I'm good with deportation. In less than 10 questions we can find out how anti-America and retarded someone is. If they are a threat to society the send them to any African country of their choice via parachute. That expense would pay itself off immediately. First question would be "is math racist?", maybe the second would be "is cauliflower racist". Yes? OK out!!!!
Also, back on topic: I really don't understand how anyone can claim 2+2=4 is "western imperialism"
I never really understood what "intersectionality" is. And I am actually trying to understand whatever point this teacher is trying to make, but I'm at a loss.
And, doesn't she know that the brave and wonderful world of islam is where mathematics actually comes from? Why is she saying that muslims (who invented math) are racist? And the chinese were good at math, way back when, too.
It seems like she is a racist who hates muslims, arabs and chinese people!
Someone should get her fired from whatever job she has.
Can we stop with the "math comes from Islam" lie? Islam didn't have a fucking thing to do with it. Their dirt religion was not the source of it. Persians and Arabs built upon Greek mathematics before Islam existed. They continued to build on it after Islam came around. They weren't motivated or inspired by religion.
Giving Islam credit for algebra is just propaganda to try and convince the world that the goat-fucking, dirt-farming, hand-for-toilet-paper savages that are currently trying to take over the planet, through rape and murder, are enlightened because they invented decimals a thousand years ago.
I never really understood what "intersectionality" is. And I am actually trying to understand whatever point this teacher is trying to make, but I'm at a loss.
Here, let me help. I can summarize in two words: "fuck whitey". That's what they mean when they say shit like this.
I guess she hasn't stopped to consider that those big old pyramids in Egypt took a fair bit of math to build. Also, the surveyors who plotted out the marshes after the Nile floods? Yep, that was geometry.
I still use queer to mean weird. It's fun as hell to watch the reactions.
"You didn't think I meant gay, did you? I'm not ALLOWED to use the word queer in that way, because I'm not queer. Isn't that queer? How would anyone actually know, unless I told them I was queer?"
You just used queer to mean gay
"Yeah? Ever heard of LGBTQ? What's that letter Q stand for in the obnoxiously long string of letters we're all supposed to parrot like sex robots? Why am I allowed to say the LETTER but not the WORD it stands for??"
They aren't going to survive there and I don't give a shit. They can see how horrible their "African brothers" are first hand. They will realize that the fear and oppression they claim to face here is rainbows and unicorns. Maybe they will even be sold into slavery.
I don't want to say it would serve them right, because I don't think anyone deserves to be sold into slavery. That said, the irony would be really weapons grade.
Research Interests: African-Americans, students of color, girls, women, equity, social justice, math identity, math instruction, student motivation, teacher prep, professional development. middle/high school, STEM
Dissertation Project: "Racialized and Gendered Support in STEM: How Successful Mathematics Teachers Build up African American Girls"
Notice how none of her interests are actual math.
Here is a colleague of hers at Rutgers:
Hayes, Endia
Information
Program: Sociology
Research Interests: black women, enslavement, violence, history, resistance
Dissertation Project: Freedom Struggles: A Comparative Study of Black Women and Violence
So what are you interested in? Oh I'm fascinated by enslavement and violence.
And what is your philosophy in life? Resist.
Real fucking gem that one. Don't send your kids to college unless you are hoping to fuck them up.
If I had to guess, the only way she got into a PHD program was by using the race-card, and she knows she's not good at math. The reason for her PHD Dissertation, is because everyone's too afraid of rejecting it for being complete nonsense, because they'd get fired for "being racist." That dissertation clearly has nothing to do with math.
I don't understand how science can be "western" or "african". Science at its root is simply a pursuit of truth that we carry out through quantitative measurements and observations. How can that be racist or colonial?
Anthropologist Suzanne Leclerc-Madlala says the myth is a potential factor in infant rape by HIV-positive men in South Africa.[2] In addition to young girls, who are presumed to be virgins because of their age, people who are "blind, deaf, physically impaired, intellectually disabled, or who have mental-health disabilities" are sometimes raped under the erroneous presumption that individuals with disabilities are sexually inactive and therefore virgins.[1]
Science should not be necessary in this case - whether you genuinely believed that something as incredibly ludicrously evil as infant rape would cure HIV/AIDS or not, you would still have to be incredibly ludicrously evil to do it. I cannot help but wonder if part of it for many/most of these rapists is that the disease and myth is an excuse to do such kinds of evils. And damage or destroy innocents just because they can, or because they love destroying people that they themselves perceive as innocents, or because they want to drag others (no matter whom it is (or directly targeted against those they themselves consider innocents) and without/against any kind of justice and goodness) into the same or worse horrible situation they themselves are in.
They were talking about "decolonizing science" and saying how a shaman can cast a curse on someone to have lightning strike them. You can't make this shit up. These people sound like a 19th century phrenologist describing the "savage race" in Africa and their beliefs in wicked voodoo magic. Who needs white supremacists when you have SJWs to set you back 500 years?
Her comment presumed that this actually can be done, so how do you explain that with your western so-called "science", hmm? Hmm?
OMG. If you begin from a flawed premise, the outcome cannot be fixed without refuting the premise. And that means rejecting what they "know" to be true.
That is a very difficult situation. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Communism is just one variant of Leftism. All Leftists, including libertarians, will get there eventually.
TIL I'm a "leftist" for opposing slavery, abortion-as-birth-control, and communism, as evil; and for supporting the US Constitution, the Founding Fathers, free markets, entrepreneurialism, more laissez-faire capitalism, guns for all, a rollback of 2nd Amendment infringements, and people being allowed to pursue life, liberty, and happiness on their own terms without the approval of authoritarian collectivist government stooges.
LOL
I reserve the right, though, to disagree strongly with certain "Libertarian" tenets, such as open-borders immigration, the unbacked assertion that most foreigners who come here today are peaceful and loving and care about America (ha ha ha!) and the obligation to wait until we are attacked before using military force. I can't let anyone or any group write the entire guidebook for my viewpoints.
China? The Bolsheviks and their descendants started this and have maintained it for a century now. China has gotten in on it, but the primary perpetrators are the same people who killed 60 million Russians.
If this were a novel, the surprise villain pulling the strings of these marionettes would be cyborg George Lincoln Rockwell.
But reality is more often disappointing. At least fiction would explain this surprising white exceptionalism rhetoric (of course their idea is whites are exceptionally bad but y’all get my drift).
This one half black girl I knew from high school (who was a cheerleader) barely graduated HS but went to college somehow, posted a picture of a map of Africa with its various resources that other countries have "taken" on Facebook with the caption "what democracy has looted"
So I had to leave a comment: "Okay, and what exactly would Africa had done with those resources? What have they invented? What technology have they come up with? Oh yeah thats right, they are sitting in a hut, wiping their ass with their hand".
Then I get a message saying "My profile no longer meets community standards and has been shut down"....what a joke.
Btw, I looked into the history of Arabic numbers a while ago, and I will bet my hat they did not come up with it themselves. The conveyance of zero from the Arabs to the West occured circa 1200 AD. This in the latter period of what's known as the Islamic Golden Age, but what many people don't realize is that this intellectual flourish seen in the Muslim empire arose directly from the intellectual resources of the regions they conquered.
The Muslims were essentially intellectual scavengers (or predators) who did not originate any unique concepts on their own. This explains why their progress stagnated once their territorial expansion was halted.
As far as I know, the positional notation system with 10 digits including 0 and signifying for instance "10" as, well, "10", came from Hindus in India. The current characters, I believe, came from the Middle East, and they might also have added the idea of a fraction, like "3.14".
I blame the problem on people of yore. What the fuck were they thinking bringing the slaves over in the first place? They fucked up big time by participating in the slave trade. Lazy pieces of shit and now we have to deal with the mess they basically created.
I know I hear you but at this point I will gladly go into debt for 100 years to get them the fuck out of here. Don't care. Let us lose our AAA rating. Let us be paying this off. It's worth it. Believe me. It's worth it.
"Hey, you don't want to work too hard do you? Why don't you buy a slave or two?"
"Hey, you don't want to expend all this effort into yourself do you? Why not watch some porn instead of being the man a woman would be proud to be with?"
The African slave trade predates European involvement by several hundred years. Europeans made use of a market that already existed. The slaves were captured and put up for sale by other Africans - Europeans purchased what was already available.
Africans were not chosen due to any particular racial animus - rather, it was economics. They had the ability to tolerate tropical climates and had resistance to a number of tropical diseases (remember, the vast majority of African slaves went to the Caribbean and South America to work the sugar plantations, not the American colonies).
What you're saying is 100% true, but my point stands. There's an existing market for black tar heroin, hitmen, and underage prostitutes today, but I don't engage in it because it will cause me more problems than it's worth.
I think that the whole practice of buying slaves back then was idiotic, morally wrong, and lazy. And now we have BLM in America, great outcome.
Lazy? What would have been a non-lazy alternative approach given the time period and location? This whole Atlantic slave trade thing kicked off in the 1500s.
And you deciding to avoid black tar heroin isn't really an accurate analogy. That would cause direct harm to YOU, not your descendants hundreds of years from now. Who knows what perfectly acceptable things you're doing today will be judged to be abhorrent by your great great great great grandchildren?
Look, they were super racist and didn’t want their children to mix with black people right? Well what did they think would eventually happen if they imported millions of black people? Again, it’s laziness. It’s like getting drunk every night to make life easier whereas you really should sit down and budget.
The Greeks had invented a proto steam engine and thought it was no more than a toy because they couldn’t conceive of using anything but slaves to do labor. Same shit. Slavery halts societal advancement and causes more problems down the road than it solves today.
Muslims then, like today, have no problem with violence and are shameless about it. It's why they're conquering europe while the natives are trying to meme their police force into doing something.
You really think Europeans have a problem with violence? Maybe they are shameful about it nowadays but shame is a luxury that quickly goes away when shit hits the fan. Europeans burned the whole world down twice within twenty five years. I would not worry about them.
I remember some European explorer around 1600 or so was in an African village/community for a short time. He left and came back years later, to find he was now worshiped as a God.
Ditto for the Cargo Cults in the Pacific after WWII. Some people are stupid.
Not just Somalia. All of Africa is sub 85, West Africa is sub 65. And that's on average. Stupidest people on the planet and they know it which is why they want IQ tests to be racist even though everyone else in the world does much better than them. In general, look at the places with the lowest IQ's on the planet and you will see the ancestry of those Americans who are constantly bitching about racism and oppression. No you guys just have inferior brain capacity and that's just a fact. Of course there are exception, notably those who come from high IQ ancestry but have gone to an American university an became retarded as a result.
No, they would be killed out of jealousy for success. There's no way you could have achieved any of what you were doing without cheating, lying, and stealing. Sounds familiar?
There's a reason 70 IQ societies remain 70 IQ and why humanity has a history of leaving, migrating, and settling new lands.
They had an extra 10,000 years by themselves to advance, and the most they could show for it was some sticks, mudhuts, and "kingdoms" that were pathetic compared to the Greeks.
Okay so every time STEAM is brought up I have to complain about this.
A girl who attended the same high school and college as me led the change of the college’s STEM program to a STEAM program. This included a renovation of the STEM Center into a STEAM Center by adding free to use art supplies and classes. Okay, that’s fine. Actually more than fine, it was a pretty cool thing. Anyone students who wanted to learn to paint could go there and get some free lessons/canvass/paint. Here’s the thing, though.
They removed the Community Coding Lab to do this. The CCL was basically the same thing, except open to everyone and taught coding. Twice a month anyone who came in on time to get a computer would get taught coding, and had access to all the same software as the Computer Science majors. And there were more computers there than the CS lab, so a lot of them would do their work there instead because their room would fill up too fast. But nope, all gone.
That sounds typical of the left. Ruin something good and useful to replace it with something that makes you feel good but isn’t really useful.
I find the “artist” crowd tries to make everything you can do into art in some way to justify them doing anything remotely artist. Your aerodynamics on your car aren’t for speed or mileage it’s art. They cool chainmail shirt you made isn’t honouring now old skills and history, it has to be art too despite my gagging a bit in the back of my throat when they try to force it on me. I’m no artist. I work for a living damnit lol.
Yeah, not worth it. Art is fine but it will never be more important than actual useful skills. Like it would be a shame if art ceased to exist, but life would go on. The same cannot be said for engineering or mathematics.
art, or emotion, guides how we use engineering and mathematics, so art/emotion are important, maybe even more important....but should we idolize it? should we idolize the worst emotions (envy? lust?)? probably not...complete removal of art would be akin to complete removal of half (one hemisphere) of our brain
Like I said, it'd be a shame to not have art. But lets not pretend like society would immediately collapse if we didn't have it like it would if everyone suddenly forgot how to do math.
The "A" is important, because it helps them draw fancy stuff with the coffee foam when they become baristas after graduating with a humanities or social science degree!
In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable – what then?
I remember reading "1984" in the same year because I read an article on it and puzzling over that passage. I was ten. I never thought one day this would actually become reality in the US.
I read it in 2002 and still had no idea it would become reality. Just couldn't imagine how such a thing would be possible. In 2004 I started seeing things I didn't like but still never imagined that it would go this far. By 2012 I knew better.
Thanks for that quote. It finally connected for me why the mask mandates are so infuriating.
I have read enough studies to conclude masks are ineffective as disease-control devices. That science tells me 2+2=4. And yet tyrannical officials are "mandating" wearing masks, and any random piece of cloth counts. To "stop the spread" of a virus, which they clearly cannot do.
That tells me government is declaring 2+2=5, and they are demanding that I agree, visibly, by wearing a mask. They are now even ramping up the pressure, by beginning to fine people who don't comply, using financially coercion, without any legislative action. It's simply tyrannical fiat.
That finally connected the dots for me!
In the end of 1984, poor Winston finally capitulates and says 2+2=5. Ultimately, as hard as he fought, the relentless pressure finally got to him. I'm afraid our entire culture is similarly giving in to this.
It's hard to cancel him when they're using his book as a how-to manual. I just read the book for the first time in March and its incredible how many things I've seen them do that were lifted right out of the book.
Somehow Mesopotamia is white. So either white civilization has always been ahead of the general curve(sans China) or various parts of the world have their own achievements in development I prefer to feel the latter.
Just like anti-semites attribute near magical powers to Jews, these racists attribute near magical powers to whites. Apparently, whites have the ability to control universal constants, science, and mathematical truths.
Also reminds me of how they consider Trump to be some evil mastermind that plotted with Russia to steal the election from them, but also a total moron who can barely form a sentence.
OH fuck. Doesn't even know 5th grade algebra. Starts out with 1x1 = 1. Now subtract one from both sides. Then you get (1x1) - 1 = 0 which is true you moron. Throwing more money at inner city schools isn't going to do anything to fix this level of stupid.
"Howard studied chemical engineering at the Pratt Institute in Brooklyn until he fell out with one of his professors over the answer to the 1x1=1 conundrum." from the article above. No you mean he attempted to study engineering which was waaaaay over his head and was let in via affirmative action even though he couldn't have realistically passed elementary school. This is now the poster boy for me saying Affirmative Action must end or we are all fucked.
That's not even algebra. He doesn't understand multiplication on a fundamental level. He doesn't understand that multiplication is repeatedly adding things.
1 x 1 = 1
1 x 2 = 1 + 1
1 x 3 = 1 + 1 + 1
He doesn't understand that's what multiplication represents. His K-12 education failed spectacularly.
"How can it equal one? If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told its two, and that cannot be."
One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told its two, and that cannot be.
If a math teacher ever told anyone that the square root of 2 is 2, that math teacher needs to be fired.
To be fair, Abstract Mathematics and Abstract Algebra is a thing, and has practical use in mathematics and the real world, however, that doesn't appear to be what Terryology is.
Have been retyping this way too many times to try and make a proper answer, but honestly? I don't know that 12000 characters (or even 48000) would be enough to really dig into the answer on that. Even then, such an answer would only be my personal opinion of it based on evidence that I could not readily source, etc.
While knowing what happened is very important, and we need to know how we got here, I think energy is best spent right now on trying to fix the problem in the one area that we know for sure is broken: the education system.
Unfortunately that is literally a lifetime commitment which we ourselves will likely never see the benefit of. We have to teach today's children morality, ethics, integrity, self responsibility, etc.
Right now the education system only cares to teach them amorality, reliance on the state, deviation, division, and hate.
I think there is not a backlash as I'm sure nobody knows about these things. We are told black people are specially gifted and built this country, we don't hear about the lunacy in African Studies programs.
TNG has some great episodes that deal with these topics.
The Drumhead immediately springs to mind.
With the first link, the chain is forged. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
It is a shame Patrick Stewart doesn't seem to have understood the words he himself spoke.
Don't get me started... try teaching 20yrs of mathematics in public school through No Child Left Behind and Diversity is Strength and Gay-Student Alliances... math doesn't kneel for silly fads.
Then black pride is white supremacy lol. Say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud!! James Brown was a white supremacist <gasp> Oh wait, being black is not an accomplishment, so never mind.
Well thankfully they are severely outnumbers and so low IQ that this will never happen as long as we keep our kids out of Liberal Arts College. These people have never actually been in control of or accomplished anything so no reason to assume they will magically start now. But yes, if such a thing happened we would be a useless shithole like Africa.
In her Twitter profile she has "wannabe math person". Sorry, but when the very most basic math fundamentals are too much to grasp you can never be a math person. Even chimpanzees understand math better than her. This is so mind numbingly stupid I wonder how she can even function in life.
All federal money going to colleges and universities needs to stop. We have been funding this nonsense and paying for them to indoctrinate our young people.
lol. No, just as you might guess she has white lady hair and looks about as black as Kamala Harris. The less black you are the more you want the world to know you are black and oppressed.
Post-modernist cultural marxists will bend reality to be whatever is most convenient to them at the time. Maybe 2+2 isn't 4 today, but perhaps tomorrow it will be; the day after that it'll be 22. The destruction of a consistent objective reality is a threat to them because they are not consistent themselves.
There is a part in 1984 when they force the character(Winston?) to believe 2 + 2 equals 5. If that crap starts happening I’ll be sure I’m living through a simulation.
So I was over my friends and their parent is a social worker that works at the "bad kid school". Just kids that are disruptive/ can't sit still. So during Covid, they do zoom meetings 2 per day with kids (those that show up not even 50% of them show lol). Anyway, passing by the room she was in I overheard her say, "so guys sometimes 2+2 can equal 5".... Couldn't believe what I was hearing. I didn't get the explanation but that shit was clear as day.
And maybe the reason for retarded level IQ is genetic? This is what diversity gets us folks; quotas and people who are full on retarded teaching your children. Blacks say they have really bad schools, they need look no further than the black teachers. No amount of money is going to fix retarded.
This is not just one special circumstance here. There was a black teacher in Seattle who in the first wave of BLM took up a bullhorn in public and called for reparations and killing of people.
"A government-school document shows that students in Seattle will learn math in an “ethnic studies framework” that depicts the subject as oppressive, and that the right answer to a math question might be relative to a person’s ethnicity and culture." Stay out of Seattle folks.
We are catering to the stupidest kids and most retarded cultures represented and everyone suffers. If math is too oppressive get the fuck out of my country.
Then give me more of this western imperialism.
I'm good with deportation. In less than 10 questions we can find out how anti-America and retarded someone is. If they are a threat to society the send them to any African country of their choice via parachute. That expense would pay itself off immediately. First question would be "is math racist?", maybe the second would be "is cauliflower racist". Yes? OK out!!!!
Spit the black pill out, we are going to crush them.
Hear hear!
Also, back on topic: I really don't understand how anyone can claim 2+2=4 is "western imperialism"
I never really understood what "intersectionality" is. And I am actually trying to understand whatever point this teacher is trying to make, but I'm at a loss.
And, doesn't she know that the brave and wonderful world of islam is where mathematics actually comes from? Why is she saying that muslims (who invented math) are racist? And the chinese were good at math, way back when, too.
It seems like she is a racist who hates muslims, arabs and chinese people!
Someone should get her fired from whatever job she has.
Can we stop with the "math comes from Islam" lie? Islam didn't have a fucking thing to do with it. Their dirt religion was not the source of it. Persians and Arabs built upon Greek mathematics before Islam existed. They continued to build on it after Islam came around. They weren't motivated or inspired by religion.
Giving Islam credit for algebra is just propaganda to try and convince the world that the goat-fucking, dirt-farming, hand-for-toilet-paper savages that are currently trying to take over the planet, through rape and murder, are enlightened because they invented decimals a thousand years ago.
Here, let me help. I can summarize in two words: "fuck whitey". That's what they mean when they say shit like this.
Wrong. Our numerical system came from India.
The word/symbol 2 was asociated with the idea of a pair.White supremacist did this cause they created english!!!
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The number comes from arabs but who cares.
I guess she hasn't stopped to consider that those big old pyramids in Egypt took a fair bit of math to build. Also, the surveyors who plotted out the marshes after the Nile floods? Yep, that was geometry.
Though we walk through the valley of shadows we will fear no evil
Spit the dark pill.
a fun game to play is to woke google:
"is ____ racist?"
"is _____ sexist?"
I've found out bicycling is sexist, hiking is racist, so on so forth.
These days, kids (probably) don't insult by claiming something is gay, but rather that something is racist.
"Your mom is racist"
Your mom is a successful entrepreneur! What a winner! Beat him up!
In Soviet America, that's a death sentence! Eat the rich!
That's pretty fucking queer if true.
I still use queer to mean weird. It's fun as hell to watch the reactions.
"You didn't think I meant gay, did you? I'm not ALLOWED to use the word queer in that way, because I'm not queer. Isn't that queer? How would anyone actually know, unless I told them I was queer?"
You just used queer to mean gay
"Yeah? Ever heard of LGBTQ? What's that letter Q stand for in the obnoxiously long string of letters we're all supposed to parrot like sex robots? Why am I allowed to say the LETTER but not the WORD it stands for??"
Fun times
Ha ha ha
Parachute???
Making it awfully easy for them, I see. How does that help them be tough enough to survive in their new environment? :)
They aren't going to survive there and I don't give a shit. They can see how horrible their "African brothers" are first hand. They will realize that the fear and oppression they claim to face here is rainbows and unicorns. Maybe they will even be sold into slavery.
I don't want to say it would serve them right, because I don't think anyone deserves to be sold into slavery. That said, the irony would be really weapons grade.
I kind of want to take this test for fun.
“There’s a tortoise on it’s back. What do you do?”
Diversity fails, is paradoxical, and forces race war and genocide upon us.
Repatriation-with-reparations is the only solution.
Yep. Give them reparations. But if and only if they go back to Africa or somewhere else.
If they say no, then you're admitting you're glad you are here. In which case you need to shut the fuck up.
We already paid 22 trillion dollars in "reparations". Call this something else - but do it.
I have been calling it reparations-with-repatriation and stole the idea from two Black guys, Osiris Akkebala and Marcus Garvey.
Some Black paleoconservatives discuss the issue and appear to be gaining influence.
What is that? I know what repatriation is. Who is paying people for existing?
Dont want to be a fool for youuuuuu...
She claims to be a PhD student. What the actual fuck haha
It's easy to be a student nowadays. Just memorize the Official Facts™ and you can go as far as your loans will take you.
wow that is spot on
Marshall, Brittany
Information Program: Mathematics Education
Notice how none of her interests are actual math.
Here is a colleague of hers at Rutgers:
Hayes, Endia
Information Program: Sociology
So what are you interested in? Oh I'm fascinated by enslavement and violence.
And what is your philosophy in life? Resist.
Real fucking gem that one. Don't send your kids to college unless you are hoping to fuck them up.
If I had to guess, the only way she got into a PHD program was by using the race-card, and she knows she's not good at math. The reason for her PHD Dissertation, is because everyone's too afraid of rejecting it for being complete nonsense, because they'd get fired for "being racist." That dissertation clearly has nothing to do with math.
If she was a band, her name would be syndrome of a down
PhD in Marxist propaganda
Sadly, the view of the teacher is far from unique.
Video from a classroom: https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2016-10-21-op-ed-science-is-not-unafrican-but-there-is-a-prejudice-towards-african-science/#gsc.tab=0
I don't understand how science can be "western" or "african". Science at its root is simply a pursuit of truth that we carry out through quantitative measurements and observations. How can that be racist or colonial?
raping a virgin child also cures aids. also cargo cults.
Also having a 13 year old drink the elders cum makes them a man. That's African science for you.
lol...wait...wat the fuk
And also raping virgins cures AIDS.
Like this ( from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_cleansing_myth ):
And that's why there's advanced science, folks
So the species can survive the backwardness of primitive humans
Science should not be necessary in this case - whether you genuinely believed that something as incredibly ludicrously evil as infant rape would cure HIV/AIDS or not, you would still have to be incredibly ludicrously evil to do it. I cannot help but wonder if part of it for many/most of these rapists is that the disease and myth is an excuse to do such kinds of evils. And damage or destroy innocents just because they can, or because they love destroying people that they themselves perceive as innocents, or because they want to drag others (no matter whom it is (or directly targeted against those they themselves consider innocents) and without/against any kind of justice and goodness) into the same or worse horrible situation they themselves are in.
Also, the heads of bald men have gold inside them!
Exactly, why are they so obsessed with "white fragility?" Projection.
And in fact know that given a million years would never have figured it out.
If you look at the whole, movement, they glorify all 7.
They were talking about "decolonizing science" and saying how a shaman can cast a curse on someone to have lightning strike them. You can't make this shit up. These people sound like a 19th century phrenologist describing the "savage race" in Africa and their beliefs in wicked voodoo magic. Who needs white supremacists when you have SJWs to set you back 500 years?
Her comment presumed that this actually can be done, so how do you explain that with your western so-called "science", hmm? Hmm?
OMG. If you begin from a flawed premise, the outcome cannot be fixed without refuting the premise. And that means rejecting what they "know" to be true.
That is a very difficult situation. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Another way to put that is that some of the least-PC people in history have been proven right by late modern events.
I'll fire it up. It's been a while since I watched that, but it was in the early days of my red pilling. I remember Thunderf00t doing a video on it.
Of course this is happened in South Africa. Communism is cancer holy shit
Communism is just one variant of Leftism. All Leftists, including libertarians, will get there eventually.
"A Communist is just a Democrat in a hurry."
TIL I'm a "leftist" for opposing slavery, abortion-as-birth-control, and communism, as evil; and for supporting the US Constitution, the Founding Fathers, free markets, entrepreneurialism, more laissez-faire capitalism, guns for all, a rollback of 2nd Amendment infringements, and people being allowed to pursue life, liberty, and happiness on their own terms without the approval of authoritarian collectivist government stooges.
LOL
I reserve the right, though, to disagree strongly with certain "Libertarian" tenets, such as open-borders immigration, the unbacked assertion that most foreigners who come here today are peaceful and loving and care about America (ha ha ha!) and the obligation to wait until we are attacked before using military force. I can't let anyone or any group write the entire guidebook for my viewpoints.
This is how China takes the US out. Destroy STEM R&D with critical race theory. We are failing, the subversion is spreading.
China? The Bolsheviks and their descendants started this and have maintained it for a century now. China has gotten in on it, but the primary perpetrators are the same people who killed 60 million Russians.
Also we have to hire based on race. Not the best person for the job.
If this were a novel, the surprise villain pulling the strings of these marionettes would be cyborg George Lincoln Rockwell.
But reality is more often disappointing. At least fiction would explain this surprising white exceptionalism rhetoric (of course their idea is whites are exceptionally bad but y’all get my drift).
I posted this before but I'll repeat it.
This one half black girl I knew from high school (who was a cheerleader) barely graduated HS but went to college somehow, posted a picture of a map of Africa with its various resources that other countries have "taken" on Facebook with the caption "what democracy has looted"
So I had to leave a comment: "Okay, and what exactly would Africa had done with those resources? What have they invented? What technology have they come up with? Oh yeah thats right, they are sitting in a hut, wiping their ass with their hand".
Then I get a message saying "My profile no longer meets community standards and has been shut down"....what a joke.
You know you said something irrefutable when the only response they can muster is a banning.
Has nobody told this lady that our numerical system is based on Arabic culture?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc are Arabic numerals.
We stopped using Roman "white" counting systems a long time ago.
And the concept of a number "zero" is commonly accepted to have originated in India.
It's almost like... math is a universal language!
Btw, I looked into the history of Arabic numbers a while ago, and I will bet my hat they did not come up with it themselves. The conveyance of zero from the Arabs to the West occured circa 1200 AD. This in the latter period of what's known as the Islamic Golden Age, but what many people don't realize is that this intellectual flourish seen in the Muslim empire arose directly from the intellectual resources of the regions they conquered.
The Muslims were essentially intellectual scavengers (or predators) who did not originate any unique concepts on their own. This explains why their progress stagnated once their territorial expansion was halted.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/history-of-zero/
As far as I know, the positional notation system with 10 digits including 0 and signifying for instance "10" as, well, "10", came from Hindus in India. The current characters, I believe, came from the Middle East, and they might also have added the idea of a fraction, like "3.14".
I agree, but don't forget about the centuries of rampant cousin marriages they've done. That sure hasn't helped their IQ.
That's essentially the same as... Well anything. Big corporations don't innovate, they buy innovation.
Ahh yes basic math has always been an issue in inner city schools.
The party of STEM!
One looks at this tweet and suddenly it's not so surprising Africa failed to develop the wheel.
I blame the problem on people of yore. What the fuck were they thinking bringing the slaves over in the first place? They fucked up big time by participating in the slave trade. Lazy pieces of shit and now we have to deal with the mess they basically created.
Good point that was really stupid. And at the least after the civil war you fucking send them back.
I know I hear you but at this point I will gladly go into debt for 100 years to get them the fuck out of here. Don't care. Let us lose our AAA rating. Let us be paying this off. It's worth it. Believe me. It's worth it.
They sold em, we bought em. Shoulda left that shit in Africa.
He's not referring to Africans.
Oy vey, it's the same tactics as always:
"Hey, you don't want to work too hard do you? Why don't you buy a slave or two?"
"Hey, you don't want to expend all this effort into yourself do you? Why not watch some porn instead of being the man a woman would be proud to be with?"
SHUT IT DOWN
Happy slave merchants.
Bringing slaves to America was the biggest mistake the founders ever made
The African slave trade predates European involvement by several hundred years. Europeans made use of a market that already existed. The slaves were captured and put up for sale by other Africans - Europeans purchased what was already available. Africans were not chosen due to any particular racial animus - rather, it was economics. They had the ability to tolerate tropical climates and had resistance to a number of tropical diseases (remember, the vast majority of African slaves went to the Caribbean and South America to work the sugar plantations, not the American colonies).
What you're saying is 100% true, but my point stands. There's an existing market for black tar heroin, hitmen, and underage prostitutes today, but I don't engage in it because it will cause me more problems than it's worth.
I think that the whole practice of buying slaves back then was idiotic, morally wrong, and lazy. And now we have BLM in America, great outcome.
Lazy? What would have been a non-lazy alternative approach given the time period and location? This whole Atlantic slave trade thing kicked off in the 1500s.
And you deciding to avoid black tar heroin isn't really an accurate analogy. That would cause direct harm to YOU, not your descendants hundreds of years from now. Who knows what perfectly acceptable things you're doing today will be judged to be abhorrent by your great great great great grandchildren?
Look, they were super racist and didn’t want their children to mix with black people right? Well what did they think would eventually happen if they imported millions of black people? Again, it’s laziness. It’s like getting drunk every night to make life easier whereas you really should sit down and budget.
The Greeks had invented a proto steam engine and thought it was no more than a toy because they couldn’t conceive of using anything but slaves to do labor. Same shit. Slavery halts societal advancement and causes more problems down the road than it solves today.
Muslims then, like today, have no problem with violence and are shameless about it. It's why they're conquering europe while the natives are trying to meme their police force into doing something.
You really think Europeans have a problem with violence? Maybe they are shameful about it nowadays but shame is a luxury that quickly goes away when shit hits the fan. Europeans burned the whole world down twice within twenty five years. I would not worry about them.
I remember some European explorer around 1600 or so was in an African village/community for a short time. He left and came back years later, to find he was now worshiped as a God.
Ditto for the Cargo Cults in the Pacific after WWII. Some people are stupid.
Not just Somalia. All of Africa is sub 85, West Africa is sub 65. And that's on average. Stupidest people on the planet and they know it which is why they want IQ tests to be racist even though everyone else in the world does much better than them. In general, look at the places with the lowest IQ's on the planet and you will see the ancestry of those Americans who are constantly bitching about racism and oppression. No you guys just have inferior brain capacity and that's just a fact. Of course there are exception, notably those who come from high IQ ancestry but have gone to an American university an became retarded as a result.
From 1867 (hence the PI title by today's standards)
https://archive.org/details/negroesinnegroland
Sounds like Somalia didn't change that much, just added automatic weapons.
No, they would be killed out of jealousy for success. There's no way you could have achieved any of what you were doing without cheating, lying, and stealing. Sounds familiar?
There's a reason 70 IQ societies remain 70 IQ and why humanity has a history of leaving, migrating, and settling new lands.
They had an extra 10,000 years by themselves to advance, and the most they could show for it was some sticks, mudhuts, and "kingdoms" that were pathetic compared to the Greeks.
Neither did Native Americans. BuT fAcTs ArE rAcIsT!
When you think about it was the wheel ever developed more than once, or did it just spread?
Don't you know it's STEAM now? The left added arts as an attempt to infiltrate the hard sciences with Marxism.
Okay so every time STEAM is brought up I have to complain about this.
A girl who attended the same high school and college as me led the change of the college’s STEM program to a STEAM program. This included a renovation of the STEM Center into a STEAM Center by adding free to use art supplies and classes. Okay, that’s fine. Actually more than fine, it was a pretty cool thing. Anyone students who wanted to learn to paint could go there and get some free lessons/canvass/paint. Here’s the thing, though.
They removed the Community Coding Lab to do this. The CCL was basically the same thing, except open to everyone and taught coding. Twice a month anyone who came in on time to get a computer would get taught coding, and had access to all the same software as the Computer Science majors. And there were more computers there than the CS lab, so a lot of them would do their work there instead because their room would fill up too fast. But nope, all gone.
That sounds typical of the left. Ruin something good and useful to replace it with something that makes you feel good but isn’t really useful.
I find the “artist” crowd tries to make everything you can do into art in some way to justify them doing anything remotely artist. Your aerodynamics on your car aren’t for speed or mileage it’s art. They cool chainmail shirt you made isn’t honouring now old skills and history, it has to be art too despite my gagging a bit in the back of my throat when they try to force it on me. I’m no artist. I work for a living damnit lol.
Yeah, not worth it. Art is fine but it will never be more important than actual useful skills. Like it would be a shame if art ceased to exist, but life would go on. The same cannot be said for engineering or mathematics.
art, or emotion, guides how we use engineering and mathematics, so art/emotion are important, maybe even more important....but should we idolize it? should we idolize the worst emotions (envy? lust?)? probably not...complete removal of art would be akin to complete removal of half (one hemisphere) of our brain
Like I said, it'd be a shame to not have art. But lets not pretend like society would immediately collapse if we didn't have it like it would if everyone suddenly forgot how to do math.
That is so fucked up...
There's a reason we don't tell (former) journalists to learn to paint.
Makes sense, since hot, poopy steam is all that those disciplines will produce if the the left completely takes them over.
I'd support teaching a mathematics of art and design patterns in literature.
The "A" is important, because it helps them draw fancy stuff with the coffee foam when they become baristas after graduating with a humanities or social science degree!
WTF?!? What's the point of the acronym if you're going to jam all the unlike things into it? On its way to STESJWAM now, no doubt.
Every time you think they've achieved peak stupid...
And basic English.
In Nineteen Eighty-Four, Orwell writes:
I remember reading "1984" in the same year because I read an article on it and puzzling over that passage. I was ten. I never thought one day this would actually become reality in the US.
I read it in 2002 and still had no idea it would become reality. Just couldn't imagine how such a thing would be possible. In 2004 I started seeing things I didn't like but still never imagined that it would go this far. By 2012 I knew better.
Thanks for that quote. It finally connected for me why the mask mandates are so infuriating.
I have read enough studies to conclude masks are ineffective as disease-control devices. That science tells me 2+2=4. And yet tyrannical officials are "mandating" wearing masks, and any random piece of cloth counts. To "stop the spread" of a virus, which they clearly cannot do.
That tells me government is declaring 2+2=5, and they are demanding that I agree, visibly, by wearing a mask. They are now even ramping up the pressure, by beginning to fine people who don't comply, using financially coercion, without any legislative action. It's simply tyrannical fiat.
That finally connected the dots for me!
In the end of 1984, poor Winston finally capitulates and says 2+2=5. Ultimately, as hard as he fought, the relentless pressure finally got to him. I'm afraid our entire culture is similarly giving in to this.
Random piece of cloth = preparation for burkas.
Edit: BTW, this is an excellent explanation of the masks.
Except the burkha/hijab is strictly for women. Though I do get your intention.
"Freedom is the freedom to say 2 + 2 = 4. Once that is granted, everything else follows."
How long before Orwell is cancelled?
It's hard to cancel him when they're using his book as a how-to manual. I just read the book for the first time in March and its incredible how many things I've seen them do that were lifted right out of the book.
Maybe Trump needs a new campaign logo, MOFA - Make Orwell Fiction Again.
Look man, I am given the 5 block test every day in my basement and can't wait to...ya know...the thing man.
In the most literal sense of the word... we're living out 1984.
TWO PLUS TWO EQUALS FOUR.
We're living in Animal Farm too.
"All Lives Matter, but some Black Lives Matter more than others"
Blended with Brave New World. Orgy-porgy, time for a soma holiday.
Na, according to them all lives DO NOT matter
Dark skin gooood, white skin baaaaaad.
THATS FUCKING HATE SPEECH, Bigot!!!
Lol math equations go brrrrrrrrrr
Spez is gona ban you guys!1!
Be like Winston and answer 4 even if they put the rat hat on you. Don't be a Mike Gundy people or this shit will never end. That's how it spreads.
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!
Stop colonizing my mind!
There. Are. Four. Lights!
You are no longer Captain Picard. I will refer to you only as...straight white male.
We wuz kangs and shieettt
"But did they work?"
"...RACIST!"
This is the question. If it's not 4 then what is it? 2 + 2 = coconut? Does that come before or after potato?
If your great great great grandfather was a slave in America you wuzn't no kangs. You wuz the kangz bitches.
Algebra was created in Mesopotamia, but it behoove her to study history of the world.
Somehow Mesopotamia is white. So either white civilization has always been ahead of the general curve(sans China) or various parts of the world have their own achievements in development I prefer to feel the latter.
And yet she doesn't see universities as colonial. Affirmative Actions needs to end.
What, you think she isn't trying to tear it down from the inside?
Just like anti-semites attribute near magical powers to Jews, these racists attribute near magical powers to whites. Apparently, whites have the ability to control universal constants, science, and mathematical truths.
Also reminds me of how they consider Trump to be some evil mastermind that plotted with Russia to steal the election from them, but also a total moron who can barely form a sentence.
So that makes it 8 then?
Black people have had their own version of math since Terrence Howard discovered that 1 x 1 = 2 and created 'Terryology'.
I'm not joking: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/terrence-howard-thinks-1x1-2-has-a-secret-system-called-terryology-and-spends-17-hours-a-day-making-10502365.html
If you want to laugh even harder, here is his "proof" that 1*1=2
Not only can he not do 3rd grade math, but he also can't use Microsoft word.
If there was ever a time for an LMAO, this is it.
I went past laughing and just stared at my screen in awe for a few minutes.
No. No. No, Terrence. No.
This is flat Earth all over again
I do not believe the earth is flat. However, flat earth doesn't approach this level of ridiculousness.
I have one quarter in front of me. And I have one of it. Therefore, I have 1 quarter.
1 * 1 = 1
Haha, you're right. It's a million times worse. Post Modernism is the root of the disease
OH fuck. Doesn't even know 5th grade algebra. Starts out with 1x1 = 1. Now subtract one from both sides. Then you get (1x1) - 1 = 0 which is true you moron. Throwing more money at inner city schools isn't going to do anything to fix this level of stupid.
"Howard studied chemical engineering at the Pratt Institute in Brooklyn until he fell out with one of his professors over the answer to the 1x1=1 conundrum." from the article above. No you mean he attempted to study engineering which was waaaaay over his head and was let in via affirmative action even though he couldn't have realistically passed elementary school. This is now the poster boy for me saying Affirmative Action must end or we are all fucked.
That's not even algebra. He doesn't understand multiplication on a fundamental level. He doesn't understand that multiplication is repeatedly adding things.
1 x 1 = 1
1 x 2 = 1 + 1
1 x 3 = 1 + 1 + 1
He doesn't understand that's what multiplication represents. His K-12 education failed spectacularly.
And yet he still got accepted into an engineering program.
"aliiek slkjoiid whuusllgi slkihoiwi tuudljjhli"
Hey welcome to the Institute of English and Literature young man.
Maybe he just went crazy. Drugs?
Teachers matter.
He seems not to know the difference between multiplication and addition.
If a math teacher ever told anyone that the square root of 2 is 2, that math teacher needs to be fired.
To be fair, Abstract Mathematics and Abstract Algebra is a thing, and has practical use in mathematics and the real world, however, that doesn't appear to be what Terryology is.
So far as I can tell, that's just abstract in the sense that it doesn't rely on real world objects, just the numbers themselves.
Abstract mathematics is true and useful within some context, is probably the simplest way to explain it.
Explain.
Sure, it’s easy. Just have a basic understanding of addition, and only addition, and then try to cram multiplication into it backwards.
2 + 2 = YOU'RE FUCKING RACIST
Good day Pedes.
You know this teacher would spell it your.
Yeah, look at you with your only one way to spell a word. Racist.
What is wrong with this society?
Have been retyping this way too many times to try and make a proper answer, but honestly? I don't know that 12000 characters (or even 48000) would be enough to really dig into the answer on that. Even then, such an answer would only be my personal opinion of it based on evidence that I could not readily source, etc.
While knowing what happened is very important, and we need to know how we got here, I think energy is best spent right now on trying to fix the problem in the one area that we know for sure is broken: the education system.
Unfortunately that is literally a lifetime commitment which we ourselves will likely never see the benefit of. We have to teach today's children morality, ethics, integrity, self responsibility, etc.
Right now the education system only cares to teach them amorality, reliance on the state, deviation, division, and hate.
I think there is not a backlash as I'm sure nobody knows about these things. We are told black people are specially gifted and built this country, we don't hear about the lunacy in African Studies programs.
You should read 1984; it's a short book. Unfortunately it won't seem like fiction to you since you're now living it.
but but Hillary said the lesson of 1984 is you should trust government and experts!
It's because she never read it and she knows most people she wants eating out of her hand never did either.
It was supposed to be a cautionary satire, not a frickin' instruction manual!
You should give it a read, I was the same way but it’s scarier in actually reading it. I guess that means I should read Animal Farm...
Also read Animal Farm if you haven't.
TNG has some great episodes that deal with these topics.
The Drumhead immediately springs to mind.
It is a shame Patrick Stewart doesn't seem to have understood the words he himself spoke.
Technically, 2 + 2 can equal 11 if dealing with a base 3 number system. Therefore, Snopes will say that 2+2 is mostly false.
This math man appreciates this comment.
This math man appreciates that there are other math men in the world who appreciates comments on number bases.
Don't get me started... try teaching 20yrs of mathematics in public school through No Child Left Behind and Diversity is Strength and Gay-Student Alliances... math doesn't kneel for silly fads.
Wait... 20 years? Like, 2 + 2 + 2 years?
Let's just say they definitely know the math term "nonbinary" nowadays because they use the term to ruin biology class too.
Zero indexed system where 0=1?
Then black pride is white supremacy lol. Say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud!! James Brown was a white supremacist <gasp> Oh wait, being black is not an accomplishment, so never mind.
BLM Teacher says we should water the crops with Gatorade
If these people seize power we're seriously headed for some dark ages.
Well thankfully they are severely outnumbers and so low IQ that this will never happen as long as we keep our kids out of Liberal Arts College. These people have never actually been in control of or accomplished anything so no reason to assume they will magically start now. But yes, if such a thing happened we would be a useless shithole like Africa.
Severely outnumbered? Have you looked at the cities recently?
In her Twitter profile she has "wannabe math person". Sorry, but when the very most basic math fundamentals are too much to grasp you can never be a math person. Even chimpanzees understand math better than her. This is so mind numbingly stupid I wonder how she can even function in life.
She also is doing a PhD thesis revolving around how to better educate black girls in math. Black girls are sooooo fucked now.
All federal money going to colleges and universities needs to stop. We have been funding this nonsense and paying for them to indoctrinate our young people.
The parallels to 1984 are crazy https://i.maga.host/01Zo4F8.jpg
The maths is rayciss
What a nappy-headed ho.
lol. No, just as you might guess she has white lady hair and looks about as black as Kamala Harris. The less black you are the more you want the world to know you are black and oppressed.
2 + 2 = 5 for large values of 2
Was going to post the same thing. I think the og joke is worded as "exceptionally large"... I wish this person was joking
That my friend is about the funniest thing I've heard in a while. In that vein, 2 / 2 approaches 0 for very large values of two.
I see you've done calculus...
I am a big fan of tolerance.
It's sysSTEMic racism!!
"Way of knowing" is an IdPol social marxist danger phrase. If you hear someone say it, know they are your enemy.
Ring of Knowing sounds like something you'd find playing D&D. Not PhD.
That’s like when hitler banned qm physics and relativity because they were Jewish inventions, and Germany would only use aryan science instead.
Post-modernist cultural marxists will bend reality to be whatever is most convenient to them at the time. Maybe 2+2 isn't 4 today, but perhaps tomorrow it will be; the day after that it'll be 22. The destruction of a consistent objective reality is a threat to them because they are not consistent themselves.
Look fat, the fact is we value truth over facts, come on man. lol
There is a part in 1984 when they force the character(Winston?) to believe 2 + 2 equals 5. If that crap starts happening I’ll be sure I’m living through a simulation.
Hey.
They’re the party of science. Not math. Duh.
Numbers and counting are now white supremacy
"Sometimes, Winston. [Sometimes it is four.] Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once" -1984
Basic math has been around since more than 3000 BC.
This stupid bitch is wrong on so many levels she should lose her license and not be permitted near children.
I think her real name is O'Brien.
I think it’s Emmanual Goldstein.
Oh no. That’s Trump due to their constant Two Minutes of Hate.
Lol yes Trump is Goldstein. Thank god for that.
I guess the Chinese finally have to admit to western superiority then
So I was over my friends and their parent is a social worker that works at the "bad kid school". Just kids that are disruptive/ can't sit still. So during Covid, they do zoom meetings 2 per day with kids (those that show up not even 50% of them show lol). Anyway, passing by the room she was in I overheard her say, "so guys sometimes 2+2 can equal 5".... Couldn't believe what I was hearing. I didn't get the explanation but that shit was clear as day.
Really doing a great job of defying the stereotype of black people being uneducated and ignorant.
Teacher is wrong. 2+2= Orange man bad
It is also the revised Pythagorean theorem, x^2 + y^2 = orange mans bad
Furthermore it strangely turns out that the solution to Poincares Conjecture is also orange man bad.
Can't watch it but I'm hoping it's a two year old proving that out with blocks.
LITERALLY 1984: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_%2B_2_%3D_5
Haha, you beat me to it
A fucking PHD???? Where's she work? Needs to be fired immediately
She's a Ph D candidate at Rutgers in the "Africana" department.
This foolishness will only increase her standing among her peers.
I was looking for the shitpost tag. I should have known better.
And maybe the reason for retarded level IQ is genetic? This is what diversity gets us folks; quotas and people who are full on retarded teaching your children. Blacks say they have really bad schools, they need look no further than the black teachers. No amount of money is going to fix retarded.
This is not just one special circumstance here. There was a black teacher in Seattle who in the first wave of BLM took up a bullhorn in public and called for reparations and killing of people.
And it's Marxist whites too.
"A government-school document shows that students in Seattle will learn math in an “ethnic studies framework” that depicts the subject as oppressive, and that the right answer to a math question might be relative to a person’s ethnicity and culture." Stay out of Seattle folks.
We are catering to the stupidest kids and most retarded cultures represented and everyone suffers. If math is too oppressive get the fuck out of my country.
Tweety bird?
Such nonsense
Anyone ever see the movie 1984?
"Freedom is the ability to say 2 + 2 = 4, the rest follows"
these people want a society like 1984.