Breaking News! US has to return Louisiana Purchase to France due to typo, rules the Supreme Court
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Lol. Not too far off. Thanks Roberts.
Edit: facts matter, on this occasion Roberts dissented and gorsuch did the back stabbing. Neither of these "constitutional justices" is on our team. They'll take turns to screw us over and obfuscate the real power behind them.
The decision is a step in the wrong direction for our Republic. One of many missteps both gorsuch and Roberts have helped us to make. Fuck them both, no apologies from me.
From a whole new world to a Brave New World.
While it may not sound like it now, part of Trump's agenda is to heal the wounds that have been dividing this country for decades that the Marxist have been pushing. The fact that Native American lands were stolen and almost all treaties that were signed with the Indians were never honored, making things right in one area of the country we'll put that to rest. Oklahoma and the Native Americans there have been working together for decades so it is a small matter to honor the treaty of so long ago. Trump is trying to bind up Old Wounds and address the original sins in the founding of this country. Do I think the huge hunks of the country are going to go back to Native Americans? No this is real but it is symbolic. How could Trump have guaranteed this outcome? In the end, he really couldn't. But many if not most of the non Trump justices have been deeply compromised and it made decisions that have not been in the best interest of the country because they don't follow the Constitution. If those justices have been pressured negatively they may be looking for ways to make up for that before they leave and I think that many if not most will be leaving for exactly the reason of their compromise.
Kek
Baton Rino
Sorry, Creek Nation!
Mattis fucking hates America. I don't care if he served in the marines for 44 years and has 9 distinguished service medals. That's all a bunch of crap. If he really loved our country he would have put our president above our troops and his so called "loyalty" to them. His loyalty should be to TRUMP first, and his troops second. Fucking coward.
I did notice that
There is a reason all of the Justices are either Zionists, Jesuits, or affiliated with some Freemasonic sorority like Phi beta kappa. They arent there for justice
Except that's not what Gorsuch did. The land isn't being "returned" as the US still has Federal jurisdiction over it.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-9526_9okb.pdf
Private land owners in E Oklahoma are going to be challenged on the ownership of their land deeds.
Even if that happens, I doubt it'd get much traction. Again, nothing of the sort has happened for the last century and I doubt it'll happen now since there is no legal basis for the challenge. Indian reservations aren't literally "Indians only" places. Even the Ninth Circuit has ruled that Indians do not have legal authority over non-Indians who own land located within reservation boundaries.
https://www.racinelaw.net/blog/authority-indian-tribe-land-located-reservation-owned-non-indian/
Never ever ever apologize fren. Our ancestors did nothing wrong. I don't care if it was their land or whatever. We won the war they lost. They are lucky they got to stay and live on subsidies in the greatest country ever. But im starting to think it's time to boot them. They hate us. They love alcohol though. Savages
It's what you get in a society that throws participation trophies willy nilly. Tens of millions of fucktards who don't understand the concept of winners and losers.
The europeans got into the Americas and owned it by right of conquest via war. It happened in Europe, Africa, and Asia for thousands of years prior, and even the natives did it. People goto war over land, winner gets it, and that's what happened here.
Exactly. If we didn't take it, someone else would have. They ought to be happy with how hospitable and forgiving we were after all the barbarous things they did to our ancestors who were just exploring back then. Not to mention we're paying reparations for shit that none of us were a part of (both sides).
Totally in agreement brother. It's about time we sent them back to where they came from and keep this country just as Jesus planned it to be.
Except they're not really "shitting" on anyone. The only thing this MIGHT change is the dude getting a retrial in a Federal court.
My brother went to law school only to be 120k in debt with no law job. I think he is working at some nonprofit for 30k a year now. I on the other hand started a blue-collar business and am now making what lawyers at top law firms make. He scoffs at my success for some reason.
it wouldn't help...this isn't about the law or the Constitution.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The DACA decision was an especially poorly written decision. The fact that the legal analysis suggested considering “the undue challenges of illegal immigrants coming to this country” was fucking mind boggling
The beauty here is that you don't really need to be a lawyer to understand law.
Imperfect title makes the deed void. No matter how far back the notarial review discovered the error.
From the opinion:
Minority/dissent: "The decision today creates significant uncertainty for the State’s continuing authority over any area that touches Indian affairs, ranging from zoning and taxation to family and environmental law. None of this is warranted."
Majority: “In reaching our conclusion about what the law demands of us today, we do not pretend to foretell the future and we proceed well aware of the potential for cost and conflict around jurisdictional boundaries, especially ones that have gone unappreciated for so long. But it is unclear why pessimism should rule the day."
I don't know, dude, sure sounds like both sides anticipate plenty of conflict outside of the domains you say, and it certainly sounds like anything but cut and dry. Sounds like a goddamn woke mess.
No shit. People are going to "anticipate" just about anything since none of us are clairvoyant. Based on what we've seen so far though, even if some Indian tries to sue over land ownership, they're not likely to succeed.
Sounds like a goddamn woke mess if all you see are goddamn woke messes.
alternately, in a few months US citizens could vote in a republican congress which could hammer down the treaty land claim in a more direct language.
my understanding is that SCOTUS was basically saying 'congress hasn't technically invalidated the older treaty's
though obviously, if the SCOTUS really is on board the political activism train, they could just keep nitpicking.
This can't be allowed to stand. Fuck the SCOTUS, some things are an overrear, even for them.
Nope, it’s not a taking of you never had clear title. And your title insurance probably has an exception for any adverse claim that is more than 70 years old. And you can’t claim adverse possession because that is a British common law concept.
Depends on the state, some places adverse possession is legal.
Yeah, but it ain’t the law on an Indian reservation.
“ At one level, the question before us concerns Jimcy McGirt”
Ngl, I started reading this fast and thought it read Jimmy McGill. If I was a Justice, I’d be tempted to troll readers in the middle of a 100 page opinion. How many people would see it?
That's not the point. OK had lost control over the land, so it could functionally be turned into another state. The OK police will have no jurisdiction there. State laws will no longer apply, zoning and property laws can be invalidated or amended. The US has jurisdiction over all states. That's a given. But OK will no longer have any more jurisdiction over it than they would TX, functionally making it separate. How often do Feds really flex on states rights?
That is the entire point. Congress can't create a new state out of parts of an existing state without the consent of the original state and the state-to-be. The Assimilative Crimes Act makes any violation of state law on reservations a Federal law.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-667-assimilative-crimes-act-18-usc-13
https://www.bia.gov/frequently-asked-questions
I don't know the law on this, was he correct based off the law as it was written? I don't like my judges going either way based off it being expedient or opinions
Neil Gorsuch is a snake. Conservatives warned Donald not to appoint this treasonous Bush appointee and former clerk for Anthony Kennedy to the Supreme Court. Neither Gorsuch nor Kavanaugh are worthy to fit Scalia's shoes. Stop selecting these milquetoast Cuckservatives for judgeship positions, especially the Supreme Court! Even Constitutionalists who would vote with us 99% of the time should be off the table now. We need right-wing ideological judges who will vote with us 100% of the time. Democrats have no qualms in selecting left-wing ideologues for judgeship positions. We need to act the same way!
“This case didn’t change ownership of any land. It didn’t impact the prosecutions of non-Indians in any way. All it did was bring clarity to jurisdictional questions regarding the border, and** it enhanced the Creek Nation's ability as a sovereign nation** to work with other sovereign interests to protect people and to work in common interests." -From the article (sovereign nation... fantastic)
Of course it didn’t change ownership of land, it merely set the groundwork for 20 years of incremental litigation that will change the ownership of land!
Well for the sake of sanity, look at the bright side , GAMBLING CASINOS are now Legal in half of the state, maybe Tulsa will change its name to New Vegas
Roberts actually wrote the dissent.
It's all BS. Roberts only dissented because he knew his "side" would lose. I'm sure they were both in the same room at pedo island.
And every once in a whole they will throw a bone like the judgement on religious freedoms, just to pretend there is actually some objectivity in the courts
We are, just standing by. The furor over SCOTUS rulings is a joke compared to what's (not) happening in Congress. In the second paragraph of the opinion, "Gorsuch" says this: "Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word." SCOTUS is meant to interpret the law, yes? What if the law is retarded? What if it conflicts with some arcane treaty from the past then has to be needlessly unteased by SCOTUS? What if the body that writes laws does absolutely jack shit for 4 decades? Congress is the festering heart of our govts bullshit. SCOTUS is a sideshow. Replace 2/3rds of Congress with people who just simply want our fucking country to prosper and the swamp drains in a few months.
Spez: Nancy Pelosi, House Majority Leader, third in line for the Presidency, member of the Gang of 8, said this TODAY, "We have a path that the Supreme Court has laid out that we certainly will not ignore. And we will never stop our oversight. This isn't so much about the President's records, although we'd like to know how Russia funded his operations all those years."
The courts strike down laws liberals think are “retarded” all the time. See, e.g., virtually every substantive executive order of Orange Man.
Vigilante days are coming. It is inevitable because our government treats people like slaves instead of citizens.
Except the US still has jurisdiction over the land.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-9526_9okb.pdf
except that it sets a precedent that will only get bolder like everything does with these faggots
Outstanding username/comment combo right here.
Oh.. Okay. Do you have time to cuck?
What precedent, exactly? The only "precedent" that was set is that Congress needs to finish what they start, as that is the origin of the problem.
And what do you think congress will do? Its why you dont want congress altering the constitution. Our politicians can be bought laughably cheap....by anyone in the world.
The hell are you talking about? The problem is that Congress started the process of disestablishing the reservation on the area. Even then, that ultimately changes nothing because the various tribes don't have legal authority over non-Indians on the reservations.
It sets a precendent of what?
"We just want to get married, no one wants to brainwash your kids."
Bake my cake, bigot!
Wax dees nuts, bigot!
Yeah they do. Crimes committed on Indian lands are tried in Federal court. Tribal courts either don't exist or have no legal standing.
And they reverse Roe v Wade and declare all they babies aborted must now be allowed to live.
All the babies that were aborted will all get votes in the upcoming election, and they'll all vote Democrat.
We must pay the mothers reparations as well
Delete this before they get any fucking ideas
They develop silicone-based bodies to contain their disembodied souls; over time they grow to (understandably) hate mankind for all we have done & continue to fail
They are the “grey aliens” 👽 👽 👽
Kek, and sad at the same time.
What the fuck is happening in this timeline?
Will the pedophiles, traitors, and crooks be brought to Justice?
Yep... sadly only thing they'd understand is going into these people's houses and forcibly holding them..... accountable.
Yep... I've never been so glad to be my platoons designated combat life saver... that is extremely good training to have regardless of what happens.
at this point anyone who denies this statement is actively trying to stop any kind of mobilization and should be treated the same as any traitor would be
This is the answer. We're too fat and afraid. Why wouldn't they be so bold and just shove it in our faces?
They will come Judgement Day.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/judgment_day
This ruling is stemming from a case where a man repeatedly raped a 4 year old child. So no.
God will have His day.
It's the UN's 2030 plan. The US cannot be around for it to work. You're in the beginning stages.
https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/supreme-court-hands-oklahoma-a-loss-on-tribal-lands-fight/article_4c33fbe8-c1ed-11ea-8c16-2705dc65414a.html
TLDR Land ownership is not going back the Native Americans.
I don’t pretend to understand tribal law. But through some fuckery they are considered somewhat sovereign.
Not really. This was basically some sex offender trying to delay his sentence by citing a technicality. The ruling was:
Congress is the only body able to recognize or disestablish "Indian country".
Congress never did that to the area in question. The started to, but never did.
Crimes committed in "Indian country" must be tried in Federal court.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-9526_9okb.pdf
No land changed hands, no one is getting kicked off their property (not that the Creeks have much power to do so anyway).
This is a case of "technically correct" being less correct than "practically correct". Oklahoma has exercised legal jurisdiction over these areas for over a century and fuck all has been said about it until now. It may be "technically correct" that the area is Indian country, but as far as I can see not a single one of them have given a shit about it until one of them decided to rape a 4-year old.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/09/supreme-court-says-eastern-half-of-oklahoma-is-native-american-land.html#:~:text=McGirt%20is%20serving%20a%20life,the%20Creek%20Nation's%20historic%20territory.
The sex offender and the age is being left out of a bunch of articles, truly is disgusting what our "news" is these days.
The sad part is that a bunch of folks here are buying the whole "DURR DEY GIVIN DA INJUNS BAK DA LAND" story hook, line, and sucker. All because they're too stupid or pig-headed to bother reading the actual case and the laws surrounding it.
Wait a few years. Like others have said, you're going to see challenges to land ownership because the original titles should have never been granted.
More than that, the Feds don't generally charge crimes like shoplifting or other petty crimes. So if you're Native in Eastern OK, you basically have carte blanche to be a petty criminal.
We've waited decades already, nevermind that this was already hashed out.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1651530.html
Am I the only one less worried about the reservation and more worried about whether or not a guy who raped a 4 year old will go free?
What, do you expect virtue signalling or something? Dude thinks he has something in a minor technicality, but you'd be nuttier than Pelosi if you think his sentence will change.
Okay? What's your point? No one's saying he didn't. Are you expecting me to extol the evils of raping a 4 year old when such isn't necessary?
The government setting aside land for reservations was one of the worst ideas in the country's history. They should have been made to integrate into society.
What happens if someone is 1/1024 indian?
EDIT: This was partially serious question. What happens to someone who's mixed?
Underrated
Thanks pede!
Thank you for this because i was ready to defend the union. Seems like its a win for the local nations which is good.
Squatter's rights. We sat on the land and improved it for 150 years so it's ours now. The Indian owners are free to disagree. And we can fight a war over it.
Adverse possession motherfuckers. Didn't see natives complaining about all that wealth they were able to burgle from our houses.
No wonder the left didn't put up a big protest over his nomination. He was never a solid conservative like Kavanaugh.
And all that time I thought they were just being nice because they "owed" us one after killing Scalia. Lmao. They're never nice.
No he didn’t. For fucks sake. The jurisdiction over tribal members was given to them and the feds, not the state.
We’re in agreement there, but they did, and they did it to the letter of the law on the books.
Not arguing that it wasn’t stupid.
Translation:
“REEEEEEEE! HOW DARE YOU TELL EVERYONE THE TRUTH! I WANT TO BE MAD! REEEEEEEEE!
Cry somewhere else, you whiny turd.
Don’t watch TV, so Hannity doesn’t matter to me.
I’m less than 40, so the boomer remark is laughable.
As for the rest of your childish name calling, your opinion of me is worth less than the dump I took while writing this reply.
All you’ve proven is that you’re triggered by adults not taking your toddler bait.
Please, come back and talk when you aren’t a screeching child throwing a tantrum.
Sick of what exactly, being a stupid fucking faggot?
You do realize that Trump is a civic nationalist, right? No one here is responsible for this state of affairs, you mong. They have the same amount of power as you do. Do tell, what is your alternative to civic nationalism? Tell us in explicit detail how you are going to achieve your ethnostate.
Or what? What are you going to do about it? Nothing. You're a bitch. Go eat a bullet just like your fuehrer did.
Why are you crying like a bitch? You are attacking a guy for posting a fact. You didnt debate him or make any educated argument, just starting trying. Im not sure what a civnat is or anything else. Just noticed you are a fucknut.
Gorsuch said yes to Trans be given employment priority over straights.
Gorsuch was not accused of rape like Kavannah and Thomas because he is a secret communist: e.g., Kennedy, Roberts, and the many other Rhino justices.
Leftists: "If we can't control the USA then nobody will!"
Did you notice that they pushed the Green New Deal like two days after Trump said the US will never be a socialist country?
It was a crime of passion.
IM LITERALLY SHAKING
ALSO DADDYS ON HANNITY NEXT
The Rhodesian LARPers have been in this fight back when you were probably cheering for Obama's "hope and change" because they saw what America could become if the deep state kept pushing.
Obama's election marked the turning point in the cultural war where patriotism became the losing side. Just look at any country music singer popular in '07 and by '09 unless they were singing about weed and partying they pretty much disappeared. Rhodesia was like a second America, people declaring their independence to build a free nation. The Rhodesian LARPers know what patriotism is and even if it all goes to shit they'll stay here to fight on while you go fuck off to Japan like some weeaboo who doesn't realize that the Japanese don't want you in their country and thinks it's some sort of haven of right wing ideals when the reality is that they just sweep their problems under the rug and pretend they're not there with their frequent rapes, high suicide rates, and pedophile epidemic and aren't much better than here.
The best thing you can do for your family is to prepare to fight for your country even if you have to die for it and leave them abandoned because at least you'll have given them a chance at a future.
The target was already on this website, and whatever they can't find they'll fabricate so I will speak my mind however I please.
Nobody's going to go on a shooting spree to "fight for freedom" besides an FBI patsy and your fear of that just goes to show how much you have to learn. Resistance starts with peaceful non-compliance, and the creation of an autonomous system to act outside of the control of the oppressors. thedonald.win is a small example of this. Any prepper worth their salt knows shooting back is the last resort.
"looking for practical solutions" gave me a real laugh though. What do you think you're actually doing. You're always "looking" but you never find any answers. Are you even looking at all? or are you just waiting and hoping for Trump to save the day because you're to afraid to engage in the most basic act of resistance? Since your backup plan is to run away to Japan I'm inclined to believe the latter and that "looking for practical solutions" is just virtue signalling to make yourself feel good about doing nothing.
can you imagine if the US returned CA to the Mexicans and the first thing they do is deport the liberals? top kek
ItS oNlY fAiR!!
Wtf is wrong with the Supreme Court?
I thought this was supposed to a conservative court?
Establishment Republicans are fucking cucks. I'm sick of all this. It's like everyone went crazy.
Breaking News! Neil Gorsuch rules Declaration of Independence isn’t a legal document, returning 13 colonies to Great Britain.
kek
Just wait.
Maybe we can just give them the East and west coasts.
Imagine going thru twister season every year in Oklahoma and hearing what bullshit the Supreme Court has to say about your land/home.
So we get our money back AND we get to take it back by force??!
Sounds like a win-win!!
To quote Andrew Jackson, "The judge has made his decision, let's see him enforce it."
Alaska is returned to Russia
Trump should make a tweet saying that Alaska deal was unfair. So we should pay Russia what it's worth today or just give it back. I wonder how the Russian Federation will treat all those Inuit tribes
They made the ruling then the traitorous fucks went on vacation - unreal:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/press/pressreleases/pr_07-09-20
No worries, just take a gun to the border, fire 2 shots and they'll surrender the land :)
Wasted 1 bullet.
Leave it to liberal 'justices' to protect a rapist.
I'm out of the loop on this one. What happened?
Eastern Oklahoma is reverting to tribal oversight because Gorsuch is a globalist whore
I.... I have no words. I've seen so much stupidity these past 4 years, and yet there's always another level to it. Just what happened though involving the supreme court? What case were they looking at in which a ruling of this kind of result could have happened?
The other gay frogs. 😉
This means Chicago now belongs to the land of Mike Pence.
Guess that means that since I'm on west coast I'm a citizen of Mexico or Spain depending which claim is more valid.
Tragically you have been living in Mexico all this time. Don't tell me you didn't know.
This is the only place we have left. The rest of the world is a leftist hellhole. We are losing the country, imagine if these marxists get into power.
Imagine 20 years ago?
🤣🤣🤣 I thought this was real for a sec Bc I didn’t see the troll flair
The best part about this was that it was a rapist serving time with a thousand year sentence for raping a 4 year old which kicked this off. Oh and he got his verdict overturned, and will likely be the first of many criminals which will benefit from this. Clown world rejoices!
Anything's possible with "Letter of the Law!" ™
Is it a tax? Don't matter, call it a fine, problem solved - "Letter of the Law!" ™
It slices, it dices. Wanna bypass the legislature completely and write laws, it can do that too!
As long as they take french Canada.
And after that, we'll have to return Seward's Folly. Too bad, Alaska is such a beautiful state.
I mean, fuck it at this point, why not? Let's just go FULL HONK.
The good news.
Can't have crime in Illinois if Illinois is not on the map.
Also, the map seems to say if you go to California you will hear a lot of the Spanish language. Who knew?
If someone in the French government reads this post title, they will be celebrating bigly.
So what happens to people who own houses on the reserves in OK?
Nothing. If they break the law I believe it is now federal courts that they have to deal with. Other than that every thing is the same.
Trump should invade these lands and ask the native army to defend themselves or it is now conquered
also fees are taxes
Also SCOTUS ceded Florida back to Spain, European Union and NATO are sending forces to secure the border.
WooHoo the Republic of Texas is BACK, baby!
Napoleon was NOT the legitimate ruler of France and had no legal standing to sign that treaty. Give the land back! REEEEEEE
Can't we just buy back Oklahoma with like three cases of whiskey?