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BernsWhenIPee 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you're not drawing your pistol to shoot someone in self-defense, then what you're doing is threatening violence for the purpose of intimidation and coercion. Especially if you're the one who started the verbal altercation with a group of people, and then got out of your vehicle to confront them. I can't believe anyone would condone that, unless they're a thug or some sort of extreme anarchist. I would never draw my CCW, except for the purpose of self-defense; it has nothing to do with "pacifism." Trying to win an argument isn't a valid reason to draw down on someone.

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that1guy1981 1 point ago +1 / -0

Alternately you are informing them of deadly consequences if they attack you.

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BernsWhenIPee 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you feel you are in imminent danger of bodily harm, then that's a legitimate reason... but that's a pretty difficult case to make when you're the one who proactively got out of your vehicle and confronted a group of people (as is the case with the Hispanic gentlemen who was arrested). If that group was in the middle of beating on someone, then you'd have a reason to rush to the victim's defense, but as I understand it, the guy just didn't like their political message. Political disagreement isn't a legitimate reason to brandish a firearm, and to point that out doesn't make one a "pacifist." Advocating legal and responsible gun ownership isn't pacifism.