrested. I hope she settles only when the cops are removed.
Also don’t forget that the reason this was going down was because she “bumped into someone,” which is obviously bullshit. That makes it even more reasonable because either they are completely insane or lying about the reason they want to keep getting closer to you and lay their hands on you and your vehicle.
Guarantee the black woman can't even name a country in Africa. Most likely thinks Africa is a country.
"Wakanda"
She is right by 'COMMON LAW', but by muncipality and the court of the media (look up the etomology of that word) her and her husband will be made an example of.
Someone get 'Common Law' constitutional edicts to her lawyer please.
With all due respect, Savanah Hernandez also said this.
From https://twitter.com/sav_says_/status/1278737556063039488
"I'M DONE WITH ANYONE WHO ANTAGONIZES, HARASSES AND THREATENS PEOPLE AND THEN CRIES RACISM WHEN THE PERSON THEY'RE ATTACKING DEFENDS THEMSELVES."
NY Post's tweet did give the white woman some slack, but all the others were anti-white for sure.
Yeah but lumping in Savanah was a mistake. She works for InfoWars.
The OP didn't post saying that but I suppose if you read it versus the other headlines, you'd find the rest lacking in appropriate info comparatively. So you're right in that regard but clarifying the point that Savanah Hernandez is not of the Lamestream media would of made sense imho.
When 2 protesters got hit on the freeway by a BLACK DRIVER their headline was - protesters hit by “luxury car” So many of us see through their bullshit now.
When a 19 year old black guy was shot in CHAZ he claimed it was white supremacists at the barrier but then proceeded not to help the police identify the shooter. We know the shooter was black but most idiots will now think it was a white supremacist.
Good trigger discipline
Even r/all knows (knew) the truth on this one.
I think the real question is at what point has the MSM crossed the line into aiding and abetting a violent insurrection movement funded and directed by a foreign power as a means to subjugate and conquer without the risks of overt military force.
Demonizing Americans who protect themselves from assault by blm supporters via omission of important context may fall into that category.
All they see is race*
(*when convenient)
Gradually I began to hate them
This has been happening to me too after a lifetime of believing otherwise. I think this is what they want so they have an excuse to kill us. Fact is I can't and don't hate all of them but when I see things like this, when I see a rapper grabbing his dick, when I see them twerking, when I hear them screaming about racys the n-word now does escape my mouth whereas I never gave a shit before. It took me a while to get used to saying it but I'm used to it now. They have made me hate them because they absolutely hate me and my country and they just can't act civilized or rational. Call a duck a duck.
I'm betting that vid wasn't the whole story.
If you watch the video carefully you can see that the pregnant woman only pulls her gun after the mother and sister start to close in on her.
Conservative people, get the F out of Michigan! That state's F'ing RETARDED!
This couple should start a lawsuit against Chipotle for not providing security while attracting the kind of customers that caused this to happen.
They're all irredeemable criminals
Honestly, they're not even worth the time of day anymore.
The white chick is hot with the gun. I know she's pregnant with no makeup...but still something hot about it.
If someone is preventing your retreat and they step up in your face is it ok to draw the gun to get them to back up?
Unfortunately the way the law works is you need to be afraid for your life to justify pulling a gun. And if you don't start blasting, they'll argue you werent afraid and you get charged with brandishing
That law is nuts then and needs to be changed. There needs to be a middle ground between losing a violent confrontation and murdering the other person. Why can't you pull out the firearm to get them to back off? Crazy.
Brandishing laws are directly unconstitutional anyway. Keep and BEAR arms
You don't draw until you encounter immediate threat of death or serious injury and there is no other option, or have attempted to de escalate. If at some point between drawing and firing the situation changes you better not shoot. You aren't under obligation to fire after drawing, but you should be prepared to do so until the threat is over. If that threat is gone before any shots are fired, so much the better.
2 big angry black women after a month of rioting; I think we have a right to fear.
It's not legal -- I think it constitutes false imprisonment.
They should have called the police.
Another option is to honk the horn to draw a crowd to show who is blocking whom. Unless of course they are in a part of town they should not be in.
"Yard ape" is an offensive term. Please don't use it here. We try to be respectful, even when it's difficult.
What I see is two big angry racist black women. She retreated to her car and was prevented from leaving the scene. The is not reason for me to allow anyone to put hands on me before I start to defend myself. If that first shot is deadly then I'm just dead. What I did see was taunting "do something" and then stopping them from retreating.
I agree with you.
However, I maintain the mistake was when she engaged with them in the first place.
She should not have gone near enough for them to bump into her (I'll bet it was this...not the other way around).
You give them wide berth.
And another mistake was to try to reason with people who only understand force.
Some of these folk are so aggressive and violent that they teach their children to fight from babyhood.
You will not reach them with logic.
She's pregnant and they were threatening to beat her ass.
She was obviously fearful of her baby's life.
She handled the weapon properly, keeping retention and backing up when the dumb cunt kept in her face.
The bitches continued to escalate and confront the couple who were clearly attempting to de-escalate and leave. They were prevented from exercising their God-given rights and, so, the woman did the correct thing by presenting her gun, quickly de-escalating the situation.
Isn't it strange how quickly those racists shits changed their minds and decided to finally leave them alone?
But I thought black people were scared to leave their homes every morning for fear of being shot by a white person. These cunts clearly were not scared.
Shut up faggot shill. You damn well they were a threat. You pathetic morons only debate in bad faith or not at all because the truth is never on your side. Deport.
I draw the line when I am pregnant, know that black people have been attacking and killing people indiscriminately, try to start shit over nothing, and won't let me simply walk away. That doesn't mean I'm shooting anyone (just like this lady didn't) but I will let them know that I can and will. Shooing over a big Mac, are you fucking serious?
You pull the gun when you fear for your life or the lives of others and there are no other options.
Never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to destroy.
She should have retreated and gone back inside, got in the car.
Let them attack the car, malicious destruction of property is a felony.
Your insurance will make you whole after they are behind bars.
She chose poorly.
That’s how America was built you know! Retreating and hiding from the British.
Don’t forget all the lawsuits and insurance claims our founding fathers filled.
You made a false analogy. It is why the leftists call our side ignorant bible thumpers.
We have a nation and it has laws. Follow the law or you are no better than BLM.
Umm no. That is how you get killed... One brick through the window and you will be out before you have a chance to defend yourself. As soon as someone threatens you, you can use force necesary to remove the threat. Firing the gun is not always needed.
Ask your local D.A. about it. They will let you know how much of a felony it is to brandish a firearm.
Just checked my local laws in a my blue state. It would not be a felony unless my intent were solely to intimidate and or I had an intent to make others fear for their safety. The later is not going to be brandishing because I would be the one being intimidated and threatened in this case.
Might want to reconsider that user name. I nominate NoDickParabellum.
Thanks, Pede, I'd reply to you but I've been deported.
Oh...wait...?!?
Yeh, that xir has some soft skin. Thanks again, and take care.
Deported. Read the side bar. Be Respectful.
Deported.
Deported.
I liked it when those two white girls (BLM supporters) were run over by a black guy on I-5 in Seattle. Why don't you go play in the freeway like those other idiots?
Deported.
Unless they call up their friends and pretty soon your car is on fire. After this past month, if two black ladies want to fight me, my life is very much in danger. Sorry, but it wasn't me who made it this way.
These animals need to be made to fear the consequences of their actions again.
Agreed. She was careless after the initial draw. But when should she draw? Some of the older laws say you can shoot first if 'your way of passage, life and limb are in imminent threat of being compromised'
So, if it were you, when would you pull? I am asking not a trap question, but more trying to gauge when to brandish in a level of threat. To be clear, dire treat is a different matter.
I am just wondering (beyond state edicts) when anyone should brandish a firearm/sword/knife/bat. Anything that can do bodily harm.