Agree. And why pay teachers to sit home and garden when many parents will now have to work full time and then come home and teach their children full time? Give parents that money!
It should be the full ~$10-15k/ea or whatever is actually spent, not the amount of your taxes that goes towards schools. That's normally less (~$2-3k) because you pay in your whole life and it only pays out while you have kids in school.
There it is. Schools closed to keep parents from looking for work.
Also, the teachers might feel like standing up if they want their pay. All of a sudden the union might not look so helpful. No more teachers unions period.
I can’t think of any contemporary unions that are productive or needed. Unions mostly won all their battles many years ago, and it’s now simply illegal to treat people poorly or inhumanely in any job in America. Now they mostly seem like a pussy version of the mob, forcing you to pay protection money. This was the one time for police unions to shine, and they did fuck all.
This will, of course, cause most welfare queens to "homeschool" their children with a xbox instead of putting them into public schools. Ironically, that means inner cities will see an increase in literacy.
Federal funding only accounts for ~10% of school funding. Blue states will raise taxes or divert funding. According to Northam, Virginia will do this.
The only way to ensure a physical return to school is to pressure the governors, possibly recall them. Education is still largely a state and local function.
The reality is that many parents cannot afford to look after a child since they need to go to work and contribute the economy. Shutting down schools is a de-facto shutdown of the economy which is exactly what the ChiComms want. Good to see that the MSM is playing right into their hands as usual.
He’s not wrong. Our school system was an absolute disaster when it came to implementing the online classes. And when they did it was a joke! It was like 2 hours of work per subject for the week! And it was all a completion grade, didn’t matter if you put down 2+2=22 you passed!
Yeh I ended up giving mine extra assignments. I told them every day you’re gonna do 2 hours of online math academy, practice typing, practice your instruments extra, read for 2 hours, watch an educational video like “How Stuff Works” and gave them research topics to write papers on. It definitely helped.
I'm just teasing you, obviously you did. This is the best example of how home schooling can work. I know it was extra effort for you but you should be proud of what you were able to do for your kids.
Our district got caught with their pants down as well. In fairness, there was never any sort of planning for such an event. Nobody really knew what to do.
Our teachers decided to go a bit overboard with the assignments and required online meetings, etc. -- which led to adopting the completion grade system (they started out actually grading everything) because the parents and students were getting overwhelmed.
Well...at least they were overachievers...but it was a freaking mess. [We are a bit spoiled with having pretty decent schools, and relatively conservative ones as well -- rural area; a lot of our teachers/admin. are either natives or retired from city postings because they couldn't take it anymore.]
It happened so suddenly and with little to no guidance from the state as to what, exactly, was to be done (at least here) that I don't really blame my school for being at a loss (they really did try to do their best). It was truly a wtf moment for everybody.
It does point to some particular problems that do need to be addressed:
we have no true disaster protocol (we still don't, the draft plans for this year are full of horse shit) -- we need to develop one (yes, my husband and I wrote a letter)
the schools are way too dependent upon the state boards of education -- it is far too centralized; there needs to be more independence -- what works for Chicago will not work for DeKalb, will not work for Chester, for example (this is a future letter in the works); and waiting around for the state to do something is a bad idea -- improvise, adapt, overcome needs to be the rule
parents (not all, but far too many) are/have been far too dependent upon the schools to raise their kids and have only really demanded that they act like glorified day care...they had little to no knowledge about curriculum and policy (this may be changing at least in some areas -- I think the parents got a bit of a wake up call, I hope).
Chicago runs the ISBE and they made elearning optional because of their own low expectations for CPS students. Then they tried muscling for more devices and free internet-even though there is already discount internet for welfare recipients
That's part of the problem with education in Illinois: Chicago runs it.
IL schools will be open in the fall though -- they need to federal money.
I've often wondered what happens to all those devices -- I have a hard time believing they're used for educational purposes...it might be something to investigate (not that any journalist would).
My sister worked at an inner city school here in Ohio, and they fucked those kids over so badly. You were only allowed to do the virtual learning on a chrome book, because that’s what they use in school, but it was just “oops we’re closed now go buy a chromebook to finish the year.” So of course about 6 people did.
I don’t know if they actually tried to block people, they just said they didn’t want anyone using anything else. They also “offered” chromebooks to anyone who didn’t have one or was unable to get them, but part of my sister’s job was contacting people who placed a request to see if it was followed up on and by the end of the year she only had 5 people say “yes they got us a chromebook”
Yeah, he's wrong about on-line learning, as Khan Academy works. What doesn't work is expecting teachers to create a tool that if it works, requires a lot fewer teachers.
It would be like expecting Big Pharma to choose $10 HCQ over $1000 Remdesivir to treat Covid.
Enough of this shit. Now that people back at work and construction sites open again wife and I working twice as hard at home with kids. It's reaching near impossible levels to work with. We are working split shifts due to kids we otherwise wouldn't have to. Putting real stress and strain on a happy home.
Lazy school departments just soaking this up. BuT MaH CoViD!
Oh yes. The teachers LOVE this. They get full salary and many put in very little work each day. My nephew’s second grade teacher was not working eight hours a day. He was putting in maybe an hour. Possibly two hours, one day a week. He would assign online “worksheets” to fill out. Tell them to read books twenty minutes a day (and what about muh poor children with no access to school libraries and no books in the home)! The elementary music and phy ed teachers were MIA. Why pay them? Lay-off the teachers and pay mom and dad that money, since mom and dad are now doing the job for the teachers.
A teacher near me got accused of sexual assault 10 years after it supposedly happened. He was fired and locked up. None of the girl's classmates said they ever saw anything, and the girl had a very shaky testimony. In the end, it was a hung jury.
The guy's life was ruined over merely an accusation
Don’t be fooled. Teachers have snowballed people into thinking they are overworked and underpaid. They are huge whiners. The reality? They make a great salary and have more time off than any other profession out there.
Studies show women choose “safer” jobs than men, work less hours, I mean I could go on, but I’d have to disagree with “low pay”, they’re about to see “low pay” if federal funding gets pulled.
So much information (BETTER information) is available (and for free) on the internet.
Schools are indoctrinating children and not represented by the other sex in proportion.
It’s to help those with jobs who cannot afford to homeschool, and mandated to have “education” (not pissing on that, our literacy rates are good, relatively), but it’s like a free daycare thought camp for people who need have responsibilities during the day.
Hopefully, a lot of people, from this virus, can work from home and homeschool.
It’s more about having two months off a year to go galavanting around engaging in sex tourism and living outside of their means.
You would simply not believe the amount of women that are on their parents dime into their late twenties.
I have a date here sometime with a woman who is 25 and lives at home with her parents.
My last three exes had their rent/expenses paid for by their dads.
What was their biggest concern about dating me? I made all the money, and they didn’t want that dynamic.
If you want to see these lib women turn into conservatives, have the boomers start cutting them off. They’ll pair up and settle down very quickly once they start having to live within their means.
Teacher here. The low pay thing is a myth -- somewhat.
There are great disparities between individual teachers' pay. In my region alone we have a lot of teachers who only make about 24K a year (some make 22K) -- you're supposed to get tenure and a pay raise after 2 years, but the schools like to "fire" after year 2, wait a year, then rehire so they can start that process over and 4 years to tenure (which is shady, and I don't blame a teacher for going someplace else). We also have teachers who are making upwards of 90K due to senority and taking on extracurriculars (and they're the ones who are usually in tight with the union). The same is going on a the local colleges -- there are some profs who only take in about 50K teaching an overload; we have others that make a good 6 figures (for 2 classes).
This is of course, quite ridiculous.
For some of you, this may not seem like much, but the standard of living here is low, so even 22K (which was my usual baseline pay) isn't horrible if you're single or if married with a spouse that works for a comparable paycheck -- it puts you into the same social class as most of the populace. 90K is egregiously high; 6 figures puts you into the social "nobility" for the area (and many act like it too).
How about fuck you for generalizing and buying into the stereotype of men not being capable of nurturing young people.
How about applaud the men who go into education and make a difference. When I taught 6th grade, I was often times the FIRST male in some of their lives to ever take an interest in them and help shape how they behave and think. Male influences are important and calling people like me a paedo for working in education is moronic and insulting.
Excellent comment. I have read many comments from teachers on social media about returning to school. I have been appalled at their lack of concern for educating children. Wouldn't want most of them anywhere near my kids.
Not only that, going back to school appears to be coming with a lot of strings attached like mask wearing, symptom monitoring and potentially even contact tracing. No way our kids should have to give up their civil rights in exchange for Marxist indoctrination.
They are all bottom of the barrel sorority chicks that partied too hard in college who complain their pay is too low when they take 3-4 months off every year and don’t even write the syllabus anymore because state testing is all that is taught anymore.
Best teachers/professors I ever had were males, and it wasn’t because they were nice. They saw potential, expected more, and demanded I show for it.
Boys get fucked in their developmental years because power hungry women demand obedience from a child that has difficulty learning verbally/visually, has no outlet for physical activity, and parents drugging their child is now normative behavior.
I'm also a high school teacher (only 5 years in, though), and I agree. The remote teaching period was a hassle and was ineffective. I feel like I wasted my time while students played video games. They should just encourage the Karen parents to home school or take the already-established virtual school classes if they are so scared to come back to school. Then, class sizes would finally get reduced and the students that want to learn will be able to--win/win.
I can't argue with that. I'm glad to see young teachers having a conservative view. As you have by now realized, teaching is a balancing act. Do the right thing always and do it wisely.
Ditto on the virtual teaching and video games. Our state mandated that no zeroes could be given for any work assigned during the closure. What kid would make the decision to put down the controller and do the extra work posted? They started strong showing up for online meetings but after Spring Break everyone was just done.
Also, congratulations for staying in 5 years! Stay based, stay balanced--no one benefits from a burnt out teacher. :)
I have a few friends that are teachers, and they all hate remote teaching and want to be back in the classroom.
I also have no problem paying teachers more if it attracts smarter more competent people. I’m sure some people have a calling to teach in schools but don’t because it just doesn’t pay, so they get a corporate training job or something that pays 75-100k a year.
First, teachers do get paid well and no other profession gets that much vacation time a year. Around here, they have around four months off a year with summer off, two weeks at Christmas, a week at Spring Break, numerous holidays.
Instead of worrying about raising salaries to attract smarter people, teachers need to stop getting away with whining about how awful their pay is, as it is not true. Yet people believe it. Teachers and nurses are the biggest whiners I know. There is a website in MN where salaries of teachers were published. Most of them in our district made around $80,000 a year for eight months work. This year they left school in March and may return late August. Then they will get two weeks off at Christmas. They barely worked six months in 2020 and will get full pay. No wonder the teachers are screaming “But muh virus” because they would love to stay home and finish those home improvement projects, spend Fall at their cabins on the lake, garden, bake, walk around the lakes.
You should go to your state's education union's website. (eg OEA ohio education association) and take a look at your state's pay grade grid. After just a few years and with continuing education, teacher salaries are up there with what you mentioned, AND it's for 9 months work a year.
You should do it regardless of local school decisions, it will give your children an unmeasurable edge!
Edited to add, plus you get economies of scale with 4 kiddos, invest in a good curriculum and you can use (adapt) it for all grades. Happy to give pointers, I’ve been homeschooling for 8 years, but my eldest went off to private high school last year😔
Are you asking how homeschooling gives your child an edge? I’ll answer that, sorry if that’s not what you meant, please clarify if so.
Homeschooling bypasses all the indoctrination, if you so choose.
Homeschooling saves time and resources. No commute, no waiting around. Time spent on classroom management in schools is a colossal waste of time and teacher resources. In homeschool, you turn classroom management into character lessons
Homeschooling gives your child 100% customized learning. No struggling to keep up, or boredom when the class has to pace with the slowest students.
Homeschooling saves resources on a macro level. The state spends $18,000+ per year, per student. You would be hard pressed to spend more than $5,000 per year, per family on homeschooling. Unless you add in travel or private coaching in sports or music, which can escalate your budget. I realize this is an apples to oranges comparison, but one day (keep praying for Betsy DeVos and President Trump!🙏) I hope to see full freedom in school choice; ie, your tax dollars are fully returned to you should you bypass public “education”.
Minorities and the poor can't afford to be home schooled. They are either working, don't know the language, don't know the curriculum (you know Common Core), and/or many other reasons. Trump pushing for schools to be opened helps the minorities and the poor the most.
I'm Chinese and I know if I got homeschooled, I would have been as dumb as brick. So no, it's not racist, it's a fact that minorities and the poor needs access to schools and not online classes, which bastardized the schools. Minorities tended to be immigrants who can not speak English or have a limited understanding of it.
So the guy (you) advocating for home schooling called me an idiot for asking for a source for you to prove your claims. If that is how you want to represent homeschooling then you're doing the entire system a disservice.
I’m the source. I’ve homeschooled my children for 8 years, not good enough for you? That was hardly a lazy reply, and your comment shows your projection.
We are too smart here for your games, thanks to the homeschooling!
You're the source. Glad to hear. So tell us, what college did you graduate from, what percentage of your class, what's you're annual income. Seriously, if you want to convince the masses than tell us. If it's good we will listen brother.
And btw, I know several brilliant homeschooled colleagues, but you certainly don't sound like them you're actually one of the few that's made me doubt homeschooling.
How is your two word comment “how so?” clear that you were only asking for sources and not an opinion? And speaking of laziness, maybe you could have made a more detailed request in the first place instead of blaming the person who spent the time to at least try to answer you.
The one thing often overlooked is the cost for 1 parent to remain at home and provide the schooling. Today in America they have made that infeasible for most families.
Yes, that is a significant hurdle. I would love to see a hybrid where kids could join public or private schools for music, theater, sports, labs and such in a group, and homeschool the academics. That would allow mom at least a part time job. Many mothers have blogs or other work from home type jobs to provide extra income, but it is tough, I imagine (I’ve been sahm since marriage)
Homeschooling communities often have day-long workshops or there are lots of activities you can have your kid be a part of. It would still be difficult to structure with a job, but it isn't like you have to be with the kids 24/7. The more people choose to homeschool, which is already going up dramatically, the more these things will be
available.
That's an interesting idea. I mean, also, more work-from-home options for mothers would be feasible as well, after the reality with this COVID shit that so many jobs can easily be work from home.
I haven’t done this before. But my first thoughts would be there are advantages tailoring lessons to your specific kid, no wasting time on the kids who don’t listen, including physical activity into learning for younger children, and creating a desire to learn in your children.
I was homeschooled until high school. It turns out that when I didn’t spend all my time watching TV and learning to fit into all the latest fads, I ended up being “weird” too. I wasn’t just going through the motions of education. I found I questioned things naturally unlike the majority of those I met, who treated the objective of classes as just getting the answer. I had to learn to trust the things I learned outside of the school system instead of thinking I was inadequate for the things I missed. There was a small percentage of people who questioned things and created things, most of them went through public school, so it’s not just homeschooling that is the answer. But it certainly helps to not have all that pressure to conform. All those people were classified as “weird”. Looking at my life’s trajectory I’d say being “weird” has really paid off.
No doubt there are introverted homeschooling families that can be a bit strange. I'm not sure that kids like that do any better in public school though, because they implement damaging social coping mechanisms and tend to get bullied badly.
The majority of homeschoolers I interact with are more socially capable than other kids. They are used to being in the actual real community with typical adults. They speak up for themselves, can navigate playing with a mix of ages and have better foundational emotional attachments so their overall levels of anxiety, depression etc. are far lower.
There are plenty of public school kids who are weird too though. The problem is, they have to spend the whole day surrounded by bullies who like to target them. They don't learn to interact with people when they spend their days in fear, when they're anxious of every movement or word lest they make a "mistake" and get targeted again. Even trying to fit in and do what the cool people are doing will earn them special contempt. For 12 years, if they tried to speak to the wrong person, or sat too near someone, they were verbally abused and humiliated. You never know what the trigger is going to be, and what will set the entire class against you again. That fear and anxiety doesn't just go away when they're finally released from school. How can they know how to talk to people?
As a rep for homeschooling, how do you think being considered weird affected your socialization later in life. For example, do you work in a solitary field such as coding where social interaction doesn't matter or in a marketing or corporate capacity where social skills are necessary.
I went mainly to ps as well, and turned out ok. But I graduated from hs in 1986. Howard Zinn was not in my rural school then, but I assure you the indoctrination is everywhere now, thanks to Øbama and his common core crap.
There are many homeschooling communities that offer all sorts of social interaction opportunities for kids. Plus, parents should think critically about what a properly socialized student means. Look at history. It’s only in the last 100 or so years of humanity that children have been segmented off by age group. Socializing with 35 4th graders is not as optimal as socializing with a mixed age group, with littles to mentor, and older kids modeling the growing up process.
"Whoa guys I love homeschooling, but don't you think homeschooling would be worse than these government ran schools that teach children how evil america is and how glorious communism is? Also my kid would have never learned they are a tranny without public school I can't believe you think anything is wrong with it."
We have two young ones and found out masks will be mandatory for ours to go back. I feel like the only parent legitimately outraged about that and seriously thinking of homeschooling because of it. Our school is providing an in-person or online choice.
Smart decision. There are many programs and curricula that are specifically designed for homeschooling. Plus, you can structure your day in any way that works best for your family. True homeschooling is far easier and more efficient than remote learning, which tries to replicate the classroom at home, and doesn't work very well.
The GEOTUS has recognized us keyboard warriors. There are people who scroll here all day and the spiciest spice gets served to GEOTUS as actual policy.
Public schools teach to a curriculum that is free of religion, we must demand that they teach to a curriculum that is also free of political indoctrination.
Education is like the virus hoax: terrorism. Do as we say or no friends/job/ability to live without harassment. Total Pavlovian reward system with "grades"
Seriously read Charlotte Iserbyt's book on it. Public education is an enemy to the sovereign United States of America.
Teachers think they have the upper hand. Have even seen them discussing going on strike if forced back to work. This would be the best thing that could happen to our education system and a perfect way to move to a voucher type system where parents can choose how their children will be educated.
Avg cost for public education per student is about $12K/yr. On the high side (NY), it is over $22K/yr. That's a lot of money to waste for an "education" with the primary objective of Marxist indoctrination.
Trump, if you or anyone close to you lurk here please give the funding directly to families. Ron Paul has a home school program as well, maybe reach out to him and Thomas Woods for guidance.
I'm not sure either, I remember my grandma telling me how they were able to get the lottery in our state passed. They said that it would have to go to school's. I wonder how much that's been scraped off over the years lol. The Department of Education shouldn't be beneficiary Is my main point ya know? Common Core and all that State/ Federal BS, keep that money local and keep it in the local communities.
Non popular opinion, but some schools dont deserve funding. They teach elementary and middle marxism.
Do we really need schools anymore with the power of the internet?
These teachers are braindead too. Mouthpieces for equality and social justice when they have no clue what they are pushing. They see it as riotousness told by their masters. Yet dont think for themselves.
I totally agree. We pay fairly sizable taxes to our school district, which is a really good one. But where are all our tax dollars going if school isn’t in-session?
Oh, don’t worry, they won’t miss those free school breakfasts and lunches. Here in MN they are supplying free breakfast, lunch, and have extended it through summer. It also includes meals for weekend, too. If you need food for dinner, they have that option! They even post a menu online. I don’t understand why if we have EBT we need to have such an extensive school free meal program. Can parents not use ENT to buy food for their own children? Unbelievable all the handouts people want these days. They will drive upon a Cadillac Escalade to pick up their free lunch because they supposedly can’t afford lunch. Sell the Escalade, buy a less expensive vehicle and feed your kid!
Our district is giving parents the option of send their kids to school or doing it from home. At this point, this seems to be the best option as it leave the choice up to the parents.
then they should be fucking fired. I've been going to work everyday since this all started, if they feel they're too good to go to work, find someone who will show up.
Because administrators and teachers still need to get paid to sit on their butts while parents work full time and have to come home and teach their children full time.
Having seen the distance learning thing Mar-May... I noticed right away: Some teachers genuinely missed being in class and put a lot of extra effort into connecting as much as possible with their elementary students as a whole and individually. However, many teachers did the bare minimum. Maybe posting a assignment requirement which was Pass/Fail once a week on a class Microsoft Teams page and let the parents/kids figure it out. Any effort and upload was a PASS. They tended to treat it like a 3 month paid vacation. Seems those same people now want entire school year of that. There are some good teachers that wanna teach. Pay the teachers that wanna show up in person and teach. P1ss on the ones that wanna sit at home all day watching Judge Judy and the Price is Right.
No one wants to attend college sitting on a laptop off campus!
This is going to be like HCQ. Trump mentions how HCQ might work and then they discount the effectiveness of it and refuse to prescribe. Now he truthfully says virtual learning is terrible and they will do everything in their power to close all schools.
But seriously, why pay to attend college just to spend another semester or two sitting alone on a computer with no interaction with peers, no face to face meeting with professors? Why pay library fees, transportation fees, student activity fees for none of those services to be available for use?
Universities need to get creative and bring students back to campus.
I've been teaching every day online for more than 3 years as well as learning online. The problem is brick and mortar teachers suck at teaching online. Teaching online requires the use of different skills and requires more modern and innovative design than what these dinosaurs are likely attempting to use. As a teacher, you have to be entertaining and flexible. As a student, you have to be engaged and disciplined. In my opinion, the online learning environment is vastly superior to the brick and mortar experience. We could solve so many problems in this country by developing innovative educational products that utilize the online learning environment. China had no trouble switching to online learning during the pandemic. Why do we suck at it?
I feel bad for my children. They are all homeschooled so they have to learn, even during the summer and won't have any problems when school goes back. They never stopped. muahahahaha. Just kidding. I don't feel bad about it at all.
Really though, I hope school goes back too. It makes day trips to zoos and parks and other great places to learn a lot less busy.
That's the billion dollar question: what is to stop a school or entire district, or districts from shutting down over covid panic after the fall, even should they open full time?
I did a charter school for a year in 7th grade. I literally goofed off all year, made zero effort, and still got good grades because virtual learning is a joke unless you are a disciplined adult.
I knew a family who let the child 'home school' because he was being bullied at school. I don't know the specifics of that and if pulling the kid was appropriate, but his Mom signed up for a home school program online and the kid's responsibility was for 90 minutes of online time (done while laying down on the couch) and the rest of the time (literally all the other hours of the day he wasn't asleep or in the bathroom), he was gaming online. And then he failed at keeping even those 90 minutes sessions up and current and was kicked out of that homeschool program.
Homeschooling is only going to be as good as the discipline of the 'caregiver' over the student. You can't expect kids (tweens, particularly) to 'have' the discipline innately to succeed at these kinds of things. This is something developed through parenting.
The schools are indoctrination camps. Keep them closed. The silver lining of at home education is that parents can better scrutinize their children's exposure to propaganda.
The virtues of homeschooling are often spoken. Here's a great opportunity!
The virtual learning that was put into place was absolutely slapped together on the fly as an emergency measure that had zero time to prepare or be properly polished.
Yet despite that, my kids did much better online than they were doing in person, because they were able to just do the work without all the other garbage.
Our district has the option of going back with loads of ridiculous "safety" measures in place... or staying with online (with the option of returning to in-school at any time)...you can bet your ash we're starting with online. Let everyone else be the guinea pigs to see how the first few weeks go.
Sorry commies, if your school is only doing online classes, you don't have a right to be here. Go do your BLM protest in China. I'm sure the Chinese police will love you blocking the highways to have your LGBTQ dance party.
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I like the defunding option.
Give the money to parents for homeschooling.
Agree. And why pay teachers to sit home and garden when many parents will now have to work full time and then come home and teach their children full time? Give parents that money!
It should be the full ~$10-15k/ea or whatever is actually spent, not the amount of your taxes that goes towards schools. That's normally less (~$2-3k) because you pay in your whole life and it only pays out while you have kids in school.
Well, if we are going to get the federal money directly why not just end the property tax charade?
Non scholastic athletics is the way to go these days excepting Football in Texas and Florida and Hockey in Minnesota and Michigan.
There it is. Schools closed to keep parents from looking for work.
Also, the teachers might feel like standing up if they want their pay. All of a sudden the union might not look so helpful. No more teachers unions period.
I can’t think of any contemporary unions that are productive or needed. Unions mostly won all their battles many years ago, and it’s now simply illegal to treat people poorly or inhumanely in any job in America. Now they mostly seem like a pussy version of the mob, forcing you to pay protection money. This was the one time for police unions to shine, and they did fuck all.
This will, of course, cause most welfare queens to "homeschool" their children with a xbox instead of putting them into public schools. Ironically, that means inner cities will see an increase in literacy.
The idea so brilliant it'll never be implemented.
Learning to surf the internet properly is achkuhally a huge skill. Its what makes those of us who can do it seem like they know how to fix everything!
I'll admit your joke took me longer to get that it should have; but lol
This right here ^^^
Federal funding only accounts for ~10% of school funding. Blue states will raise taxes or divert funding. According to Northam, Virginia will do this.
The only way to ensure a physical return to school is to pressure the governors, possibly recall them. Education is still largely a state and local function.
public schools are a lefty indoctrination
The reality is that many parents cannot afford to look after a child since they need to go to work and contribute the economy. Shutting down schools is a de-facto shutdown of the economy which is exactly what the ChiComms want. Good to see that the MSM is playing right into their hands as usual.
Playing into their hands?? Lmaoooo they either own these media outlets outright or are otherwise in the same team. Media=basically CCP
He’s not wrong. Our school system was an absolute disaster when it came to implementing the online classes. And when they did it was a joke! It was like 2 hours of work per subject for the week! And it was all a completion grade, didn’t matter if you put down 2+2=22 you passed!
It was terrible. My high school son got very little out of it. Most his teachers basically just punted. It was three months of diddly squat learning.
Yeh I ended up giving mine extra assignments. I told them every day you’re gonna do 2 hours of online math academy, practice typing, practice your instruments extra, read for 2 hours, watch an educational video like “How Stuff Works” and gave them research topics to write papers on. It definitely helped.
Good parent
It's almost as if you home schooled them!?!! :)
I'm just teasing you, obviously you did. This is the best example of how home schooling can work. I know it was extra effort for you but you should be proud of what you were able to do for your kids.
Our district got caught with their pants down as well. In fairness, there was never any sort of planning for such an event. Nobody really knew what to do.
Our teachers decided to go a bit overboard with the assignments and required online meetings, etc. -- which led to adopting the completion grade system (they started out actually grading everything) because the parents and students were getting overwhelmed. Well...at least they were overachievers...but it was a freaking mess. [We are a bit spoiled with having pretty decent schools, and relatively conservative ones as well -- rural area; a lot of our teachers/admin. are either natives or retired from city postings because they couldn't take it anymore.]
We have a really good school system too with minimal BS fortunately. I think that’s what it made it more frustrating I just expected more.
It happened so suddenly and with little to no guidance from the state as to what, exactly, was to be done (at least here) that I don't really blame my school for being at a loss (they really did try to do their best). It was truly a wtf moment for everybody.
It does point to some particular problems that do need to be addressed:
Chicago runs the ISBE and they made elearning optional because of their own low expectations for CPS students. Then they tried muscling for more devices and free internet-even though there is already discount internet for welfare recipients
That's part of the problem with education in Illinois: Chicago runs it. IL schools will be open in the fall though -- they need to federal money.
I've often wondered what happens to all those devices -- I have a hard time believing they're used for educational purposes...it might be something to investigate (not that any journalist would).
My sister worked at an inner city school here in Ohio, and they fucked those kids over so badly. You were only allowed to do the virtual learning on a chrome book, because that’s what they use in school, but it was just “oops we’re closed now go buy a chromebook to finish the year.” So of course about 6 people did.
I don’t know if they actually tried to block people, they just said they didn’t want anyone using anything else. They also “offered” chromebooks to anyone who didn’t have one or was unable to get them, but part of my sister’s job was contacting people who placed a request to see if it was followed up on and by the end of the year she only had 5 people say “yes they got us a chromebook”
Yeah, he's wrong about on-line learning, as Khan Academy works. What doesn't work is expecting teachers to create a tool that if it works, requires a lot fewer teachers.
It would be like expecting Big Pharma to choose $10 HCQ over $1000 Remdesivir to treat Covid.
Enough of this shit. Now that people back at work and construction sites open again wife and I working twice as hard at home with kids. It's reaching near impossible levels to work with. We are working split shifts due to kids we otherwise wouldn't have to. Putting real stress and strain on a happy home.
Lazy school departments just soaking this up. BuT MaH CoViD!
Oh yes. The teachers LOVE this. They get full salary and many put in very little work each day. My nephew’s second grade teacher was not working eight hours a day. He was putting in maybe an hour. Possibly two hours, one day a week. He would assign online “worksheets” to fill out. Tell them to read books twenty minutes a day (and what about muh poor children with no access to school libraries and no books in the home)! The elementary music and phy ed teachers were MIA. Why pay them? Lay-off the teachers and pay mom and dad that money, since mom and dad are now doing the job for the teachers.
My local district did a bunch of surveys to parents yet ended up ignoring the PARENTS, instead going with CDC.
The board that made this decision had no parents yet alone school board members involved. Fucking outrageous.
A teacher near me got accused of sexual assault 10 years after it supposedly happened. He was fired and locked up. None of the girl's classmates said they ever saw anything, and the girl had a very shaky testimony. In the end, it was a hung jury.
The guy's life was ruined over merely an accusation
meanwhile my gym teacher literally fucked and then married his student (who then became my teacher)
It was a joke. ;)
For sure.
Why would they choose to work for such low pay?
Don’t be fooled. Teachers have snowballed people into thinking they are overworked and underpaid. They are huge whiners. The reality? They make a great salary and have more time off than any other profession out there.
Don't forget about their massive amounts of paid sick/personal/vacation days.
Let’s not forget their pensions.
Low pay? They get the summers off, mostly.
Studies show women choose “safer” jobs than men, work less hours, I mean I could go on, but I’d have to disagree with “low pay”, they’re about to see “low pay” if federal funding gets pulled.
So much information (BETTER information) is available (and for free) on the internet.
Schools are indoctrinating children and not represented by the other sex in proportion.
It’s to help those with jobs who cannot afford to homeschool, and mandated to have “education” (not pissing on that, our literacy rates are good, relatively), but it’s like a free daycare thought camp for people who need have responsibilities during the day.
Hopefully, a lot of people, from this virus, can work from home and homeschool.
Maybe that’s a positive, idk.
It’s more about having two months off a year to go galavanting around engaging in sex tourism and living outside of their means.
You would simply not believe the amount of women that are on their parents dime into their late twenties.
I have a date here sometime with a woman who is 25 and lives at home with her parents.
My last three exes had their rent/expenses paid for by their dads.
What was their biggest concern about dating me? I made all the money, and they didn’t want that dynamic.
If you want to see these lib women turn into conservatives, have the boomers start cutting them off. They’ll pair up and settle down very quickly once they start having to live within their means.
Teacher here. The low pay thing is a myth -- somewhat.
There are great disparities between individual teachers' pay. In my region alone we have a lot of teachers who only make about 24K a year (some make 22K) -- you're supposed to get tenure and a pay raise after 2 years, but the schools like to "fire" after year 2, wait a year, then rehire so they can start that process over and 4 years to tenure (which is shady, and I don't blame a teacher for going someplace else). We also have teachers who are making upwards of 90K due to senority and taking on extracurriculars (and they're the ones who are usually in tight with the union). The same is going on a the local colleges -- there are some profs who only take in about 50K teaching an overload; we have others that make a good 6 figures (for 2 classes). This is of course, quite ridiculous.
For some of you, this may not seem like much, but the standard of living here is low, so even 22K (which was my usual baseline pay) isn't horrible if you're single or if married with a spouse that works for a comparable paycheck -- it puts you into the same social class as most of the populace. 90K is egregiously high; 6 figures puts you into the social "nobility" for the area (and many act like it too).
Have you ever seen their pensions? Massive. Most can retire when they are 55. Amazing benefits. And the obvious large amount of vacation time.
Why would you want to work somewhere where your life could be ruined by some kid saying give me an A or I'll tell everyone you touched my privates.
I don't go anywhere near children. A child could be dying right in front of me and I'll just disappear. Hell no. I'm not taking a risk.
uh
How about fuck you for generalizing and buying into the stereotype of men not being capable of nurturing young people.
How about applaud the men who go into education and make a difference. When I taught 6th grade, I was often times the FIRST male in some of their lives to ever take an interest in them and help shape how they behave and think. Male influences are important and calling people like me a paedo for working in education is moronic and insulting.
Lol what retard told you this
oh ok, so you're the retard that told you it
Excellent comment. I have read many comments from teachers on social media about returning to school. I have been appalled at their lack of concern for educating children. Wouldn't want most of them anywhere near my kids.
Not only that, going back to school appears to be coming with a lot of strings attached like mask wearing, symptom monitoring and potentially even contact tracing. No way our kids should have to give up their civil rights in exchange for Marxist indoctrination.
They are all bottom of the barrel sorority chicks that partied too hard in college who complain their pay is too low when they take 3-4 months off every year and don’t even write the syllabus anymore because state testing is all that is taught anymore.
Best teachers/professors I ever had were males, and it wasn’t because they were nice. They saw potential, expected more, and demanded I show for it.
Boys get fucked in their developmental years because power hungry women demand obedience from a child that has difficulty learning verbally/visually, has no outlet for physical activity, and parents drugging their child is now normative behavior.
Boys Lives Matter
End systemic sexism
Let’s all go riot, burn stuff, and destroy what’s left of our cities now
Interesting, I have to pace to think
Everything you say is true
I'm a high school teacher, male with 30 years in. I cannot wait to get back into my classroom. Remote teaching was the absolute worst.
I'm also a high school teacher (only 5 years in, though), and I agree. The remote teaching period was a hassle and was ineffective. I feel like I wasted my time while students played video games. They should just encourage the Karen parents to home school or take the already-established virtual school classes if they are so scared to come back to school. Then, class sizes would finally get reduced and the students that want to learn will be able to--win/win.
I can't argue with that. I'm glad to see young teachers having a conservative view. As you have by now realized, teaching is a balancing act. Do the right thing always and do it wisely.
Ditto on the virtual teaching and video games. Our state mandated that no zeroes could be given for any work assigned during the closure. What kid would make the decision to put down the controller and do the extra work posted? They started strong showing up for online meetings but after Spring Break everyone was just done.
Also, congratulations for staying in 5 years! Stay based, stay balanced--no one benefits from a burnt out teacher. :)
Yeah I like the idea of giving the parents choice I teach high school that would be amazing
Online grad student during this. Can confirm, I was playing video games during the classes
You are one of the good ones, I bet.
There are more of us than you realize. We are drowned out but we're here.
We are drowned out quite a bit... sometimes by our side's "friendly fire."
I can take it because I know I am right. And I know they are right for the most part.
Your last paragraph is why the masses will take whatever vaccine is offered as soon as possible.
Push my name. I'm 100% based.
I have a few friends that are teachers, and they all hate remote teaching and want to be back in the classroom.
I also have no problem paying teachers more if it attracts smarter more competent people. I’m sure some people have a calling to teach in schools but don’t because it just doesn’t pay, so they get a corporate training job or something that pays 75-100k a year.
First, teachers do get paid well and no other profession gets that much vacation time a year. Around here, they have around four months off a year with summer off, two weeks at Christmas, a week at Spring Break, numerous holidays.
Instead of worrying about raising salaries to attract smarter people, teachers need to stop getting away with whining about how awful their pay is, as it is not true. Yet people believe it. Teachers and nurses are the biggest whiners I know. There is a website in MN where salaries of teachers were published. Most of them in our district made around $80,000 a year for eight months work. This year they left school in March and may return late August. Then they will get two weeks off at Christmas. They barely worked six months in 2020 and will get full pay. No wonder the teachers are screaming “But muh virus” because they would love to stay home and finish those home improvement projects, spend Fall at their cabins on the lake, garden, bake, walk around the lakes.
You should go to your state's education union's website. (eg OEA ohio education association) and take a look at your state's pay grade grid. After just a few years and with continuing education, teacher salaries are up there with what you mentioned, AND it's for 9 months work a year.
9 months per year with an extra month of paid time off.
My Wifes a Teacher and her and he co-workers want to get back into the class room.
I have 4 kids still in school. We've already decided that if its virtual, we're pulling them out and home schooling.
You should do it regardless of local school decisions, it will give your children an unmeasurable edge!
Edited to add, plus you get economies of scale with 4 kiddos, invest in a good curriculum and you can use (adapt) it for all grades. Happy to give pointers, I’ve been homeschooling for 8 years, but my eldest went off to private high school last year😔
How so?
Are you asking how homeschooling gives your child an edge? I’ll answer that, sorry if that’s not what you meant, please clarify if so.
Homeschooling bypasses all the indoctrination, if you so choose.
Homeschooling saves time and resources. No commute, no waiting around. Time spent on classroom management in schools is a colossal waste of time and teacher resources. In homeschool, you turn classroom management into character lessons
Homeschooling gives your child 100% customized learning. No struggling to keep up, or boredom when the class has to pace with the slowest students.
Homeschooling saves resources on a macro level. The state spends $18,000+ per year, per student. You would be hard pressed to spend more than $5,000 per year, per family on homeschooling. Unless you add in travel or private coaching in sports or music, which can escalate your budget. I realize this is an apples to oranges comparison, but one day (keep praying for Betsy DeVos and President Trump!🙏) I hope to see full freedom in school choice; ie, your tax dollars are fully returned to you should you bypass public “education”.
Minorities and the poor can't afford to be home schooled. They are either working, don't know the language, don't know the curriculum (you know Common Core), and/or many other reasons. Trump pushing for schools to be opened helps the minorities and the poor the most.
Kinda racist to just assume that visible minorities don't make money, especially when asian americans make the most
I'm Chinese and I know if I got homeschooled, I would have been as dumb as brick. So no, it's not racist, it's a fact that minorities and the poor needs access to schools and not online classes, which bastardized the schools. Minorities tended to be immigrants who can not speak English or have a limited understanding of it.
why would they come here if they don't even speak english
Cite your source bro. Didn't ask for an opinion. All these late joining redditors are lazy as fuck and it's getting old.
Idiot. You didn’t ask for a data based answer with sources easier. Your question was, and I quite, “how so?”
Not exactly a clear and specific question.
So the guy (you) advocating for home schooling called me an idiot for asking for a source for you to prove your claims. If that is how you want to represent homeschooling then you're doing the entire system a disservice.
Good representation of homeschool parenting bro.
I don’t give a shit about homeschooling or not.
I’m calling you an idiot because you were rude to someone for a stupid reason.
Idiot.
You shouldn't home school then if you need sources as "proof".
What do you need sources for?
The $18,000+ per year per public school student?
The cost of homeschooling resources? That's variable and it depends a lot on how you decide to implement things.
Personally, if I was going to home school (no kids so don't have to worry about this), I'd purchase a set of McGuffey Readers as a top priority.
I’m the source. I’ve homeschooled my children for 8 years, not good enough for you? That was hardly a lazy reply, and your comment shows your projection.
We are too smart here for your games, thanks to the homeschooling!
You're the source. Glad to hear. So tell us, what college did you graduate from, what percentage of your class, what's you're annual income. Seriously, if you want to convince the masses than tell us. If it's good we will listen brother.
And btw, I know several brilliant homeschooled colleagues, but you certainly don't sound like them you're actually one of the few that's made me doubt homeschooling.
Wtf is your problem, dude?
You can't even write a grammatically correct sentence.
It's clear public schools have failed you.
How is your two word comment “how so?” clear that you were only asking for sources and not an opinion? And speaking of laziness, maybe you could have made a more detailed request in the first place instead of blaming the person who spent the time to at least try to answer you.
The one thing often overlooked is the cost for 1 parent to remain at home and provide the schooling. Today in America they have made that infeasible for most families.
Yes, that is a significant hurdle. I would love to see a hybrid where kids could join public or private schools for music, theater, sports, labs and such in a group, and homeschool the academics. That would allow mom at least a part time job. Many mothers have blogs or other work from home type jobs to provide extra income, but it is tough, I imagine (I’ve been sahm since marriage)
Homeschooling communities often have day-long workshops or there are lots of activities you can have your kid be a part of. It would still be difficult to structure with a job, but it isn't like you have to be with the kids 24/7. The more people choose to homeschool, which is already going up dramatically, the more these things will be available.
That's an interesting idea. I mean, also, more work-from-home options for mothers would be feasible as well, after the reality with this COVID shit that so many jobs can easily be work from home.
Look at this faggot treating online comments like they're fucking term papers. Comments don't need foot notes. Learn to use Duck Duck Go.
Again with personal attacks and then you come up with calling people "faggot". Apparently homeschool has done wonders for your intellect and class.
I haven’t done this before. But my first thoughts would be there are advantages tailoring lessons to your specific kid, no wasting time on the kids who don’t listen, including physical activity into learning for younger children, and creating a desire to learn in your children.
I was homeschooled until high school. It turns out that when I didn’t spend all my time watching TV and learning to fit into all the latest fads, I ended up being “weird” too. I wasn’t just going through the motions of education. I found I questioned things naturally unlike the majority of those I met, who treated the objective of classes as just getting the answer. I had to learn to trust the things I learned outside of the school system instead of thinking I was inadequate for the things I missed. There was a small percentage of people who questioned things and created things, most of them went through public school, so it’s not just homeschooling that is the answer. But it certainly helps to not have all that pressure to conform. All those people were classified as “weird”. Looking at my life’s trajectory I’d say being “weird” has really paid off.
Excellent, insider response! Just because society views drooling over a screen and dopamine addiction as normal, does not mean it’s best!
Top comment! ^
Some of my friends home school their kids and I've found the complete opposite to be true.
They're definitely not normal, but that's because they are encouraged to focus on their passions and the things that make them unique individuals.
They are able to communicate very effectively and participate in athletics (gymnastics, soccer, swimming) so they're not completely isolated.
No doubt there are introverted homeschooling families that can be a bit strange. I'm not sure that kids like that do any better in public school though, because they implement damaging social coping mechanisms and tend to get bullied badly.
The majority of homeschoolers I interact with are more socially capable than other kids. They are used to being in the actual real community with typical adults. They speak up for themselves, can navigate playing with a mix of ages and have better foundational emotional attachments so their overall levels of anxiety, depression etc. are far lower.
https://responsiblehomeschooling.org/research/summaries/homeschooling-socialization/
There are plenty of public school kids who are weird too though. The problem is, they have to spend the whole day surrounded by bullies who like to target them. They don't learn to interact with people when they spend their days in fear, when they're anxious of every movement or word lest they make a "mistake" and get targeted again. Even trying to fit in and do what the cool people are doing will earn them special contempt. For 12 years, if they tried to speak to the wrong person, or sat too near someone, they were verbally abused and humiliated. You never know what the trigger is going to be, and what will set the entire class against you again. That fear and anxiety doesn't just go away when they're finally released from school. How can they know how to talk to people?
As a rep for homeschooling, how do you think being considered weird affected your socialization later in life. For example, do you work in a solitary field such as coding where social interaction doesn't matter or in a marketing or corporate capacity where social skills are necessary.
spez: upvote for you're anticipated answer.
I went mainly to ps as well, and turned out ok. But I graduated from hs in 1986. Howard Zinn was not in my rural school then, but I assure you the indoctrination is everywhere now, thanks to Øbama and his common core crap.
There are many homeschooling communities that offer all sorts of social interaction opportunities for kids. Plus, parents should think critically about what a properly socialized student means. Look at history. It’s only in the last 100 or so years of humanity that children have been segmented off by age group. Socializing with 35 4th graders is not as optimal as socializing with a mixed age group, with littles to mentor, and older kids modeling the growing up process.
"I met this one homeschooled kid and he was weird so all homeschooled children must be retarded"
Yeah school shootings never happen faggot.
"Whoa guys I love homeschooling, but don't you think homeschooling would be worse than these government ran schools that teach children how evil america is and how glorious communism is? Also my kid would have never learned they are a tranny without public school I can't believe you think anything is wrong with it."
"It's what happens the other sixteen hours of the day that really matter."
And eight of those hours were sleeping...
We have two young ones and found out masks will be mandatory for ours to go back. I feel like the only parent legitimately outraged about that and seriously thinking of homeschooling because of it. Our school is providing an in-person or online choice.
Masks are uncomfortable after 20 minutes, couldn't imagine an entire days worth.
Who comes up with these ridiculous guidelines.
The Face Diaper Gestapo
Social Engineers
Petition the school board. It takes action to combat tyranny!
The sad thing is, our county health officials are calling all the shots. It’s pretty upsetting.
God bless you. I have 1 child (2 months old) and I’m starting to realize that folks with 4 kids like yourself are superheros.
Those are rookie numbers. Gotta bump it up.
Infants are hard. It gets easier, for the most part, when they get older. And more fun, too!
Don't wait, start homeschooling now!
Smart decision. There are many programs and curricula that are specifically designed for homeschooling. Plus, you can structure your day in any way that works best for your family. True homeschooling is far easier and more efficient than remote learning, which tries to replicate the classroom at home, and doesn't work very well.
It's like The Donald browses thedonald!
The GEOTUS has recognized us keyboard warriors. There are people who scroll here all day and the spiciest spice gets served to GEOTUS as actual policy.
Hardly. FFS.
We need to make sure the BLM and communism curriculum is removed too.
Public schools teach to a curriculum that is free of religion, we must demand that they teach to a curriculum that is also free of political indoctrination.
Good luck with that. All societies need religion. And funny how AmericA starts going to shut when Christianity was removed from the classrooms.
Totally agree with you !
Have you see the LGBTQIA curriculum? Got to read the book about having two dads to kindergarten students, you know
oN wHaT aUtHoRiITy?!
Reeeee! Fascist!
Yes!
DEFUND PUBLIC EDUCATION ENTIRELY
Bunch of leftism, sexual assault, and tyranny.
Education is like the virus hoax: terrorism. Do as we say or no friends/job/ability to live without harassment. Total Pavlovian reward system with "grades"
Seriously read Charlotte Iserbyt's book on it. Public education is an enemy to the sovereign United States of America.
READ THE BOOK, TEAM TRUMP http://deliberatedumbingdown.com/ddd/deliberate-dumbing-down/
This book changed my LIFE. and unraveled why the school and university system left me so bereft, depressed, confused, and suicidal.
Now it's live long, live free, and MAGA! Happy ending.
tldr public education sucks and should be defunded anyway.
I’m sure it’s soo much more rampant than we realize nationwide. It’s the perfect cover and hunting grounds for pedos
Big fan of that book.
Agreed, I wish GEOTUS would create an initiative to audit schools & defund those that fall below standard. Time to clean up shop!
Teachers think they have the upper hand. Have even seen them discussing going on strike if forced back to work. This would be the best thing that could happen to our education system and a perfect way to move to a voucher type system where parents can choose how their children will be educated.
Avg cost for public education per student is about $12K/yr. On the high side (NY), it is over $22K/yr. That's a lot of money to waste for an "education" with the primary objective of Marxist indoctrination.
That's a lot of money when you think about each class having an average of 30 kids.
Insane amounts of money per classroom. The lions share going to administration and union dealings, ridiculous.
Trump, if you or anyone close to you lurk here please give the funding directly to families. Ron Paul has a home school program as well, maybe reach out to him and Thomas Woods for guidance.
I'm not sure either, I remember my grandma telling me how they were able to get the lottery in our state passed. They said that it would have to go to school's. I wonder how much that's been scraped off over the years lol. The Department of Education shouldn't be beneficiary Is my main point ya know? Common Core and all that State/ Federal BS, keep that money local and keep it in the local communities.
What state? "The lottery" is often sold as a panacea like that.
Yes please Mr.President!
Non popular opinion, but some schools dont deserve funding. They teach elementary and middle marxism.
Do we really need schools anymore with the power of the internet?
These teachers are braindead too. Mouthpieces for equality and social justice when they have no clue what they are pushing. They see it as riotousness told by their masters. Yet dont think for themselves.
It sickes me how easily controlled people are.
Just give the money to homeschooling parents. All of a sudden the libtards will want kids and planned Parenthood will take a hit
I totally agree. We pay fairly sizable taxes to our school district, which is a really good one. But where are all our tax dollars going if school isn’t in-session?
The teachers still get paid.
Salaries and benefits for administration and teachers
Oh, don’t worry, they won’t miss those free school breakfasts and lunches. Here in MN they are supplying free breakfast, lunch, and have extended it through summer. It also includes meals for weekend, too. If you need food for dinner, they have that option! They even post a menu online. I don’t understand why if we have EBT we need to have such an extensive school free meal program. Can parents not use ENT to buy food for their own children? Unbelievable all the handouts people want these days. They will drive upon a Cadillac Escalade to pick up their free lunch because they supposedly can’t afford lunch. Sell the Escalade, buy a less expensive vehicle and feed your kid!
That problem came up and was addressed months ago--but it's another issue, it shouldn't be tied to schools so much.
Our district is giving parents the option of send their kids to school or doing it from home. At this point, this seems to be the best option as it leave the choice up to the parents.
Till all the teachers and staff don't show up because they deem it not safe
then they should be fucking fired. I've been going to work everyday since this all started, if they feel they're too good to go to work, find someone who will show up.
Precisely.
If people can work at Walmart through the entire pandemic, they can certainly ha e teachers back in the classrooms.
Why would citizens pay school taxes if the schools are closed?
Because administrators and teachers still need to get paid to sit on their butts while parents work full time and have to come home and teach their children full time.
This just in, All Schools will now be open on Fall the 1st.
Having seen the distance learning thing Mar-May... I noticed right away: Some teachers genuinely missed being in class and put a lot of extra effort into connecting as much as possible with their elementary students as a whole and individually. However, many teachers did the bare minimum. Maybe posting a assignment requirement which was Pass/Fail once a week on a class Microsoft Teams page and let the parents/kids figure it out. Any effort and upload was a PASS. They tended to treat it like a 3 month paid vacation. Seems those same people now want entire school year of that. There are some good teachers that wanna teach. Pay the teachers that wanna show up in person and teach. P1ss on the ones that wanna sit at home all day watching Judge Judy and the Price is Right.
big brain moment, SJWs much shock
No school funding?
No school taxes!
Yup. Why you need federal funding for a Zoom Room?
No one wants to attend college sitting on a laptop off campus!
This is going to be like HCQ. Trump mentions how HCQ might work and then they discount the effectiveness of it and refuse to prescribe. Now he truthfully says virtual learning is terrible and they will do everything in their power to close all schools.
But seriously, why pay to attend college just to spend another semester or two sitting alone on a computer with no interaction with peers, no face to face meeting with professors? Why pay library fees, transportation fees, student activity fees for none of those services to be available for use?
Universities need to get creative and bring students back to campus.
I've been teaching every day online for more than 3 years as well as learning online. The problem is brick and mortar teachers suck at teaching online. Teaching online requires the use of different skills and requires more modern and innovative design than what these dinosaurs are likely attempting to use. As a teacher, you have to be entertaining and flexible. As a student, you have to be engaged and disciplined. In my opinion, the online learning environment is vastly superior to the brick and mortar experience. We could solve so many problems in this country by developing innovative educational products that utilize the online learning environment. China had no trouble switching to online learning during the pandemic. Why do we suck at it?
Doesn’t the house control the money though? The senate RINOs have done nothing to support our POTUS.
Private school admins should prepare for bigger classes. This could be the best recruiting opportunity in a generation.
Catholic schools in MN already announced up and running in person this school year,
I feel bad for my children. They are all homeschooled so they have to learn, even during the summer and won't have any problems when school goes back. They never stopped. muahahahaha. Just kidding. I don't feel bad about it at all.
Really though, I hope school goes back too. It makes day trips to zoos and parks and other great places to learn a lot less busy.
That's the billion dollar question: what is to stop a school or entire district, or districts from shutting down over covid panic after the fall, even should they open full time?
I am just waiting for everyone to pay college tuition bills and then be told “Psych! Suckers!” and it will all be online
I did a charter school for a year in 7th grade. I literally goofed off all year, made zero effort, and still got good grades because virtual learning is a joke unless you are a disciplined adult.
I can see this.
I knew a family who let the child 'home school' because he was being bullied at school. I don't know the specifics of that and if pulling the kid was appropriate, but his Mom signed up for a home school program online and the kid's responsibility was for 90 minutes of online time (done while laying down on the couch) and the rest of the time (literally all the other hours of the day he wasn't asleep or in the bathroom), he was gaming online. And then he failed at keeping even those 90 minutes sessions up and current and was kicked out of that homeschool program.
Homeschooling is only going to be as good as the discipline of the 'caregiver' over the student. You can't expect kids (tweens, particularly) to 'have' the discipline innately to succeed at these kinds of things. This is something developed through parenting.
attacking teacher pay and calling them all "lazy" is a really stupid position to take
Why does the Federal government fund schools in the first place. that is solely a local/state issue. The NEA should be abolished.
/r/stupidtax
FUND THE PARENTS
Fix the schools first or either version of "learning" is a waste of time and nothing more than indoctrination.
The schools are indoctrination camps. Keep them closed. The silver lining of at home education is that parents can better scrutinize their children's exposure to propaganda.
The virtues of homeschooling are often spoken. Here's a great opportunity!
The way the Left will spin it: “Trump is taking away school funding because most of the public school kids are black.”
Does that mean we get a tax break for it?
IT WON'T!!!
BAAAAHAHAHAHA
I really don't know what he's talking about.
The virtual learning that was put into place was absolutely slapped together on the fly as an emergency measure that had zero time to prepare or be properly polished.
Yet despite that, my kids did much better online than they were doing in person, because they were able to just do the work without all the other garbage.
Our district has the option of going back with loads of ridiculous "safety" measures in place... or staying with online (with the option of returning to in-school at any time)...you can bet your ash we're starting with online. Let everyone else be the guinea pigs to see how the first few weeks go.
(((Teachers' union autistic screeching intensifies)))
Give us, the working public, the funding instead =w= I'll use it to buy a zine setup and print history books
His thumbnail image looks extra-disgusted by the idea of not opening the schools up in the Fall!
It’s amazing how it needs to be said that if someone doesn’t want to work, they aren’t getting paid!
No point in funding t hem. Give it to the new charter schools that no doubt will crop up.
Sorry commies, if your school is only doing online classes, you don't have a right to be here. Go do your BLM protest in China. I'm sure the Chinese police will love you blocking the highways to have your LGBTQ dance party.