I really like this website as it seems to be the only place I can come for information that is not media controlled to such an extent that, dissenting opinions are filtered out of search results. That being said, this opinion is seriously flawed. If all of the research you have done has yielded this as your conclusion either your research method is flawed or you haven't done your due diligence. Seriously, think about your opening sentence.
"Black americans get fucked by their heritable avg lower IQ there I said it all the data I see point in that direction."
Imagine being in a race with someone who is wheel chair bound. Yes you won but it does not mean that you are good at running. It means that you are good at running against people who are wheel chair bound. Like wise, while IQ is purportedly the best psychometric test available to test cognitive ability, that does not mean it is a good or accurate one.
Most people use The Bell Curve as the basis for their argument despite the endless negative treatment the book and author have received. So I am not going to touch on that.
What seems more likely, that people who live in low income areas seem less intelligent due to their primary focus being things other than education since they have other base level priorities? Or that they are just born stupid? Saying a persons "race," has anything to do with anything is an easy out for people who don't want to take responsibility for their situation, their actions or both. See two examples:
Person A is a single mom. She blames the system for her problems. It isn't her fault that she got pregnant, decided to keep the child and is now working at an entry level job where she is dependent on Welfare to survive. This persons offspring will be at home alone after school (because their parent is working). They will be influenced and brought up by the kids in the neighborhood. They will have no one to ensure their school work is done. They will have no one to teach them all kinds of things that would really be useful for the rest of their life.
Person B decided to use birth control because a pregnancy would not allow her to complete higher education, secure a good job, find a partner worth having kids with or have anything nice she wants in life. When she has kids, she will have the means to spend time with them. She will more than likely have a partner who is vested in the well being of the kid(s). The kid will have positive role models to learn from.
My point is single motherhood is more likely the cause. "Race," has a very loose definition and provides an easy out. Anyone who wants reparations is as big of a piece of shit as anyone who believes in "race." My point is "race" is too loosely defined to have any practical application.
How about we take responsibility for our actions and our situations like grown ups instead of blaming everything else but ourselves. Dead slave owners and an overextended definition of "race," that fails to stand up in the face of multiculturalism, have nothing to do with it.
Also, for your sake "americans," should be capitalized and "point," should be points. Not being able to write coherently reduces an argument on intelligence.
I used to think it was a poverty problem too. Look up crime rates and SAT scores across race AND income level.
Even within the same socioeconomic bracket, blacks commit crimes at almost 5 times the rate of whites, and perform dramatically lower on the SATs.
I’m not happy this is the case. I don’t know what to do about it. But chalking it up to poverty isn’t going to solve it. There are plenty of highly intelligent black people. There are black heroes and patriots. I love them. The problem is that in the lower half of the bell curve, the bottom falls out very quickly and the “dead weight” portion of black America is just far and away more destructive, violent, and unmotivated than the equivalent white underclass. To a level our society is not just equipped to handle.
I’m not saying we should give up and ship them all back to Africa. But we need to address the problem head on instead of dancing around it and pretending handing over more cash or building more schools is going to fix it. And we can’t solve a problem if we’re not even allowed to talk openly about it.
Typed this on my phone so sorry if there are typos.
Can you provide me with a working definition of "blacks?" If a person is mixed are they "black"? Does it depend how they identify? If a white person has a black great grand parent are they white or black? Where do mixed people fall in these metrics? Is a mixed Asian American with "black," going to fall in the middle of the chart? And can you explain how genetics would have a larger impact on how well a person performs in life whether it is competence/intelligence/IQ or whatever named metric?
Are the Asians being considered in these metrics American Asians? Or are they Asians from China brought up not to fail because they literally have nothing to go back to in China/Malaysia/Vietnam? When I say nothing to go back to I mean their family will literally disown them.
I am still of the opinion that peoples failure to take responsibility for their actions results in this perfect storm. When "black" role models hype up violence, sex and drugs what do you think young "black" youth think of that? Do they prioritize it? And put it on a pedestal?
The expectation of my Asian friends going to high school was to become a doctor/lawyer/etc. They were pressured to the breaking point on a regular basis. It wasn't American "wishful thinking," it was "we are your parents it is your duty to do this." It was expected that they secure a good job and bring favor upon their families name. Even my African friends had the same expectations. They held themselves in such high regard. But African Americans/Blacks are simply expected not to go to jail? This doesn't make sense, it is inconsistent. It is almost as though because they have lower expectations on them from their families/schools/peers/etc. they achieve less.
Why then do foreigners come to America and excel while people naturally born in America fail? Albert Einstein in his personal notes found the Chinese repulsive and dirty. How is it that these same Chinese people are smarter than everyone else/almost everyone else on our psychometric evaluations? Well I'll tell you why, they aren't sending the slower members of their populations to America. So of course Asians score higher on our tests.
Sorry this is a mouth full, but I have been looking into this for years and still find it hard to believe that some people are just dumb because of their "race," when "race isn't even backed by science. That is the easy answer. People need to take responsibility for their actions and their situations.
It is absolutely abhorring to me when people have kids and they are not in a position to give those kids the best quality of life they can. Kids have so much potential, and for it to be squandered due to the poor decisions of their parents and the low expectations placed upon them by society is a failure upon all of us.
I see you're still in the stage of denial as a result of decades of indoctrination and brainwashing.
That's okay and I can't blame you.
But just consider this... are you willing to be open to truth, even when you don't like it, it's uncomfortable and it's against everything that you've been taught?
Truth is truth, whether you like it or not.
Do you accept that Africans are better at athletics? Have bigger penises than Asians? Are some races taller than others? Have different skin colors? Is intelligence genetic? Are our genetics inherited from our parents?
Not all X are like that is called the NAXALT fallacy, just because there's examples and exceptions does not mean that the centre line doesn't exist.
'But we are all equal!' Equal in what? I'm different to you in every way, nothing about us is equal. To think that we are all equal is an indoctrinated thought.
The possibility that races can have different levels of intelligence to each other is not a radical thought, we are taught that it's racist to even consider this, therefore it can't be true...but what if it is?
Have you noticed how there has never been a prosperous and well run African country that is run by Africans? Rhodesia and South Africa were prosperous when they were governed by Europeans. Look what happened as soon as the Europeans are over thrown and kicked out... Have you noticed that crime rates of Africans in Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand that have no history of being slaves have parallels in crime to that of Africans in America? Therefore slavery can't be the reason for the higher representation of crime rates in America. What if there is a simple explanation for this that you've never considered because it's a forbidden thought?
The point of this thinking is not about racial superiority, it's about recognizing our differences, strengths and weaknesses and how it can explain the world around us. Once the truth is recognized, we can then start to think about how best to solve the issues that these communities face.
E.g What has previously worked well for the black communities? Having nuclear families, going to church and responsibilities for themselves. The welfare state has done more harm than good and it has destroyed African American communities.
I really like this website as it seems to be the only place I can come for information that is not media controlled to such an extent that, dissenting opinions are filtered out of search results. That being said, this opinion is seriously flawed. If all of the research you have done has yielded this as your conclusion either your research method is flawed or you haven't done your due diligence. Seriously, think about your opening sentence.
"Black americans get fucked by their heritable avg lower IQ there I said it all the data I see point in that direction."
Imagine being in a race with someone who is wheel chair bound. Yes you won but it does not mean that you are good at running. It means that you are good at running against people who are wheel chair bound. Like wise, while IQ is purportedly the best psychometric test available to test cognitive ability, that does not mean it is a good or accurate one.
Most people use The Bell Curve as the basis for their argument despite the endless negative treatment the book and author have received. So I am not going to touch on that.
What seems more likely, that people who live in low income areas seem less intelligent due to their primary focus being things other than education since they have other base level priorities? Or that they are just born stupid? Saying a persons "race," has anything to do with anything is an easy out for people who don't want to take responsibility for their situation, their actions or both. See two examples:
Person A is a single mom. She blames the system for her problems. It isn't her fault that she got pregnant, decided to keep the child and is now working at an entry level job where she is dependent on Welfare to survive. This persons offspring will be at home alone after school (because their parent is working). They will be influenced and brought up by the kids in the neighborhood. They will have no one to ensure their school work is done. They will have no one to teach them all kinds of things that would really be useful for the rest of their life.
Person B decided to use birth control because a pregnancy would not allow her to complete higher education, secure a good job, find a partner worth having kids with or have anything nice she wants in life. When she has kids, she will have the means to spend time with them. She will more than likely have a partner who is vested in the well being of the kid(s). The kid will have positive role models to learn from.
My point is single motherhood is more likely the cause. "Race," has a very loose definition and provides an easy out. Anyone who wants reparations is as big of a piece of shit as anyone who believes in "race." My point is "race" is too loosely defined to have any practical application.
How about we take responsibility for our actions and our situations like grown ups instead of blaming everything else but ourselves. Dead slave owners and an overextended definition of "race," that fails to stand up in the face of multiculturalism, have nothing to do with it.
Also, for your sake "americans," should be capitalized and "point," should be points. Not being able to write coherently reduces an argument on intelligence.
I used to think it was a poverty problem too. Look up crime rates and SAT scores across race AND income level.
Even within the same socioeconomic bracket, blacks commit crimes at almost 5 times the rate of whites, and perform dramatically lower on the SATs.
I’m not happy this is the case. I don’t know what to do about it. But chalking it up to poverty isn’t going to solve it. There are plenty of highly intelligent black people. There are black heroes and patriots. I love them. The problem is that in the lower half of the bell curve, the bottom falls out very quickly and the “dead weight” portion of black America is just far and away more destructive, violent, and unmotivated than the equivalent white underclass. To a level our society is not just equipped to handle.
I’m not saying we should give up and ship them all back to Africa. But we need to address the problem head on instead of dancing around it and pretending handing over more cash or building more schools is going to fix it. And we can’t solve a problem if we’re not even allowed to talk openly about it.
Typed this on my phone so sorry if there are typos.
Can you provide me with a working definition of "blacks?" If a person is mixed are they "black"? Does it depend how they identify? If a white person has a black great grand parent are they white or black? Where do mixed people fall in these metrics? Is a mixed Asian American with "black," going to fall in the middle of the chart? And can you explain how genetics would have a larger impact on how well a person performs in life whether it is competence/intelligence/IQ or whatever named metric?
Are the Asians being considered in these metrics American Asians? Or are they Asians from China brought up not to fail because they literally have nothing to go back to in China/Malaysia/Vietnam? When I say nothing to go back to I mean their family will literally disown them.
I am still of the opinion that peoples failure to take responsibility for their actions results in this perfect storm. When "black" role models hype up violence, sex and drugs what do you think young "black" youth think of that? Do they prioritize it? And put it on a pedestal?
The expectation of my Asian friends going to high school was to become a doctor/lawyer/etc. They were pressured to the breaking point on a regular basis. It wasn't American "wishful thinking," it was "we are your parents it is your duty to do this." It was expected that they secure a good job and bring favor upon their families name. Even my African friends had the same expectations. They held themselves in such high regard. But African Americans/Blacks are simply expected not to go to jail? This doesn't make sense, it is inconsistent. It is almost as though because they have lower expectations on them from their families/schools/peers/etc. they achieve less.
Why then do foreigners come to America and excel while people naturally born in America fail? Albert Einstein in his personal notes found the Chinese repulsive and dirty. How is it that these same Chinese people are smarter than everyone else/almost everyone else on our psychometric evaluations? Well I'll tell you why, they aren't sending the slower members of their populations to America. So of course Asians score higher on our tests.
Sorry this is a mouth full, but I have been looking into this for years and still find it hard to believe that some people are just dumb because of their "race," when "race isn't even backed by science. That is the easy answer. People need to take responsibility for their actions and their situations.
It is absolutely abhorring to me when people have kids and they are not in a position to give those kids the best quality of life they can. Kids have so much potential, and for it to be squandered due to the poor decisions of their parents and the low expectations placed upon them by society is a failure upon all of us.
I see you're still in the stage of denial as a result of decades of indoctrination and brainwashing.
That's okay and I can't blame you.
But just consider this... are you willing to be open to truth, even when you don't like it, it's uncomfortable and it's against everything that you've been taught?
Truth is truth, whether you like it or not.
Do you accept that Africans are better at athletics? Have bigger penises than Asians? Are some races taller than others? Have different skin colors? Is intelligence genetic? Are our genetics inherited from our parents?
Not all X are like that is called the NAXALT fallacy, just because there's examples and exceptions does not mean that the centre line doesn't exist.
'But we are all equal!' Equal in what? I'm different to you in every way, nothing about us is equal. To think that we are all equal is an indoctrinated thought.
The possibility that races can have different levels of intelligence to each other is not a radical thought, we are taught that it's racist to even consider this, therefore it can't be true...but what if it is?
Have you noticed how there has never been a prosperous and well run African country that is run by Africans? Rhodesia and South Africa were prosperous when they were governed by Europeans. Look what happened as soon as the Europeans are over thrown and kicked out... Have you noticed that crime rates of Africans in Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand that have no history of being slaves have parallels in crime to that of Africans in America? Therefore slavery can't be the reason for the higher representation of crime rates in America. What if there is a simple explanation for this that you've never considered because it's a forbidden thought?
The point of this thinking is not about racial superiority, it's about recognizing our differences, strengths and weaknesses and how it can explain the world around us. Once the truth is recognized, we can then start to think about how best to solve the issues that these communities face.
E.g What has previously worked well for the black communities? Having nuclear families, going to church and responsibilities for themselves. The welfare state has done more harm than good and it has destroyed African American communities.