They don't need to worry about getting to the other side. The morons in the border patrol has already helped a couple people that were sitting on top of the fence to come over to the land of milk and honey.
They should have just left them there and notified Mexico to come get their garbage
Some areas have a double wall, and that's the real ladder killer. You might get over the first wall with a ladder, and then shimmy down a rope, but now you need something to go over the second wall.
Either it will be too difficult to pull that ladder through the wall, or it will take a while, and by the time they reach the second wall with it, border patrol is there and can nab them.
Averaging the cost estimates... shows a net fiscal drain of $74,722 per illegal crosser. ... If we use the NAS projections that include the descendants, the fiscal drain for border-crossers grows to $94,391 each.
If a wall stopped just 9 to 12 percent of these crossings it would pay for itself. [For reference, Israel's new border wall stopped 99% of illegal crossings]
If a wall stopped half of those expected to successfully enter illegally without going through a port of entry at the southern border over the next 10 years, it would save taxpayers nearly $64 billion — several times the wall’s cost.
That number in general should really make you think. If they on average drain more than the typical citizen earns, then how are those services even propped up?
Above average earners are really subsidizing the whole system, and it explains why the US is in massive debt, because there's just too much bloat.
Would be funny if they have secret wires running under the bottom all the way that can electrify the whole damn thing. Wouldn't put it past Trump to have that little secret kept in his sleeve for the ceremonial completion day.
I'm good friends with a border patrol agent who describes people climbing up with rope ladders to get people over these things. We need to deploy our national guard.
And that is fine. The time it takes to get a rope ladder up and over that thing and the strength required to get yourself over it means that only the most physically fit will be able to scale such a wall. Also, they will be exposed while climbing it and likely setting off sensors that the border patrol can then respond to.
So you've got what a few likely younger men that make it over the wall? And they risked a ton to get there.
That makes it much more difficult for the general population to get here, and virtually destroys the trafficking business, as the word gets out that there is no reliable way to cross and people stop paying or the price gets so high few can afford it. Destroying the profitability of the trafficking industry on the US/Mexico border should be job number one for the border patrol, IMO.
We can work on zero tolerance border crossings once we have the second wall with the electronic "no mans land" between them.
The wall is working exactly as it was envisioned and designed. A few guys managing to get over it with a rope ladder doesn't change that. That was never our real problem or what the wall was designed to stop in the first place.
We need the right to build the same kinds of walls to protect our own land in our neighborhoods.
With Google Satellite View, the tax man can see everything they need for appraisal increases for swimming pools.
No more letting feral Democrats roam our acreage at 4 a.m. looking to vandalize our property and terrorize us... for flying the American flag in "their" town and being a mixed race appearing family.
ITS ALREADY WORKING!!! Cocaine in my area is $350 an eight ball. I have never used coke, but the price for the last 20 years has been $150 an eight-ball. Also, the $350 quality is HORRENDOUS!!! (judging from looks)
I only wish we could get an expansion on how many workers and work sites are going at once - we need to really step up the pace on this project to make up for all the delay the globalists caused at the beginning.
Now the LORD had said to Abram: “Get out of your country, From your family And from your father’s house, To a land that I will show you.
I will make you a great nation; I will bless you And make your name great; And you shall be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
God never changes! We are the NUMBER ONE financial and military supporter of Israel and we are the NUMBER ONE economy in the world. Coincidence? I think not.
Saying that there are select corrupt deep state people at the top of the power structure in Israel as there are in most every country is the truth. Saying that EVERY Israeli is corrupt and evil is called antisemitism. Just as saying that every black person is corrupt and evil is racism. There are bad apples in every race, culture, and people. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!
Oh boy...antisemitism in spades. Saying all of one race, creed, people are bad is just stupid. There are bad apples just as there are bad Americans (Hillary and rioters) and good Americans (Trump). I thought it was China that owned Hollywood? Chinese firms seem to be buying up Hollywood studios left and right. Is China filled with Jews now? If you honestly believe that every man, women, and child in Israel (population of 9 million) is plotting to destroy and control the USA, then it is time to go back on the meds or find a good shrink. Yes, there are bad evil wicked jews. There are also bad evil wicked Chinese and bad evil wicked Russians. In fact there are bad evil wicked people in every single country on this planet. To believe that an entire country is bad, evil, and wicked is a level of stupidity that only comes with extreme closed mindedness. Hitler had a bad case of extreme closed mindedness.
Return on investment. It's like spending money on vitamins, vegetables, and a gym membership. Yes, you spend money up front, but you save money by avoiding expensive problems later down the road, including problems that can kill you, rape your wife, or get your kids hooked on drugs.
Have remittances fallen? I have to imagine between the wall, Trumps immigration reforms, the plandemic, etc, the rate of remittances should be lower. That's one way that Mexico does pay for the wall.
Guys, I hate to break it to you, but the majority of illegal immigrants are people who arrive in cars, buses, and planes on 90 day visas and never leave. Even a perfect physical barrier across the entire border would, at most, reduce illegal immigration by about 10%. The wall is nothing more than a symbol.
I hate to break it to you but the wall was never intended to stop all illegal immigration. Holy shit, /pikachushockedface.
Here's some facts for you so you don't make the stupid mistake that you just did again.
Last year in just ONE MONTH, ~144k people were apprehended illegally crossing the US-Mexico border. Just to put that in perspective, if all of those people were a city, it would be the 183rd largest city in the US. The US has over 20,000 cities.
This year, same time period, ~23k people apprehended. That's an 84% reduction. Now, there's some extra factors involved here obviously, but regardless the reduction is showing up in the numbers even if a fraction of that is attributed to the wall directly.
So, this idea that it's just a symbol is just fucking ignorant. It's not only ignorant, but it comes across as completely desperate by you. It's a shame that you are so anti-facts that you would ignore this.
I don't even know where to begin with this. You don't cite anything, so let's assume these numbers are accurate. 144k people crossing the border doesn't mean 144k new people here every month, forever. It's a lot of the same people crossing back and forth, muling shit and conducting business. And don't tell me during global lockdown orders that an 84% reduction in traffic is due to the 50 fucking miles of wall that DJT added to the border. The border is 2,000 miles long.
Lies. Over 220 miles have been completed, and that's already had a huge effect. The wall is being built first in areas where it is most needed for obvious reasons, as you can see here:
There are many areas where a wall is not needed, as natural barriers are largely sufficient, and/or areas where the walk thru the desert is just too far for most anyone. There is no need to wall the entire 2000 mile border.
Construction of the wall was held up for some time due to lawsuits, but now that they have been cleared, the rate of progress has increased dramatically. Most of those 229 miles have been completed recently. Should be well over 500 miles completed early next year.
No, we're not going to assume the numbers are accurate. We're going to state without any question that the numbers are accurate. Here is the source of the data directly from the CBP. If you were arguing in good faith, you could have asked me for the source but you didn't and instead assumed that I didn't have a source. That's horse shit and it puts a giant stamp on your forehead saying you are a piece of shit that isn't going to argue in good faith. But I'll put that aside and be the better person and provide you with the source.
144k people crossing the border doesn't mean 144k new people here every month, forever.
Except I didn't say that. I didn't even imply that. I gave an example of a month in which we apprehended a cities worth of people just to give you some perspective about the numbers being talked about. You didn't even address this at all. You completed avoided addressing it and immediately went to trying to marginalize it. Let me put it this way, it doesn't need to be the same every month in order for it to be a problem. ONE MONTH where that many people are being apprehended should be shocking enough if you actually give a shit about facts.
It's a lot of the same people crossing back and forth, muling shit and conducting business.
Could you please provide a source for that? Until you have a source for this statement, then there's zero value in you making that statement. I have researched this already and found nothing that supports your argument here. I'll gladly accept that I'm wrong if you do have a source.
And don't tell me during global lockdown orders that an 84% reduction in traffic is due to the 50 fucking miles of wall that DJT added to the border. The border is 2,000 miles long.
I didn't tell you that. Read what I said and this time don't ignore where I said that other factors are involved. I really don't know what you hope to accomplish when you ignore my statements. Don't ignore things just because it breaks your narrative.
And those that overstay their visas are an issue. They take jobs away from Americans. Mostly jobs at the bottom of the economic ladder, so mostly impact Americans of color.
But the much bigger issue are the illegal aliens who cannot cross the border legally, who cannot pass thru a point of entry, because they have no legally recognized reason to come here, or because they are carrying 20 kilos of drugs, or because they are known criminals.
Mexico is still paying for it. He should make them give him one of those giant lottery checks at a press conference. Would give him a major boost.
not just the fiscal cost of illegals as they siphon more than they pay in taxes but also the cost of the destruction of the country
also a great canary for when we get politicians down the road who don't support maintaining and repairing the wall
LOL EveR HeARd oF A LadDeR.
the border patrol intends to build a secondary wall with future funding so they can set up an enforcement zone, it should look something like this
It will do for now. I would prefer something closer to this, but it's a start.
You have been pretty hot with your postings lately...well done !!
Aw, thanks! Flattered to have gathered your attention <3!
It's been a lot of fun ^_^b.
They already have a double wall in a few places.
I wish it was for the entire length of it.
With a well paved road in between where border patrol can drive 200 MpH and nab anyone before they even try to scale the second one.
fuck, we're the best ususus
Needs more mines and auto-turrets
Will there be sharks with friggin' laser beams?
Yeah, I always carry a 30 feet ladder everytime I go for a stroll in the middle of the fucking desert.
It also doesn't help get down the other side.
They don't need to worry about getting to the other side. The morons in the border patrol has already helped a couple people that were sitting on top of the fence to come over to the land of milk and honey.
They should have just left them there and notified Mexico to come get their garbage
Just jump? The sand is like a pillow. You'll be fine.
Like most of these fatties could climb a ladder.
Love your screen name !!
They would waddle up five rungs then tumble down like a sack of moldy potatoes.
Some areas have a double wall, and that's the real ladder killer. You might get over the first wall with a ladder, and then shimmy down a rope, but now you need something to go over the second wall.
Either it will be too difficult to pull that ladder through the wall, or it will take a while, and by the time they reach the second wall with it, border patrol is there and can nab them.
You wont see many pregnant women, children or elderly climbing that. A lot of women and girls are raped on their journey
I see a big wall and I want to paint it black.
No illegals anymore. I want them to turn back.
Maybe Dems will fade away if they have to face the facts.
Not easy living it up with the third world on your back.
I watched Devils Advocate for the first time last night and paint it black was the song as the credits rolled
Investment. The proper word is investment.
Investment in the future of American
me i would call it more salvation
It actually pays for itself, and in short order.
https://cis.org/Testimony/Can-Border-Wall-Pay-Itself
I'm always amazed that an illegal aliens net drain on society is more than I make in a year.
That number in general should really make you think. If they on average drain more than the typical citizen earns, then how are those services even propped up?
Above average earners are really subsidizing the whole system, and it explains why the US is in massive debt, because there's just too much bloat.
"But who is going to do my slave wage labor like cleaning toilets and picking oranges?" -Democrats
Or until theres a democratic super majority
Hopefully the design makes it VERY difficult and expensive to remove
Fill the bars with depleted uranium ....?
That's one solution for nuclear waste
are you trying to call the "Candy Man "????
REEEEEE, well a small section of it fell over when the cement at the base was not dry yet! CHECKMATE DRUMPHTARDS.
Now I have to go. My wife’s boyfriend says I can’t use the internet anymore today.
Communist nations build walls to keep people in.
Capitalist nations build walls to keep people out.
Keep it up!
The Wall to save us ALL.
The gift that keeps on giving!
Now put up guard posts every mile and double the border patrol agents.
Would be funny if they have secret wires running under the bottom all the way that can electrify the whole damn thing. Wouldn't put it past Trump to have that little secret kept in his sleeve for the ceremonial completion day.
Fairly certain they have sensors all over it that will notify the Boarder Patrol if someone is trying to dig under it or mess with it.
I think during the day it becomes so hot due to the sun of the desert, which makes it impossible to touch.
Holy shit you are right! That's why the bars are black!!! Trump is a fucking genius
Rumor has it, that Trump himself requested the bars to be painted black.
and it's 10ft higher than originally planned ;)
Brigading idea for this picture (minus the text):
"Haha, idiot Trump is standing on the Mexico side of the wall, they should close it up quick so he can't get back in, HAHA"
Subliminal messaging:
I'm good friends with a border patrol agent who describes people climbing up with rope ladders to get people over these things. We need to deploy our national guard.
And that is fine. The time it takes to get a rope ladder up and over that thing and the strength required to get yourself over it means that only the most physically fit will be able to scale such a wall. Also, they will be exposed while climbing it and likely setting off sensors that the border patrol can then respond to.
So you've got what a few likely younger men that make it over the wall? And they risked a ton to get there.
That makes it much more difficult for the general population to get here, and virtually destroys the trafficking business, as the word gets out that there is no reliable way to cross and people stop paying or the price gets so high few can afford it. Destroying the profitability of the trafficking industry on the US/Mexico border should be job number one for the border patrol, IMO.
We can work on zero tolerance border crossings once we have the second wall with the electronic "no mans land" between them.
The wall is working exactly as it was envisioned and designed. A few guys managing to get over it with a rope ladder doesn't change that. That was never our real problem or what the wall was designed to stop in the first place.
Holeup, wait. Are you saying if we can't develop a Wikanda force field, we shouldn't just give up and leave it open?
We need the right to build the same kinds of walls to protect our own land in our neighborhoods.
With Google Satellite View, the tax man can see everything they need for appraisal increases for swimming pools.
No more letting feral Democrats roam our acreage at 4 a.m. looking to vandalize our property and terrorize us... for flying the American flag in "their" town and being a mixed race appearing family.
Democrats are the real racists.
And they are an issue. They take jobs away from Americans. Mostly jobs at the bottom of the economic ladder, so mostly impact Americans of color.
ITS ALREADY WORKING!!! Cocaine in my area is $350 an eight ball. I have never used coke, but the price for the last 20 years has been $150 an eight-ball. Also, the $350 quality is HORRENDOUS!!! (judging from looks)
No more illegals! Finally!
Missing the moat with alligators but still pretty neat
Spend hundreds of billions a year on illegals just so your neighbor can save a few bucks on roofing.
I only wish we could get an expansion on how many workers and work sites are going at once - we need to really step up the pace on this project to make up for all the delay the globalists caused at the beginning.
Genesis 12:1-3
Now the LORD had said to Abram: “Get out of your country, From your family And from your father’s house, To a land that I will show you.
I will make you a great nation; I will bless you And make your name great; And you shall be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
God never changes! We are the NUMBER ONE financial and military supporter of Israel and we are the NUMBER ONE economy in the world. Coincidence? I think not.
Saying that there are select corrupt deep state people at the top of the power structure in Israel as there are in most every country is the truth. Saying that EVERY Israeli is corrupt and evil is called antisemitism. Just as saying that every black person is corrupt and evil is racism. There are bad apples in every race, culture, and people. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!
Oh boy...antisemitism in spades. Saying all of one race, creed, people are bad is just stupid. There are bad apples just as there are bad Americans (Hillary and rioters) and good Americans (Trump). I thought it was China that owned Hollywood? Chinese firms seem to be buying up Hollywood studios left and right. Is China filled with Jews now? If you honestly believe that every man, women, and child in Israel (population of 9 million) is plotting to destroy and control the USA, then it is time to go back on the meds or find a good shrink. Yes, there are bad evil wicked jews. There are also bad evil wicked Chinese and bad evil wicked Russians. In fact there are bad evil wicked people in every single country on this planet. To believe that an entire country is bad, evil, and wicked is a level of stupidity that only comes with extreme closed mindedness. Hitler had a bad case of extreme closed mindedness.
lame
Return on investment. It's like spending money on vitamins, vegetables, and a gym membership. Yes, you spend money up front, but you save money by avoiding expensive problems later down the road, including problems that can kill you, rape your wife, or get your kids hooked on drugs.
It’s a measley 15 billions
1 aircraft carrier to Secure southern border
Fuck the dems
You just know Trump looks at the border wall and wishes it was all powder coated red white and blue.
We have time to get this done.
Dems spend this on a weekend
spray with silicone grease
Or until the next time a Democrat wins the White House, in which case it'll all be torn down.
Maybe we could do the same with democrat cities who are constantly begging for bail outs from their neighbors. It would pay for itself.
Have remittances fallen? I have to imagine between the wall, Trumps immigration reforms, the plandemic, etc, the rate of remittances should be lower. That's one way that Mexico does pay for the wall.
Yes, let's build something that will benefit future generations, instead of always wasting their money on utopian pipe dreams.
And we can shoot through the slats! A bonus!
"The baby cage will be installed here Sir, below the chutes, feeding out to the conveyor system and catapult."
Until Joe Biden wins and tears it down.
The U.S.-Mexico border should look more like the DMZ between North and South Korea. Nobody should get through!
Guys, I hate to break it to you, but the majority of illegal immigrants are people who arrive in cars, buses, and planes on 90 day visas and never leave. Even a perfect physical barrier across the entire border would, at most, reduce illegal immigration by about 10%. The wall is nothing more than a symbol.
I hate to break it to you but the wall was never intended to stop all illegal immigration. Holy shit, /pikachushockedface.
Here's some facts for you so you don't make the stupid mistake that you just did again.
Last year in just ONE MONTH, ~144k people were apprehended illegally crossing the US-Mexico border. Just to put that in perspective, if all of those people were a city, it would be the 183rd largest city in the US. The US has over 20,000 cities.
This year, same time period, ~23k people apprehended. That's an 84% reduction. Now, there's some extra factors involved here obviously, but regardless the reduction is showing up in the numbers even if a fraction of that is attributed to the wall directly.
So, this idea that it's just a symbol is just fucking ignorant. It's not only ignorant, but it comes across as completely desperate by you. It's a shame that you are so anti-facts that you would ignore this.
I don't even know where to begin with this. You don't cite anything, so let's assume these numbers are accurate. 144k people crossing the border doesn't mean 144k new people here every month, forever. It's a lot of the same people crossing back and forth, muling shit and conducting business. And don't tell me during global lockdown orders that an 84% reduction in traffic is due to the 50 fucking miles of wall that DJT added to the border. The border is 2,000 miles long.
Lies. Over 220 miles have been completed, and that's already had a huge effect. The wall is being built first in areas where it is most needed for obvious reasons, as you can see here:
https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-wall-system
There are many areas where a wall is not needed, as natural barriers are largely sufficient, and/or areas where the walk thru the desert is just too far for most anyone. There is no need to wall the entire 2000 mile border.
Construction of the wall was held up for some time due to lawsuits, but now that they have been cleared, the rate of progress has increased dramatically. Most of those 229 miles have been completed recently. Should be well over 500 miles completed early next year.
It was 220 last week or so
and now 229 I love it
There needs to be a running counter some where on this site that shows the current total of miles built.
No, we're not going to assume the numbers are accurate. We're going to state without any question that the numbers are accurate. Here is the source of the data directly from the CBP. If you were arguing in good faith, you could have asked me for the source but you didn't and instead assumed that I didn't have a source. That's horse shit and it puts a giant stamp on your forehead saying you are a piece of shit that isn't going to argue in good faith. But I'll put that aside and be the better person and provide you with the source.
Except I didn't say that. I didn't even imply that. I gave an example of a month in which we apprehended a cities worth of people just to give you some perspective about the numbers being talked about. You didn't even address this at all. You completed avoided addressing it and immediately went to trying to marginalize it. Let me put it this way, it doesn't need to be the same every month in order for it to be a problem. ONE MONTH where that many people are being apprehended should be shocking enough if you actually give a shit about facts.
Could you please provide a source for that? Until you have a source for this statement, then there's zero value in you making that statement. I have researched this already and found nothing that supports your argument here. I'll gladly accept that I'm wrong if you do have a source.
I didn't tell you that. Read what I said and this time don't ignore where I said that other factors are involved. I really don't know what you hope to accomplish when you ignore my statements. Don't ignore things just because it breaks your narrative.
You might enjoy this site that tracks construction. 200+ miles built thus far, in high priority areas. We never needed 2000 miles.
https://www.trumpwall.construction/
And those that overstay their visas are an issue. They take jobs away from Americans. Mostly jobs at the bottom of the economic ladder, so mostly impact Americans of color.
But the much bigger issue are the illegal aliens who cannot cross the border legally, who cannot pass thru a point of entry, because they have no legally recognized reason to come here, or because they are carrying 20 kilos of drugs, or because they are known criminals.
The wall keeps out the worst of the worst