My fiancee and I went for a long evening walk along the river from Crystal City to Old Town Alexandria for dinner/drinks, with the plan to cab it home after. About 10 mins after sunset we were maybe 200 yards from the main part of town/population center, but still having to cross a park (surrounded by million dollar homes and a nice office complex) and it was getting dark. I saw a group of what looked like 10-15 teenagers on the path ahead and didn’t think much of it. Regardless, the safest place was on the other side of them, not the direction we came from, if they had bad intentions. As we passed by them the ring leader pulled in behind and started to follow/provoke us. He started with insults and escalated to threats. The others started to close in, so I grabbed my fiancee’s hand, said “walk fast” and picked up the pace so as to avoid being circled in. It wasn’t until I was shoved violently from behind for the 2nd/3rd time that I started to think, “shit... I am going to have to fight for my life tonight. Or at least hold these fuckers off long enough for my fiancee to get away.” I told my fiancee “get ready to run,” expecting an escalation (body blow, violent punch, knock to the head, etc.) and the need to turn around and engage. During all this, I had my head on a swivel, had to stiff arm the ring-leader and a few others multiple times, and kept forcefully saying, “get back, get the fuck back.” After about 100 yards of getting shoved, blocking a few projectiles thrown, etc., we finally neared lit city streets, and they skulked back to the shadows, but man was it close. The biggest lesson I learned is how quickly things can change. One minute we are entering a nice park surrounded by beautiful homes, the next minute, a small window of opportunity (still dusk, but just dark enough and rare moment of no one else around) opens up for a group of thugs to pounce. Next time I’ll leave 15 minutes earlier. We are white and they were all black btw.
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My fiancee and I went for a long evening walk along the river from Crystal City to Old Town Alexandria for dinner/drinks, with the plan to cab it home after. About 10 mins after sunset we were maybe 200 yards from the main part of town/population center, but still having to cross a park (surrounded by million dollar homes and a nice office complex) and it was getting dark. I saw a group of what looked like 10-15 teenagers on the path ahead and didn’t think much of it. Regardless, the safest place was on the other side of them, not the direction we came from, if they had bad intentions. As we passed by them the ring leader pulled in behind and started to follow/provoke us. He started with insults and escalated to threats. The others started to close in, so I grabbed my fiancee’s hand, said “walk fast” and picked up the pace so as to avoid being circled in. It wasn’t until I was shoved violently from behind for the 2nd/3rd time that I started to think, “shit... I am going to have to fight for my life tonight. Or at least hold these fuckers off long enough for my fiancee to get away.” I told my fiancee “get ready to run,” expecting an escalation (body blow, violent punch, knock to the head, etc.) and the need to turn around and engage. During all this, I had my head on a swivel, had to stiff arm the ring-leader and a few others multiple times, and kept forcefully saying, “get back, get the fuck back.” After about 100 yards of getting shoved, blocking a few projectiles thrown, etc., we finally neared lit city streets, and they skulked back to the shadows, but man was it close. The biggest lesson I learned is how quickly things can change. One minute we are entering a nice park surrounded by beautiful homes, the next minute, a small window of opportunity (still dusk, but just dark enough and rare moment of no one else around) opens up for a group of thugs to pounce. Next time I’ll leave 15 minutes earlier. We are white and they were all black btw.
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They were black? Mind.Blown.
yes, it never happened before... I mean CNN never mentioned it...
It would certainly be the first instance of black on white violence in the US.
Why use the N word when we have the J word now.
Racist black men are just male Karens, change my mind
Well it never happened, OP was seeing things. Remember how Reddit says that the oppressed never commit felonies? Or commit crimes?
So I take it you've already scheduled your CCW class?
Guns aren't allowed in democrat Utopia.
Except for criminals, they can kill with impunity. That's not a problem at all. Someone dare use it to defend themselves? That can't be allowed.
The media has convinced people that even stating that they were black and what they were doing is a hate crime.
Appreciated... Yeah, glad how it turned out, but not going to lie. If in that situation again, having some form of self-defense (beyond my fists) would be preferred. I was looking at those collapsible batons the other night.
Check with the local ordinances first. A friend that took the CCW class was informed the batons are considered deadly weapons and not simply a deterrent. But then again, better to beg forgiveness for being prepared for the worst case vs asking permission and something terrible happens.
Collapsible baton is a fucking FELONY in KKKalifornia!
so ridiculous
What about a bike lock ?
Oh, bike lock is just fine - especially if you're a dirty fucking pinko commie!
Im a gen-xer, 6 ft 5, 235, have 3 brothers around the same size. We all live in the enemy camp, Cambridge MA. Its funny, but nobody ever looked at me or my brothers funny when we wear our MAGA hats. Ever. Why is that? Just luck maybe?
When you have 18" arms, quite simply nobody fucks with you.
(Not that I do, but it's a rule I've never seen broken)
Get armed before Gov. Blackface makes it even harder to acquire firearms.
That said, Alexandria is tough since most of that population is DC-democrat and neo-cons working in the Pentagon.
Also, I always assumed that the population in Alexandria/Fairfax was overwhelmingly white? Admittedly the other side of the river is the really really bad part of DC.
I'm sorry you had to go through that, and it's not too late to move to Arlington where things haven't gone too bad.
You spelled the word gun wrong mate.
Nope, airsoft rifles count as guns.
Firearms go bang-pew or brrrrt.
Virginia is an open carry state, no permit required. Now, granted, certain localities have been granted permission as of July 1 to enact stricter laws/regulations pertaining to where you can and cannot carry, but Virginia is still not like Maryland or New York City when it comes to this thing.
At least until next month, when blackface gets his special session to ban everything.
Open carry has been illegal in Alexandria and Fairfax for a while.
The cucking of VA started in those two counties.
No, it hasn't been illegal.
Are you sure about that?
Search Alexandria.
Spez: Says effective July 1, 2020 but I can't find the specific ordinance which Alexandria passed right after the Virginia Beach shooting which started all this.
Colin Flaherty warned everyone.
Look him up.
Watch the videos.
Share them with friends.
This. 100%. If you don't listen to the white girl bleed alot podcast you should.
That's the one, I listen to it on stitcher
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/bill-gunderson/white-girl-bleed-a-lot
A bit of a warning on Colin. Don't watch or listen to his stuff everyday unless you like high blood pressure and being angry all the time. Take Colin content in small doses don't binge. Trust me I know I went through it way back when he still had a YouTube channel.
How can they even afford to be in old town
it's all part of that wonderful public transportation system the libs NEVER EVER shut up about... The trains and buses that make it easy/fast/cheap to move from ghettos to upscale neighborhoods, courtesy of the taxpayer.
Yay, light rail! (not really)
Still projects in old town. I still laugh because that city is so packed with virtue signalling leftist millionaires, yet non of them said a peep as the city pushed out the bulk of the project blocks to rezone for multi-million dollar townhomes and condos for the leftist ruling class.
I think it is vestiges of workers placed within the proximity of The Torpedo Factory, which is now an art center/rental facility, but once a factory for torpedoes. There is an area of subsidized housing that many years later, is now surrounded by affluent neighborhoods.
Wait, so they weren't white people with Trump hats yelling, "This is MAGA country"???
I've found this sentiment to be fairly common among black Republicans. They desire a political civil war drawn along political lines, because they don't want a race war wherein your skin color is your uniform. They have far more in common with us than they do with their own demographic.
And I can't blame them for that in the slightest, because you are right about the inevitable outcome.
Yea exactly, well remember this. Even during the first Civil War there were blacks who fought for the Confederacy. They were not fighting FOR slavery, as so many revisionists and propagandists like to make the war about, they were fighting for THEIR homelands and people.
So despite the absolute state of racism and slavery they felt patriotic enough to risk their lives to fight for their people. It won't be a race war it will be a war to preserve our liberties and freedoms. And I imagine we will have patriots from all walks of life with us.
Yeah as an American of Mexican descent I sometimes wonder what side I’m going to have to fight on if a race war ever pops off.
You will want to pick the white side immediately.
My aforementioned fiance was NOT a fan of young black men, for these very reasons.
Egged on by “interested parties”.
You are absolutely correct.
Now, here's how I see it.
I have empathy for people who feel they are hostages in a land where most people don't look like them.
And this is why I think it would be great to create a reparations package that sends black people to Africa and educates them so they can hold back the Chinese.
That would give them a purpose -- a useful purpose that protects Africa AND the rest of the world.
So...it could be a win-win situation to send to Africa those people who hate it here.
They could REALLY fight against slavery then. Actual slavery.
This could work out well for everyone if we do it right.
But what about those who wish to stay?
Haha normally I'd disagree with the whole premise but since BLM has specifically stated they want to be resettled as a part of their deal I think this is actually great criteria.
Ghana and Liberia are waiting for them with open arms.
Then they need to tighten up their game. If they don't want to play by first world rules then they get forced reparations by means of a one way ticket to Africa.
I dunno about having contributed NOTHING, but... yeah. This.
Oh, that make more sense. I though you meant overall, but in that case, you're right. It's just when you said contributed nothing, my immediate though was 'they've gotta have given world culture SOMETHING, right?... Zoo's maybe?
Anyways, good points. I wish that Africa would get its crap straight and actually set up some good governments. Stabilize the situation, at least a little bit. (Then maybe we wouldn't have to send our guys over just to get shot)
There are a lot of really good ones. Problem is that you have two populations with an average of 18 IQ apart. The bell curves still overlap substantially.
The problem is that all the problems happen in the low end of that curve. In the 70-80 range. Very few whites in that range; quite a few blacks though. Low IQ and criminality is well observed.
Fucking joggers. I would never live in a city again. I know i would have to kill someone. Probably more than one.
The message to teenage joggers today is, you can do whatever you want, and no one can stop you. Thats what is so evil about the false narrative that all blacks are oppressed. A whole generation is being lead to believe they cant be successful because of their skin color, which is bullshit.
Get a jogger fogger.
This is why I moved from the area after we had our first kid.
I said no way am I raising a child in this place.
Moved to a rural place that was about 99% white.
You could leave your door unlocked at the time.
I'm part Hispanic and I live in a nice part of my town surrounded by whites, Asians, and a few Hispanic people.
I didn't realize my truck was unlocked over the weekend.
Nothing was stolen. Imagine that.
We even stay off each others yards, unless invited. Who knew mutual respect was a winning solution?
The irony being that 2 or 3 of the wealthiest counties in America are right outside of DC
taxation theft fueled those counties.
The firehose of taxation leaks around the spigot + influence isn't going to buy itself.
That idea has been around since I was a kid in Detroit 50 years ago. It's probably universal for any major city. In my case if they are getting my wallet I'm probably dead anyway.
Or, carry an empty wallet, if a mugger asks you for it, throw the wallet in one direction, and run in the other
It's called a privilege tax.
30 round mags clearly aren't adequate anymore
My XDM-9 Compact holds 19+1 and thoroughly conceals. Train and practice your reloads.
I need to get one of those. I have one of the pre-M XD-40s and I really like it, but some days 12 rounds for practice just doesn't feel like enough.
That's one thing I wanted to buy but didn't get to before this all happened. Really wanted to get a double stack.
A few years back Springfield ran a promotion where they gave out like 4 free magazines. I wanna say two were the 19-round and two were the 13-round. Sweet deal. The gun isn’t going to win any matches (not least of all because it’s in my hands..) but for a reliable compact with such high capacity I’m not sure it can be beaten.
You're no fun!
Kidding you for saying Semi is better than automatic. If I need to thin out a herd of joggers I really don't plan on doing a price per bullet cost analysis. I want the gat go brrrrrr!
If you happen to run into a full auto uzi vendor gimme a holla!
Somebody needs to experiment with paintball guns if full auto is better than semi and pulling the trigger rapidly when getting mobbed at close range.
is a flamethrower considered semi or full auto? asking for a friend.
Ironically it’s not technically a firearm in the US no background check. They are basically complicated super soakers filled with diesel.
it was a rhetorical question. if it projects a flame > 8' it's consider a weapon of mass destruction and subject to the "other weapons" limitations of the NFA.
edit: well, I'll be a monkey's uncle -- did some research (thanks to brother_red) and I was 100% wrong. Flamethrower have not been classified under the NFA or follow-on BATF rulings. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-flamethrower-why-government-cant-stop-2018-2 https://vulcanflamethrowers.com/pages/are-flamethrowers-legal-to-own etc.
Yeah I definitely researched this before for reasons lol.
Props for seeing the facts and changing your opinion you’re definitely a conservative lol.
Cite please.
I have never ever heard that.
edited, above. I was repeating what I heard from a vendor at a show. That'll teach me! thanks for the prompting to look it up.
Lol! Yeah, gunshow vendors.
Dipshit probably thinks you need a "class 3 license" to own a machinegun.
I know California regulates flame throwers, but federally, they are not prohibited.
You are a class act, brother pede.
What happens if you have automatic weapons anyway?
The old rule: Stick to clean, well-lit places after dark.
Yeah, good rule. We planned to arrive in time to catch sunset, but mistimed our walk by 10-15 minutes. It was still dusk, but I guess in the current environment, best to not cut it so close.
Indeed--and I think you handled that extremely well; you had good situational awareness and didn't ignore the threat but only took defensive action--they will always test you to see how much trouble you'd be, and you showed you weren't intimidated and quickly moved away from the area. Well done!
I think grabbing the fiancee's hand and speeding up was a mistake, never show fear.
I'm a tall dude, run 25 miles a week, hit gym 3x a week, and know how to fight. I wasn't afraid so much as pissed. Moving quickly with her close was so that we didn't get separated and she raped. That was my biggest concern.
And FYI, I have been in a lot of situations were i was a mixture of scared, and angry, not sure which to what extent, but my adrenaline was pumping, that is natural, but never give the appearance of showing fear
It's not about size, or whether you were actually afraid, it is about appearing afraid. Unless you could outrun them, quickening the pace does no good
Did you report this to police, and if so, what, if anything, did they do about it?
The DC Police won't do shit. I lived in that area for years, and I carried a gun illegally because nothing else was going to protect me and my family. I'd rather face those consequences than end up dead at the hands of dindus.
I believe you are looking for the old sage saying:
This is the state of Virginia.
It doesn't really matter where it is. With the exception of small towns the police have little interest in any such cases where there are no injuries. I was attacked in Laguna Beach, CA and they didn't even write a report up. It was a big waste of time to even bother going to the police department to report it.
Really by who? Laguna Beach is usually nice in my memory. Haven't been in a couple years tho.
I was surf fishing and some punk ran up behind me full speed and attempted to knock me into the water. He obviously never played football because he went high and I outweighed him by at least 50 pounds. He ended up on his ass and he quickly got up and ran down the beach to meet his friends. He was holding his lower back as they walked away down the beach, so he apparently got the worst of it. Things could have gone badly though if it were a woman or an older man of smaller stature that he tried that on, which is why I reported it. The female cop couldn't be bothered with it though after I told her I wasn't injured.
Virginia is easy to get a CC though.
Can you CC in old town?
I would rather get in trouble for having a gun than get killed by thugs.
DC Police = BLM
DC Metro Transit Police are good though
He wasn't in DC. Also just the police showing up might deter the attackers and save someone's life. It would be irresponsible not too.
The police showing up might also take twenty minutes, or not show up at all.
That's a ridiculous reason to not report a crime. Especially one that could save other people's lives.
That's what I thought too when I reported being attacked, and they didn't even bother writing a report. I was pissed off that I wasted my time reporting it.
I didn't say don't report it. I said the police are inadequate to defend you against a pack of rabid animals. Especially when the situation is immediate.
A gun is seconds away. When you're in a blue city, you are on your own.
Which would deter the group from assaulting someone else? Would that not be a good thing?
It wouldn't deter them at all. They're rabid animals, don't expect rationality from them.
Police often set their patrols based on reports. The more reports, the more they patrol. So it is always good to file a report
If they "patrolled" in the first place, there wouldn't be packs of rabid animals running around harassing people.
You're putting the cart before the horse. The prerequisite for all of these "call the cops" suggestions is the assumption that the police actually perform their basic function.
They don't. They are converged, they are an arm of the DNC and nothing else.
If OP had shot some of these animals for their attempt to kill him and his fiancee, OP would be going to jail for a "hate crime". The DC police exist to push a leftist agenda.
There are 2 different issues. One is the systematic issue of the current state of lawlessness. The other, is dealing with the immediate circumstances. Police for the most part, still divide their patrols based on the number of calls/reports in each region. Whether police will take any action or not, is a different story, but visible patrols are still a deterrent
What I'm trying to tell is that no, they are not. The mere fact that this happens at all, and OP's incident is far from the only one by the way, is proof positive that they do not have control of the streets. DC is a hole, and no one should ever go near that area after about 5pm.
My main assertion is that they aren't trying to control the streets in the first place. They haven't for about ten or twenty years.
The systematic issues are the direct cause of the immediate issue, and the immediate issue is a symptom of the cause.
Suggesting any kind of reliance on the DC police when rabid gangs attack you, is like calling Crowdstrike if the DNC hacks your email.
With no injuries involved they are unlikely to show up at all, and the attackers would likely be long gone at that point in any case.
Since you brought it up, what would happen if you were in a situation sort of like this and ended up having to shoot someone but you were carrying illegally, versus having a cc permit?
Good question. If I carried knowing it wasn't legal in that jurisdiction, I'd contact a lawyer first, then have the lawyer contact the police. Tends to make things a lot less horrid than if you simply turned yourself in w/o a lawyer or worse, went home and hoped that no one who could ID you saw you leave the scene.
(though to be honest, I bet that if you did simply go home and not say anything, in DC or Chicago you'd likely get away with it, since something like 75% of all murders there go unsolved.)
I would probably be charged with murder, given DC's penchant for ensuring that only black criminals get away with weapons violations. But that's better than being dead.
You would face charges for carrying illegally even if it was a legal shoot. There have been plenty of cases like that on the books.
Thats what I'm wondering what the charges would be and or the punishment? Say someone pulls a knife and charges you, you pull out your gun and kill him but have no cc...can they charge you with murder since you dont have cc? Kind of confused in the meaning and point of owning it.
The nature of the charges vary by jurisdiction, but illegally carrying a firearm is a felony in many jurisdictions. That charge is separate from any charges filed for using the weapon in self defense. If you were justified in shooting an armed assailant then you would not be charged with murder even if you were carrying illegally.
The nature of the charges vary by jurisdiction, but illegally carrying a firearm is a felony in many jurisdictions. That charge is separate from any charges filed for using the weapon in self defense. If you were justified in shooting an armed assailant then you would not be charged with murder even if you were carrying illegally.
Right as we exited the park and were back in "civilization," we spotted an officer in a cruiser and approached the car. We told him about the incident and he responded as if he knew who/what group we were referring to. He asked us some specifics about where it happened, description of group, people, etc. and seemed anxious to head that way. He basically said "sorry that happened to you" and headed off quickly in the direction we came from. We were glad to see a quick response, as opposed to being dismissed.
I'm glad to hear that there hasn't been a complete collapse of policing in northern VA.
Unfortunately, if you aren't injured they usually won't even bother taking a report. That was my experience after being attacked several years and attempting to do the right thing by reporting it. They aren't going to catch them, must less prosecute them.
There's Internet Points to be had Fren!!!! They will make sure your asswhoopin is spread far and wide.
This.
Friends/family might help. Try to travel in packs, like the joggers do. Unfortunately, white people seem to enjoy doing things solo or in duos, without a million homies to back them up.
Yep I want to live in a place where you can fire a gun and no one cares because no one hears. If you see someone, then that person is likely a threat unless they are a neighbor -- one of two who live within the 10 mile radius of your home.
Sigh.
Ah, me. Bliss. THIS pede gets it.
South Dakota or Nebraska seems nice this time of year.
I had the same as a 11 year old kid in Chicago. I am visibly Jewish, and some middle eastern grown ass man got up in my face and started yelling at me how the Palistinians were going to kill me and my family.
This was on a busy sidewalk with a bunch of people. I ducked into a store, and the guy kept walking
People might help a woman by herself, but that's it. If you're a guy or a couple, not many people are risking their life and cops are 5-10 minutes away. You could lose your life 5-10 times over by the time the cops get there..
A gun is the only answer.
Sorry that didn't happen on my turf in my time- I would have stepped up, and the somebody hurt would have been them. 😼
I never let abuse or violence or harrassment go, even kids I totally didn't know. It isn't ok, and either you live your values of protect the innocent or you are a fraud even to yourself.
People keep asking why we need 30rd magazines...
Now they are asking why we need police...
Which answers the question of why we need 60 round drums.
I need intercontinental ballistic missiles with multiple independently retargetable reentry vehicles. For interdicting tyranny.
you can't even bring knife to DC
Only 30 rounds? Gotta pump up those numbers!
Yea it sucks that they won't do anything, BUT, it should still be reported and he should get a case #. Crimes like this need to be reported so that the crime stats for the area are more accurate. Those crime stats are a big part of how resources are allocated.
Right as we exited the park and were back in "civilization," we spotted an officer in a cruiser and approached the car. We told him about the incident and he responded as if he knew who/what group we were referring to. He asked us some specifics about where it happened, description of group, people, etc. and seemed anxious to head that way. He basically said "sorry that happened to you" and headed off quickly in the direction we came from. We were glad to see a quick response, as opposed to being dismissed.
It's 2020, this happens every 5 seconds. I don't think the cops would file a report.
Nope, I wouldn't even give them the benefit of the doubt. Cross the street next time.
Well then he would be a racist!
Benefit of the the doubt <<< Political Correctness
Even though we're on the side of not being politically correct, there are still subtle things we have slowly learned to be "normal." We must now unlearn the brainwashing.
Yeah that doesn't work either. They like to follow you around and if you act scared they get worse and call you a racist for being afraid of the black man.
Situational awareness is key. Discretion is preferable. Failing that, I'd rather be called names and followed than allow a mob to close distance. I'd turn a corner and try to ditch them. If I had an SO or lady friend, I'd have her lose her impractical shoes so she could run. Being armed or not does not change the equation, closing distance with a mob is a tactical mistake.
It was a weird place. We basically walked out of the tip of a funnel. We could really only go forward or back where we came from, which would have been worse if they were looking for targets. Back luck/timing really.
It's always a pack of them.
Fucking cowards
Odd are, if you kill 5-6 of them, the others won't stick around.
You can't drink and concealed carry in VA or most states.
legally.
a mob of joggers can't assault people (legally) either. and yet they do.
No you just need to understand when you can and should conceal carry and when you shouldn't.
Personally I wouldn't worry about it.
I might worry about it when times are calm, but in 2020, it's worth the risk to be armed at all times.
Good situational awareness. I assume it's impossible to concealed carry in DC. I was lucky enough to be able to move to a state with shall-issue permits. May God watch over you and yours.
You can conceal carry in D.C. However, not sure if it would have helped in this situation. He did the right thing.
These people operate in ways that make it hard to shoot one of them and you not be charged with murder over it.
Thanks. I am technically in VA and have guns. I just didn't think to carry for that situation, but you never know I guess.
Not surprised - old town was sketchy last time I was there <2 weeks ago. Right now I would be very careful about midnight mobs in the area - the DMV is feeling like a pressure cooker (newsflash!!!)
BTW I’m in Crystal City - head definitely on a swivel here
When I go out at night I be sure to carry a tactical flashlight with me, 1000 lumens. Bright enough to stun people at night and make an escape, crenulated head to do some damage if close quarters combat happens
Wouldn’t work on a pack of 15
True, true
Those 15 thugs would beat you in the head with it.
Point is to stun them from a distance and run lol. Nothing you can carry discreetly in your pocket can save you from 15 assailants
A S&W Shield fits nicely in a pocket. It can definitely save you from 15 assailants.
Not if you're in a cucked state with no CCW laws 😢
Dude sorry about that. Being victimized by a criminal mob is a horrible experience. I've been hearing about stuff like that there since at least seven or so years ago. Guess it's really gone to hell. Or gone more to hell than it was before.
According to reddit you must now enter a re-education camp.
Also the left destroyed black families in the US and they’re trying to do the same to white families. See Antifa and Marxist.
I lived for 10 years in Baltimore, MD. If there's one thing I learned, it's that if a black guy starts approaching you at night, the only correct response is to immediately sprint in the other direction.
I should clarify. This is not a reflection of all blacks. Just the ones that beeline towards you after the sun goes down.
Hispanics in AZ will pray with you in the street and cry.
I love this country so much sometimes.
OP -
I've had this sort of encounter with blacks (I'm white), no exaggeration - AT LEAST 15 times in my life.
I feel for you. You should see what it's like when your fiance is ALSO black. One 4th of July, years ago, we had almost the exact same situation when leaving the fireworks display downtown. They surrounded my car, trying to push it over, or something. Threw rocks at us... and just like with you, probably 15-20 of them.
Ironically, we got jumped and assaulted by another group of blacks a few years later... on the 4th of July! Again!
I dated black girls a couple times. Seems like the black dudes get super upset when they see a white guy with a black girl. But it’s totally fine for them to bang white chicks!
Crazy and sorry to hear that. A few buddies of mine have had similar incidents (mugged, attacked, etc.) in Baltimore over the years. You never think it will happen to you until is does. Definitely need to stay alert and avoid certain situations/places.
Should of shit those motherfuckers. Believe me i will be judged by 12 but i will not be carried by 6.
i wanna fight next to this guy.
I know that there used to be issues up north of Old Town, though it sounded like they had gotten better some years back. I'm sadly not surprised to hear that things may be headed downhill again given the refusal of leaders in many left-leaning towns to condemn the (anti-white) racist rhetoric and mob violence. Worse still, I wouldn't be shocked if concealed carry was now banned in that park - Northam and the leftists passed gun "reform" allowing municipalities to declare areas where carrying is prohibited, and of course Alexandria was first in line to trample on citizen's rights. Sorry to hear this in any case and glad that the outcome wasn't worse. Thanks for the head's up and stay safe!
Oh, please.
You spelled out the issue, but won’t accept when someone else spells out what the consequences would be.
Cops are becoming the thing that’s enabling this type of behavior. They are “ordered” to stand down for certain behavior, yet quickly arrest or intervene against the pushback from law abiding citizens.
I hope you’re stopped in traffic by a mob. Maybe you’ll see the light.
Well, they need to do their fucking job.
Following orders to stand down is unacceptable. You may support them as the thin blue line, but people are being fucked up due to the higher-ups calling for selective action.
Riddle me this: Cops gave an escort for the recent black panther takeover of our streets in Atlanta. They intimidated people in traffic with guns drawn while asking for reparations with the blessing of the police. Do you support that?
I know an Alexandria PD officer. He says it's like they've gone back in time 20-30 years with petty crime and assaults. Catch and release doesn't help either.
I'd bet even money those 'leaders' are fomenting it behind the scenes.
Thanks! Stay safe too.
Appreciated.
...never relax.
You need to carry a gun. Fuck them. The first time somebody tries to attack me violently they are fucking dead.
parks are fun. http://archive.is/Xvakm
I have to admit with all that has been happening lately I keep this old lady pede head on a swivel!
Just this morning I stopped to pick up some dog supplies from a great upscale pup boutique in my town. As I came out of the store there was a scruffy looking black guy just standing there looking at me. I stopped dead in my tracks, reached into my bag and put my hand around one of the big bones I got for my 97 pound dog.
I literally backed into my car and jumped inside and immediately locked the door. The guy was still just standing there staring at me. I'm not going to take any chances. I will no longer turn my back on black people.
Their recent unprovoked attacks on whites have made me lose all trust in any of them. I'm not taking any chances. They did this, they made this, they created my fear. Fear that wasn't there before.
If you want to be treated as equals stop acting like feral dogs.
Americans need to stay out of Communist Democrat shit hole cities, period.
There’s a Facebook Group called “Bringing Integrity Back to Alexandria! End Seminary Rd Diet and Other Bad Ideas” Please consider joining and posting your incident in the group. Call out the mayor by name - Justin Wilson. Demand he explain why this happened in his city. This cannot be allowed to go unchecked. Our mayor was only recently bloviating how he’s going to work to end systemic racism in Alexandria. I’m really shocked this happened to you in our shithole because everywhere I go in this city I see virtue signaling signs about Reject Hate, BLM, etc.
Thanks for the heads up. I haven't been on FB in a while, but I'll mention to fiancee to check the page out. We were pretty shocked too, as we are no strangers to the area. I have biked down that trail (Mt. Vernon) many times. Didn't expect to be attacked in that neck of the woods.
The page was originally set up to restore Seminary Road to 4 lanes and 35 mph but has morphed into a bipartisan group of people fed up with the way the mayor and city council are running things. If you want any action on this at all, this is the place to start. You will be doing a service fir others too, to warn them that this sort of thing is going on.
Really, this is not new. It has been happening in inner cities for decades. As a general rule, avoid large groups of teens.
Seems a bit more brazen now, but not new. Had a similar incident back on the 90s.
Yep, agreed. A buddy of mine was jumped by maybe 10 black teens in Baltimore ten years ago. This guy was a tall and jacked division 1 lacrosse player. He got his ass kicked. A major reason why I didn't engage.
Here's a long list of black on white crime, black mob violence, and general black on white hostility:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1273444656047513601.html
You were almost next. Think about that the next time you're in such a situation. Glad you made it out alive.
Here's a YouTube channel with relevant content:
https://www.youtube.com/user/lporiginalg/videos
Every Sunday Night at 9p est, he premieres a new episode. It's quite the event to watch and participate in chat with, and it usually gets me heated/emotional (expect to see death since it's video comprised of violence).
Here's a last weeks NSFL episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOeXUu1u1Bw
SO glad you and your girl are OK!
Thank you!
Sometimes you need the 'double stack'...
I'm a prolific shooter (pistol/rifle/shotgun), CCW holder and instructor for 30+ years and a Special Operations combat veteran and former Law Enforcement. Go ahead and shoot several of them with a concealed pistol... if you're willing to spend $70k minimum on legal fees and be sued for everything you own from their families. I teach that if you carry concealed you should also carry a 'less-lethal' option. I carry really good pepper spray. Sometimes I also carry a Taser C2, an Asp baton and flashlight. While outdoors I use the pepper spray often and don't even report it to the police. If I'm followed by sketchy folks I will covertly spray it behind me so that they stop following me. If confronted I fire pepper spray from the hip (otherwise you telegraph your intentions) and hose down the whole crew. It keeps me from using lethal force. I suggest practicing its use before carrying it.
Do you spray people behind you at close quarters? Or just shoot out a cloud as a warning?
You can just spray it on the ground directly behind you as you walk away. It clouds up and chokes them. Or you can do like I do. I practiced a lot shooting it from hip level up at their face and can deliver a devastating effect in 1 or 2 short blasts.
If you're not black in 2020, carry a gun.
CNN has been trying for 3 years to brainwash everyone to hate white people. It's starting to work and we're now in danger.
Remember to fire your gun before you get punched. One punch can equal a knockout after which they can easily kick you in the head until you're dead or permanently paralyzed.
Buy a gun tomorrow if you don't have one.
As someone who has dealt with a good amount of shit in my days, and has been in some very sticky situations, I will relay some info that was given to me once by a policeman.
In a situation where you come across people you may be suspicious of, leave space, make eye contact (but don't stare), and offer a greeting (hello, or good evening etc.).
There is some statistic that very few assaults happen when you make eye contact, and even less if you spoke to the person. (I know this seems like cowering and a defeatist attitude, but the first priority is survival).
Number 2 and equally important. DO NOT SHOW FEAR, EVER. The fact that you grabbed your fiancee's hand, and sped up is a sign of fear, that is like blood in the water for sharks.
If you walk with confidence, and do not show fear, it deters most potential offenders. I worked in "the projects" in a number of bad places. I had employees mugged and attacked multiple times, no one ever touched me, no one even confronted me.
I asked one of my employees who was from the hood, why that was the case, (bear in mind, he was over 6"2 280lbs, I was 5"9 180lbs), and he told me that no one would touch me because "You are the man". Having a confident bearing is extremely important
All good advice man and I hear what you are saying. We are both tall, very fit, confident, yet friendly people. I travel often for work and have spent countless nights navigating many far seedier cities. How you described is pretty much how we acted. This group was definitely out seeking trouble and we were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Nothing close to this has even happened to me before.
Glad you made it home safe. I have been in a bunch of confrontations, most of them when I was a kid (I am identifiably Jewish, wear one of those things on my head). I have been confronted both alone, and when I was with friends.
I had one instance where a large group of teens approached, and one of them grabbed the hat of my friends head and started yelling at us. My friend was much larger than me, but he froze. I grabbed it right back and told him to fuckoff, and just like that, they apologized and went on their way.
This was the most obvious example I have wear not showing fear pays off. It is not a natural reaction for most people, but comes more natural to me because my temper always outwieighed my natural fear. But will come easier the more you experience it (hopefully you don"t)
I have worked as a regional property manager for HUD contracted housing. One complex in Philadelphia had 3 shootings including a police officer in one year before I got there, another in Baltimore, had a shooting and multiple muggings, we hired armed security, but only for a few random hours a day, a few days a week (to expensive for more).
I found the above guidance has served me well over the years
That area right after target after the bridge traveling south on Route 1 is just filled with section 8 housing.
As someone who will be moving to DC for work soon, what would you recommend as far as staying safe? I'm white.
This makes sense of seemingly sheer luck or crazy in the past.
I am ridic not a threat factor by appearance, did not grow up in the hood, but in random street alone or stepping in to protect or stop badness in sketchy places I have never had so much as a shove at me.
I tend to make eye contact and smile a greeting from at least ten feet away and mouth hi, practice the inner warrior confidence in body language while maintaining a relaxed but aware posture and walk.
Unless I'm protective mad, then you'll pray a rabid wolverine will eat you first- and stop the yelling fearless in your face lecturing on behavior and threats lady who might actually kill you; or at least they THINK that.
I've had lots of bemused smiles back, stepping away from my path after walking to intersect it, or downright defensive backpedaling and running away. From clearly very dangerous types, even packs of teens. Ironically, girl teens are the least likely to back down and you end up in a shouting match draw usually.
I used to think that they decided I was armed or otherwise a hidden threat skill as not scared.
Now with this data it makes far more sense.
I remember when my Sensei, the baddest man I have ever known, told me when he approaches a gas station with a bunch of young men loitering out in front that could be a potential issue he just drives to another gas station.
Not moving because you don't think you should have to or want to project strength is a miscalculation. There is no shame in turning around, crossing the street, or doing whatever you need to do to make sure you are safe.
If everyone suddenly realized that and acted accordingly, we'd have a lot less issues than we currently do, IMO.
Amen and good advice. In the heated moments after this happened, my blood was boiling. My primal impulse was to send my fiancee home in a cab, grab a make-shift weapon and run back to the park we passed. In the hours after I second-guessed myself a few times. "I should have knocked out the ring-leader," "should have engaged," etc. At the end of the day, we were both fine, had a nice dinner and a fun night out. All is well that ends well.
You handled this situation excellently. The most important thing is you are here to tell us about it and nothing else happened to either of you.
Going back for revenge would have been a horrible miscalculation. Trying to fight several people at once even more so.
The primal part of our brain is necessary and it is good to know yours is alive, well, and sounds like it wants to take the wheel as soon as you will let it. Good, keep him there and ready. You never know when you might need him.
I think you handled this as well as anyone could be expected to in such a situation. The only thing I would recommend is getting some sort of self defense training for you and your girl.
Security is super important to women. There are few gifts that mean as much as helping them gain some power back for themselves in a world where many of them feel powerless against the men that surround them.
Hell, just taking the time to have this conversation with her, attempting to see the world from her perspective, will likely set you apart from every other man she has ever dated in her lifetime.
Getting my wife some basic training and a stun gun did wonders for her mental health. I knew it'd help her, but never dreamed it'd mean so much. Even she said she was shocked how much it helps her feel better just going about her daily life.
Think I paid like $30 for the first one I got her, I recommend the double pronged ones that spark and make a loud arcing noise as they can be used as a stand-off weapon. I must have bought ten of them and given them to her girlfriends over the years. They are small, rechargeable, and worth every penny, IMO.
Buzzing one of them in the dark will get anyone's attention. Hell nowadays even the cheaper ones have metal shrouds to keep an attacker from being able to grab it away from them without getting lit up.
If you are interested and need a link hit me up.
Yes until you run into another group like them. Best you and fiancé start carrying.
This is so routine, it almost isn't even news anymore. White people should never go out walking in any neighborhood where there is any possibility of encountering diversity.
Sounds like they had no choice here. Then again, drinking near dark in cities nowadays is NOT a good idea.
Just so no to liquor past, say, 4 p.m. ;)
lol the best part is you dont say "i wont be going out again in fear of my safety" but instead say "yeah ill just leave 15 minutes earlier" undeterred & unafraid
this is why USA does not lose, as long as you are not afraid they will never defeat you because fear is all they have
Interesting you say that... We actually went to north Idaho to scope it out as a place to live this past fall/winter. We stayed on Lake Pend Oreille and skiied at Schweitzer. It was great.
Go there NOW!
Hey man, just a tip from someone who is a regular and trained CCW holder, dont discout the effectiveness of an ultra powerful flashlight. Some are almost blinding and theyre completely unregulated. And there small enough to be carried without too much of a hassle.
Consider carrying one. Cockroach scum like these tend to scurry in the light, but more likely, it could buy you time to make a strategic separation from their pack.
There are a few things missing from your story namly pop, pop, pop followed by screaming and running.
CNN Headline: “White couple violently attack group of underprivileged youth”. Seriously, sorry that happened and glad you both made it out of there.
Please carry. Also carry less lethal like pepper spray.
We got out of Arlington 10 years ago. Stay safe.
BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BAGGITY BANG
Wow, OTA's really gone to shit in the last few years, then.
Good job, Governor Coonman. People are really living up to your examples of excellence.
People in broad daylight are being confronted.
Trying to think of where you were. We’re you on the park path that connects Crystal City to Olde Towne? That area of Arlandria users to be known as Little Chililagua after a particularly violent town in El Salvador. I used to live in one of those million dollar homes. It’s street by street there.