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montominco 6 points ago +6 / -0

The socialists always claim that failed communism and socialism wasn't pure enough marxism - and that is why they failed. This argument is used by most socialists I've discussed things with. Since it never lasts more than a few decades before the country goes to total crap - they just argue the marxism was 'perverted' and if we go all the way it'll work. So I would say the meme is close enough to fully correct.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

And China also had to plate tungsten bars with gold to prop up state sponsored capitalism once Trump started applying the tariffs.

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montominco 1 point ago +1 / -0

May be some truth in that. But there is always some socialist bureaucrat selling the idea inside socialism. Socialist countries also end up getting the 'deep pocket bureaucrats" stealing a lot of wealth and amassing power. Probably worse in socialist countries because the middle class gets obliterated so you end up with a giant mass of low income and a tiny group of closed-off elites. When you get a big middle class there is a better chance to kick people up into nation management positions. Socialist countries usually end up in-breeding leadership very quickly and thoroughly