posted ago by Zelnik
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I just finished a conversation with my boss' boss, telling me (as nice as he can) to make all my facebook posts both future and past as hidden as possible.
When I asked why, he made it clear. People are having their lives ruined by posting a maga hat and he was looking out for my best interests.
I work for a fortune 500 company, multi-national and my position is pretty damned important (only about 10 people are in my position in a huge multi-national company) and my boss' boss is warning me against having my whole life destroyed.
I can't tell if I should be mad, sad, or terrified.
I just finished a conversation with my boss' boss, telling me (as nice as he can) to make all my facebook posts both future and past as hidden as possible.
When I asked why, he made it clear. People are having their lives ruined by posting a maga hat and he was looking out for my best interests.
I work for a fortune 500 company, multi-national and my position is pretty damned important (only about 10 people are in my position in a huge multi-national company) and my boss' boss is warning me against having my whole life destroyed.
I can't tell if I should be mad, sad, or terrified.
You should forward to legal counsel and start building your case for when they wrongfully terminate your employment.
And if it is in an "at will" employment state, they legally need no reason.
Oh, so in an at-willl state can I fire someone for being gay?
If they're smart they won't give you a reason for termination. "It's not working out, see ya."
That's why the idea of documenting this call is a really good idea... so you can lay the papertrail that you aren't being fired because "it isn't working out."
How would this person document it?
"Dear so & so,
I just wanted to follow up on our conversation yesterday in which you suggested that I delete or hide my Facebook posts because of MAGA support which may lead to my life being ruined, so that I understood you clearly. Would you suggest that I do anything anything else to protect myself?"
If there's any response in writing that's protection I suppose.
Yes in email
The way you respond to an email like that is with a phone call. If his boss responds to that in writing, he's stupid as fuck.
Even if he doesn't respond. The cover your ass context is better than Susan's email.
Make sure you do it "by the book"
I'd log these calls as well. Time, date, length, person who called. summary of the conversation. If these were done on a phone where you can capture the date, time, and length of call...capture that info permanently. It proves the call was made.
Logs are pretty good.
Not sure why you guys are downvoting Benadick, because the point he makes of "Not just in dollars" is true.
Whenever someone goes through with a suit against their company for wrongful dismissal, one of the most common outcomes--even if they win--is that they're blacklisted by literally everyone else who might hire them.
Whether rightfully or wrongfully, they are seen as toxic.
Yup. Mass lay-off events are all the cover they need.
Yeah most places will just start treating you like shit so you quit on your own.
"We're eliminating the position."
Political affiliation is a protected class in California. I have a feeling that in practice it's only applied for one side though.
Yeah but how do you prove it was for being conservative if it's not documented.
It is now. It looks like California is actively stripping protections so that those who practice wrong think can be punished.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/california-legislature-votes-to-remove-anti-discrimination-language-from-state-constitution
I thought that was the law in general, and was going to mention that, but I am in CA and didn't realize it was CA in particular, and not the entire country. Thx for clarifying, as I have run across this before on here, and wondered why political affiliation was not applying.
If I remember correctly, Washington State and DC also, but in general not the case.
A Trans-Biden supporter
Heh, if I had any of these leftist loony toons working for me, I'd fire 'em. Don't want them working for me. Don't want to work for them. Call it a wall, if you will. ;)
You definitely don't want them working for you. If you are a small/medium sized business they'll end up destroying everything and cost you, and all the good employees their livelihoods.
That little tidbit works both ways. "Welcome to the interview, firstly what are your views on Trump?" Don't like what they say, warn them about not letting the door hit their libtarded ass on the way out.
For no reason. Not for any reason.
No, that is protected federally. Your political views are not.
Technically, you can. You just don’t say the real reason. Just use random excuses.
And they'd be stupid to even provide one in those states.
Every state is at will and it doesn’t mean what you think it means.
Montana is the only exception.
He won't be fired. That's not how this works. If they had the power to outright fire him, they would have. Instead, they create a hostile work environment with the goal of getting him to resign, or to confess. If he confesses to something, then that might be taken to a firing authority. See the survival guide
"At will" employment laws only refer to firing. Just because your employer as the right to fire you, that doesn't relieve them of their other obligations before they do so. The employer could get fucked if, for example, they create a hostile work environment, or if they fail to prevent other employees from doing so.
If things start heading down that direction, he'll want to talk to a lawyer about the best ways to document and report
That guy sounds awesome, and I tip my hat to you for representing yourself and taking the bar..big brain time.
I'm a firm believer that most companies will not fire you unless they really have too to avoid lawsuits and or paying out unemployment benefits for termination.
If the person quits instead, nothing has to be paid out.
It's not that simple. Consult an employment attorney who knows how to MAGA.
It is in CA.
Oh - but don't worry - they don't give any fucks about the law there.
Sure they do - it depends if the criminal is an approved class member.
Painting graffitti in the street is celebrated, but painting over graffitti in the street is a crime. Tearing down statues of white people is great, putting up a paper sign that says its ok to be white is a crime. And so on.
It was put in place to protect people who were Democrats.
Now the tables have turned and they are wanting to get rid of the law because more republicans are filing discrimination lawsuits.
Oh the irony.
This will be the next big civil rights issue. Believe me.
Think for a second.
Its good that private companies are not forced to keep insane people on staff.
Your political affiliation should not be protected.
If I hire a person and they turn out to be an insane SJW problem, we need the ability to part ways with them.
Yes this cuts both ways.
And yes there needs to be FEWER protected classes not more.
Moral of the story: Work for a small/medium sized business owned by a conservative. Most business owners are conservatives.
Working for the government or a massive Fortune 500 company is a big risk if you're a conservative... even moreso if you're white, male and straight. Good luck ever getting promoted.
Conservative business owners are the best people to work for tbh.
They really dont care what your beliefs are as long as you are producing.
I could argue politics all day, but if i'm working tickets and exceeding my quotas, they dont give a flying fuck.
I'd rather work for a place that I can be free to say what I want to say about stuff, than work for a place that I have to watch what I say and what I do at every second.
That’s not true at all. I’m all of the above and I have worked at a Fortune 500 company for well over a decade and I’ve been promoted 3 times. Hard work pays. Yeah it leans left but I keep my politics to myself. People here have the same kind of perception of corporate America as the left wing has of rich people. I’m not saying shady shit Like people who don’t deserve promotions get promoted doesn’t happen, it certainly does, and there is definitely virtue signaling fuckery. I will state it has had a minimal impact on myself and my similar peers other than being just an annoyance.
Edit
I do recommend you delete or at least making your social media private though. Don’t ever friend coworkers. Even if you think you can trust them you can’t. Social media is rotten garbage anyway and not worth it.
Ding ding ding!
And the smaller they are, the closer you are to accessing management if there's an issue, and the more important to them you are as an employee because you do a larger percentage of the total workload. All around more respect for people because they are seen as people, not worker bee #1984.
i.e. Firing 1 employee in a corporation of 2000 means 0.05% of workload loss or spread across the other 1999, increasing pressure to a "whopping" 0.050025% of the workload for each employee. Firing 1 employee in a small business of 10 means 10% of workload loss or spread across the remaining 9, increasing pressure to 11.11% of the total workload when they already did a big chunk of it.
That's a much bigger adjustment for the small company to deal with, so they are less willing to fire people as easily in general, let alone over politics, since they have fewer resources to spare on unemployment (or a lawsuit). That also means they are much more likely to put in their due diligence before & during hiring to ensure efficiency & to hire people who are less likely to be problematic, resulting in an overall better work environment in terms of behavior, fairness, and overall jive.
That might mean more stress when you fuck up or another employee does, since you/they will stick out more, but that also means it is more likely to be resolved quickly instead of dragging on for months or years & less overall stress dealing with fuck-ups and/or unfairly taking on their associated workload.
The ideal would be for the company to prove that someone's ideology is interfering with their work. If a rabid SJW just can't stop calling all their co-workers a Nazi, that would definitely classify.
But we know the law won't do that, it will just pushing "equally" (which really just means the ideology that is offensive for the day, such as liking Trump)
Playing Devil's advocate, what it that person is good at their job but outside of that is just kind of an idiot who's in a facebook post wearing a Che Guevara shirt. Keeps to himself at work and is otherwise a good employee. Should he be fired?
This retard shouldn't be fired nor should someone who supports the legitimate elected president. Rabid extremists are a different story but innocent people with their own beliefs, even misguided ones should be protected.
100% in agreement. If that guy was a total azzhat outside of work, but in work is a good employee, his job should NOT be in danger.
I agree with this.
And I work with some rabid lefties.
Outside of work, I avoid them. At work, they are courteous to everyone and are always happy to help with work stuff. Just dont talk politics.
No offense but you need to wake the fuck up. Twitter mobs and hysteria are in the driver's seat for companies who have not just a global reach but also those who only span a region in the US. I work for a small organization that has influence across just a few states. Our CEO talks diversity and virtue signals his "african american" kids in internal emails. These are people who know exactly where the popular opinions of the day blow and will harness it to cast their sails and fuck everyone else. If you have worked for a large or even small company that has a board then you know the type of personality that is attracted to the C-suite. They are phony and will throw anyone under the bus for their own edification.
It isn't that it's ok. It's that it isn't illegal.
But what about the right to free speech and association? I agree with you.. if you’re talking on the job then that’s different. But we’re talking about in your own private time, would you seriously fire someone for something that’s not illegal that they are doing in their own private time? For a Facebook post done off work hours with a Biden shirt? We need to get back to the bill of rights, these are rights given by GOD and no one can take them away, not the government and not a corporate oligarchy. And they don’t just magically appear in a courtroom. These are God given rights that no one can take away (or at least that’s how it is supposed to be, but that’s changed recently)
I would fire someone for being pro BLM or pro Antifa, I would not say that is the reason.
At will means at will.
If they were pro Biden I would just realize I made a bad hire and look to replace them because they are retarded.
If I work at a company and that owner hates Trump, I would 100% back his right to fire my ass.
Making political class a protected class is a BAD idea, along with all the other protected classes.
Yep. I have another comment on this thread. Shit rolls downhill but the cock sucking goes up. Board type companies are simply cashing in on the thought du jour regardless of where facts over feelings lay. This is in the leadership who only care about their perception because that is the name of the game. Idealists who think that I made the company x profitable or efficient get thrown to the wolves at the drop of a hat. These days usually a MAGA hat.
Just to clear, you own, based, legal counsel... Sure you know this, but for everyone else, never trust corporate HR, a pool attorney or some prepaid legal schmuck
You should be grateful, along with any other emotions you feel. Your boss' boss obviously values you as an employee and wants you to succeed with8n the company.
THIS IS THE ONE YOU SHOULD LISTEN TOO!
Agree.
Also, it might not be a bad idea to see if HR allows you to self identify. If they do, you can always self identify as gay, and then use that against them if the shit hits the fan. Claim your wife is pre-op trans. If your company is so "woke" that they'd fire you for wearing a MAGA hat on facebook, they'll have to accept you and your wife for what you claim to be. BINGO! you're now a protected class.
While true, the fact that he is even in this situation to begin with is insane.
Yes, if I could rewrite my post I'd mention that it's ridiculous that this is happening, but don't forget to see the one good part which is that his boss' boss cares.
Yeah. Op, the man is looking out for you.
But you should know this by now anyway. You should feel gratitude and comfort. Wtf.
I didn't mean to imply that he should only feel thankful... instead that he shouldn't forget to feel thankful among all the other feelings he has.
oh no, i didn't criticize you at all, by "you should know... " etc etc, I meant the OP should know about cancel culture and such. you're good!
spez: i tagged onto your comment because you're spot on whereas others saying the OP should lawyer up and such are imo out in left field...
https://www.shift8web.ca/2018/03/delete-facebook-how-to-poison-obfuscate-and-purge-your-facebook-data-before-deleting-your-account/#0
But not enough to protect you from the pitchforks
Pitchforks can come for him too
Delete your LinkedIn completely. That shit really uninvented itself. Used to be find a job now it’s find where maga hat man works
Perfection
I guess if you like applying for jobs versus having recruiters reach out.
There might be better things out there that I'm not aware of, but I get 10 to 20 recruiter emails per week through LinkedIn. Most are 3rd party recruiters that I ignore, but I usually get about 1 or 2 internal recruiter emails per week. Since I'm fairly picky, I'd say about an average of 2 per month are potential useful contacts.
Usually what I do is I leave my profile up regardless of whether I'm looking or not and mostly just ignore it when I'm not looking. By ignore it, I usually don't respond to anything, and just click accept on most invites. When I'm back on the job-market:
About 90% of the time, I can turn this into a recruiter-chat, and then a phone-interview. Turning that into an on-site interview usually depends on performance.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's worth pointing out it can be done. It's possible it may be somewhat industry specific (I'm a programmer a.k.a. Software Developer) or I might have been somewhat "lucky" and happened to use the platform in the right ways in order to be far more successful than most.
edit: I've never applied for jobs through LinkedIn, that component might be useless.
Seriously, get off your ass and fucking network. Guarantee you'll find a better job this way.
A former army colonel told me that this world is built on relationships. If one guy has an associate's degree but is chummy with the CEO, and another guy has a master's, 99% of the time the guy chummy with the CEO is chosen.
Wear your MAGA hat and you won't be hired by this asshole company. It has its benefits.
Social media is counterproductive, but in certain sectors keeping a profile on Facebook/LinkedIn is expected or a requirement.
Keep your social media accounts but make them grey rock/zombie. Think of them as placeholders so that no one runs a spoof account of you and uses that as leverage.
That's an interesting point. I get a massive amount of recruiter contacts through LinkedIn and probably wouldn't delete mp profile personally unless I had serious concerns. A few other things you can probably do instead to protect yourself:
The media has been successful in programming many in this country that Trump supporters are akin to jew massacring Nazi's.
We see them as delusional political opponents. They see us as dangerous monsters that must be purged. So yes, they will destroy your life and sleep like a baby.
What left doesn't seem to understand is how this will backfire on them.
Woe unto to those that create men with nothing to lose.
and to think that if Facebook was a thing in Nazi Germany you'd want to hide the fact that you were Jewish...
Hmmmmmm
It really mirrors that perfectly, doesn't it? Down to the book burning and all
From those rascally National Socialists
The pendulum always swings back.
These clowns are quick to forget that reason replaced violence in societal discourse. Abandoning the former will reinstate the latter.
It always swings back just as hard. I hear there are free rides coming in the future for the commies.
Helis are going to need to be flying 24/7 for years.
I feel that our pendulum had already swung back with the election of President Trump.
What we are witnessing is the left swinging back at us now, and with full force.
I truly fear what will happen in 2024.
That's a good point, but I don't think it's necessarily what's happening
I think Trump was the pendulum swinging back from 8 years of Obama. This is pretty normal. The parties seem to take turns after each president
There was Bush H, Clinton, George W, Obama, Trump. Voters vote in one party then after awhile swing back and vote the other party in
But the left went mad this time. Let's remember that Trump is really quite moderate, although they think he's far right. He would have had the same platform as Clinton 30 years ago
They have countered him being 'far right' by going far left. But this is too far for most Americans. So while the pendulum should have already started shifting back to a Democrat win in 2024, maybe it will end up with another Republican or even truly right wing president in 2024
At a minimum it will hopefully mean reelection this year
We're about to change the history of the world with this next election.
I can't tell if I should be mad, sad, or terrified.
D: None of the above.
The bosses boss gave you a career tip. GTF off all of it NOW.
And find a new job that won't give you subtle hints that you'll be fired for supporting your president.
The boss is a silent majority. Says nothing and shows up at the polls. Trying to help this guy keep his job. If he where a SJW he wouldn’t have gotten a warning.
Bosses being silent instead of defending the people working for them when they haven't done anything wrong is how we got here in the first place.
Associates of Ghislaine Maxwell and Hillary Clinton being on the board of directors is why bosses and their employees in Fortune 500s learn to keep their opinions to themselves if they have a family depending on that paycheck.
Who still has a facebook in 2020? Jesus Christ
People with cats?
Can confirm. Have cat, also on facebook. Rats....
Delete that shit. Only social media viable is anonymous social media.
That’s an excellent point.
Seriously, if you want less opinions and more clout (if you're an attention whore) just use instagram. I only use instagram to post pics of my chiseled body and cool things I do. I barely follow any people and if they make a political post, I just silence them.
Boomers really.
Finally, never having social media has paid off.
He really, really doesn't want to fire you but will do so the moment any heat is on.
Hope you followed his advice--if you like your job and don't want to become a meaningless martyr to impress a bunch of strangers on the internet
Imagine a CEO saying this to some retarded BLM dipshit.
They would scream bloody murder and threaten a mob attack.
But support your president and no one defends you as you are thrown into the trash.
Doesnt matter. Cash > all. Play the game. Homeless people influence nothing.
You should be proud and then get the fuck off facecrock
I’m in my 30s and have never used my real name online for anything non-financial. Is that weird now?
Prudent
I dont inderstand why anyone, left or right, would put themselves online publically with real name, city, work and all.
I’ve said that to friends and family for several years- If someone came to your door with a clipboard asking all kinds of questions such as “name, dob, town, religion, political affiliation, marital status, where did you go to school, where do you work, family names, friends, friends of friends, coworkers, friends of coworkers, hobbies, interests, pets, where do you travel, what restaurants and shops do you go to, where’s your gym? Check in with your doctor! and so on and oh can we have all your photos and please identify everyone in the photos?”
Would you do that? Because that’s what FB is asking and you willingly give it to them and they’ll pester you until you give it all up. And they’ll keep all your data...forever.
But they still keep doing it.
I got rid of everything years ago. Life is better
You literally described how I use to do investigations for companies where the person didn't pay off the account balance. It is unbelievable what information people would give you.
Here’s an example I’ve read about and actually tried successfully. If someone is talking on their phone-hand them something. Anything- they’ll take it and most likely do something with it. Such as a piece of paper telling them to go do a task. They won’t ask questions or wave you off to wait, they’ll just take it. It could be a knife, sack of dog shit. Doesn’t matter. People are strange! And stupid.
Just make everything private.
No one can search for my profile unless they are a friend of a friend of mine.
You type in my name, and nothing comes up.
Spez: Well my profile doesnt come up, but a bunch of Boomer profiles do.
Just make everything private.
Private to other users but twatter's, fb's etc 100,000s of soy cunts who work for those social media companies can see it.
No that's wise
When I was growing up, and in the early days of the internet that was normal, and understood to be the right way to interact in the internet for your personal privacy and security. Then Facebook came along, did a bait-and-switch, and suddenly nobody seemed to care about privacy anymore.
Wake up call for all of us. Gird yer loins. Try to take the power away from the Kancel Kulture Kult. Be self employed if possible and certainly self reliant.
Self employed right here and honestly the cancel cult coming for me would only give me more business.
Get off social media and you are free
I would suggest to try and get your spouse off social media all together.
Cant tell you how many fights I've had with my wife over dumb shit she saw on Facebook. Mostly shit about her friends going to all these exotic locations and taking all these nice photos.
I've had to bring her back to reality and explain that 90% of what people post on Facebook is all fabrication. Sure they are having fun now, but during the rest of the year these people are miserable.
I know for a fact that most of her friends work paycheck to paycheck. So that one trip to the Bahamas was a result of many years of saving money. I can assure you that they didn't just go on a whim.
Your post kind of comes across like you never go on a holiday. If true, take your wife on a holiday if you haven’t been for a long time/ever and could reasonably afford it. If it’s just your wife gets fear of missing out and wants to holiday all the time then never mind
Many travel companies essentially offer “loans” type things to pay for holidays. So if they aren’t saving up for a trip away and living paycheque to paycheque, I’d guess that’s what they’re doing
last year we've been to Florida and Vietnam. the year before that we went to California and Hawaii.
The problem is not traveling. The problem is her seeing her friends doing stuff and making her jealous.
Ok yeah definitely hold firm then friend!
Your first point is ridiculous. It's been shown that people who use Facebook are more depressed because all you see are snapshots of people's lives. And you know nothing about this guy. Maybe he and his wife go out every weekend to the country and enjoy the fresh air rather than staying crammed in their house for a year just to afford a dream week-long vacation to the Bahamas.
Sites like Facebook can easily delude you into believing your friends are all living fancy lives with no downsides at all. That's because nobody posts pictures of themselves when they're awake at 2am rushing a project because their boss just dropped a deadline in their lap. Nobody posts pictures of their argument they just had with their spouse because of something stupid like "where should we go for dinner." For single people, nobody posts the nights they spend alone playing video games or watching TV for eight hours straight.
You only see the good parts of everyone else's lives and it will make you believe that other people don't have struggles. Its unhealthy to live that way.
I prefaced what I said with ‘the post kind of comes across a certain way’ then I literally proceeded to give two options that cover both likely scenarios applicable to most people
I don’t know what anybody could possibly find ridiculous about that and yet here we are...
While I enjoyed and agreed with your summarisation of what I and practically everyone on here already knows about the depressive social media feedback loops, I never once disagreed with that. I merely shared some friendly “don’t forget to stop and smell the roses, if you haven’t for awhile” advice.
Nobody gives a shit here what their "post comes across as." This isn't huggy-bear Reddit where we need to step on eggshells around each other.
Nah, you just misinterpreted my post and went off a rant
Some people are just looking for something to be shitty about, you’re obviously one of them. A telltale sign is they downvote every comment when they get in a slight disagreement with a random lol
Be all three. But I suggest you comply. I run my own company and scrub my social media often. Work behind the scenes. If you can’t be overt be covert. Donate to people that register voters. People who put in the work. Anonymize yourself and keep going
This. There's plenty of both national and local campaign efforts to donate to. My latest was to the local Republicans who were working to sue our governor for unconstitutional/illegal fines on businesses here.
It's weird, but after the first donation I started receiving a lot of news and materials by mail and email. Sure, yeah, they're looking for more donations. But they're also looking for other help too and will give you updates on local stuff going down that you may not otherwise know without word of mouth.
I wish the Republican Party here would sue our Republican governor for unconstitutional/illegal fines. But it seems like they’re in bed with him too.
I see you live in Texas too.
It sucks.
This is why I don't use my real name on social media. I even go a step further and get a password manager and use all unique passwords for all the accounts. We're under attack, as you can see from the DDOS attacks and in real life too.
It's a sign of the times. I received an eerily similar talk about two months ago. It fucking sucks to have to choose between your livelihood and your core beliefs, but that's where we are now, especially if you work for a large-cap company.
There are creative ways to disobey and get away with it.
If you are up to the task, I would recommend starting your own company if you can. As one who worked for Fortune 100 companies for many years, it really isn't worth spending the best years of your life working for a company that will just kick you to the curb once you are older or become what they perceive to be a political liability.
This is good advice.
This is why you need to get out of the rat race ASAP.
I am similar...haven't had that discussion with my boss but we did receive an email from HR telling the employees what they could and could not do during the 4th of July weekend. A lot of it are seriously done.
If you don't mind sharing that email I'd love to see it.
I would put my MAGA hat on and take a selfie with him. That would become my new profile pic.
While hilarious...probably not the best tip in the thread
No, it's the best
Deleted FB like 5 years ago.
Haven't thought about it since.
Side note,
Your phone's battery will thank you once you delete the social media apps off it.
I thought about how much BETTER I felt and how ridiculous people start to look who obsess over it.
So free!
Every day cutting strings that tie me to the digital plantation and IT FEELS GOOD MAN.
PSA: DELETE ALL SOCIAL MEDIA, IT CAN ONLY HARM YOU.
It’s a liability go anonymous
EVERYBODY STOP
FIND YOUR BALLS. FIND YOUR SPINE.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH WEARING A MAGA HAT???
About 100-750k/year. Some well paying jobs are not self-employable and you cannot start your own company and make that much. 10 to 25 years of that builds REAL wealth that your principles cannot buy. That's wealth that your political opponents WILL have if you don't take it. Wealth that ensures your children don't have to go to a brainwashed public school and come back to you with blue hair asking you to respect their newfound mental disorder. That's money that can weather you through an economic depression, save you from mortgage slavery, allow you to set up retirement plans and put you in a financial position where you CAN have a spine. Congratulations if you already have the wealth to have a spine or if you enjoy living in a trailer home with a maga hat to keep you warm. I've seen a lot of things but nothing like what's going on right now with conservatives since Trump won. It's very very bad.
You're free to choose money over principles if you wish. I am far from wealthy by any standard, and I have made decisions before that caused me temporary financial inconvenience for the sake of standing up for my principles. I am glad I did because the hardship was temporary but I can still look myself in the mirror and regret nothing.
Your country needs you to grow some fucking balls right now.
Fuck off with this cucked doom-pill bullshit.
It's not cucked doom-pill bullshit. You asked a question. I answered it. I'm happy for you. Unlike some people, I don't feel the need to express my political opinion at my place of business and I don't get upset when others do. I can sleep just fine not wearing a maga hat at work. Our environment should not be this way. People shouldn't lose jobs and have bosses and coworkers shit on them because of what they choose to do in their personal lives. That SUCKS. So does getting worse grades because you have a conservative viewpoint, not getting a promotion because your workplace is cucked. etc. My country needs me to VOTE in every election, be strong enough to provide for myself and my family, have the capacity to be a net taxpayer, etc. Bernie won't provide my children with better education, help me out when my mortage bill comes and me telling Karen she's a moron when she calls trump supporters stupid in a team meeting won't do shit for my country except make me collect unemployment until I find a new job. Conservatives should be aware that you can be self-employed and say whatever you want. They should also know just how petty and nasty a lot of their coworkers and bosses will be. They will punish conservatives and allow the most hateful left leaning rhetoric.
Where else can i make over 100k doing what I do?
That being said, i'm lucky that I can be very vocal at my job about politics and not face any type of repercussions over it.
However, if my boss told me tomorrow that I should stop talking about politics or stop talking about how great POTUS is or face termination, then I'll keep shit professional and talk politics outside of work.
But this whole post isn't about talking poltics at work. That's entirely different.
OP is saying he's being told to not have visible support for Trump outside of work, on his own social media accounts, et cetera.
Would you keep the 100k and obey if your boss told you to keep your mouth shut about your support for president Trump outside of work? What about simply loving your country, or your faith? If he told you not to be seen going to church?
This country crumbles if our men don't stand up for our principles.
Dude.
I spent every minute of my working life actively avoiding the cliques, the allies, the political or religious or socio cultural chat.
Why?
Because A it has no business in the workplace B my personal life or opinions do not impact my work skills or performance C vindictive or irrational or partisan co-workers have always been around- and in bosses too.
I don't NEED work friends beyond innocuous context. And the rare outside work friendship developed with a coworker will be on terms that work is neutral ground for us both.
None of this is oppressing me- it's basic commonsense in modern society to draw lines between gainful employment and personal life enviroments. Every person who failed at thay over the ladt 40 years around me failed at retaining jobs or being seen as a profession and getting promoted.
Are you fuckin retarded or just illiterate? Read my comment again and explain how any of what you just went off babbling about has to do with my comment.
Seriously. Imagine a CEO finding it neccessary to say this to a Bernie supporter. It would never be necessary. So why is it neccessary if you are a Trump supporter?
Precisely. This is why nobody should give a single inch on this. Any concession whatsoever gives validity to the bigotry. That must not happen.
Yeah people should fuck up their lives for internet points
Who said anything about "internet points?" Straw-man
You would guess wrong- literally watched it happen in 2016, then marginalized, shunned by coworkers, eventually quit ahead of the axe.
Funny how so many conservatives fail to recognize how clique and vicious loyalist Dems are.... and that a huge preportion of populated areas run majority blue... and that they HATE non neolibs. The SJW phenom is pockets and fringe, virtue signalling cancel culture a fad driven by online presence- but partisan shunning is widespread.
MAGA is racism lol. For real there are some “woke” people out there that have nothing better to do and think they are morally right...they should spend their time bettering their lives but that’s too hard. It’s all your fault, racist!
Nothing. The hat isn't the problem. It's being on social media.
Your organization clearly values you. Decide what is best for your future. Personally I would delete it.
Document the call, CYA
Close it all, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, etc. I closed my LinkedIn account, and good riddance. It was getting too SJW, tribalism, and micro aggression. Same with Facebook. I don’t have any other except Twitter and Parler. Employers nowadays ask on their applications for your social media info, and for me it’s none of their damn business. What good are connections if they come after you? It isn’t worth it. If your skill is in high demand your reputation will precede you. Also, never ever use the same email address for social media and personal. It’s easier than you think to obfuscate who you are.
They are hunting for you. If your company can be influenced to lean on other companies, if stock price can be hurt, if someone is willing to trade your 'scalp' to avoid the threat of the leftists, take it seriously. One of ten? There's 9 to pick up the slack.
Identify your public and semi-private social media accounts.
Nothing is 100% private if you are a publicly valuable target. It just takes a tech-insider to leak. For the rest, you have to think 'which friends are semi-trustworthy'?
Quietly - scrub any 'default to public' accounts like Twitter. Remove all references to employers or business.
Get a Protonmail account and move any social media accounts profiles to it.
Never use an email with your real name on anything connected online unless you run it like a pure-public account sanitized for universal acceptance.
If you're still on FB (semi-private social media), cull any friends lists of anyone even marginally sympathetic to critical-race-theory. Remove them or use 'restricted' groups that keep them from content.
Note that all profile and banner photos are usually 'public' by default. Delete them or mark them friends only. You only need one profile photo and one banner public. Change settings to hide friends, books, other interests.
You can start a new FB account and scrap the old one. Do not announce it to friends, just print your friends list and re-friend only those you trust. If you warn everyone, some may take screen shots of content.
Off the top of my head, not that I've thought about it.
High time we start our own Fortune 500 companies.
No banks would work with you.
Start our own banks?
What is Monero?
((())) intensifies.
Lol. Prepare to get vaporized. That is what Ghaddafi and Saddam Hussein were doing.
I had the exact same call two years ago while I was being investigated for a ridiculous fake #metoo/racism claim. Very much helped keep the red pill I'd swallowed lodged deep in my stomach. And, no surprise, my company sent a memo last month stating that they can and will terminate individuals for social media posts that don't align with their "values", whatever that means. My job is highly specialized, I spent my entire young adult life getting this role. I can't quit and find something similar. Luckily, the day I got the call to deregister as a Republican and to delete all my social media containing pro-Trump stuff I started working on my own project that should let me become more self-sufficient soon.
Going after your voter registration seems like it crosses a line, idI'call a lawyer
He's warning you that he'll have to destroy your life if someone brings up objections to you posts. Apparently, he doesn't want to have to destroy your life, and maybe secretly agrees with you, but he'll have to do what is required of him if you don't act prudently. You should consider that you are working in some place like Ch..a until Trump gets the country back.
Also lock down TAGGING- a big risk most miss.
This.
Why would anyone have their shit Public?
Keep that shit private.
My posts and pics are only limited to friends and family.
I deleted Facebook and Instagram is next. If the dems sweep this election, I don’t know what they will do.
You know exactly what they'll do.
See you in the gulag
Wow, sorry to hear that. Tough spot to be in.
I work for a large non-profit organization & an email was just sent by our CEO that warned employees about posting on their social media accounts. Basically said we represent the company, therefore our beliefs should be alignment & support the company’s beliefs.
It’s serious as they recently fired a worker because she posted something against BLM on her Facebook account.
Looked further into our company & discovered that a board member is an ex-Democratic Assembly woman. In addition, 95% of “indirect donations” have been given to the Democrat Party.
I don't even have a LinkedIn anymore man. I've gotten rid of it ALL. It's not safe right now.
Imagine a CEO saying this to BLM supporter. The fact that saying this to a Trump supporter is ok means this country is in a very bad place.
Only if you want to be fired.
Yes, you get the unemployment claim, you get the satisfaction of not being neutered and cucked, and you get the dignity of finding a job that will tell the commie internet mob to go pound sand.
What the fuck is happening to our country? Are there any MEN left?
If you are fired you can't file for unemployment can you?
Other way around. If you quit you can't.
If you're fired "for cause" you can't either, but that's for severe shit like punching a customer or falsifying documents, not wearing a MAGA hat on your own facebook pictures.
Let them fire you for dumb shit and move on to a better job.
How about grateful that your based boss' boss cared enough about you to give you a heads up and preserve your career, livelihood and future from the Cancel Culture.
I work in the technology sector, what you're going through isn't uncommon. No one is allowed to express any conservative view publicly, in the office, or out, because the other people in the industry (whether coworkers, colleagues, or the community at large) will try to completely ruin your life.
I've watched people screenshot social media and send it to their bosses before.
I am sorry you are going through this. A friend of mine got called in to HR because she posted a BLM pamphlet and a Dennis the Menace cartoon about getting out of trouble by saying you are offended.
They told her BLM and Antifa are good. And, that they are helping Black people. They told her if she posted anything else she would be sent to diversity training. If that didn’t work she’d be terminated.
Asshole Liberal Hospital network.
Your Boss's Boss is based like your Boss maybe and is looking out for you so you dont get doxxed and or fired for posting MAGA.
Delete facebook, hit the gym, lawyer up
How did you not already know this? Facebook is career suicide, just delete it.
Man... I completely empathize with you. I work for a major entertainment company also at the high executive level (probably fewer than 20 women are in my position across my sub-company) and I have stopped activity on all my social media and had to unfollow many conservative pages. Coworkers are actually investing people and digging into comments and followers of the conservative media/influencers. I am more scared than upset because I do love my job but I know my silence is definitely part of the problem :(
It's unreal. STASI methods, USA just like DDR, East Germany where everyone spied on each other
So we are the persecuted group. Great.
Orange lives matter!
If your bosses boss calls you and tells you to clean up your Facebook page, you should do it! Sounds like he’s just looking out for you. If celebrities careers can be canceled and so can yours. Sounds like you’ve got a good position at a fortune 500 company don’t put that at risk. What if you can be fired “at will”? No lawyer is going to take on a Fortune 500 company Pro Bono. It will cost you a bundle, take years all while you don’t have a job! A jury’s decision is always a coin flip. NOT WORTH IT! People will encourage you to “go for it” or “fight for freedom- die on that hill” but they and their jobs are not at risk. Why is anyone still on FaceBook anyway!!! Take care and good luck! 🙂
In my company, all C level executives and high up directors all have one thing in common, most can’t even be found online and those that do only discuss company related news. There’s just no benefit to do anything else, it can come back to bite you.