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seniorpede 8 points ago +8 / -0

The African slave trade predates European involvement by several hundred years. Europeans made use of a market that already existed. The slaves were captured and put up for sale by other Africans - Europeans purchased what was already available. Africans were not chosen due to any particular racial animus - rather, it was economics. They had the ability to tolerate tropical climates and had resistance to a number of tropical diseases (remember, the vast majority of African slaves went to the Caribbean and South America to work the sugar plantations, not the American colonies).

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side_o_beef 5 points ago +5 / -0

What you're saying is 100% true, but my point stands. There's an existing market for black tar heroin, hitmen, and underage prostitutes today, but I don't engage in it because it will cause me more problems than it's worth.

I think that the whole practice of buying slaves back then was idiotic, morally wrong, and lazy. And now we have BLM in America, great outcome.

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seniorpede 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lazy? What would have been a non-lazy alternative approach given the time period and location? This whole Atlantic slave trade thing kicked off in the 1500s.

And you deciding to avoid black tar heroin isn't really an accurate analogy. That would cause direct harm to YOU, not your descendants hundreds of years from now. Who knows what perfectly acceptable things you're doing today will be judged to be abhorrent by your great great great great grandchildren?

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side_o_beef 1 point ago +1 / -0

Look, they were super racist and didn’t want their children to mix with black people right? Well what did they think would eventually happen if they imported millions of black people? Again, it’s laziness. It’s like getting drunk every night to make life easier whereas you really should sit down and budget.

The Greeks had invented a proto steam engine and thought it was no more than a toy because they couldn’t conceive of using anything but slaves to do labor. Same shit. Slavery halts societal advancement and causes more problems down the road than it solves today.

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seniorpede 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, the Greeks also didn't have the advanced metallurgy and precision machining necessary to make an actual functioning steam engine, either. The ability to harness pressurized steam is only one small part of the overall picture. You might as well say "they clearly knew about the sun, so why no solar panel arrays??"

Again, you're using the benefit of centuries of hindsight to assume that folks in those days were simply too daft and lazy to see what is so clearly obvious to you only a few hundred years later.

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