Who controlled the media when those things were said of Germany. Who controls the media now when the same things are being said about American patriosim. Educate yourselves, be wary of those that you cannot criticize.

Part 2 > The centrist political groups would get rushed by Communist thugs, declaring the centrists as racist fascists. And the centrist groups would back down, not wanting to be called racist fascists, because all centrists really want to be thought of as Very Nice People.

LOL no.

Pede, have you studied what Weimar Politics was like, or the major Communist Party Thug uprisings?

Part of the problem with Weimar politics is that far from caving in, even the "centrist political groups" had paramilitaries, and the Weimar Republic had an unhealthy fetish for criminalizing innocent ownership of firearms and summarily executing people, falling back on old Imperial form because a culture where the military was a law unto itself and police enforced law by terror didn't really know a better way.

Which is why communist putsch attempts were without exception utterly quashed, usually by the army, but also by Freikorps paramilitaries or the police. Indeed, the Commie Street Thug violence that we are familiar with in the late Weimar era as the Commie Party's fighters and the Nazis (among others) beat each other up was an adaptation to FAILURE. The failure of previous, large scale military-style uprisings by the Commies like the Spartakist Putsch in Berlin, the Bavarian Soviet Republic, and the Ruhr Red Army, meaning that the Commie Party shifted gears.

Only one group fought back. Only one group stood against the Communists and the filth unapologetically and unafraid. Only one group rejected the Internationalist propaganda and stated clearly Germany would stand alone and free.

Pede, please, you're embarrassing yourself.

This is not only wrong, it is LAUGHABLY wrong.

And to get kind of a prelude to this, I'd suggest getting Stephen P. Halbrook's "Gun Control in the Third Reich: Disarming the Jews and "Enemies of the State."" While it's mostly focused on the NatSoc dictatorship and their gun grabbing ways, it includes a lengthy prelude on Law and Order Weimar Style, such as the increasingly despotic criminalization of gun ownership, the rule of the police, and Communist terrorism in all its increasingly ineffective "glory."

There are a couple takeaways from this: firstly being that Commie Suckers have proven remarkably consistent across time and space. The following passages should remind you of Marxist basement revolutionaries here like Antifa (not coincidentally tracing its roots and iconography back to here) and BLM.

Secondly: it's that by the middle of the Weimar Era, the Commies and their party had degraded to something near the threat level of Saturday Mornign Cartoon Villains, repeatedly trying to seize power only to get stomped on almost any time they showed their faces. Indeed, it was ironically when the Nazis began their rise to power that the KPD started to regain SOME of its former traction (which shows that contrary to the KPD feeding off of the spinelessness of the centralist parties, it fed off of the Great Depression and the totalitarian renaissance the Nazis enjoyed).

The German Communists pointed to Mussolini’s new dictatorship and to the “German fascists” as reasons to organize and arm the “Proletarian Hundreds.”38 On October 24–25, 1923, with prodding from Stalin’s Comintern, the Reds launched the Hamburg Uprising, attacking police stations and seizing arms. As revealed in an account by its leader, twenty-five-year-old student Hans Kippenberger, some 1,300 insurgents with only eighty poorly maintained firearms, mostly revolvers, faced some 5,000 policemen armed with rifles, pistols, and machine guns.

The Communists seized some police stations and obtained more arms. Someinsurgents lacked minimal firearm training—they captured three submachineguns but had to obtain instruction from the police prisoners on how to use them! Barricades were erected, and street fighting ensued, but government forces predictably smashed the insurgency.

Without regard to whether the Communists really represented the working class and would have established a tyranny had they seized power, as they did in Russia, this episode provides insight into why the proletariat did not resist Hitler a decade later. The working class had few firearms and no tradition of keeping and using them (Halbrook, Pg. 8-9).

So rather than being too feckless in the face of Communist aggression, the Weimar Government and its semi-rogue military and police (to say nothing of the Militias) were if anything too repressive and oppressive of the average, law abiding citizen. Which is one reason why the transition was so swift: the Nazis had already infiltrated the police and co-opted the Army, so they simply took over the Republic's extensive firearm registrations. Which is one reason why even as the Communists gained strength between 1929 and Hitler's squashing them with the Reichstag Fire Decree a few years later, they were never able to mount another attempt.

But it was not until I read the diary of General Patton that it really hit hard: everything we were told in schools about World War 2 was a lie. And the general even states how the lie started and by WHOM.

One week later that general was dead.

Citation needed mate.

Especially since the idea that it was a "lie" that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941 is...dubious.

Also, the people who generally like quoting Patton in order to defend the Nazis tend to overlook how he had no love for the National Socialists or Hitler.

I'm not sure what sources you're reading, but as a history nerd who has studied and even wargamed here, something's off.

When I learned of the Spartacist Uprising of Berlin and started really reading the old histories of Weimar I started asking myself: why wasn't someone trying to stop the slide into degeneracy?

Plenty of people and groups WERE. What people keep ignoring is that Germany's a big damn place and people who held sway in one area (like heavily Social Dem, Decadent Berlin) weren't those that held sway in others (such as Conservative Bavaria or Reactionary-turned-Fascist Saxony).

You had newspaper ads for nightclubs promoting how young and fresh the boys were. Ads for sexual institutes for you to discover your real gender identity.

So somebody's watched the Weimar era ads, but hasn't studied the pre-WWI Imperial ones yet?

I hate to tell you this, but this kind of nonsense was present- even prevalent- before Weimar. It just became much more obvious. But just like the abusive quack Sigmund Freud grew in prestige after WWI but was a child of pre-war Imperial Vienna, scumbags like Karl Marx, Theo Adorno, and the like were largely the children of Biedermeyer Autocratic Socialism formed by Metternich and refined by Bismarck.

What changed wasn't the decadence or rot or assorted depraved practices, it was part of the environment. Namely the other side of the Central European culture: Autocracy. Metternich may have been a self-proclaimed socialist he was also a champion of the Divine Right of Kings and the man who created the prototype of the modern day police state. The Northern Germans refined this more and it was ultimately taken up to breaking points by the military junta of the German OHL (Army High Command) under Paul von Hindenburg and Erich Ludendroff, which was called "War Socialism"- Kriegsocializmus. Which basically took discipline, regimentation, and government by terror to extremes while preaching about the glories of war, the need for unity against "International Finance", sacrifice in the name of the Race and the Kaiser, and obedience to the "wise" and "beneficent" central planners (and if this sounds familiar, it should because these were one of the major inspirations for both the Bolsheviks- whom they had sent into Russia like a Plague as Churchill compared- and the Fascists).

That all broke down around 1918 when the glorious military could no longer stand up in a fight and a bunch of troops- told to die gloriously for the Vaterland in a hopeless, Gottendamerung-style end game lik the High Seas Fleet- decided that if they were going to get shot at they might as well take on the weakened dictatorship they might actually beat. And bam, suddenly Central Europe had entirely too much socialism and decadence, but not enough Autocracy, Militarism, or Terror to keep it marching to the orders of the dudes.

Frankly as someone who's studied WWI, I think that was a better trade for the world, but it still had a host of problems like we're seeing today. And the Germans didn't just discard the repugnant methods or values of the past, but also others such as restraint, self-discipline, respect for tradition, and so on. Which is why you saw such widespread breakdowns...

.... and this is BEFORE we factor in the Bolsheviks at the gates trying to start another world war and a bunch of angry, idealistic veterans from the front or reservists coming together and claiming they were robbed.

Which is why it's not surprising that the first attempted coup against the new republic came from the Commies just days after the republic was declared, and why it was only put down by using some of the old imperialist thugs.

Articles about how the German national identity was savage, barbaric. Articles about German history being one of racist supremacy.

Indeed, and it's no surprise you hear this being familiar.

But to play devil's advocate, it's worth talking a bit about context. Starting with the fact that Germany is not the United States of America. It did not achieve independence based on the marriage of semi-common cultures and grand political ideals that sometimes came up short but which were always worth something. Germany had been united under the sword by autocratic socialists.

Keep in mind that the Germans reading or saying this today had lived much or all their lives under dudes like this;

http://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=755

They had experienced things like the Voigt Affair prior to the war, where a conman terrorized and robbed an entire village at gunpoint(s) by simply stealing a German Officer's uniform, hijacking a German army unit, and counting upon the terror and discipline towards the authorities in German culture at the time to get away wit hit. And that when he was caught, he was given a slap on the wrist and people like Kaiser Wilhelm II and other military leaders viewed it as amusing. (And keep in mind: he was convicted primarily of impersonating an officer, so the implication was that this kind of nonsense was ENTIRELY appropriate for an actual German Officer).

They had experienced attempts to do things like rein in the army and secret police after things like the Herero Genocide, only for the Reichstag to be told to go Eff itself by the Kaiser.

And above all, they had experienced 'Kriegsocializmus" during WWI, where Allied blockade, wartime losses, man's inhumanity to man, and the first modern totalitarian state all combined to make sheer hell for people both inside Germany and especially outside it.

https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/operation_alberich

http://pygmywars.com/history/latvia/historylatvia1919.pdf

So like a lot of the more naive leftist radicals, this kind of stuff was based at least partially on genuine concerns or issues (whether as the actual focus of the complaints or just as another rhetorical tool to call for revolution). And unfortunately the nature of the German government up to this point and culture meant that not only was the shattering defeat of WWI likely to cause a snap-back reaction, but that it wouldn't get rid of many of the worst problems, such as collectivist thinking, interests in socialist politics and philosophy, or so on.

That meant that it was never likely that Germany would settle on a happy medium or step away from the abyss, instead wavering between racial extremes. Choose your flavor of socialism: decadent pacifist welfare junkie Social Dems, totalitarian, militarist, We Are the World Commies, or totalitarian militarist Fascists.

Articles on why Germany must join the internationalist League of Nations and integrate its economy into world finance.

Keep in mind what the alternative had been up to this point: socialist autarky and a little Looter Economy. Which had been particularly evident in WWI, as Germany and its allies literally bled occupied territories like Romania, Latvia, and Belgium dry (of agricultural produce, materials, and even human slaves) to try and keep the central government afloat. And even then it didn't work.

And further keep in mind that up to this point, Germany had tried to fund the war by running the printing presses and looting, kinda like Chavez in Memezuela only the German Empire defined its "class enemies" as mostly foreign civilians and stole their stuff.

Until they suddenly couldn't any more. Which led the first Republican governments to respond to that and losing WWI by...deciding to commit economic seppuku by ramping up the printing of Marks and trying to shaft their victims of reparation payments. Which just led the Allies to occupy parts of Western Germany and worsened it.

Ironically things only lessened by the appointing of a quasi-monarchist conservative, Gustav Stresemann, to effectively head the government, leading him to switch.

Which'll bring me to my next post.