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The real black pill is realizing it's probably still going to end even with another 4 years of Trump. He's still only one man in one office with a time limit of at most 4 more years where he can do anything. And we've got tens of millions of communists in every level of government, every level of academia, every part of entertainment, social media, tech, business, and everywhere else you can think of. They're not vanishing in a puff of smoke if and when Trump wins in November. They're a problem that we're going to actually have to deal with the hard way, or just give up ourselves, sooner or later. However it shakes up, the United States that emerges on the other side, if one even does, will not be the same United States we know right now.
4 more years of Trump doesn't solve your local 4th grade teacher telling kids it's ok to cut your dick off or engage in homosexual sex when you're 10. 4 more years of Trump doesn't solve your local assistant DA choosing not to prosecute Leftist rioters that cave someone's head in, but throws the book at someone for going to church. 4 more years of Trump doesn't remove the faceless secretary at the WIC office helping illegals scam welfare benefits or the lady behind the desk at the DMV looking the other way while an illegal gets a driver's license or voter application. 4 more years of Trump doesn't solve your county building inspection board from choosing to deny an application from the local barber or muffler repair shop to expand his shop because he was seen with a Trump bumper sticker. 4 more years of Trump doesn't do a thing about the tens of millions of insidious communists occupying millions and millions of small nameless and faceless positions in media, local and state government, schooling, all working in their own small unseen ways to harm the United States and ensure Marxism survives while your and your way of life is killed. 4 more years of Trump doesn't solve any of that. And we don't have even the beginnings of a plan on how to deal with any of that.
Bear in mind, the quote is "the blood of tyrants and patriots...". We're not getting out of this unscathed ourselves. Some of us won't make it to the other side at all.
It could be argued the bloodletting of patriots began in 2016. We have been scathed regularly by the dem. party. Seth Rich comes to mind quickly. The body count is real and will continue to rise.
Violence will be necessary. I'm worried for myself though because I'm in commiefornia, unable to get a weapon, and I'll probably be helpless in the fight. I wanna get involved somehow and not be mistaken for a cuck leftist
You have to get out. I know it's hard. I know there are jobs and families and houses and property that all need to be figured out in order to move. It costs money. It takes time. It takes hard choices and giving up some things you really want or even need. It feels like you're retreating and ceding the battlefield to the Left. But if you're already convinced that it's a hopeless battle for you in Cali anyways and you can't do any good there, get out and go someplace you can do good. Get out while you still can.
I think it's important we hold Florida and Texas. It is important. I feel bad for our Cali pedes but that state really does seem hopeless. Pedes in Cali(and NY too) should think about moving and helping to hold fort in TX/FL. If I was there I'd move for my families sake. If I was single with little attachments I'd move from Cali because that place is going to become downright dangerous.
Wouldn't even have to be violent. Czechoslovakia had a velvet divorce once they admitted to themselves that they were two peoples and better off with two countries. I hope the Left and the Right can do that here - we have even less in common than Czechs and Slovaks did at this point
probably was. theres a lot of psychological research done on the effect of the color red.
apparantly, it reduces learning capacity/focus and increases aggression.
it was after learning that i decided psychology was evil and dropped out. it is evil not because of its good uses, but because of how it can be manipulated and used like a giant manhattan project. also because of how profiteering is more important than accurate diagnosis and treatment as far as clinical too -- and the complete denial of psychoanalysis as a treatment method in favor of drugs always -- and the complete denial of the sociological theory of mental illness because it shows society has problems nobody wants to deal with.
you get your grant, do your research... but your never the one putting it into practice. god only knows what giving away that knowledge will do.
some things are better left unknown, in my opinion. like how people's minds work. Id rather not do research that could potentially be used to control or otherwise influence the minds of people. that is blood i do not want on my hands.
But did the central core ideology of either the Czechs or the Slovaks require the eradication of the other? Did one of those two sides hold as one of their most fundamental core premises that the other side must be wiped off the face of the earth? Because that is what we're dealing with here.
That seems like a good idea until you realize that alot of lefties I know are leaving cali but not admitting its lefty ideas making them leave. They just want to go implement it elsewhere... better.
Love that map, but Canada is a lot like us. Their urban areas are a lot more left-leaning than the rural areas. Problem is that Canada's population in rural areas is incredibly sparse. I do not know if Canada has a system that gives some political power to the low population areas of the nation, like the electoral system does in the US.
All those poor rural Canadians are being lumped in with the Leftists.
Yeah a lot of people don't get that just from demographics, it's game over soon. Virginia is already permanently blue. We're in the endgame and we're left with just a knight against two rooks and a queen. The game's ending in a few moves and we are not going to be the winners.
Actually they're not good at making stuff. Their good at infiltrating and brainwashing and taking it over. Notice they always ruin it and run it into the ground? They can't even maintain it well. They're only good at destroying. They promote hatred and envy which are all feelings of destruction.
Love builds. Hate destroys.
Usually they can deceive enough builders to do all the work while they take all the glory. However, lately their party has driven off even those people in favor of diversity. The Iowa Caucas was a trainwreck. It should have been an easy fraud job for them but it was a shitshow. In the last few special elections they got booted out of even blue areas. Heck Katie Hill cried into her pillow because Republican Mike Garcia overcame the fraud by a landslide amount to win it. In California. Geez.
Even they need builders, but those are usually straight men. Notice what happens when things don't go their way? They freeze up and stop answering phone calls. They can't adapt to it.
They're upending the voting system because 2018 didn't go their way in Florida and Ohio. Their only victories were by fraud in California and Wisconsin. That won them House but often by close margins. The fraud in Orange County was by mail-in and ballot harvesting. So now they believe vote by mail is their only hope to cheat to victory. They are kicking out the older staff who ran the ground game in more traditional ways in favor of the "new" ways. This is stupid, but they don't listen.
Many of the young staffers believe that social media, hashtags and mail-in-ballot will turn it around instead of the traditional early voting and busing around stuff they do. It's going to be a train wreck on their side. Don't abandon tried and true methods just because you saw some success in a couple states during mid terms. But their Marxist heads are too far up their own asses to listen.
This misses the fact that we voted for people who sold us out. This entire thread is just suggesting we have to take matters in our own hands which assumes trump did too. As a trump supporter and not a lefty infiltrator... my concern isnt if people want the swap drained its if trump will actually do it. He seems to just bring in more deep state at each turn because the Patriots get bought out so fast. Maybe its human nature and trump cant help. That begs the question of what system of government can and we can only hope the one our founding fathers implemented and envisioned is the right path and we spent MANY YEARS undoing what they did the right way.
The real answer is starting our very own McCarthyism 2.0 era. We're very late to the party quite honestly, but if we can rebirth that movement like it was supposed to be it could be toppled much sooner than any other method.
It just shows me that brown/black people are miserable failures who haven't built anything substantial, while white nations have always had high qualities of living. No wonder they're desperate to steal it away, not that they'll be able to maintain an objectively superior race's inventions.
I don’t exactly believe the multiracial part. It’s not race that’s tearing us apart, it’s multiculturalism where we all have completely different values and lifestyles. Most immigrants these days want to make our country more like the one they fled from.
You might be right about the USA. It's more likely we'll break up and some areas will have mass deportation, and some will not. The ones that don't will become like the source countries (most of that being Mexican/Central American)
I'm just pointing out, historically, it is possible to deport 40M people. There's the easier way, and the harder way. We are picking the harder way.
Big angry mobs don't just come in the liberal flavors. The entire time we've seen the communist ideology spread, we've been gaining allies left and right. Mormons, Christians, Blacks and don't forget white people who fear they are becoming the outcasts of modern society. In their desperate rampage for power they never stopped to think about building allies that won't waver. If you believe conflict is coming you should easily be able to see that conviction will drive our cause. The other side has an army of cowards who question their ideals every week it seems. If I was asked whether I preferred allies like conservatives or liberals on the battlefield, skill with a weapon is not the trait I'd look for.
I pray that some revelations of truth wake up even the biggest NPC and shakes America to its core to course correct. I hope POTUS has some aces up his sleeve to flip everything upside down.
It’s incredible how far down the shitter we have come in just the last 10 years. Hell even 5 years ago the views being pushed by the left would have been complete lunacy. Yuri Bezmenov was right.
Learn to use combat ready firearms (shotgun, AR15, AK47, etc). Probably already a bit late on this one. Only useful if we drop back to 2nd generation warfare, before then not useful at all.
Move out of cities. Move a county with a good sheriff and good folks and back them up politically, don't bring your city silliness with you
Keep a large stash of food and start growing your own. Potatoes are easy, calorie rich, and land-dense. Chickens are also an option if you have some acreage.
Homeschool your kids
that's just a start, I'm sure I'm missing something.
I wonder what I would have looked like sometimes. I've felt fundamentally different since Trump won. Before him, I was pretty much resigned to the country's slow demise and I was fighting just to give it a few more days or hours out of the dark
He genuinely did restore hope for the country to my life
You'll find out after Trump leaves office in 2024 and a dem (presumably) wins. Trump has kept this country at a plateau, but that's it. A Dem will come in and proceed to end America as we know it.
I can't help but think of all the times I've read a historian say that WWI was a mortal wound for Western Civilization. I think we're lucky to have survived another 100 years past WWI.
But we did survive the 30 years war, so I think the original people and cultures of Europe will survive somehow, even if its a rough next 100 years for us going forward.
Are you a dumbass? Biden or whoever else wins in 2020/2024 will grant amnesty to tens of millions of aliens. We will never vote red again. Without Republicans to block legislation, there's no telling what they'll do. And as the radical left becomes more normalized (it already is), this country will take a steep dive. We must do something to stop it
Trump could have just faded away, rode off his fortune and fame. Nay, he decided to put it all on the line and humbly serve his country. Just like Washington.
Get the ringleaders and the movement will die out.
Unfortunately, those in charge will have to show no mercy toward these communists. It will have to be the maximum penalty under the law for sedition and treason. If jailed they will only be pardoned to regroup and form new plots against our government.
It's sad to contemplate the maximum penalty for those in the bloom of youth -- but unless this problem is eradicated in our generation -- it will only continue to grow and spred it's errors in future generations. It would be far more kind for the Republican politicians of our times to get this problem solved than shirk our responsibility and leave the problem for our children or grandchildren.
I know these are dark times, but have faith. Get your ass off your computer and go out and TALK TO PEOPLE who you know THINK DIFFERENTLY than us.
They may not vote for Trump, but they are not excited about Biden. Focus on this election. Remind those progressive youngsters that Biden is anti weed, or that he can't remember what state he is in. He would be the oldest inaugurated President ever, by almost a decade.
Things are headed in a better direction than you think, but LONGTERM GOALS and HARDWORK PAYOFF. Like anything else in life. Teach the young generations why freedom is fun. Take em fishing or play catch with them. Teach them to fix shit. Especially Mexicans. They have so many kids, but hey they aren't actually liberal. All my mexican friends spend more time shooting guns and hanging out with their family than other folks. Only illegal alienoide cartel members would vote for anti-christian lazy snowflakes. The next generations will vote RED but Trump needs more time to show them why.
Would have? It's still too early to tell. If he doesn't win again. If we don't fix universities, media and social media. America will die. This battle isn't even close to being celebrated.
I am of the belief the left would have worn America as a husk of it's former self, but the spirt of America would have been in grave danger and\or dead
I recall Hillary talking about a shared intercontinental power grid, removal of boarders, no boarder walls. Lots of things that would have given our resources away.
She talked about how she would goto war with Russia over something as little as hacking. So it's a pretty real possibility that the influence of America may have been brought to heel.
The real black pill is realizing it's probably still going to end even with another 4 years of Trump. He's still only one man in one office with a time limit of at most 4 more years where he can do anything. And we've got tens of millions of communists in every level of government, every level of academia, every part of entertainment, social media, tech, business, and everywhere else you can think of. They're not vanishing in a puff of smoke if and when Trump wins in November. They're a problem that we're going to actually have to deal with the hard way, or just give up ourselves, sooner or later. However it shakes up, the United States that emerges on the other side, if one even does, will not be the same United States we know right now.
4 more years of Trump doesn't solve your local 4th grade teacher telling kids it's ok to cut your dick off or engage in homosexual sex when you're 10. 4 more years of Trump doesn't solve your local assistant DA choosing not to prosecute Leftist rioters that cave someone's head in, but throws the book at someone for going to church. 4 more years of Trump doesn't remove the faceless secretary at the WIC office helping illegals scam welfare benefits or the lady behind the desk at the DMV looking the other way while an illegal gets a driver's license or voter application. 4 more years of Trump doesn't solve your county building inspection board from choosing to deny an application from the local barber or muffler repair shop to expand his shop because he was seen with a Trump bumper sticker. 4 more years of Trump doesn't do a thing about the tens of millions of insidious communists occupying millions and millions of small nameless and faceless positions in media, local and state government, schooling, all working in their own small unseen ways to harm the United States and ensure Marxism survives while your and your way of life is killed. 4 more years of Trump doesn't solve any of that. And we don't have even the beginnings of a plan on how to deal with any of that.
Bear in mind, the quote is "the blood of tyrants and patriots...". We're not getting out of this unscathed ourselves. Some of us won't make it to the other side at all.
It could be argued the bloodletting of patriots began in 2016. We have been scathed regularly by the dem. party. Seth Rich comes to mind quickly. The body count is real and will continue to rise.
Their will never be another civil war (at least physically). Another country would seize the opportunity to destroy us if we did.
Violence will be necessary. I'm worried for myself though because I'm in commiefornia, unable to get a weapon, and I'll probably be helpless in the fight. I wanna get involved somehow and not be mistaken for a cuck leftist
You have to get out. I know it's hard. I know there are jobs and families and houses and property that all need to be figured out in order to move. It costs money. It takes time. It takes hard choices and giving up some things you really want or even need. It feels like you're retreating and ceding the battlefield to the Left. But if you're already convinced that it's a hopeless battle for you in Cali anyways and you can't do any good there, get out and go someplace you can do good. Get out while you still can.
I think it's important we hold Florida and Texas. It is important. I feel bad for our Cali pedes but that state really does seem hopeless. Pedes in Cali(and NY too) should think about moving and helping to hold fort in TX/FL. If I was there I'd move for my families sake. If I was single with little attachments I'd move from Cali because that place is going to become downright dangerous.
Train away. Bus away.
Wouldn't even have to be violent. Czechoslovakia had a velvet divorce once they admitted to themselves that they were two peoples and better off with two countries. I hope the Left and the Right can do that here - we have even less in common than Czechs and Slovaks did at this point
Fun Second Cold War scenario: Red US and Russia vs. Blue US and China
We're mostly alone in this world.
That was deliberate on the part of the media.
probably was. theres a lot of psychological research done on the effect of the color red.
apparantly, it reduces learning capacity/focus and increases aggression.
it was after learning that i decided psychology was evil and dropped out. it is evil not because of its good uses, but because of how it can be manipulated and used like a giant manhattan project. also because of how profiteering is more important than accurate diagnosis and treatment as far as clinical too -- and the complete denial of psychoanalysis as a treatment method in favor of drugs always -- and the complete denial of the sociological theory of mental illness because it shows society has problems nobody wants to deal with.
you get your grant, do your research... but your never the one putting it into practice. god only knows what giving away that knowledge will do.
some things are better left unknown, in my opinion. like how people's minds work. Id rather not do research that could potentially be used to control or otherwise influence the minds of people. that is blood i do not want on my hands.
Why do you think the left have been ceaselessly working to destroy US-Russia relations?
That sounds terrible
But did the central core ideology of either the Czechs or the Slovaks require the eradication of the other? Did one of those two sides hold as one of their most fundamental core premises that the other side must be wiped off the face of the earth? Because that is what we're dealing with here.
Yeah sadly it's probably going to look much more like Ukraine did in 2014
That seems like a good idea until you realize that alot of lefties I know are leaving cali but not admitting its lefty ideas making them leave. They just want to go implement it elsewhere... better.
They already figured that out
Love that map, but Canada is a lot like us. Their urban areas are a lot more left-leaning than the rural areas. Problem is that Canada's population in rural areas is incredibly sparse. I do not know if Canada has a system that gives some political power to the low population areas of the nation, like the electoral system does in the US.
All those poor rural Canadians are being lumped in with the Leftists.
Yeah a lot of people don't get that just from demographics, it's game over soon. Virginia is already permanently blue. We're in the endgame and we're left with just a knight against two rooks and a queen. The game's ending in a few moves and we are not going to be the winners.
We need to clear the board
Actually they're not good at making stuff. Their good at infiltrating and brainwashing and taking it over. Notice they always ruin it and run it into the ground? They can't even maintain it well. They're only good at destroying. They promote hatred and envy which are all feelings of destruction.
Love builds. Hate destroys.
Usually they can deceive enough builders to do all the work while they take all the glory. However, lately their party has driven off even those people in favor of diversity. The Iowa Caucas was a trainwreck. It should have been an easy fraud job for them but it was a shitshow. In the last few special elections they got booted out of even blue areas. Heck Katie Hill cried into her pillow because Republican Mike Garcia overcame the fraud by a landslide amount to win it. In California. Geez.
Even they need builders, but those are usually straight men. Notice what happens when things don't go their way? They freeze up and stop answering phone calls. They can't adapt to it.
They're upending the voting system because 2018 didn't go their way in Florida and Ohio. Their only victories were by fraud in California and Wisconsin. That won them House but often by close margins. The fraud in Orange County was by mail-in and ballot harvesting. So now they believe vote by mail is their only hope to cheat to victory. They are kicking out the older staff who ran the ground game in more traditional ways in favor of the "new" ways. This is stupid, but they don't listen.
Many of the young staffers believe that social media, hashtags and mail-in-ballot will turn it around instead of the traditional early voting and busing around stuff they do. It's going to be a train wreck on their side. Don't abandon tried and true methods just because you saw some success in a couple states during mid terms. But their Marxist heads are too far up their own asses to listen.
Katie Hill lol. Brushie Brushie
This misses the fact that we voted for people who sold us out. This entire thread is just suggesting we have to take matters in our own hands which assumes trump did too. As a trump supporter and not a lefty infiltrator... my concern isnt if people want the swap drained its if trump will actually do it. He seems to just bring in more deep state at each turn because the Patriots get bought out so fast. Maybe its human nature and trump cant help. That begs the question of what system of government can and we can only hope the one our founding fathers implemented and envisioned is the right path and we spent MANY YEARS undoing what they did the right way.
Fuck you shill. Deport this cuck.
LOL at the 7 day old account calling me a shill.
Fuck off back to reddit with your concern trolling.
You got it. Shall I put two in your chest or one in your head?
The real answer is starting our very own McCarthyism 2.0 era. We're very late to the party quite honestly, but if we can rebirth that movement like it was supposed to be it could be toppled much sooner than any other method.
Exactly. Eastern Europe survived 50 years of communism.
Western Europe won't survive 50 years of mass immigration. Historically no country has survived mass immigration.
Migration == War. Ask Martin Creveld, noted military historian.
It just shows me that brown/black people are miserable failures who haven't built anything substantial, while white nations have always had high qualities of living. No wonder they're desperate to steal it away, not that they'll be able to maintain an objectively superior race's inventions.
I don’t exactly believe the multiracial part. It’s not race that’s tearing us apart, it’s multiculturalism where we all have completely different values and lifestyles. Most immigrants these days want to make our country more like the one they fled from.
Ask Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh about that.
You might be right about the USA. It's more likely we'll break up and some areas will have mass deportation, and some will not. The ones that don't will become like the source countries (most of that being Mexican/Central American)
I'm just pointing out, historically, it is possible to deport 40M people. There's the easier way, and the harder way. We are picking the harder way.
Big angry mobs don't just come in the liberal flavors. The entire time we've seen the communist ideology spread, we've been gaining allies left and right. Mormons, Christians, Blacks and don't forget white people who fear they are becoming the outcasts of modern society. In their desperate rampage for power they never stopped to think about building allies that won't waver. If you believe conflict is coming you should easily be able to see that conviction will drive our cause. The other side has an army of cowards who question their ideals every week it seems. If I was asked whether I preferred allies like conservatives or liberals on the battlefield, skill with a weapon is not the trait I'd look for.
I pray that some revelations of truth wake up even the biggest NPC and shakes America to its core to course correct. I hope POTUS has some aces up his sleeve to flip everything upside down.
DECCLASS
It’s incredible how far down the shitter we have come in just the last 10 years. Hell even 5 years ago the views being pushed by the left would have been complete lunacy. Yuri Bezmenov was right.
If Donald Trump hadn’t swiped the 2016 election from crooked like he did we would be living in a much darker timeline.
alas, the dark times are merely delayed.
I hope all y'all are putting the extra time to good use.
What would you recommend we do in the mean time?
read up on 4th generation warfare
Learn to use combat ready firearms (shotgun, AR15, AK47, etc). Probably already a bit late on this one. Only useful if we drop back to 2nd generation warfare, before then not useful at all.
Move out of cities. Move a county with a good sheriff and good folks and back them up politically, don't bring your city silliness with you
Keep a large stash of food and start growing your own. Potatoes are easy, calorie rich, and land-dense. Chickens are also an option if you have some acreage.
Homeschool your kids
that's just a start, I'm sure I'm missing something.
I don’t want to imagine what this country would look like even after 3 1/2 years under Hillary.
I wonder what I would have looked like sometimes. I've felt fundamentally different since Trump won. Before him, I was pretty much resigned to the country's slow demise and I was fighting just to give it a few more days or hours out of the dark
He genuinely did restore hope for the country to my life
You'll find out after Trump leaves office in 2024 and a dem (presumably) wins. Trump has kept this country at a plateau, but that's it. A Dem will come in and proceed to end America as we know it.
I can't help but think of all the times I've read a historian say that WWI was a mortal wound for Western Civilization. I think we're lucky to have survived another 100 years past WWI.
But we did survive the 30 years war, so I think the original people and cultures of Europe will survive somehow, even if its a rough next 100 years for us going forward.
We need another lion in 2024. President Trump has galvanized the Right and we at least owe it to him to pick a worthwhile successor.
Are you a dumbass? Biden or whoever else wins in 2020/2024 will grant amnesty to tens of millions of aliens. We will never vote red again. Without Republicans to block legislation, there's no telling what they'll do. And as the radical left becomes more normalized (it already is), this country will take a steep dive. We must do something to stop it
Trump could have just faded away, rode off his fortune and fame. Nay, he decided to put it all on the line and humbly serve his country. Just like Washington.
I would crawl over glass to vote for Trump. I would take a bullet for Trump too.
This is a great argument. We can’t keep judging historical figures by modern standards for sins considered standard at their time.
Get the ringleaders and the movement will die out.
Unfortunately, those in charge will have to show no mercy toward these communists. It will have to be the maximum penalty under the law for sedition and treason. If jailed they will only be pardoned to regroup and form new plots against our government.
It's sad to contemplate the maximum penalty for those in the bloom of youth -- but unless this problem is eradicated in our generation -- it will only continue to grow and spred it's errors in future generations. It would be far more kind for the Republican politicians of our times to get this problem solved than shirk our responsibility and leave the problem for our children or grandchildren.
END FAKE NEWS MEDIA. REFORM OR DESTROY. MSM IS BY FAR ONE OF OUR BIGGEST IF NOT OUR BIGGEST ENEMY.
Of our lives?
This is the most important election in the history of our country.
I know these are dark times, but have faith. Get your ass off your computer and go out and TALK TO PEOPLE who you know THINK DIFFERENTLY than us.
They may not vote for Trump, but they are not excited about Biden. Focus on this election. Remind those progressive youngsters that Biden is anti weed, or that he can't remember what state he is in. He would be the oldest inaugurated President ever, by almost a decade.
Things are headed in a better direction than you think, but LONGTERM GOALS and HARDWORK PAYOFF. Like anything else in life. Teach the young generations why freedom is fun. Take em fishing or play catch with them. Teach them to fix shit. Especially Mexicans. They have so many kids, but hey they aren't actually liberal. All my mexican friends spend more time shooting guns and hanging out with their family than other folks. Only illegal alienoide cartel members would vote for anti-christian lazy snowflakes. The next generations will vote RED but Trump needs more time to show them why.
Agree, although the last one was pretty key as well.
The western world needs DJT now and Don Jr. in 2024 - I don't see another option at the moment.
If the commies EVER take power again, we're all fucked.
Many people are not taking this one seriously enough.
Deep State indictments or bust
Yes! I still believe this 💯%. After 8 years of Hussein Obama, Hillary would have been the nail in the coffin for our beloved America.
So very true!!!!
True dat!
Would have? It's still too early to tell. If he doesn't win again. If we don't fix universities, media and social media. America will die. This battle isn't even close to being celebrated.
I always include POTUS in my daily prayer. He's a great man & I'm thankful to be alive as he serves our country.
Would it really end though? Or is this just an excuse to get uppity?
I am of the belief the left would have worn America as a husk of it's former self, but the spirt of America would have been in grave danger and\or dead
I realize the consequences and I'm not giving in. Many others won't either. My point is, it won't be taken, so it will never end.
I recall Hillary talking about a shared intercontinental power grid, removal of boarders, no boarder walls. Lots of things that would have given our resources away.
She talked about how she would goto war with Russia over something as little as hacking. So it's a pretty real possibility that the influence of America may have been brought to heel.
She can run again though can't she?