Socialists that go from socialism to capitalism don't say this. But I have heard socialists on dozens of occasions bash the capitalism they live in and claim that the 'failed' socialist states failed because they weren't "real socialism". I would argue that I have heard many european socialists say this. And many that have said all the socialism in Europe from the late 40s to 60s was never "REAL socialism". And even if there has never been a 'real capitalist' nation become a 'real socialist' nation, the meme is still clearly true. Capitalism creates a lot of wealth and motivation to work therefore lifting more people out of poverty and into a comfortable existence. Where as socialism eliminates any real need to work and thereby diminishes motivation to work thereby decreasing total wealth and dropping more people into poverty. The socialists always just claim that the redistribution isn't happening properly if there is one person left with a savings account. Socialism kills off all nation states within two generations every time.
I would add that even China was forced to adopt elements of free markets in order to save themselves from communism induced stagnation. Their economy has grown practically unabated since.
We have some very dumb people with no knowledge of history pushing against our proven but imperfect system. Time to push back.
Memes are definitely not a waste of space. A meme of a dog, rainbow, fire and 15 words can communicate what it too me about 200 words to communicate. In this case words are a bigger waste of space. Plus it is funny, so it stays in your mind longer and stronger. The Donald is all about longer and stronger.
I think Trump got popular because he had enough name recognition, trolled the media on their platforms, and brought out the people who believe all leadership in America is bought and paid for. Trump represented their first chance to vote for an outsider. 4chan did the same, but was a much smaller group, younger and more visible online.
you try so hard and fail even harder, woe must thee be having such a miserable existence... guess it makes sense why you'd latch on the the slightest hope instead of 'tranzin' up and making something of yourself. (tranz because I dare not assume your gender/sex/robot status or whatever new alphabet soup acronym you come up with)
The socialists always claim that failed communism and socialism wasn't pure enough marxism - and that is why they failed. This argument is used by most socialists I've discussed things with. Since it never lasts more than a few decades before the country goes to total crap - they just argue the marxism was 'perverted' and if we go all the way it'll work. So I would say the meme is close enough to fully correct.
May be some truth in that. But there is always some socialist bureaucrat selling the idea inside socialism. Socialist countries also end up getting the 'deep pocket bureaucrats" stealing a lot of wealth and amassing power. Probably worse in socialist countries because the middle class gets obliterated so you end up with a giant mass of low income and a tiny group of closed-off elites. When you get a big middle class there is a better chance to kick people up into nation management positions. Socialist countries usually end up in-breeding leadership very quickly and thoroughly
They are so wasteful FascistBook and Twatter built AI to detect memes because it destroyed their narrative when not made by the Left.
Controlled opposition, learn to code, NPC.
Socialists that go from socialism to capitalism don't say this. But I have heard socialists on dozens of occasions bash the capitalism they live in and claim that the 'failed' socialist states failed because they weren't "real socialism". I would argue that I have heard many european socialists say this. And many that have said all the socialism in Europe from the late 40s to 60s was never "REAL socialism". And even if there has never been a 'real capitalist' nation become a 'real socialist' nation, the meme is still clearly true. Capitalism creates a lot of wealth and motivation to work therefore lifting more people out of poverty and into a comfortable existence. Where as socialism eliminates any real need to work and thereby diminishes motivation to work thereby decreasing total wealth and dropping more people into poverty. The socialists always just claim that the redistribution isn't happening properly if there is one person left with a savings account. Socialism kills off all nation states within two generations every time.
I would add that even China was forced to adopt elements of free markets in order to save themselves from communism induced stagnation. Their economy has grown practically unabated since.
We have some very dumb people with no knowledge of history pushing against our proven but imperfect system. Time to push back.
Memes are definitely not a waste of space. A meme of a dog, rainbow, fire and 15 words can communicate what it too me about 200 words to communicate. In this case words are a bigger waste of space. Plus it is funny, so it stays in your mind longer and stronger. The Donald is all about longer and stronger.
I think Trump got popular because he had enough name recognition, trolled the media on their platforms, and brought out the people who believe all leadership in America is bought and paid for. Trump represented their first chance to vote for an outsider. 4chan did the same, but was a much smaller group, younger and more visible online.
you try so hard and fail even harder, woe must thee be having such a miserable existence... guess it makes sense why you'd latch on the the slightest hope instead of 'tranzin' up and making something of yourself. (tranz because I dare not assume your gender/sex/robot status or whatever new alphabet soup acronym you come up with)
The socialists always claim that failed communism and socialism wasn't pure enough marxism - and that is why they failed. This argument is used by most socialists I've discussed things with. Since it never lasts more than a few decades before the country goes to total crap - they just argue the marxism was 'perverted' and if we go all the way it'll work. So I would say the meme is close enough to fully correct.
And China also had to plate tungsten bars with gold to prop up state sponsored capitalism once Trump started applying the tariffs.
May be some truth in that. But there is always some socialist bureaucrat selling the idea inside socialism. Socialist countries also end up getting the 'deep pocket bureaucrats" stealing a lot of wealth and amassing power. Probably worse in socialist countries because the middle class gets obliterated so you end up with a giant mass of low income and a tiny group of closed-off elites. When you get a big middle class there is a better chance to kick people up into nation management positions. Socialist countries usually end up in-breeding leadership very quickly and thoroughly
They are so wasteful FascistBook and Twatter built AI to detect memes because it destroyed their narrative when not made by the Left. Controlled opposition, learn to code, NPC.