Sometimes in our line of work it is not beneficial financially to the patient if a test isn't going to change your course of treatment for them.
IE: If it looks, smells, sounds like a flu, treat it like a flu. Don't bother with a test.
IE meaning "for example". Though I guess being very technical from a latin standpoint IE is used to clarified, EG is used for an example, but I've seen it used interchangeably so much I figured doesn't matter.
I'm finding it really hard that you straight up did not realize I was giving an example.
Thats fine, but as he said, this is done all the time in medicine. So while cases are inflated, it may be more due to flaws in hospital-specific systems than deviousness. I agree with you that given the pandemic, these should be more refined and not as "loose". However I think your example of a slight fever or congestion = covid case is a gross exaggeration of what's going on, though I'd like the medical trainee and/or others working in hospitals to weigh in on that. My gf is a nurse, I can see what her hospital is doing if you really want.
The real issue here is, as usual, the media. Note how Trump himself is not attacking the case methodology, but the out of context, hysterical "reporting".
If the media reported the full context surrounding the increase in cases, and explained as the person with medical training did why the medical field does this, then there would be less hysteria.
It's how medicine works, a perfectly fine example to make a point with.
This is part of how we avoid drumming you (our patients) with unnecessary testing costs. Unfortunately a number of physicians aren't comfortable without confirming everything, but sometimes you can get a negative test when everything else is telling you "Hey this is (insert diagnoses)" so you have to repeat an expensive test just to be sure.
Far be it for me to suggest that we have gotten quite good at diagnoses in modern medicine.
What this is saying is that if I go into a doctor with a slight fever or congestion, I am going to be considered a positive Covid-19 case.
Then you completely misread what I said. Any doctor who did that in the hospital systems I'm privy to would immediately be removed from that patient case and reviewed for improper treatment.
We're playing games with peoples livelihoods over a cold virus and your'e all like, "But yeah, if it looks like a flu, treat it like a flu" This is quite literally not a scenario where that kind of loose labeling should be applied.
Again if you understood what I had said before instead of assuming the worst in me then you'd see that is not what I'm doing.
By the by, if you truly had COVID severe enough to land in the ER you'd better hope we make that presumptuous call as HCQ effectiveness goes down the longer you wait.
Context matters, here's my full quote.
IE meaning "for example". Though I guess being very technical from a latin standpoint IE is used to clarified, EG is used for an example, but I've seen it used interchangeably so much I figured doesn't matter.
I'm finding it really hard that you straight up did not realize I was giving an example.
Thats fine, but as he said, this is done all the time in medicine. So while cases are inflated, it may be more due to flaws in hospital-specific systems than deviousness. I agree with you that given the pandemic, these should be more refined and not as "loose". However I think your example of a slight fever or congestion = covid case is a gross exaggeration of what's going on, though I'd like the medical trainee and/or others working in hospitals to weigh in on that. My gf is a nurse, I can see what her hospital is doing if you really want.
The real issue here is, as usual, the media. Note how Trump himself is not attacking the case methodology, but the out of context, hysterical "reporting".
If the media reported the full context surrounding the increase in cases, and explained as the person with medical training did why the medical field does this, then there would be less hysteria.
It's how medicine works, a perfectly fine example to make a point with.
This is part of how we avoid drumming you (our patients) with unnecessary testing costs. Unfortunately a number of physicians aren't comfortable without confirming everything, but sometimes you can get a negative test when everything else is telling you "Hey this is (insert diagnoses)" so you have to repeat an expensive test just to be sure.
Far be it for me to suggest that we have gotten quite good at diagnoses in modern medicine.
Then you completely misread what I said. Any doctor who did that in the hospital systems I'm privy to would immediately be removed from that patient case and reviewed for improper treatment.
Again if you understood what I had said before instead of assuming the worst in me then you'd see that is not what I'm doing.
By the by, if you truly had COVID severe enough to land in the ER you'd better hope we make that presumptuous call as HCQ effectiveness goes down the longer you wait.