Fact is, no matter what, they only really desire an existence of lawlessness and the freedom to run amok with no accountability. Problem with that throughout world history is when they are able to remove the structure, processes, and people that allow civility and productivity to exist the feral mind doesn't have the ability to solve problems and find solutions. There's never any planning or working together towards a common goal. Instead they put all their effort into brutalizing the neighbor that has more.