Abolish federal income tax, abolish welfare, incentivize businesses with tax breaks to open facilities. When people have purpose they dont lash out.
The population in the US is suffering from a lack of purpose. No religion, no job, broken families, broken communities, vapid degenerate culture... you cant just throw government checks at them and expect it to be ok. But then again, the government never wanted to fix this.
Funny you mention that, and thanks by the way. I have been thinking about expanding on this idea in the form of an essay, seems like people connect with the idea.
Only with a solid middle class can you have peace and stability. Obama set about to destroy the middle class and Hillary would have completed it. Donald just rose up too soon which has sent them over the edge.
You're right. Wilson wasn't at the forefront of the "Progressive" movement for nothing. The fall really started to accelerate with 16,17,18 amendments.
Well, if they have the time and energy to riot then they have the time and energy to push a broom, flip a burger, wash a car, install a filter, plant a tree, mow a lawn or ANYTHING else productive to get off the dole and contribute to society. Therefore, I am in agreement!
I’ll take it one step further. Anyone on government welfare should not be allowed to vote. It’s an obvious conflict on interest. They will vote for whoever promises the most money.
Extending the franchise to every warm body was a mistake; It among other things made welfare programs merely a legalized vote-buying scheme. I seem to remember a certain someone way back in history saying something about the masses being able to vote themselves largess from the public treasuries being the death of democracy.
Exactly. I think about that quote often. I’ve seen it attributed to several people, but the message is true.
I’ve often wondered why voting rights weren’t given to women early on. Then I read that, at the time, one of government’s few roles was to wage war - which women could not fight in. It would be a conflict of interest for women to vote for/against a warmongering administration - since they wouldn’t be put on the front lines. Same idea for only landowners being allowed to vote since their property taxes was one of the few ways government was funded. They naturally ought to have a say in what the government spends it on.
The point is, conflicts of interest should be identified and eliminated as best as practical. Starting with welfare recipients.
I disagree 100%. This is an asinine suggestion. It doesn't allow for someone to reframe their political ideology.
Instead, they should be required to be part of a cleanup crew, in order to receive those benefits. If they don't want to do cleanup, then you can remove their benefits.
Oh they can dissent all their heart desires, they just can't do it while subsisting solely on the government teet. Riot, protest, march, do what ever, but don't expect to be able to go back to your section 8 housing after destroying property like we are all good with it.
I'm not sure about taking away welfare benefits for life but I would be 100% in favor of taking away any federally funded or guaranteed school loans such as the Stafford Loan and Pell Grants. Any loans not repaid should be immediately repaid, although I'd allow structured repayment but absolutely no loan deferments or grace periods. If you want the American people to secure your loan through government, than rioting, vandalizing and looting should result in the loss of such loans. A bratty kid should not be able at once to tear down the successes of others, attack state and federal statues/landmarks/buildings and expect taxpayers to just back their student loans.
Have a heart they will say, like the one the rioter had for the business owner, or the taxpayers who've been bankrolling their entire existence? Bring back consequences, maybe some gratitude will follow (not holding my breath).
Totally agree. I see these images of rioters in Minneapolis and Seattle and other places and think, "How many in this crowd are getting weekly $600 government pandemic checks?"
I'd prefer a federal no masks while protesting. It is enabling the worst in people. Similar to online content. A veil of anonymity brings out the worst in most people.
And all student loans go to immediate accelerated collection, no forbearance allowed, accounts attached and wages garnished for all rioters and looters.
Forget forfeiting benefits. If they are violently rioting/looting, they should be subject to the usual legal means of being shot on the spot.
These riots would have been over in less than 48 hours, if the police had simply starting taking down rioters with lethal force. If the rioters tried showing up with larger numbers, then the National Guard goes to work on them, supplemented with Army, Marines, and Air Force as necessary.
""I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Also, if you burn our fucking flag, you automatically forfeit your citizenship as well as all the rights that come with it. You dont like what the flag represents? GREAT, you dont get to enjoy the benefit of its protection and get shipped the fuck out.
Abolish federal income tax, abolish welfare, incentivize businesses with tax breaks to open facilities. When people have purpose they dont lash out.
The population in the US is suffering from a lack of purpose. No religion, no job, broken families, broken communities, vapid degenerate culture... you cant just throw government checks at them and expect it to be ok. But then again, the government never wanted to fix this.
Hit the target. Excellent comment.
Thanks!
Jordan Peterson cites this as a huge problem, especially for young men. Finding purpose in life is so important. Without it, everyone suffers.
FTFY
Republicans haven’t been breaking down doors to get shit fixed. Vote out the RINO’s.
You can lead a leftist to logic but you can't make them think.
You should have more comments than OP, tbh. This is spot on.
Funny you mention that, and thanks by the way. I have been thinking about expanding on this idea in the form of an essay, seems like people connect with the idea.
GREAT IDEA and Trump has the balls to warn of this. Also great about immediately deporting if illegal!
Deported to where? Wisconsin?
Give them to Canada
Iqaluit might be a good experience for these pansies.
How's about the very top of Quttinirpaaq National Park. There they could wear their pants down below their waist showing their rear.
Why not Mexico?
Ice floe- a gallon of Old Crow and some fentanyl.
We can purchase Greenland- send them there. I'm sure the brothers will love it there-
The sea, they can pretend to be pirates
Let's send them to do manual labor in Prudhoe Bay. See how woke they are up on the north edge of the world.
If you can loot a store , you can flip a Burger
Only with a solid middle class can you have peace and stability. Obama set about to destroy the middle class and Hillary would have completed it. Donald just rose up too soon which has sent them over the edge.
"Obama set about to destroy the middle class and Hillary would have completed it"
While you are not wrong, Johnson started implementing this path with welfare expansion 50+ years go
Goes further back to Wilson, maybe even more depending on who you talk to.
You're right. Wilson wasn't at the forefront of the "Progressive" movement for nothing. The fall really started to accelerate with 16,17,18 amendments.
DefundtheWelfareState
Well, if they have the time and energy to riot then they have the time and energy to push a broom, flip a burger, wash a car, install a filter, plant a tree, mow a lawn or ANYTHING else productive to get off the dole and contribute to society. Therefore, I am in agreement!
How about we just abolish welfare. It's clearly not being used for it's intended purpose.
I’ll take it one step further. Anyone on government welfare should not be allowed to vote. It’s an obvious conflict on interest. They will vote for whoever promises the most money.
Extending the franchise to every warm body was a mistake; It among other things made welfare programs merely a legalized vote-buying scheme. I seem to remember a certain someone way back in history saying something about the masses being able to vote themselves largess from the public treasuries being the death of democracy.
Exactly. I think about that quote often. I’ve seen it attributed to several people, but the message is true.
I’ve often wondered why voting rights weren’t given to women early on. Then I read that, at the time, one of government’s few roles was to wage war - which women could not fight in. It would be a conflict of interest for women to vote for/against a warmongering administration - since they wouldn’t be put on the front lines. Same idea for only landowners being allowed to vote since their property taxes was one of the few ways government was funded. They naturally ought to have a say in what the government spends it on.
The point is, conflicts of interest should be identified and eliminated as best as practical. Starting with welfare recipients.
I disagree 100%. This is an asinine suggestion. It doesn't allow for someone to reframe their political ideology.
Instead, they should be required to be part of a cleanup crew, in order to receive those benefits. If they don't want to do cleanup, then you can remove their benefits.
Oh they can dissent all their heart desires, they just can't do it while subsisting solely on the government teet. Riot, protest, march, do what ever, but don't expect to be able to go back to your section 8 housing after destroying property like we are all good with it.
Oh once they start working for a living their worldview will change bigly.
If youre healthy enough to be out to riot and loot, youre healthy enough to work.
So much YES!!!
I'm not sure about taking away welfare benefits for life but I would be 100% in favor of taking away any federally funded or guaranteed school loans such as the Stafford Loan and Pell Grants. Any loans not repaid should be immediately repaid, although I'd allow structured repayment but absolutely no loan deferments or grace periods. If you want the American people to secure your loan through government, than rioting, vandalizing and looting should result in the loss of such loans. A bratty kid should not be able at once to tear down the successes of others, attack state and federal statues/landmarks/buildings and expect taxpayers to just back their student loans.
Por que no Los dos?
No moar gumbint gibs (of any kind) for u!!1!
Have a heart they will say, like the one the rioter had for the business owner, or the taxpayers who've been bankrolling their entire existence? Bring back consequences, maybe some gratitude will follow (not holding my breath).
How about we just abolish welfare? If you're going hungry, your family will get a monthly box of rice, beans, ham hocks, flour, yeast...
Totally agree. I see these images of rioters in Minneapolis and Seattle and other places and think, "How many in this crowd are getting weekly $600 government pandemic checks?"
End that shit!
Except a majority of rioters are rich white liberal kids on their daddy's credit card.
I’m tired of funding the people that want to destroy my country.
I'd prefer a federal no masks while protesting. It is enabling the worst in people. Similar to online content. A veil of anonymity brings out the worst in most people.
Ohhhhh. I love this. However, it could possibly cause MORE rioting because now some of the rioters have nothing to lose and they will be even angrier.
Unemployment too!!!
I wasn't aware inmates got welfare tho
Yes
In what country can I vote for this? It'll never happen with RINOs and Dems running the damn show in DC.
How about anyone rioting or looting will get 10 years in prison. That will stop it.
Removed from all "safety net" dependencies. Let's make it happen!
Yeeeeeesssss. Love this.
And all student loans go to immediate accelerated collection, no forbearance allowed, accounts attached and wages garnished for all rioters and looters.
This is awesome.
This is a great idea. Along with the deportation of illegals doing this it’s a win win.
The rioters are rich little young white people.
Love thst
Forget forfeiting benefits. If they are violently rioting/looting, they should be subject to the usual legal means of being shot on the spot.
These riots would have been over in less than 48 hours, if the police had simply starting taking down rioters with lethal force. If the rioters tried showing up with larger numbers, then the National Guard goes to work on them, supplemented with Army, Marines, and Air Force as necessary.
""I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
*** foreign and domestic***
and domestic
Also, if you burn our fucking flag, you automatically forfeit your citizenship as well as all the rights that come with it. You dont like what the flag represents? GREAT, you dont get to enjoy the benefit of its protection and get shipped the fuck out.
Haha
Why should the children suffer because of the actions of their parent?
Sounds like something a loser with an empty bowl or a bowl getting fed by his parents/the government would say.