Don’t have fertility issues but was browsing my coverage for some other stuff and went down a rabbit hole. I have really really good health insurance that is probably better than 99% of Americans so I’m sure it’s true for everyone else. This is honestly super sad considering I have several coworkers that battled with infertility and spend THOUSANDS of dollars out of pocket to finally have their children. But they’ll pay for you to mutilate your body and even fly you to have the procedure done. Unbelievable.
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Invitro fertilization is FUCKING expensive .. $10,000+ per try, and it may take a dozen tries before a child takes .. had a friend go through it - paid out of his pocket because wifey demanded it. Beat the shit out of his savings, and she never got pregnant.
Good reason why isurance won't cover it.
BUT: tranny ops, travel, abortions, sterilization? Fuck if those costs should be spread around to healthy people, raising their rates.
A human will put far more value back into a nation than even the most expensive IVF procedures. I'm all for reduced government spending, but funds spent on increasing birthrates is just about the best investment a government can make, even if it takes 20+ years to bear fruit.
Of course, falling birthrates are the (main) excuse given for flooding western nations with immigrants so (as with a lot of things) spotting the longer term pattern of destabilization behind such decisions is pretty straightforward.
I get that but there are a lot of other expensive treatments that insurance does cover.
If it's rare then they can cover it for "cheap" in a sense. The less likely it is then the lower the cost.
If you have 1000 insured and a $20 procedure everyone gets the expected cost is $20. If you have a $2000 procedure that only .1% of the population gets then the expected cost is $2. So even though it's an expensive procedure expected costs are low so they can afford it. Only a small portion of the population is trans so it makes for a cheap virtue signal. It's still a terrible agenda to push though.
Yup. And now there’s is a lg portion of women having fertility issues nowadays.
The “Fertility Industrial Complex” is a Billion $ industry in the USA Today.
Doctors offices are packed to the brim, women & men are treated w little respect & given much fear from the onset... telling couples from the beginning that their chances are less than 2% of it working...so y’all keep coming back now, ya hear!
The next thing they’re pushing is egg donation ...where it’s an egg from another person. This surgery is prob much more costly than even IVF.
A vicious cycle of hormones, defeatist talk from doctors, and intense stress, creates more infertility for these couples.
It’s so sad!
The average age of a women who gets married is 27...up from 20 since 1960(i think).
The problem is older women or have children too late
Then crowd source it. We aren't Communists here
To be fair, we shouldn't be paying for invitro either. I could see the argument if the girl was 18-22 and it was a legitimate medical issue but we're already encouraging women to wait too long.
People are trying to turn health insurance into health welfare
Again, don’t blame all women. It’s hard especially in big cities like LA to find guys that age who want a relationship, let alone marriage. Blame Tinder and their endless supply of easy thots.
BINGO! Women put careers first then at 40 they say oh, I want kids, but they dont understand that their child baring years passed them by. At that age its so much harder to get pregnant and the chance of birth defects skyrockets. So what do they do, spend 100K of dollars on a 2-5% change of it working.
If these women were truly career goals based, then they should have had some of their eggs stored, then possibly used a surrogate to carry the child.
This is exactly what I’m doing, I’m 31, in a good relationship, but I went to freeze my eggs “just in case”. I can’t force my relationship to progress faster, you have to remember that the men in these situations have free will. Don’t put this all on us. A lot of men don’t want relationships or marriage these days, and ALL of my girlfriends do. They’re all having a hard time finding men who want to settle down. Then you turn around and blame us for “waiting” for something that was out of our control
I am mainly talking about those Marriages where they wait until they are "secure" financially or decided to just wait.
But I get what you are saying. Problem also is the MWGTOW "movement" too. These POS guys want to have it all but not commit. Well take away what they want and guess what, they gone and weren't worth it anyway. while people dont like to heat it, church is a good place to meet a lasting partner, as they understand what marriage is about and who sex is meant for.
Did your friend even want to have children in the first place?
Why was she so insistent on IVF and burning up of his savings?