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They're not idiots, maybe they're about to flip it on us and make it look like Conservatives are the ones behind cancel culture. They'll probably soon say "Cancel Culture is because of Trump's America"
It's right there in the letter, from the article linked by OP:
While we have come to expect this on the radical right, censoriousness is also spreading more widely in our culture: an intolerance of opposing views, a vogue for public shaming and ostracism, and the tendency to dissolve complex policy issues in a blinding moral certainty.
Literally who on the left has ever been censored? If anything they push way too far with bullshit like Drag Queen Story Hour just hoping to be censored so that they can make a story out of it.
The 90's did have some "Are video games dangerous to our children!?" moments, but that was pretty much right down the middle politically speaking, and if you look around, it's still happening, only there's just one side saying it now. Hillary championed that cause for fucks sake.
Maybe the Satanic Panic? Like when they tried to ban D&D and the whole "Halloween is Satanic and we have to stop it!" bullshit in the early 80's? But the last time I heard anyone religious say we need to ban some form of speech, they had a turban on their head, and as far as I can tell those people are just peachy with the far left.
But otherwise, I can't think of anything else significant happening in the way of censorship from the right in about forty years. Why? Because we've outgrown that nonsense. It's the biggest reason I vote Republican, not Democrat. Free speech isn't a right, it's a necessity that must be guarded.
Social engineering, which is what this is, is just another form of oppression used to control us. Censorship is just a lukewarm version of murder. When you take someone's life, you take away everything they're ever going to say. Censorship does the same, only they aren't dead yet.
Seeing them call for less censorship is fine, but you and I both saw the same thing. They're only saying that they should not be censored. They would be overjoyed to allow us to never be heard again. If we are not free to speak, then we cannot allow them that freedom to be held over us.
The only thing I can remember that even comes close to conservatives pushing for censorship is that a vote came up for flag burning amendment to the Constitution. About half of the GOP voted for it. Personally, I don't even think this really counts as "censoring speech".
That whole D&D thing is utter nonsense. Bunch of nerds trying make it out like they were edgy. I went to a Christian high school in the 80s. A clique of nerds was playing D&D. No one cared. The several pastors at the school did not care. We just made fun of them for their nerdy game. They were probably butthurt over it.
Video games? I don't remember any prominent GOP politicians even talking about censoring or banning video game content. At any rate, no one playing in the 90s ever thought that games were under threat. The one or two voices that made it to the public discourse, like Jack Thompson, were no threat at all. His prominence was largely a function of media wanting stories to create fear. But Jack and a few others have been made out by later gamers to be boogeymen threatening to take away their vidya. Bullshit. This again, is later gaymers either trying to make it out that gaming is edgy or else progressive trying to smear conservatives.
Tim Pool seems to have this idea, that right wingers were censoring people, or were a force for censorship, but now its left wingers. This narrative is utter bullshit.
You'd have to go back to the 50s and the Red Scare probably to find conservatives seriously pushing to censor people communists.
There was backlash in the 80s and 90s by both libs and conserv Christians but they eventually lost. Political correctness followed. Cancel culture is uniquely Leftist. The online SJWs and feminists in particular during Obama’s presidency faced real ideological resistance. I think that age group grew up and now leftism under the guise of racism and intersectionality is being pummeled at the youth in legacy and new media. Cancel culture is how you get a Trump presidency. Because no one is feeling up to opposing the Left head on except for him! What I think is happening to JK is hilarious but she’ll never ever change into a right winger. Sad
As someone who was in college during the height of 90s PC crap, I assure you it was pretty nuts. It succeeded, too, at least in the culture. It was way overboard, insisting that “mannequin” be renamed “personnequin” for example, but considering where culture was in 1990 compared to 1995 there was a massive swing. Then they wanted us to believe it never happened, like it’s just always been this way.
They can’t even write a letter protesting their own idiots without filling it full of this garbage. The problem plagued both side of the aisle? No it fucking doesn’t. Trump is a great to democracy? No he fucking isn’t. This letter is CYA shit of the most obvious kind. They’re trying to distance from the monsters they helped to create.
just when I thought some sanity still existed on the left they pull this.
They could have used this opportunity to actually make a stand against cancel culture and their own side but instead decided to fill it with slanderous lies with no real effort to fix anything
ust when I thought some sanity still existed on the left they pull this.
Where do you see any sanity at all? The whole thing is a shitshow of insanity, each of them trying to outdo the next by being even more hysterically insane.
Seriously, is there any leftist politician or media figure who is reasonable? I can't think of even one.
My friends (or... ex-friends now I guess) on the Left are always crowing about Facebook and Twitter censoring them. It's just that they have to do analysis and comparisons to come anywhere near an argument, because they are not being censored.
This is just another bullshit apology in attempt to steer the direction of "cancel culture" (what a dumb fucking phrase btw) back toward 'Rules for thee, but not for me". They want to have their cake and eat it too, just like in everything else they do. The next step down this retarded road is "If we can't control cancel culture, no one can!"
They don’t even fucking boycott, they just threaten it. Conservatives just boycott. Look at NFL ratings the year they kneeled. Look at Star Wars ticket sales as the franchise got more and more woke. Hell, I know NASCAR is trying to spin their ratings, but they should be drawing over 5 million with no competition and even they’re in the shitter.
We've ceded too much ground in the information economy to really see corporations recognize the true market potentials. These firms are hiring advertising students indoctrinated by leftism who have convinced marketing departments to cut out traditional surveying for social media analytics. As someone whose parents sit in corporate marketing committees, I guarantee Gillette put out that advertisement because their marketing department saw that women are their main customers because they control 70% of household spending and women under 40 poll left. They didn't realize you could piss off a minority (men) without moving the needle for women.
I've sat in the room while my parents teleconferenced with Verizon marketing. Some dumb college graduate with a minor in sociology will literally spend 20 minutes talking about how a gay interracial couple being used in commercials is more important than showcasing the damn wireless plan.
A lot of their growth is just coming from expanding into foreign markets.
While "down", they weren't as far down as tv viewership in general. The overall consensus, right or wrong, was that the kneeling controversy was a net positive for viewership.
Don't get me wrong, I blame us. Far too many of us talk a good game, but still ended up watching games, buying tickets, buying apparel, and buying from their advertisers.
I can proudly say I have no idea who was in the Superbowl last year. I'm sure I knew at the time, and I'm certain I heard who won, but that shit means no more to me than who won the world cup (? I think that's soccer). I'm sure I heard it, but it might as well have been the Timbuktu assfuckers, because I dgaf.
Part of the decline in TV viewership is people are just fed up with paying $100 a month for this shit. My parents are both staunch conservatives and I’m trying to get them weened off of cable and it’s just like fucking impossible. They understand why they need to do it, but Boomers are hooked on cable like Marion Barry was hooked on crack.
Part of it is that so much stuff is controlled by the left, that it can be almost impossible to find a non-cucked company to buy from. The left can always boycott My Pillow and still buy pillows. But good luck finding some non-storebrand razors or clothes that aren't advertising themselves as being woke AF.
There are a few brands like Black Rifle company company or My Pillow that are conservative, but for everyone of those, there are a thousand Nikes or Gillettes pandering to the woke mob.
The "Moral Majority" were truly big and loud in the 80's. But compared to cancel culture? Pfft... Jerry Falwell (founded the moral majority) had NOTHING on today's woke, "agree with us, on everything, else you're a nazi" culture.
Absolutely they moved the ball on the field, but that was tame in comparison.
I'll take "moral majority" back anyday compared to this shit.
"Now listen here, on TV you need to say Gosh darn it all to heck, none of that g-damn H word"
"IF YOU DONT THINK WE SHOULD SHOOT 8 YEAR OLDS UP WITH HORMONES AND LET THEM DANCE IN QUEER CLUBS YOU ARE LITERALLY HITLER AND I WILL HAVE YOU, YOUR SPOUSE, AND YOUR NEIGHBOR FIRED"
Some of it was overblown, but they rarely got anything cancelled anyway. Things got more raunchy and crude and the media faked outrage all while pushing it all as cutting edge and groundbreaking. They pushed it on kids as being a forbidden fruit and they ate it up. What's going on today is at a whole new level and instead of pushing for traditional morality it's pushing for degeneracy and communism.
Dude... If you want a society to function there MUST be censorship!
Before you chew me out, hear me out:
Wouldn't you censor or outright ban Fifty Shades of Grey?
What about Mein Kampf?
The Communist Manifesto?
Mao's Little Red Book?
Guess what? If you won't, the left will.
The moral high ground means nothing when your enemy has the political and tactical high ground. And no moral restraints.
Edit: The more easy something is to access, the more you get of it. You make abortion easy, cheap, and socially acceptable, the more dead babies and trafficking of organs you get. The more access you allow of firearms, the more people will have them. You see what I mean?
Yeah, part of that is the infinite news cycle and speed with which information is disseminated. If Falwell had Twitter he’d have wielded an unfathomable amount of power.
Dude, don’t get me started on Tipper and Hillary. We had to deal with Nancy Reagan for 8 years telling people not to use drugs. Barbara Bush had the decency to leave us alone. But then Hillary and Tipper were like this god damned tag team of overbearing helicopter moms. They went after everything and the minivan driving soccer moms bought their “takes a village” nonsense hook, line and sinker.
No they're smart. They bludgeoned us for 2 years since Kavanaugh, now Maxwell is going to cause YUGE problems for them and now it's time to retool the weapon.
Yup soon as I saw that faggot David Frum of the Atlantic on there I knew you were correct. He knows this is a losing strategy, he doesn't believe it is wrong.
I know right? This letter isn't isn't going to magically de-radicalize Reddit, Twitter, and ResetEra SJWs. Good luck with that. You've made your bed and now you have to sleep in it. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to cancel them.
Leftist mobs always eventually turn on each other. Every communist revolution, once they gain power execute many on their own side who helped get them in power. Because leftism and communism ate ultimately about one thing...absolute power. They will not have anyone threatening it.
These idiots leftists created a mob, and mobs never stop until they are stopped by external forces. If the leftist mobs run out of conservatives on social media to cancel, they go after their own. Mobs in real life get done destroying conservatives, they will turn on their own who they consider not loyal or radical enough.
I’m torn on if I’d want to side with them or not on this one. I hate cancel culture but I like a good I told you so as well. I hope they are waking up to the way their culture is eating itself and how they will be on the shit end of the stick quickly. Just one bad day with the wrong bad tweet could mean certain RUIN.
Its like watching an Episcopalian argue with a baptist over the interpretation of a verse in the bible, while being an atheist. I'm all for piling on the feminists and lesbians for this one. They were the ones that wanted to "tear down the system" and are the point of the spear for all this stupid woke shit. Let them behung by their own.
It means feminists who are at least smart enough to know that destroying legal sex distinctions will take away their ability to abuse others with the cover of "equality" and "women's rights" laws.
I.E. the feminists who have figured out that a man can still outperform women by claiming to be one, thus rendering their entire striving for Female Supremacy worthless.
In the la la land of the dumber leftists and the outright sociopath lying of the less dumb leftists, they're always insisting it's Trump supporters and alt right that is repeating and retweeting "black face episodes" of now-cancelled Hollywood celebsm and that pedes are the ones doing the cancelling.
Why isn't the FBI thoroughly investigating all aspects of the claims by Tara Reade that Joe Biden forcibly raped her, and congress holding weeks of lengthy hearings with witnesses? I believe all women! At least Reade's claims are actually credible - not just hazy fog drifting through her hippocampus that no other living soul can corroborate.
It's an election year, they need to retain the sitting president and will forego immediate justice in order to preserve the ability to extend justice.
Hell everyone could probably be indicted just after the election even if Trump loses it just can't be done before as it will just be spun "TRUMP'S FBI IS WEAPONIZED AGAINST HIS OPPONENTS"
Liberals are all unaware of their hypocrisy and NIMBYism.
"We should build homeless shelters, but not in my community"
"We should provide good education to poor kids, but not in my kid's school"
"No one should have guns, but I need armed bodyguards"
"Guilty until proven innocent, unless that's me"
The same people these leftwing idiots paint as "radical right" are also the ones yelling the loudest for open debate, freedom of speech, rational thinking, and civility...
Also, notice how these leftwing idiots never said how Trump is in ANY way a threat to democracy. Lastly, we don't live in a democracy...
You'd think people would insist that any organization that fought a war to preserve slavery and employed the Ku Klux Klan as its militant wing should be stripped of its racist name so our feelings wouldn't be inflamed every time we hear that horrible, racist name, "Democrat Party'.
Like during WW1 when Germany unleashed Lenin in Russia to spread communism to topple the Tsar and eventually it starting spreading to the German front lines?
Sounds a lot like those Hollywood elitist leftists cheering on the riot terrorists destroying the shithole parts of the city, but then start crying when the mob works its way into the ritzy areas where they live. Eat a bowl of dicks you scumlicking fucks!
The people who signed this letter can go fuck themselves, they are literally reaping what they themselves sowed and are still sowing in the very letter they signed.
EDIT:
In the letter, they say:
The democratic inclusion we want can be achieved only if we speak out against the intolerant climate that has set in on all sides.
The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away.
In the letter, they also say:
The forces of illiberalism are gaining strength throughout the world and have a powerful ally in Donald Trump, who represents a real threat to democracy.
These so-called writers don't know the definitions of irony and hypocrisy if a fucking dictionary struck them in the face.
JK Rowling came out and said Dumbledore was gay, despite it never playing any part in the books or movies, just to make conservatives mad.
Now the 'progressives' puts her head on a fucking stake (proverbially) for saying "women have vaginas and make babies and that's an important distinction".
Put on the red nose, HONK THE FUCKING HORN, BITCH!
TL;DR version: "Orange Man Bad. Continue persecuting his supporters. Please stop persecuting us good white liberals, though. Also, in case we hadn't mentioned it, Orange Man Very Very Bad."
Fuck these people. Let them reap what they have sown.
The wording makes it clear that they're only upset that other liberals are getting canceled. They refer to Trump as a threat to democracy, and suggest that he's a radical right winger who you would expect this kind of censorship from. Yeah OK. This is paper thin. They're just fine with all the media's lies about Trump and conservatives and America that have been going on for decades. They're fine with conservatives being canceled. They're just mad it's happening to them. And who gives a fuck what Noam Chomsky thinks? That guy's one of the biggest charlatans alive.
"More troubling still, institutional leaders, in a spirit of panicked damage control, are delivering hasty and disproportionate punishments instead of considered reforms. [...] We are already paying the price in greater risk aversion among writers, artists, and journalists who fear for their livelihoods if they depart from the consensus, or even lack sufficient zeal in agreement."
There you go. They are concerned now that it has backfired and the cancel mob is going after their livelihoods. More proof in their own open letter:
"The free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is daily becoming more constricted," the letter explains. "While we have come to expect this on the radical right, censoriousness is also spreading more widely in our culture."
I found the line about free exchange of information and ideas funny. This from the left who INSISTS on giving everything labels and then using those labels as weapons against others in order to restrict the free flow of information and ideas.
Why let somebody have a discussion when you can just automatically label them, thus allowing the weak-minded people to respond to that groupthink dogwhistle label instead?
It's rampant. Consider the CHAZ/CHOP "citizens" begging for those outside its perimeters to send vegan food, clothes, etc., or the snot protester who sucker punched an elderly man (who was part of a group protecting a Christopher Columbus statue), then screamed like a girl for the cops when a mob of old men went after him.
They want a revolution, yet they rely on the established mechanisms of the EXISTING system to protect them.
This is the reason why I am a firm advocate of holding liberals, feminists and snowflakes to the standards they created. This is the only way things can change. Trying to claim the high moral ground does not work. This is the way of things now and unless you force them to play by their own rules nothing will ever change.
"If you kill them, they win" - Justin "black face" Trudeu. Nah, I don't think so. If we kill them, especially with their own weapons, we absolutely win.
Lmao cancel culture, the gulags of the internet. They’re learning exactly how the proletariat turn on themselves in every communist/socialist society ever.
Twitter and journalism is literally an electronic CHAZ experiment at this point.
Wouldn’t it be great if liberal Democrats woke up to how illiberal the left has become? Wouldn’t it be great if freedom of speech and freedom of thought were ideals that liberals once again fought to defend?
But who am I kidding. They have handed the whole bag to the Neomarxists of the progressive left. They will continue with their reprogramming until thoughtcrime is utterly enforced and Civil War 2.0 happens again. Fuck the Democratic Party, they are the worst thing to happen to this country, and have always been the worst, since their evil party started with Andrew Jackson.
You know what I just read? "I'm totally cool with fascism, so long as it is only used against people I disagree with." Either all of it is okay or none of it is. I thought we had this discussion in 1776, 1865, 1918, 1945, 1964, and 2001? And I thought we said the last time that we would never forget...
First they came for the racists, and you didn't speak out because hey, fuck racists.
Then they came for those who supported traditional marriage, and you didn't speak out because hey, fuck homophobes.
Next they came for those who thought all lives should matter, and you didn't speak out because hey, that's just a racist dog whistle.
Then they came for anyone who ever darkened their skin for a comedy skit, and you didn't speak out because hey, there's no video of YOU in blackface.
Next they came for those that mostly agreed with them but who still believed in free speech, and you didn't speak out because hey, no one was censoring you yet.
Then they came for those who thought maybe men shouldn't be allowed to compete in women's competitions where the biological men were guaranteed a victory, and you kinda spoke out, but pussies out at the first sign of pushback.
Now they've come for you, and you want US to speak on your behalf? Fuck you cunts! You made this bed of shit, chain yourself to it and light it on fire, we'll come to your aid after we've had a few beers, maybe. Or maybe not. You know what, nah, die screaming cunts.
"Trump is a real threat to democracy" - No, fuck you. Fuck you lefties. This is why I can't stand you people. You turn on the things that you allowed and then blame it on Trump when he's the only one who is taking a stand against the madness you've released. Liberals with their Panglossian outlook on life is the reason why we have this mess in the first place. They'll never take the blame for the things they've brought upon, the hysteria they pushed onto others with their influence. Fuck these losers. EITHER YOU OWN UP OR SHUT THE FUCK UP. Don't you dare blame Trump for the madness you've inflicted on the world.
This is why I like Dave Rubin. He always admits that his side has gone so far extreme and beyond any sort of reason. He even admitted that his liberal friends don't talk to him anymore because he talks with conservatives and supports Trump.
I'm done with anti-Trump liberals. All the mess is your making.
Trump's message criticizing cancel culture mobs going after people and tearing down statues is absolutely resonating with normal people and backfiring big time and they don't want to lose the election.
The cancel mob is a circular firing squad and eventually nobody passes the purity tests. It is starting to effect them for all their old tweets and jokes and they don't like being the target of the SJW wrath they all helped stoke.
We need to research all the extreme left and make a public list. Even if they don't lose their jobs, make their name show up as a 'radical activist' when you google their name.
This letter is amazing. These intellectuals aren’t dumb, they are students of history. The Bolsheviks did the same thing. They used the academics as useful idiots and then when the time was right they turned around and killed the academics.
Thats their entire platform right now though. This is like saying we will start making wine without grapes. And like always more virtue signaling which means we don't cancel the things I like, but its still okay to cancel the things I don't like. Selfish cunts the lot of em. And you'd have to be a fool to think anything that comes out of a liberals mouth would be followed through on.
Cancel the Cancel Culture we created or we will cancel you! Fucking Liberals - they are the idiots of the world.
They're not idiots, maybe they're about to flip it on us and make it look like Conservatives are the ones behind cancel culture. They'll probably soon say "Cancel Culture is because of Trump's America"
They probably already do. "Look what you made us do!"
They cry out while they strike you.
Damn son
They sure did...
Riots aren't violent but words can be. - A mixed race Asian American philosophy student named Stan but goes as Confucius.
Honestly, what the fuck happened to the old saying
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"
That was drilled into me. Then I discovered dirtbikes and the outdoors, and even broken bones will never truly hurt me.
Liberals are parasites that live off of the American Dream, then bitch and moan because they didnt try hard enough.
Work mothafucka, WORK! Effort! Use it!
cries in liberal
Ah, but you need a functioning brain to work and to put in effort to better your life!
Liberals are the way they are because there is literally no functioning brain available.
What happened is they started giving everyone a trophy, so no feelings would be hurt.🙄
Don’t forget what happened to Dave Chapelle with his Netflix show, Sticks & Stones... it drove the left 🤡.
No wonder theyre so pro-palestine
It's right there in the letter, from the article linked by OP:
Literally who on the left has ever been censored? If anything they push way too far with bullshit like Drag Queen Story Hour just hoping to be censored so that they can make a story out of it.
I think they put kathy griffin in time out once because she wanted to do a photo shoot holding a bloody severed Trump head
Kathy Griffin's horrible choice led to such an outcry, they made the decision to remove it due to their own embarrassment.
You are thinking Carrot Top. Man did that dude age badly. 😄
That was a man in that photo right???
"What's up Doc!"
The 90's did have some "Are video games dangerous to our children!?" moments, but that was pretty much right down the middle politically speaking, and if you look around, it's still happening, only there's just one side saying it now. Hillary championed that cause for fucks sake.
Maybe the Satanic Panic? Like when they tried to ban D&D and the whole "Halloween is Satanic and we have to stop it!" bullshit in the early 80's? But the last time I heard anyone religious say we need to ban some form of speech, they had a turban on their head, and as far as I can tell those people are just peachy with the far left.
But otherwise, I can't think of anything else significant happening in the way of censorship from the right in about forty years. Why? Because we've outgrown that nonsense. It's the biggest reason I vote Republican, not Democrat. Free speech isn't a right, it's a necessity that must be guarded.
Social engineering, which is what this is, is just another form of oppression used to control us. Censorship is just a lukewarm version of murder. When you take someone's life, you take away everything they're ever going to say. Censorship does the same, only they aren't dead yet.
Seeing them call for less censorship is fine, but you and I both saw the same thing. They're only saying that they should not be censored. They would be overjoyed to allow us to never be heard again. If we are not free to speak, then we cannot allow them that freedom to be held over us.
The libs always look over their own transgressions and place the blame on the right after a few years. Tipper Gore led the charge on censoring music.
The only thing I can remember that even comes close to conservatives pushing for censorship is that a vote came up for flag burning amendment to the Constitution. About half of the GOP voted for it. Personally, I don't even think this really counts as "censoring speech".
That whole D&D thing is utter nonsense. Bunch of nerds trying make it out like they were edgy. I went to a Christian high school in the 80s. A clique of nerds was playing D&D. No one cared. The several pastors at the school did not care. We just made fun of them for their nerdy game. They were probably butthurt over it.
Video games? I don't remember any prominent GOP politicians even talking about censoring or banning video game content. At any rate, no one playing in the 90s ever thought that games were under threat. The one or two voices that made it to the public discourse, like Jack Thompson, were no threat at all. His prominence was largely a function of media wanting stories to create fear. But Jack and a few others have been made out by later gamers to be boogeymen threatening to take away their vidya. Bullshit. This again, is later gaymers either trying to make it out that gaming is edgy or else progressive trying to smear conservatives.
Tim Pool seems to have this idea, that right wingers were censoring people, or were a force for censorship, but now its left wingers. This narrative is utter bullshit.
You'd have to go back to the 50s and the Red Scare probably to find conservatives seriously pushing to censor
peoplecommunists.I was trying to find any examples and found a Quora on this very topic.
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-such-a-thing-as-right-wing-censorship
They were mostly "of course there is" and their examples were "Trump threatened to ..... .but never went through with it"
But buried in there was this absolute gem of wisdom:
and this one
The masters of projection they are, seeing all the bad in the world they themselves are creating, and then projecting it onto the ideological enemy
There was backlash in the 80s and 90s by both libs and conserv Christians but they eventually lost. Political correctness followed. Cancel culture is uniquely Leftist. The online SJWs and feminists in particular during Obama’s presidency faced real ideological resistance. I think that age group grew up and now leftism under the guise of racism and intersectionality is being pummeled at the youth in legacy and new media. Cancel culture is how you get a Trump presidency. Because no one is feeling up to opposing the Left head on except for him! What I think is happening to JK is hilarious but she’ll never ever change into a right winger. Sad
As someone who was in college during the height of 90s PC crap, I assure you it was pretty nuts. It succeeded, too, at least in the culture. It was way overboard, insisting that “mannequin” be renamed “personnequin” for example, but considering where culture was in 1990 compared to 1995 there was a massive swing. Then they wanted us to believe it never happened, like it’s just always been this way.
They can’t even write a letter protesting their own idiots without filling it full of this garbage. The problem plagued both side of the aisle? No it fucking doesn’t. Trump is a great to democracy? No he fucking isn’t. This letter is CYA shit of the most obvious kind. They’re trying to distance from the monsters they helped to create.
This, exactly.
I'm sick of Leftists throwing around the word "Democracy" like its the holy-grail of governance.
The United States of America is not now, nor has it ever been, a "Democracy".
the letter is absolute pretentious garbage.
just when I thought some sanity still existed on the left they pull this.
They could have used this opportunity to actually make a stand against cancel culture and their own side but instead decided to fill it with slanderous lies with no real effort to fix anything
Where do you see any sanity at all? The whole thing is a shitshow of insanity, each of them trying to outdo the next by being even more hysterically insane.
Seriously, is there any leftist politician or media figure who is reasonable? I can't think of even one.
My friends (or... ex-friends now I guess) on the Left are always crowing about Facebook and Twitter censoring them. It's just that they have to do analysis and comparisons to come anywhere near an argument, because they are not being censored.
This is hurting me more than it will hurt you.
... you racist hitler nazi!
Doubtful. Boycotting is in their blood.
This is just another bullshit apology in attempt to steer the direction of "cancel culture" (what a dumb fucking phrase btw) back toward 'Rules for thee, but not for me". They want to have their cake and eat it too, just like in everything else they do. The next step down this retarded road is "If we can't control cancel culture, no one can!"
They don’t even fucking boycott, they just threaten it. Conservatives just boycott. Look at NFL ratings the year they kneeled. Look at Star Wars ticket sales as the franchise got more and more woke. Hell, I know NASCAR is trying to spin their ratings, but they should be drawing over 5 million with no competition and even they’re in the shitter.
None of us should be happy until these companies and corporations are all bankrupt. Fuck them
GET WOKE, GET FUCKED
This is America. Patriots will rise through the ashes and build over decrepit remains to create a better product.
We've ceded too much ground in the information economy to really see corporations recognize the true market potentials. These firms are hiring advertising students indoctrinated by leftism who have convinced marketing departments to cut out traditional surveying for social media analytics. As someone whose parents sit in corporate marketing committees, I guarantee Gillette put out that advertisement because their marketing department saw that women are their main customers because they control 70% of household spending and women under 40 poll left. They didn't realize you could piss off a minority (men) without moving the needle for women.
I've sat in the room while my parents teleconferenced with Verizon marketing. Some dumb college graduate with a minor in sociology will literally spend 20 minutes talking about how a gay interracial couple being used in commercials is more important than showcasing the damn wireless plan.
A lot of their growth is just coming from expanding into foreign markets.
Agreed. These companies have no idea who their customers are anymore.
While "down", they weren't as far down as tv viewership in general. The overall consensus, right or wrong, was that the kneeling controversy was a net positive for viewership.
Don't get me wrong, I blame us. Far too many of us talk a good game, but still ended up watching games, buying tickets, buying apparel, and buying from their advertisers.
I can proudly say I have no idea who was in the Superbowl last year. I'm sure I knew at the time, and I'm certain I heard who won, but that shit means no more to me than who won the world cup (? I think that's soccer). I'm sure I heard it, but it might as well have been the Timbuktu assfuckers, because I dgaf.
Part of the decline in TV viewership is people are just fed up with paying $100 a month for this shit. My parents are both staunch conservatives and I’m trying to get them weened off of cable and it’s just like fucking impossible. They understand why they need to do it, but Boomers are hooked on cable like Marion Barry was hooked on crack.
Part of it is that so much stuff is controlled by the left, that it can be almost impossible to find a non-cucked company to buy from. The left can always boycott My Pillow and still buy pillows. But good luck finding some non-storebrand razors or clothes that aren't advertising themselves as being woke AF.
There are a few brands like Black Rifle company company or My Pillow that are conservative, but for everyone of those, there are a thousand Nikes or Gillettes pandering to the woke mob.
To be fair, the right was pretty organized about this shit in the ‘80’s. Devoutly religious types.
The "Moral Majority" were truly big and loud in the 80's. But compared to cancel culture? Pfft... Jerry Falwell (founded the moral majority) had NOTHING on today's woke, "agree with us, on everything, else you're a nazi" culture.
Absolutely they moved the ball on the field, but that was tame in comparison.
I'll take "moral majority" back anyday compared to this shit.
"Now listen here, on TV you need to say Gosh darn it all to heck, none of that g-damn H word"
"IF YOU DONT THINK WE SHOULD SHOOT 8 YEAR OLDS UP WITH HORMONES AND LET THEM DANCE IN QUEER CLUBS YOU ARE LITERALLY HITLER AND I WILL HAVE YOU, YOUR SPOUSE, AND YOUR NEIGHBOR FIRED"
"Look what you made me say!"
Some of it was overblown, but they rarely got anything cancelled anyway. Things got more raunchy and crude and the media faked outrage all while pushing it all as cutting edge and groundbreaking. They pushed it on kids as being a forbidden fruit and they ate it up. What's going on today is at a whole new level and instead of pushing for traditional morality it's pushing for degeneracy and communism.
Dude... If you want a society to function there MUST be censorship!
Before you chew me out, hear me out:
Wouldn't you censor or outright ban Fifty Shades of Grey?
What about Mein Kampf?
The Communist Manifesto?
Mao's Little Red Book?
Guess what? If you won't, the left will.
The moral high ground means nothing when your enemy has the political and tactical high ground. And no moral restraints.
Edit: The more easy something is to access, the more you get of it. You make abortion easy, cheap, and socially acceptable, the more dead babies and trafficking of organs you get. The more access you allow of firearms, the more people will have them. You see what I mean?
The people downvoting you totally don't get the fight we are in. They still think the pieces of paper are going to animate and save them.
Yeah, part of that is the infinite news cycle and speed with which information is disseminated. If Falwell had Twitter he’d have wielded an unfathomable amount of power.
Wasn't al gore's wife the one who wanted to ban video games?
Dude, don’t get me started on Tipper and Hillary. We had to deal with Nancy Reagan for 8 years telling people not to use drugs. Barbara Bush had the decency to leave us alone. But then Hillary and Tipper were like this god damned tag team of overbearing helicopter moms. They went after everything and the minivan driving soccer moms bought their “takes a village” nonsense hook, line and sinker.
To be fair, the 80s ended an entire generation ago.
And that's the only type that will win this fight. The religious breed in good numbers.
Edit: Why the downvotes for pointing out a fact?
So true.
I too feel this way.
and ladys.....real ladys!
No they're smart. They bludgeoned us for 2 years since Kavanaugh, now Maxwell is going to cause YUGE problems for them and now it's time to retool the weapon.
Insightful.
The ultimate cancel is withdrawal. Simply decide to no longer consent.
Separate and associate freely within your local constituency or peer group.
Do not give commies any acknowledgement or affirmation.
Refuse the impulse to engage or rebut. Go your own way and vote in nov.
LOL!
Pathetic and not a bit surprising.
“We need this to stop... it has started impacting us and we don’t like it.”
They gave birth to it, raised it, coddled it. Now deal with it, cunts.
Can’t abort this one...
Marxist did.
They can cram bag after bag of shit down their throats for all I care. Disavow your entire ideology or GTFO.
Yup soon as I saw that faggot David Frum of the Atlantic on there I knew you were correct. He knows this is a losing strategy, he doesn't believe it is wrong.
I think they underestimated how fast their cancel crap would spread. It's too soon and they mistimed it.
This comment should be at top. I read this letter hours ago, but this insight never came to me.
NO. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW COMMIES.
I know right? This letter isn't isn't going to magically de-radicalize Reddit, Twitter, and ResetEra SJWs. Good luck with that. You've made your bed and now you have to sleep in it. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to cancel them.
Leftist mobs always eventually turn on each other. Every communist revolution, once they gain power execute many on their own side who helped get them in power. Because leftism and communism ate ultimately about one thing...absolute power. They will not have anyone threatening it.
These idiots leftists created a mob, and mobs never stop until they are stopped by external forces. If the leftist mobs run out of conservatives on social media to cancel, they go after their own. Mobs in real life get done destroying conservatives, they will turn on their own who they consider not loyal or radical enough.
I’m torn on if I’d want to side with them or not on this one. I hate cancel culture but I like a good I told you so as well. I hope they are waking up to the way their culture is eating itself and how they will be on the shit end of the stick quickly. Just one bad day with the wrong bad tweet could mean certain RUIN.
Let them suffer. They deserve everything that's coming their way.
What is terf?
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists
yes believing in biological sex makes you radical now, they got kicked off reddit too
Its like watching an Episcopalian argue with a baptist over the interpretation of a verse in the bible, while being an atheist. I'm all for piling on the feminists and lesbians for this one. They were the ones that wanted to "tear down the system" and are the point of the spear for all this stupid woke shit. Let them behung by their own.
We need a terf.win
We really don't 🤣
LOL, don't worry gender critical just moved to saidit. LGB drop the T has a backup there too I believe.
I'm fully in support of this, the seething of troomers would be glorious.
I think they hate the .win tag because they know it is pretty accurate
Um, what? What does this even mean? Is this lesbians that won’t date men who are now women?
It means feminists who are at least smart enough to know that destroying legal sex distinctions will take away their ability to abuse others with the cover of "equality" and "women's rights" laws.
jesus fuck
I.E. the feminists who have figured out that a man can still outperform women by claiming to be one, thus rendering their entire striving for Female Supremacy worthless.
I can't imagine how the feminist movement could survive without firm binary genders. The trans and non-conforming stuff really muddies the waters.
Imagine being pressured to embrace two conflicting beliefs, neither of which have any bearing in reality.
Okay. I can see why if they are involved in women’s athletics. It is amusing the radical feminists would battle the trans...
It’s also lesbians who refuse to date and have sex with “woman” who are actually men in dresses and wigs.
In the la la land of the dumber leftists and the outright sociopath lying of the less dumb leftists, they're always insisting it's Trump supporters and alt right that is repeating and retweeting "black face episodes" of now-cancelled Hollywood celebsm and that pedes are the ones doing the cancelling.
Gee, just like they did with #MeToo. Fuck them, they should be subjected to the same treatment that they dished out.
Why isn't the FBI thoroughly investigating all aspects of the claims by Tara Reade that Joe Biden forcibly raped her, and congress holding weeks of lengthy hearings with witnesses? I believe all women! At least Reade's claims are actually credible - not just hazy fog drifting through her hippocampus that no other living soul can corroborate.
We, the FBI, have thoroughly investigated ourselves and have concluded that we did nothing wrong. Correction: we did nothing.
It's an election year, they need to retain the sitting president and will forego immediate justice in order to preserve the ability to extend justice.
Hell everyone could probably be indicted just after the election even if Trump loses it just can't be done before as it will just be spun "TRUMP'S FBI IS WEAPONIZED AGAINST HIS OPPONENTS"
You know why. 😕
Nooo not my glass house
Liberals are all unaware of their hypocrisy and NIMBYism.
"We should build homeless shelters, but not in my community" "We should provide good education to poor kids, but not in my kid's school" "No one should have guns, but I need armed bodyguards" "Guilty until proven innocent, unless that's me"
It's a mental deficiency.
It's literally a mental disorder. They're incapable of grasping basic logical connections. That's a mental disorder.
Don't forget "riots are the voice of the oppressed, wait don't burn down my house".
hehehh rock go brrr
From the article, they still think “Trump is the greatest threat to our democracy” and that they expect cancel culture from the “radical right.”
Fuck these people to Hell and back. May all the hate they dished out to conservatives over the years be returned to them a thousand fold.
The same people these leftwing idiots paint as "radical right" are also the ones yelling the loudest for open debate, freedom of speech, rational thinking, and civility...
Also, notice how these leftwing idiots never said how Trump is in ANY way a threat to democracy. Lastly, we don't live in a democracy...
Let them wallow.
Oooh don't like being on the receiving end of this bullshit do you libs?
LOL, nope. Kill them with their own medicine. May they all get canceled someday.
You'd think people would insist that any organization that fought a war to preserve slavery and employed the Ku Klux Klan as its militant wing should be stripped of its racist name so our feelings wouldn't be inflamed every time we hear that horrible, racist name, "Democrat Party'.
They are so fucked.
The mob they created is coming for them.
History repeats itself
Like during WW1 when Germany unleashed Lenin in Russia to spread communism to topple the Tsar and eventually it starting spreading to the German front lines?
They transported Lenin in a sealed car like a biological weapon because of how destructive the ideology is
Sounds a lot like those Hollywood elitist leftists cheering on the riot terrorists destroying the shithole parts of the city, but then start crying when the mob works its way into the ritzy areas where they live. Eat a bowl of dicks you scumlicking fucks!
The people who signed this letter can go fuck themselves, they are literally reaping what they themselves sowed and are still sowing in the very letter they signed.
EDIT:
In the letter, they say:
In the letter, they also say:
These so-called writers don't know the definitions of irony and hypocrisy if a fucking dictionary struck them in the face.
too late, cancelled
I mean isn't this what conservatives and libertarians have been arguing for all along and they were shouting us down for thinking that?
JK Rowling came out and said Dumbledore was gay, despite it never playing any part in the books or movies, just to make conservatives mad.
Now the 'progressives' puts her head on a fucking stake (proverbially) for saying "women have vaginas and make babies and that's an important distinction".
Put on the red nose, HONK THE FUCKING HORN, BITCH!
TL;DR version: "Orange Man Bad. Continue persecuting his supporters. Please stop persecuting us good white liberals, though. Also, in case we hadn't mentioned it, Orange Man Very Very Bad."
Fuck these people. Let them reap what they have sown.
Too late libs, you created this monster, and it's far too gone to be killed
I love turning it on them just like we did with "fake news".
They fed the beast too much, now it's hungry for them.
Ironically this is going to get them canceled. Nice job, retarded libshits.
That's what I thought. Bunch of white people who are hiding something they're kot proud of but now the mobs curiosity is piqued.
Meanwhile I keep buying ammo
Fuck them all. Let them all be cancelled.
Sorry, no refunds!
Made your bed, now you’ve got to sleep in it. Liberals never think things through
Liberals never make their bed!
Never happen. He's like Bernie - he's made a career duping the young and stupid, why would he stop?
As a linguist. He's no good in anything else.
Cancel Marxism, we should not let the libs get away with saying "sorry but not sorry"
The wording makes it clear that they're only upset that other liberals are getting canceled. They refer to Trump as a threat to democracy, and suggest that he's a radical right winger who you would expect this kind of censorship from. Yeah OK. This is paper thin. They're just fine with all the media's lies about Trump and conservatives and America that have been going on for decades. They're fine with conservatives being canceled. They're just mad it's happening to them. And who gives a fuck what Noam Chomsky thinks? That guy's one of the biggest charlatans alive.
As always, the Babylon Bee said it best: "Op-Ed: Anyone Who Claims Cancel Culture Is Real Is A Bigot Who Should Lose His Job"
Just sit back fellow pedes and let the left cannibalize themselves. Let the red pills continue to flow
"More troubling still, institutional leaders, in a spirit of panicked damage control, are delivering hasty and disproportionate punishments instead of considered reforms. [...] We are already paying the price in greater risk aversion among writers, artists, and journalists who fear for their livelihoods if they depart from the consensus, or even lack sufficient zeal in agreement."
There you go. They are concerned now that it has backfired and the cancel mob is going after their livelihoods. More proof in their own open letter:
"The free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is daily becoming more constricted," the letter explains. "While we have come to expect this on the radical right, censoriousness is also spreading more widely in our culture."
I found the line about free exchange of information and ideas funny. This from the left who INSISTS on giving everything labels and then using those labels as weapons against others in order to restrict the free flow of information and ideas.
Why let somebody have a discussion when you can just automatically label them, thus allowing the weak-minded people to respond to that groupthink dogwhistle label instead?
EG Support Trump? "RACIST!"
It's rampant. Consider the CHAZ/CHOP "citizens" begging for those outside its perimeters to send vegan food, clothes, etc., or the snot protester who sucker punched an elderly man (who was part of a group protecting a Christopher Columbus statue), then screamed like a girl for the cops when a mob of old men went after him.
They want a revolution, yet they rely on the established mechanisms of the EXISTING system to protect them.
This is the reason why I am a firm advocate of holding liberals, feminists and snowflakes to the standards they created. This is the only way things can change. Trying to claim the high moral ground does not work. This is the way of things now and unless you force them to play by their own rules nothing will ever change.
"If you kill them, they win" - Justin "black face" Trudeu. Nah, I don't think so. If we kill them, especially with their own weapons, we absolutely win.
Holding people to their standards is directly from “Rules for Radicals” and should be implemented against leftists as much as possible.
Lmao cancel culture, the gulags of the internet. They’re learning exactly how the proletariat turn on themselves in every communist/socialist society ever.
Twitter and journalism is literally an electronic CHAZ experiment at this point.
Wouldn’t it be great if liberal Democrats woke up to how illiberal the left has become? Wouldn’t it be great if freedom of speech and freedom of thought were ideals that liberals once again fought to defend?
But who am I kidding. They have handed the whole bag to the Neomarxists of the progressive left. They will continue with their reprogramming until thoughtcrime is utterly enforced and Civil War 2.0 happens again. Fuck the Democratic Party, they are the worst thing to happen to this country, and have always been the worst, since their evil party started with Andrew Jackson.
No way! We are just getting started!! Let the games begin!!
You know what I just read? "I'm totally cool with fascism, so long as it is only used against people I disagree with." Either all of it is okay or none of it is. I thought we had this discussion in 1776, 1865, 1918, 1945, 1964, and 2001? And I thought we said the last time that we would never forget...
First they came for the racists, and you didn't speak out because hey, fuck racists.
Then they came for those who supported traditional marriage, and you didn't speak out because hey, fuck homophobes.
Next they came for those who thought all lives should matter, and you didn't speak out because hey, that's just a racist dog whistle.
Then they came for anyone who ever darkened their skin for a comedy skit, and you didn't speak out because hey, there's no video of YOU in blackface.
Next they came for those that mostly agreed with them but who still believed in free speech, and you didn't speak out because hey, no one was censoring you yet.
Then they came for those who thought maybe men shouldn't be allowed to compete in women's competitions where the biological men were guaranteed a victory, and you kinda spoke out, but pussies out at the first sign of pushback.
Now they've come for you, and you want US to speak on your behalf? Fuck you cunts! You made this bed of shit, chain yourself to it and light it on fire, we'll come to your aid after we've had a few beers, maybe. Or maybe not. You know what, nah, die screaming cunts.
"Trump is a real threat to democracy" - No, fuck you. Fuck you lefties. This is why I can't stand you people. You turn on the things that you allowed and then blame it on Trump when he's the only one who is taking a stand against the madness you've released. Liberals with their Panglossian outlook on life is the reason why we have this mess in the first place. They'll never take the blame for the things they've brought upon, the hysteria they pushed onto others with their influence. Fuck these losers. EITHER YOU OWN UP OR SHUT THE FUCK UP. Don't you dare blame Trump for the madness you've inflicted on the world.
This is why I like Dave Rubin. He always admits that his side has gone so far extreme and beyond any sort of reason. He even admitted that his liberal friends don't talk to him anymore because he talks with conservatives and supports Trump.
I'm done with anti-Trump liberals. All the mess is your making.
The mob is already empowered. Good luck trying to stuff that genie back into the bottle...
Wow, have we found common ground?
Would love for this country to chill out.
Ending social media and the MSM would help.
THIS.
Oh, lame. I didn't read article.
They are upset because
Trump's message criticizing cancel culture mobs going after people and tearing down statues is absolutely resonating with normal people and backfiring big time and they don't want to lose the election.
The cancel mob is a circular firing squad and eventually nobody passes the purity tests. It is starting to effect them for all their old tweets and jokes and they don't like being the target of the SJW wrath they all helped stoke.
Imagine thinking the mobs they brainwashed will quit cancel culture because you get people like J.K. “you’re gay now” Rowling to sign it.
They are afraid of the skeletons in their closets.
Chomsky looks like Bernie Sanders and Bernie Madoff's non binary love child.
No wait! We're still waiting for them to cancel Yale which is named after a mega slave trader.
We need to research all the extreme left and make a public list. Even if they don't lose their jobs, make their name show up as a 'radical activist' when you google their name.
https://www.sjwlist.com
Thanks. I saved this.
You get to live with what you created - Frankenstein monster ....
WHAT!!?? A LETTER!! OMG Guise, was it sternly worded?
There were words. But they were privileged words. So. You know.
This letter is amazing. These intellectuals aren’t dumb, they are students of history. The Bolsheviks did the same thing. They used the academics as useful idiots and then when the time was right they turned around and killed the academics.
Thats their entire platform right now though. This is like saying we will start making wine without grapes. And like always more virtue signaling which means we don't cancel the things I like, but its still okay to cancel the things I don't like. Selfish cunts the lot of em. And you'd have to be a fool to think anything that comes out of a liberals mouth would be followed through on.