Disagree with that. You can't excommunicate anyone who isn't 100% on board with your agenda, else you'll have no one left to help. Even Trump banned bump-stocks. Gonna hurl yourself from the Trump train for that?
Even fucking West Virginia, man. Probably the most free state I've ever lived in and fucking Jim Justice mandated masks. The only saving grace is he said police won't be enforcing it, but stores can still deny you service.
I refuse to wear it. Last I checked I'm not living in a Muslim country where face coverings are mandatory.
Not to mention WV has had very few cases and only "93" deaths (of which I highly doubt are entirely accurate hence the quotation marks).
Well, the alternative is Joe Biden who has already declared his support for a national mask mandate which would be worse yet.
But I do wish POTUS would flex his muscles, own the libs, and openly advocate for the side of freedom. Stay open, keep schools open, fire Fauci, no masks.
Yeah, its more of an empty threat to light a fire under his ass lol. Its really the lynchpin of all this madness. No masks and EVERYTHING, and I mean everything up to spygate, begins to fall apart.
Am I the only one noticing about half the people with masks pulled down below their noses, and nobody saying anything because deep down we all know how little control we have over catching this virus, and are beyond caring at this point.
There are those who live in fear and wear it 24/7. Those that do it because they feel it is courteous. Those who do it because they were told and maliciously comply (these are the ones that you mention). Finally those (me) who know its all a scam and refuse to wear one unless it is the store policy and I really need something from that specific store. Fucking fag DeWine is making it mandatory by county now. Guess what? I will not be going to any store in those counties. I'll just drive the extra 10 minutes to go to a different one. So sick of this shit and the idiots who go along with it
I live in Canada and there has been some kind of mandate or something and all the gas stations have signs up about wearing masks and I just ignore them, walk past the hand sanitizer, grab some snacks and pay for my gas and even the people wearing masks don't say a thing because so many people do the same where I live.
I have to wear a mask in my state despite having a medical exemption that some shithead at the door of BJs thinks she's qualified to challenge.
So I wear a loose fitting bandana under my nose that just happens to slip down about 30 seconds into the store. I see others wearing a mask on their chin in the store and doing the same thing. Most people know it's bullshit.
If masks work how come after hundreds of years of high mortality rate influenza epidemics and many legitimate medical trials evaluating mask effectiveness against influenza have they not been recommended by the FDA (or any other medical body)?
How come my N95 mask package explicitly states its only for dust and not even mold spores, which are 10x to 100x larger than corona virus particles?
Answer: they think we're retarded.
More than that, unfortunately. I don't wear a mask at work (it's usually just three of us, at the moment one is away on vacation). When someone from next door came over with a mask on my coworker quickly put her mask on, but it was inside out with the blue part facing out. Moron.
I corrected a coworker who had her face diaper on with the blue on the inside. She refused to turn it around, said it was the way she was supposed to wear it.
That's the level of intelligence/awareness we're working with.
And I do remember hospital waiting rooms and the like telling you to put on a mask if you're showing symptoms of flu or other easily communicable illnesses.
You just said it yourself. If you are showing symptoms. This is about forcing healthy people to wear masks everywhere 100% of the time.
And I'm touching my face a LOT MORE with the mask on than without it. It's fucking irritating. So more germs get on my face, and on the mask.
and btw, where are the randomized control trials demonstrating the effectiveness of your dumb cloth and surgical masks in a general population scenario? That's the kind of science the panic porn media insisted upon in order to prescribe "better than nothing" hydroxychloroquine with a 65 year history and billions of dosages safety record in the face of a global pandemic. Where are the randomized controlled trials that prove the effectiveness of cloth and surgical masks in a general population scenario as compared to the well known health risks to the wearer?
A cheap mask is useless. The only one that is even remotely effective are the N95 masks. And they have to be completely over your mouth, nose, and chin and only used once. Anything else is a security blanket that is completely ineffective.
What do people do when they wear masks? They constantly touch their mask to adjust, phones, etc. How many people do you think are actually washing their masks or getting a new one after each use? If not, they are doing more harm than good. Not to mention that it inhibits your breathing.
If you're healthy and/or not actively performing surgery, there is no reason to wear a mask.
You either had COVID-1984 or will get it and will either die or recover like 99.5% of those who have contracted it. It's not going anywhere and will not be under control until we have heard immunity. It's how diseases work.
And if you're waiting for a vaccine, good luck. How well do all those flu shots work each year? Stop being scared and stand up for your liberties or stay in your home and continue cowering.
Masks are just a reminder of the deep states complete power while they fuck us in the ass and take away the end of our rights. Theyre laughing at us while the do it
I love the logic, throw that black and white shit back at them (not racist, but the pun was intended). Your logic statement above is a perfect example of the Dem logic if the president had come out and mandated the mask waring. So, every-time they come up with shit, we need to find false logic to throw back at them. Maybe one in 100 will actually gain some traction before the RINO's shut it down....
Sorry for the rant, haven't had my coffee yet this morning.
Not wearing the face diaper to play along with this farce. Went to get an ice cream cone last night. Saw maskless people sitting inside at tables enjoying their ice cream and talking and thought cool I won’t get hassled about a mask. Wrong, lady behind the counter says we require everyone inside to wear a mask. Without hesitation, I said I’ll go outside after I get my ice cream. She just looked like it’s the first time anyone responded that way to her and filled my order. I know it’s been pointed out before but how fucking stupid is the policy of requiring masks to order in a restaurant but sitting at a table and chatting away while eating is okey doke you? I’m not sick, I’m not wearing a mask. It’s going to be my new comeback.
I’m over 55 and asthmatic, if I had the damn flu, I’d know it! I’m just petty enough that if a store forced the issue with me, I’d ask if it’s worth losing my business forever over this. Lots of other stores that aren’t as militant about face diapers. I’m not sick and therefore not spreading any virus. Because I’m considered in the high-risk category for age and pre-existing conditions there’s no chance that I am an asymptomatic carrier. Enough of this bullshit. Really disappointed to see so many compliant sheeple.
My employer is requiring us to wear masks now after our stupid governor decided it’s time to start fining people. I don’t want to wear the mask! What do I do?
Same issue with me. My Dept got ordered to work from home in March. In June we got the go ahead to go back to the building, in staggered shifts, face masks mandatory when not at your desk. Older workers and those with health conditions had the option to remain at home. I took that option, no point in going into the office to work in isolation when I’ve adapted to remote work. I don’t want to wear a mask to use the rest room. Disgusting.
Tell your medical professional you get sick wearing a mask because it restricts your oxygen supply, and it destroys your immune system's ability to take care of you. Also, it's a claustrophobia issue--face diapers are not a neutral thing to your brain.
You'll get a good letter just like I did, then you get to watch your employer scramble.
If they force you to wear a riot mask, like my employer did, make sure you get the kind that is a plastic shield attached to glasses frames. The one with the elastic band is like wearing a vice grip on your head.
I knew they were going to try to push this through to November. I just never knew how stupid they actually believed everyone to be that we would just follow along and not even question them. And yet here we are, media and social media blackout. No one is allowed to question them. Everyone following along. Karens are patrolling the food aisle with their phones in hand in case anyone doesn't comply.
I'll catch flak for this, but these aren't all or nothing measures. If this kind of stuff is applied a population, it theoretically reduces the spread. Just like a washing your hands or sneezing in your elbow.
However, its just that, theoretical. I'd worry about the loss of individual liberties this poses more than incremental benefit. Additionally, widespread adoption works better by influence rather than social shaming. The fact that wearing a mask has been reduced mandates and edicts means they no longer care about whats best, or even consent of the governed.
Certain counties in Florida require masks, certain dont...even in the ones that dont maybe 10% or less are maskless like myself and my family...I will only wear masks at work where its required(im a nurse and not on tik tok)
They want masks to instill fear. They blamed us for making masks political, but if you don't wear a mask, you get shamed and kicked out of the store. They want masks so we can't identify thugs who destroy buildings and murder innocent people.
Brothers and sisters, stock up on ammo. It's going to come to that one day, and we'll be on our own. Trump can only do so much, it seems like every major corporation is against him. Even if they are pron Trump, it's a bad move business wise to publicly admit it, for fear of being canceled or assaulted by the mob.
The mask mandate is total bullshit but what infuriates me even more is not allowing the HCQ cocktail to be prescribed to those diagnosed, or even as a prophylactic. It goes to show politics is much more important than human life to democraps, but we already knew that.
I don’t believe masks work but I wear one. Why? Because my commie governor would love to make an example of a small business by fining or revoking their license. He would never attack a large corporate store because of lawsuits. So it’s not about the virus!
Its simple, if you dont want people in YOUR business with/without a mask, post a sign and people should adhere to your request. If you go to a business that does/doesnt require/allow masks and it goes against how you FEEL, then dont go to that business.
Herd immunity is the only possible outcome for this virus, if 1% of the country has already been confirmed to have had it (who know how accurate that even is), then its safe to say WAY MORE people have it, and will continue to spread it. A vaccine will never be ready in time, at the current rate it will be a year or two before half the country has it.
Masks do help reducing the spread, but you can still catch the virus. It’s just like the recommendations about hand washing and social distancing. It’s only about reducing the rate of the spread to manageable levels.
What doesn’t work is just wearing a mask under your nose and then joining some protests packed with thousands of people. Then the whole mask thing is just pointless and only about virtue signaling.
Lol, Under the nose, Under the chin. Thin cloth ones, even the surgical masks don't do much, they don't seal. Sneeze or cough and it all comes out the side.
Also I have seen a small small number of people with full face shield. They at least account for transmission through eyes Nd I give them respect for that. But still dont think it will work.
99% of what everyone is wearing accomplishes nothing. It’s all virtue signaling that they care.
What is the exact percentage of the efficacy of the mask in preventing the spread of the Chinese virus? 0.0001%, 0.001%, 0.01%. 1.0%, 10.0%, 50.0%?
If you can empirically prove the exact percentage of the efficacy of wearing a cloth or surgical mask, you would probably win a lot more adherents to your side.
Here there were strict quarantine measures around mid March as the amount of cases was increasing uncontrollably. After the quarantine started, the virus continued increasing at the same rate for maybe around 2 weeks before hitting the peak. Shortly after reaching the peak, the quarantine measures were removed (gradually), but some things remained like wearing masks in closed spaces such as shops and public transport, and limiting the amount of people in closed spaces.
It has been already several weeks since the relaxing of the measures, and what we now see in the graph is that the amount of cases has kept around the 7000 mark. If all measures had been removed, we would have seen the curve rise dramatically instead. If the quarantine measures had been kept, the current amount of cases would probably have gotten close to zero (however such alternative is not feasible since we all need to continue with our lives).
What the graph is showing is that the masks are not completely effective (therefore the number stays hovering around 7000), however they help to prevent the uncontrolled outbreak that was seen before (although do note that this is not just about mask wearing but all recommendations in general such as hand washing, keeping distance between people in public places, or doing home office when the possibility exists).
In the end I think the key lesson is to take things in moderation. The whole situation is not black and white. This virus is not the doomsday event that some people in the media are promoting, but this is also not an irrelevant virus.
Being real for a second, most things in the world don't operate on a logical true/false basis. Probabilities and statistics are key.
Hypothetically, say global mask adoption reduces the rate of infection by 25% and lockdown measures reduce the rate of infection by an additional 25%. Ignoring the side effects of these policies, you would want to do both to minimize the rate of infection.
That's not to say we should have these policies, because obviously we must consider the side effects.
Did not recommend. I literally said hypothetically, if masks provided some benefit, it wouldn't imply the lockdowns were redundant.
Dentists recommend eating less sugar AND brushing your teeth. OP's argument is basically: if brushing your teeth works then you should be able to eat as much sugar you want, or if eating less sugar works then you shouldn't need to brush. That would be a dumbass argument - both things contribute to better oral health.
I'm simply pointing out OP's terrible logic, not assuming in favor of masks or lockdowns.
No. Unless this is a virus that's killing people at an alarming rate and isn't just a very severe cold for most people, why are we trying so hard to stop the spread? You CANNOT stop it. The best way forward is to attain herd immunity.
Fucking Purell germophobic generation. At this rate masks are never going away because people are now conditioned to believe anyone at any time can get them sick with anything simply by breathing near them.
It’s not just Democrat governors though, Republican ones are doing the same in Texas and similarly in Arizona.
Am Texan and can confirm that my sackless piece of shit governor has failed me.
Yeah and the legislature is conveniently not being called into session.
If Republican governors can make these power grabs, Democrat governors will too and probably worse.
It’s imperative that our state legislatures come back into session and check these governors. The Michigan legislature ought to be the example.
Yep, I'm very disappointed in the boy. Honestly, I thought he was different, but nope. Cowards. Every damn one of them.
The only one who isn't a coward is Noem in SD. And before anyone starts, no girls for President.
He’s been a huge puss. Lt Dan should kick his ass and take his job.
I don't even like Dan either. Fuck his red flag laws.
I wasn’t aware he supported those. If so, then I agree, fuck him too!
Disagree with that. You can't excommunicate anyone who isn't 100% on board with your agenda, else you'll have no one left to help. Even Trump banned bump-stocks. Gonna hurl yourself from the Trump train for that?
Even fucking West Virginia, man. Probably the most free state I've ever lived in and fucking Jim Justice mandated masks. The only saving grace is he said police won't be enforcing it, but stores can still deny you service.
I refuse to wear it. Last I checked I'm not living in a Muslim country where face coverings are mandatory.
Not to mention WV has had very few cases and only "93" deaths (of which I highly doubt are entirely accurate hence the quotation marks).
Cuck Baker was an early one in Massachusetts.
I'm not wearing a mask ever. If the administration doesnt defend my rights, and its November and i have to wear a mask, guess what?
Well, the alternative is Joe Biden who has already declared his support for a national mask mandate which would be worse yet.
But I do wish POTUS would flex his muscles, own the libs, and openly advocate for the side of freedom. Stay open, keep schools open, fire Fauci, no masks.
Yeah, its more of an empty threat to light a fire under his ass lol. Its really the lynchpin of all this madness. No masks and EVERYTHING, and I mean everything up to spygate, begins to fall apart.
Diapers in case you crap your pants. Bibs too. And bonnets!
Don’t lose all hope, they want you demoralized and to feel like you’re alone
Today, they won.
Today, I feel the same way as you do.
Lol what? Fuck off shill.
14 d̶a̶y̶s̶ years to flatten the curve
I had a customer nod sagely when I asked "Do you want to force people to wear face diapers until we have a vaccine."
I could have killed her. Honestly, I could have killed her at that moment.
Am I the only one noticing about half the people with masks pulled down below their noses, and nobody saying anything because deep down we all know how little control we have over catching this virus, and are beyond caring at this point.
There are those who live in fear and wear it 24/7. Those that do it because they feel it is courteous. Those who do it because they were told and maliciously comply (these are the ones that you mention). Finally those (me) who know its all a scam and refuse to wear one unless it is the store policy and I really need something from that specific store. Fucking fag DeWine is making it mandatory by county now. Guess what? I will not be going to any store in those counties. I'll just drive the extra 10 minutes to go to a different one. So sick of this shit and the idiots who go along with it
Our county has the mandate. Literally no one is following it. Love it.
I live in Canada and there has been some kind of mandate or something and all the gas stations have signs up about wearing masks and I just ignore them, walk past the hand sanitizer, grab some snacks and pay for my gas and even the people wearing masks don't say a thing because so many people do the same where I live.
I need to move. Where do you live?
I'm forcing others to do my shopping for me because I refuse to wear a face diaper. I sit in the parking lot and wait to have my groceries delivered.
I don’t trust the retards to pick out good fruit and veggies or meat for me otherwise I would do that too
I have to wear a mask in my state despite having a medical exemption that some shithead at the door of BJs thinks she's qualified to challenge.
So I wear a loose fitting bandana under my nose that just happens to slip down about 30 seconds into the store. I see others wearing a mask on their chin in the store and doing the same thing. Most people know it's bullshit.
If masks work how come after hundreds of years of high mortality rate influenza epidemics and many legitimate medical trials evaluating mask effectiveness against influenza have they not been recommended by the FDA (or any other medical body)? How come my N95 mask package explicitly states its only for dust and not even mold spores, which are 10x to 100x larger than corona virus particles? Answer: they think we're retarded.
At least 50% of the population is retarded.
More than that, unfortunately. I don't wear a mask at work (it's usually just three of us, at the moment one is away on vacation). When someone from next door came over with a mask on my coworker quickly put her mask on, but it was inside out with the blue part facing out. Moron.
I corrected a coworker who had her face diaper on with the blue on the inside. She refused to turn it around, said it was the way she was supposed to wear it.
That's the level of intelligence/awareness we're working with.
You just said it yourself. If you are showing symptoms. This is about forcing healthy people to wear masks everywhere 100% of the time.
And I'm touching my face a LOT MORE with the mask on than without it. It's fucking irritating. So more germs get on my face, and on the mask.
So ecoli is more readily spread.
I don’t allow wearing of shoes in my house for the same reason
Karen don't care nuffin' bout reality. Karen want to use force against her neighbor, so that she can feel better.
and btw, where are the randomized control trials demonstrating the effectiveness of your dumb cloth and surgical masks in a general population scenario? That's the kind of science the panic porn media insisted upon in order to prescribe "better than nothing" hydroxychloroquine with a 65 year history and billions of dosages safety record in the face of a global pandemic. Where are the randomized controlled trials that prove the effectiveness of cloth and surgical masks in a general population scenario as compared to the well known health risks to the wearer?
Here's the study that indicates people are STUPID to wear face diapers, even inside a hospital: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/
" it's the minute water droplets and other crap coming out of "
the gaping holes all around your dumb cloth or surgical mask and the unfiltered exit port of the N95 mask.
Found the reddit shill ^
A cheap mask is useless. The only one that is even remotely effective are the N95 masks. And they have to be completely over your mouth, nose, and chin and only used once. Anything else is a security blanket that is completely ineffective.
What do people do when they wear masks? They constantly touch their mask to adjust, phones, etc. How many people do you think are actually washing their masks or getting a new one after each use? If not, they are doing more harm than good. Not to mention that it inhibits your breathing.
If you're healthy and/or not actively performing surgery, there is no reason to wear a mask.
You either had COVID-1984 or will get it and will either die or recover like 99.5% of those who have contracted it. It's not going anywhere and will not be under control until we have heard immunity. It's how diseases work.
And if you're waiting for a vaccine, good luck. How well do all those flu shots work each year? Stop being scared and stand up for your liberties or stay in your home and continue cowering.
Masks are just a reminder of the deep states complete power while they fuck us in the ass and take away the end of our rights. Theyre laughing at us while the do it
Masks are the sign of a totally desperate government clueless to stop natural viruses. The government feels compelled to do something, anything.
When they don’t know what to to, forcing citizens to wear masks is their straw man to make them feel like they are doing something.
So exactly like the TSA?
Yep!
I love the logic, throw that black and white shit back at them (not racist, but the pun was intended). Your logic statement above is a perfect example of the Dem logic if the president had come out and mandated the mask waring. So, every-time they come up with shit, we need to find false logic to throw back at them. Maybe one in 100 will actually gain some traction before the RINO's shut it down....
Sorry for the rant, haven't had my coffee yet this morning.
Not wearing the face diaper to play along with this farce. Went to get an ice cream cone last night. Saw maskless people sitting inside at tables enjoying their ice cream and talking and thought cool I won’t get hassled about a mask. Wrong, lady behind the counter says we require everyone inside to wear a mask. Without hesitation, I said I’ll go outside after I get my ice cream. She just looked like it’s the first time anyone responded that way to her and filled my order. I know it’s been pointed out before but how fucking stupid is the policy of requiring masks to order in a restaurant but sitting at a table and chatting away while eating is okey doke you? I’m not sick, I’m not wearing a mask. It’s going to be my new comeback.
The logic of wearing a mask to go into a restaurant and then taking it off to eat is fucking retarded.
Tell them you have a medical condition and that's why you can't wear one. They can't discriminate against you.
I’m over 55 and asthmatic, if I had the damn flu, I’d know it! I’m just petty enough that if a store forced the issue with me, I’d ask if it’s worth losing my business forever over this. Lots of other stores that aren’t as militant about face diapers. I’m not sick and therefore not spreading any virus. Because I’m considered in the high-risk category for age and pre-existing conditions there’s no chance that I am an asymptomatic carrier. Enough of this bullshit. Really disappointed to see so many compliant sheeple.
My employer is requiring us to wear masks now after our stupid governor decided it’s time to start fining people. I don’t want to wear the mask! What do I do?
Tell them you have a medical condition.
Same issue with me. My Dept got ordered to work from home in March. In June we got the go ahead to go back to the building, in staggered shifts, face masks mandatory when not at your desk. Older workers and those with health conditions had the option to remain at home. I took that option, no point in going into the office to work in isolation when I’ve adapted to remote work. I don’t want to wear a mask to use the rest room. Disgusting.
Tell your medical professional you get sick wearing a mask because it restricts your oxygen supply, and it destroys your immune system's ability to take care of you. Also, it's a claustrophobia issue--face diapers are not a neutral thing to your brain.
You'll get a good letter just like I did, then you get to watch your employer scramble.
If they force you to wear a riot mask, like my employer did, make sure you get the kind that is a plastic shield attached to glasses frames. The one with the elastic band is like wearing a vice grip on your head.
I knew they were going to try to push this through to November. I just never knew how stupid they actually believed everyone to be that we would just follow along and not even question them. And yet here we are, media and social media blackout. No one is allowed to question them. Everyone following along. Karens are patrolling the food aisle with their phones in hand in case anyone doesn't comply.
I'll catch flak for this, but these aren't all or nothing measures. If this kind of stuff is applied a population, it theoretically reduces the spread. Just like a washing your hands or sneezing in your elbow.
However, its just that, theoretical. I'd worry about the loss of individual liberties this poses more than incremental benefit. Additionally, widespread adoption works better by influence rather than social shaming. The fact that wearing a mask has been reduced mandates and edicts means they no longer care about whats best, or even consent of the governed.
If the powers that be told us to put plastic bags over our heads, most of us would do it.
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Certain counties in Florida require masks, certain dont...even in the ones that dont maybe 10% or less are maskless like myself and my family...I will only wear masks at work where its required(im a nurse and not on tik tok)
It's easier to lie then educate with facts, logic, reasoning, science, common sense, historical precedent
If masks work, why don't they just let those at risk and those in fear wear them?
They want masks to instill fear. They blamed us for making masks political, but if you don't wear a mask, you get shamed and kicked out of the store. They want masks so we can't identify thugs who destroy buildings and murder innocent people.
Brothers and sisters, stock up on ammo. It's going to come to that one day, and we'll be on our own. Trump can only do so much, it seems like every major corporation is against him. Even if they are pron Trump, it's a bad move business wise to publicly admit it, for fear of being canceled or assaulted by the mob.
You genius.
Better writer than me.
Totally agree
Blessings to thee
(Tinfoil hats lol)
Excellent logic. :)
The mask mandate is total bullshit but what infuriates me even more is not allowing the HCQ cocktail to be prescribed to those diagnosed, or even as a prophylactic. It goes to show politics is much more important than human life to democraps, but we already knew that.
How dare you! You are using the L word, logic. Logic is not allowed in 🤡🌎 Nuff said
And we would fight for the positions as guards that get to torture and gas our neighbors.
Yes, we would. Jordan B. Peterson convinced me of that.
My neighbors have convinced me of it, too. These poor people are scared and wailing that others aren't "wearing their masks!"
The next person who says "well, it helps a little bit" is going to get my back.
Sounds good to me. Everyone in Korea wears a mask, and everything is open here.
I don’t believe masks work but I wear one. Why? Because my commie governor would love to make an example of a small business by fining or revoking their license. He would never attack a large corporate store because of lawsuits. So it’s not about the virus!
Its simple, if you dont want people in YOUR business with/without a mask, post a sign and people should adhere to your request. If you go to a business that does/doesnt require/allow masks and it goes against how you FEEL, then dont go to that business.
Herd immunity is the only possible outcome for this virus, if 1% of the country has already been confirmed to have had it (who know how accurate that even is), then its safe to say WAY MORE people have it, and will continue to spread it. A vaccine will never be ready in time, at the current rate it will be a year or two before half the country has it.
Masks do help reducing the spread, but you can still catch the virus. It’s just like the recommendations about hand washing and social distancing. It’s only about reducing the rate of the spread to manageable levels.
What doesn’t work is just wearing a mask under your nose and then joining some protests packed with thousands of people. Then the whole mask thing is just pointless and only about virtue signaling.
Lol, Under the nose, Under the chin. Thin cloth ones, even the surgical masks don't do much, they don't seal. Sneeze or cough and it all comes out the side.
Also I have seen a small small number of people with full face shield. They at least account for transmission through eyes Nd I give them respect for that. But still dont think it will work.
99% of what everyone is wearing accomplishes nothing. It’s all virtue signaling that they care.
What is the exact percentage of the efficacy of the mask in preventing the spread of the Chinese virus? 0.0001%, 0.001%, 0.01%. 1.0%, 10.0%, 50.0%?
If you can empirically prove the exact percentage of the efficacy of wearing a cloth or surgical mask, you would probably win a lot more adherents to your side.
Right now I’m in Germany and the curve here looks like this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/
Here there were strict quarantine measures around mid March as the amount of cases was increasing uncontrollably. After the quarantine started, the virus continued increasing at the same rate for maybe around 2 weeks before hitting the peak. Shortly after reaching the peak, the quarantine measures were removed (gradually), but some things remained like wearing masks in closed spaces such as shops and public transport, and limiting the amount of people in closed spaces.
It has been already several weeks since the relaxing of the measures, and what we now see in the graph is that the amount of cases has kept around the 7000 mark. If all measures had been removed, we would have seen the curve rise dramatically instead. If the quarantine measures had been kept, the current amount of cases would probably have gotten close to zero (however such alternative is not feasible since we all need to continue with our lives).
What the graph is showing is that the masks are not completely effective (therefore the number stays hovering around 7000), however they help to prevent the uncontrolled outbreak that was seen before (although do note that this is not just about mask wearing but all recommendations in general such as hand washing, keeping distance between people in public places, or doing home office when the possibility exists).
In the end I think the key lesson is to take things in moderation. The whole situation is not black and white. This virus is not the doomsday event that some people in the media are promoting, but this is also not an irrelevant virus.
Dont speak in absolutes. Its insults my intelligence. The issue is digital not binary. I dont wants masks either.
Masks help. So it's not a question of whether they work or don't work, it's somewhere in between.
They don't work 100% but they do help.
so does being not fat
They help you choke on your own exhaust.
Being real for a second, most things in the world don't operate on a logical true/false basis. Probabilities and statistics are key.
Hypothetically, say global mask adoption reduces the rate of infection by 25% and lockdown measures reduce the rate of infection by an additional 25%. Ignoring the side effects of these policies, you would want to do both to minimize the rate of infection.
That's not to say we should have these policies, because obviously we must consider the side effects.
Fuck out of here with your muzzle bullshit. Face diapers DON'T WORK!
Global mask adoption?
Found the shill. Fuck out of here
Lol, check my comment history mate. We should argue against these policies using facts, not bogus logic and feelings.
You literally recommended global mask adoption. That’s all I need to read to know what you’re about.
Did not recommend. I literally said hypothetically, if masks provided some benefit, it wouldn't imply the lockdowns were redundant.
Dentists recommend eating less sugar AND brushing your teeth. OP's argument is basically: if brushing your teeth works then you should be able to eat as much sugar you want, or if eating less sugar works then you shouldn't need to brush. That would be a dumbass argument - both things contribute to better oral health.
I'm simply pointing out OP's terrible logic, not assuming in favor of masks or lockdowns.
No commie governors have tried making it a law that you have to brush your teeth and eat less sugar.
No. Unless this is a virus that's killing people at an alarming rate and isn't just a very severe cold for most people, why are we trying so hard to stop the spread? You CANNOT stop it. The best way forward is to attain herd immunity.
Fucking Purell germophobic generation. At this rate masks are never going away because people are now conditioned to believe anyone at any time can get them sick with anything simply by breathing near them.
God fucking damnit, shut the fuck up.
It's a sad fact but people die every flu season. This hysteria about the seasonal flu is ridiculous.