Nobody is saying you can't wear a mask, nobody is saying you have to leave your house if you're afraid.
It's mind boggling that You (and those imposing Mandatory anything) can't grasp that you can't force SOMEONE ELSE to do/wear/say something to coddle your own fears. If you could - I'd be able to force the D politician in my area to wear a clown suit and refer to me by my correct Apache pronouns.
This is tyranny and being a part of the compliance squad is cuckery not bravery.
Listening to the MSM fearmongering and repeating it verbatim isn't brave.
I am not personally afraid of covid-19. I, like many others here, have lost a lot of faith in our institutions, especially the legacy media. But this does not change the fact that the whole world has been dealing with this disease for a months, and where I live the hospitals are filling up again.
Even if death counts remain the same or trends downward, this is still requiring a substantial fraction of the infected to be hospitalized or be taken out of commission for weeks. If this disease becomes endemic we will be living and dealing with that every year, on top of all the endemic diseases we’re used to, until there is a vaccine. (It’s now questionable how long antibodies will persist in our bodies— it could be as little as a couple months.)
What happens to the economy if an additional 5% (say) of the working population has to call out sick for 8 weeks every year? Nothing good. Countries who control this disease will have a competitive and comparative advantage over countries that don’t. We, of all people, should be leading the world— or at least our country— in adapting to this challenge and fighting it.
Masks look like part of the solution to me. It looks like the main benefit to wearing a mask is to reduce the chance of outward spread, i.e. from you to the world. A person working at a supermarket has no idea if any of the hundreds or thousands of customers she meets every day is sick or not. Her mask might protect her a little, but our masks will protect her a lot.
I live in Canada. Every year the temperature drops. People catch colds, and pneumonia. Every year 5000, per province, die of Alzheimers alone. Add the other reasons people die and you have enough proof nobody gives a real fuck about anything. They never shut down the economy for the AIDS pandemic - nor the Cancer problem, nor the autism problem, nor the TDS problem ;)
This is no different. If you live in Florida, the chances are high that you'll be fine because the virus cannot survive on inanimate objects in the sun. If people wash their hands after taking a piss/shit, and they generally use common sense (e.g. If you're sweating profusely, can't breathe, cough blood etc).. stay home. You're sick, everyone else will be fine.
The lunacy isn't about how to deal with this as a legitimate virus - its about whether we're dealing with a legitimate virus (and I'm talking AT LEAST as bad as the year influenza viruses), and whether the actions taken now have any result. I would be fully onboard the mask train IF I had seen even one person drop dead on the sidewalk. It didn't happen. I didn't lockdown - I was out and about every single day between March 15th and now. Not in some isolated small town - I'm in the capital. This whole thing is a political farce.
Wearing masks in the middle of the summer, at the apex of the time between Cold seasons, is Lunacy and supreme stupidity. This would be the perfect time to find that 'herd immunity' but instead we're isolating and incubating so we can make it back to Nov/Dec and they can have their desired second wave.
Herd immunity is not guaranteed. It assumes people will have antibodies that persist for many years and it is not clear that’s actually the case. We all hope it is but if not, we are blinding ourselves to a huge downside risk.
Imagine a bad cold/flu season in combination with a bad covid-19 season. That’s going to have a real negative impact on society.
Let’s be part of the solution. Let’s keep our respective countrymen safe so we can all continue to live in a functioning society.
If this had anything to do with keeping people safe, they wouldn't have sent Covid infected people back into the old age homes.
It really amazes me that suddenly the NWO and Bill Gates and the Democrats +++++ are the good guys because they're pretending to try and keep you safe from Covid. Dude - they released Covid.
Stop listening to their advice.
Take some HCQ. Get some sunlight. Live your life. Stop being afraid. MAGA. Get on with business.
This is what I don't get: why are you so aggressive and insulting? If we wear masks we're "afraid", we're cucks. Nobody here is insulting you for not wearing one...the MSM and lefties maybe, but not the guy above. Not me.
I support you not wearing a mask 100%. Why can't you support those of us who think that we may help prevent the spread to someone immune-compromised, even if it's a small chance? Why (like this graphic) are we ridiculed as pussies? Why is it so binary?
Stop listening to everything you're TOLD to do, and do the things you know you should be doing. This doesn't just apply to masks, it applies to life.
I'm not calling 'you' a cuck, and much like a woman can be acting like a bitch and not BE a bitch, some here are acting like cucks. Maybe they aren't cucks.. I'll gladly apologize if you think I was referring to you.
My full force and the hill I'm willing to die on is that I cannot be forced to wear something. I'm 100% okay with you wearing a mask. I have never once told people they can't/shouldn't wear a mask if it benefits them...
My point is and always has been, this has nothing to do with Covid and public safety and has everything to do with politics and conditioning.
If you're not willing to stand up for yourself on masks, when will do? when it's mandated you castrate yourself? Might seem 'ridiculous' they'd never ask you to do that.. but when people like Me who see it coming are gone and taken out back and shot... you'll be peer pressured to cut off your own dick and balls.
"First they came ..." is the poetic form of a prose post-war confession first made in German in 1946 by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984). It is about the cowardice of German intellectuals and certain clergy (including, by his own admission, Niemöller himself) following the Nazis' rise to power and subsequent incremental purging of their chosen targets, group after group. Many variations and adaptations in the spirit of the original have been published in the English language. It deals with themes of persecution, guilt, repentance, and responsibility.
I'm not listening to what I'm being told to do. I have an advanced degree and have weighed the facts as I see them and decided that although small, wearing a mask is something I'm willing to do. It may or may NOT help, but in this case I'm willing to make the small effort on the off-chance I may help someone. I'd never even know if I did, but that's ok with me.
I'm willing to stand up for myself for quite a bit. Saying yes to the mask doesn't mean that my hands go up in surrender and I give in everywhere else...that's silly. A mask is not even a molehill, let alone a hill to die on.
Don't wear a mask, I don't judge you in the least, but the overall attitude on TD towards those of us who do wear it is perplexing.
It's not so much that those like me who don't want to wear masks feel hatred/anger at you guys For wearing masks..
It's that those who are afraid, and wearing masks, (some) are insisting that those of us who don't just need to just be shamed a little harder into Understanding something that.. escapes us.. because we're lesser/horrible people who deny Science. (remind you of anyone named Greta?)
Its very patronizing for someone to claim 'Science!' and "Experts!" and "Gov Mandate!" etc.. but those same people never want to talk about the Stats or actual testing efforts, or issues, or failed predictions or the source of the virus or the root of government authority.. They want you to Shut up and wear a mask.
That sort of attitude is how you get punched in the face - and that's the misdirected anger you're getting from others. The people who are insisting we shut up and wear a mask are causing division worse than the fucking race bullshit.
They pretend to care about human rights and wellness but in reality would be happy if I starve so long as I don't buy my groceries without a mask.
Nobody is saying you can't wear a mask, nobody is saying you have to leave your house if you're afraid.
It's mind boggling that You (and those imposing Mandatory anything) can't grasp that you can't force SOMEONE ELSE to do/wear/say something to coddle your own fears. If you could - I'd be able to force the D politician in my area to wear a clown suit and refer to me by my correct Apache pronouns.
This is tyranny and being a part of the compliance squad is cuckery not bravery. Listening to the MSM fearmongering and repeating it verbatim isn't brave.
I am not personally afraid of covid-19. I, like many others here, have lost a lot of faith in our institutions, especially the legacy media. But this does not change the fact that the whole world has been dealing with this disease for a months, and where I live the hospitals are filling up again.
Even if death counts remain the same or trends downward, this is still requiring a substantial fraction of the infected to be hospitalized or be taken out of commission for weeks. If this disease becomes endemic we will be living and dealing with that every year, on top of all the endemic diseases we’re used to, until there is a vaccine. (It’s now questionable how long antibodies will persist in our bodies— it could be as little as a couple months.)
What happens to the economy if an additional 5% (say) of the working population has to call out sick for 8 weeks every year? Nothing good. Countries who control this disease will have a competitive and comparative advantage over countries that don’t. We, of all people, should be leading the world— or at least our country— in adapting to this challenge and fighting it.
Masks look like part of the solution to me. It looks like the main benefit to wearing a mask is to reduce the chance of outward spread, i.e. from you to the world. A person working at a supermarket has no idea if any of the hundreds or thousands of customers she meets every day is sick or not. Her mask might protect her a little, but our masks will protect her a lot.
I live in Canada. Every year the temperature drops. People catch colds, and pneumonia. Every year 5000, per province, die of Alzheimers alone. Add the other reasons people die and you have enough proof nobody gives a real fuck about anything. They never shut down the economy for the AIDS pandemic - nor the Cancer problem, nor the autism problem, nor the TDS problem ;)
This is no different. If you live in Florida, the chances are high that you'll be fine because the virus cannot survive on inanimate objects in the sun. If people wash their hands after taking a piss/shit, and they generally use common sense (e.g. If you're sweating profusely, can't breathe, cough blood etc).. stay home. You're sick, everyone else will be fine.
The lunacy isn't about how to deal with this as a legitimate virus - its about whether we're dealing with a legitimate virus (and I'm talking AT LEAST as bad as the year influenza viruses), and whether the actions taken now have any result. I would be fully onboard the mask train IF I had seen even one person drop dead on the sidewalk. It didn't happen. I didn't lockdown - I was out and about every single day between March 15th and now. Not in some isolated small town - I'm in the capital. This whole thing is a political farce.
Wearing masks in the middle of the summer, at the apex of the time between Cold seasons, is Lunacy and supreme stupidity. This would be the perfect time to find that 'herd immunity' but instead we're isolating and incubating so we can make it back to Nov/Dec and they can have their desired second wave.
Herd immunity is not guaranteed. It assumes people will have antibodies that persist for many years and it is not clear that’s actually the case. We all hope it is but if not, we are blinding ourselves to a huge downside risk.
Imagine a bad cold/flu season in combination with a bad covid-19 season. That’s going to have a real negative impact on society.
Let’s be part of the solution. Let’s keep our respective countrymen safe so we can all continue to live in a functioning society.
They want you dead man.
If this had anything to do with keeping people safe, they wouldn't have sent Covid infected people back into the old age homes.
It really amazes me that suddenly the NWO and Bill Gates and the Democrats +++++ are the good guys because they're pretending to try and keep you safe from Covid. Dude - they released Covid. Stop listening to their advice.
Take some HCQ. Get some sunlight. Live your life. Stop being afraid. MAGA. Get on with business.
This is what I don't get: why are you so aggressive and insulting? If we wear masks we're "afraid", we're cucks. Nobody here is insulting you for not wearing one...the MSM and lefties maybe, but not the guy above. Not me.
I support you not wearing a mask 100%. Why can't you support those of us who think that we may help prevent the spread to someone immune-compromised, even if it's a small chance? Why (like this graphic) are we ridiculed as pussies? Why is it so binary?
That's what the left does.
You know how to not be a cuck?
Stop listening to everything you're TOLD to do, and do the things you know you should be doing. This doesn't just apply to masks, it applies to life.
I'm not calling 'you' a cuck, and much like a woman can be acting like a bitch and not BE a bitch, some here are acting like cucks. Maybe they aren't cucks.. I'll gladly apologize if you think I was referring to you.
My full force and the hill I'm willing to die on is that I cannot be forced to wear something. I'm 100% okay with you wearing a mask. I have never once told people they can't/shouldn't wear a mask if it benefits them...
My point is and always has been, this has nothing to do with Covid and public safety and has everything to do with politics and conditioning.
If you're not willing to stand up for yourself on masks, when will do? when it's mandated you castrate yourself? Might seem 'ridiculous' they'd never ask you to do that.. but when people like Me who see it coming are gone and taken out back and shot... you'll be peer pressured to cut off your own dick and balls.
"First they came ..." is the poetic form of a prose post-war confession first made in German in 1946 by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984). It is about the cowardice of German intellectuals and certain clergy (including, by his own admission, Niemöller himself) following the Nazis' rise to power and subsequent incremental purging of their chosen targets, group after group. Many variations and adaptations in the spirit of the original have been published in the English language. It deals with themes of persecution, guilt, repentance, and responsibility.
I'm not listening to what I'm being told to do. I have an advanced degree and have weighed the facts as I see them and decided that although small, wearing a mask is something I'm willing to do. It may or may NOT help, but in this case I'm willing to make the small effort on the off-chance I may help someone. I'd never even know if I did, but that's ok with me.
I'm willing to stand up for myself for quite a bit. Saying yes to the mask doesn't mean that my hands go up in surrender and I give in everywhere else...that's silly. A mask is not even a molehill, let alone a hill to die on.
Don't wear a mask, I don't judge you in the least, but the overall attitude on TD towards those of us who do wear it is perplexing.
Thanks for your balanced response.
It's not so much that those like me who don't want to wear masks feel hatred/anger at you guys For wearing masks..
It's that those who are afraid, and wearing masks, (some) are insisting that those of us who don't just need to just be shamed a little harder into Understanding something that.. escapes us.. because we're lesser/horrible people who deny Science. (remind you of anyone named Greta?)
Its very patronizing for someone to claim 'Science!' and "Experts!" and "Gov Mandate!" etc.. but those same people never want to talk about the Stats or actual testing efforts, or issues, or failed predictions or the source of the virus or the root of government authority.. They want you to Shut up and wear a mask.
That sort of attitude is how you get punched in the face - and that's the misdirected anger you're getting from others. The people who are insisting we shut up and wear a mask are causing division worse than the fucking race bullshit.
They pretend to care about human rights and wellness but in reality would be happy if I starve so long as I don't buy my groceries without a mask.