NPC: "But a HC reform bill which the largest health insurers endorse is surely a win for the people!"
ACA is just an excuse for them to up the risk premium on a larger pool of subscribers. Completely fucked everyone that was paying insurance while changing nothing fundamental for those without coverage previously. Last time I checked it's always been illegal to deny citizens in this country access to basic life-sustaining care. Such bull shit!
I'm Californian. Most of the people who have been here since children don't see any real problem with the taxes and assume that's just how it is. Socialism has normalized ridiculous taxes and big tyrannical government. They can't even process that there was a time with no income tax, social security, and all this other crap. They don't even realize that gas was hovering around $2 almost everywhere while it was $4 here. We can't let them establish normalcy and apathy toward this crap.
For sure. Taxation is theft. Corrupt politicians are taking that money and giving it to lazy people, people who aren't even American, and keeping some for themselves. Then we need to request a small portion of that money if we ever get into trouble when we could just have that money and not get into that financial trouble.
As someone who has a McDonald's bullshit job. I don't want gov. health care gov. wellfair or food stamps nor would will I take them. I bust my ass when at work, I want more hours when i am not at work. I see plenty of lay abouts $1,000+ in food stamps who are buying soda candy and chips. By the way, I am 6 feet 158 lbs of push up, sit up, pull up, marathon running, and ass kicking mother fucker. If I become absolutely Desperate I'll join the marines.
Side note related to the above: at the time ACA was passed, about one-third of the uninsured were making more than $50,000 a year. Obviously those people could afford it; the reason they didn't have insurance was because they didn't WANT it.
And I understand why they didn't want it. I've been through the insurance system once; it sucks biblical ass. The only reason you would FORCE people to get health insurance is if you hate them and wish them to suffer. If liberals really wanted to reform health care, they could have made it about actual CARE. They could have skipped the middleman completely.
After Obamacare passed, I gladly gamed the system, got on Medicaid, and paid ZERO a month. I want Obama to know that. I want him to know that I didn't pay a dime into his "reform".
That is by design. They wanted the healthy to fund the sick. That is why they put in the mandate. It is also why Roberts called the mandate a tax rather than an unconstitutional requirement to purchase insurance.
I had excellent insurance until Obama. And I was going through chemo treatments at the time. I ended up paying double what I was for shittier insurance ANDDDD didn’t get to keep my doctor. I have every reason to hate that fuckin piece of shit. But when I say i hate him I’m called racist almost every time. If I was an evil person I’d wish the same situation on these people but I’m not. I wouldn’t want to see anyone get sick like that. But back to the point he lied and he fucked up a lot of people’s lives with no repercussions. Thanks Obama! 🖕🏼
That was his job! Come in and INFILTRATE his ugly half Kenyan ass into our country and fundamentally TRANSFORM America into a Muslim brotherhood socialist SHITHOLE!
As a woman even the very healthy have to see a gyn doc every year for cancer screening starting when u become sexually active. I started at 14 due to feminine issues related to my uterus. At age 39 you add yearly mammograms to the list. If it wasn't for pap smears n mamos I would NEVER be at the docs! We pay 2400 a year for insurance w a 4000.00 deductible. Before Obamacare we paid 1200 a year w no deductible! This year I needed 2 needle biopsies on my breast. Both negative but it cost us over 3 grand! W my old Cadillac insurance it would have cost me 200.00 for each biopsy! Thanks Oblubber!
I hear you my wife does health insurance one guy and his wife now pay 7000 a year and there is a 16000 dollar deductible before it starts paying God help them if the get sick their ruined financially The plan that had was a dream Compared to this one
NPC: "But a HC reform bill which the largest health insurers endorse is surely a win for the people!"
ACA is just an excuse for them to up the risk premium on a larger pool of subscribers. Completely fucked everyone that was paying insurance while changing nothing fundamental for those without coverage previously. Last time I checked it's always been illegal to deny citizens in this country access to basic life-sustaining care. Such bull shit!
I'm Californian. Most of the people who have been here since children don't see any real problem with the taxes and assume that's just how it is. Socialism has normalized ridiculous taxes and big tyrannical government. They can't even process that there was a time with no income tax, social security, and all this other crap. They don't even realize that gas was hovering around $2 almost everywhere while it was $4 here. We can't let them establish normalcy and apathy toward this crap.
I would never need any government “help” if I could keep the 50% they keep from my income and the 9% on everything I buy.
For sure. Taxation is theft. Corrupt politicians are taking that money and giving it to lazy people, people who aren't even American, and keeping some for themselves. Then we need to request a small portion of that money if we ever get into trouble when we could just have that money and not get into that financial trouble.
Oh so most of Californians are stupid sleeping sheep?
We're paying about $27k/year, family of 4.
Jfc
It's f'd up.
Wow!
Isn't it cheaper just to put that money aside and pay everything cash?
The leftist stance on your post would actually be:
"If you're paying $27k/yr just for health insurance and can afford it, that means you're basically a millionaire anyway. Eat the rich."
The reason is simple. 50% of the country doesn't work. Of the 50% who do work, a large portion has McDonalds bullshit jobs and pay no real taxes.
This means you're paying for several people to have insurance.
My insurance was $0 before Obamacare, my employer paid all of it. Now I pay a few thousand.
If I'm going to pay thousands for slothful losers to have health care, they need to be at my house cutting the grass, painting, cooking. Something.
As someone who has a McDonald's bullshit job. I don't want gov. health care gov. wellfair or food stamps nor would will I take them. I bust my ass when at work, I want more hours when i am not at work. I see plenty of lay abouts $1,000+ in food stamps who are buying soda candy and chips. By the way, I am 6 feet 158 lbs of push up, sit up, pull up, marathon running, and ass kicking mother fucker. If I become absolutely Desperate I'll join the marines.
Don't look at as being desperate. Look at it as an investment in your future.
Side note related to the above: at the time ACA was passed, about one-third of the uninsured were making more than $50,000 a year. Obviously those people could afford it; the reason they didn't have insurance was because they didn't WANT it.
And I understand why they didn't want it. I've been through the insurance system once; it sucks biblical ass. The only reason you would FORCE people to get health insurance is if you hate them and wish them to suffer. If liberals really wanted to reform health care, they could have made it about actual CARE. They could have skipped the middleman completely.
Paying for you, your father and the Mexican. Feels good, right?
$5000/yr to a company whose business model it is to figure out ways not to pay.
Obama pushed a lot of your money into the failure fund, for people and their children that will never have a job.
Stop paying it
Well at least you have your health.
$75 a month here.
After Obamacare passed, I gladly gamed the system, got on Medicaid, and paid ZERO a month. I want Obama to know that. I want him to know that I didn't pay a dime into his "reform".
It was designed to be divisive and collapse on itself.
Exactly. Designed to fail so they could bring about something even worse.
That is by design. They wanted the healthy to fund the sick. That is why they put in the mandate. It is also why Roberts called the mandate a tax rather than an unconstitutional requirement to purchase insurance.
I just paid the fines for three years. $2,100 paid for goods or services not rendered.
FUCKING Obama! I hope they hang that MOTHER FUCKER THREE TIMES
I had excellent insurance until Obama. And I was going through chemo treatments at the time. I ended up paying double what I was for shittier insurance ANDDDD didn’t get to keep my doctor. I have every reason to hate that fuckin piece of shit. But when I say i hate him I’m called racist almost every time. If I was an evil person I’d wish the same situation on these people but I’m not. I wouldn’t want to see anyone get sick like that. But back to the point he lied and he fucked up a lot of people’s lives with no repercussions. Thanks Obama! 🖕🏼
That was his job! Come in and INFILTRATE his ugly half Kenyan ass into our country and fundamentally TRANSFORM America into a Muslim brotherhood socialist SHITHOLE!
Republicans warned about this in 2008. They were called liars.
Not all of us have goldfish-tier memories.
Lucky. I pay $24,000 a year in health insurance premiums. That equals $12/ hour.
As a woman even the very healthy have to see a gyn doc every year for cancer screening starting when u become sexually active. I started at 14 due to feminine issues related to my uterus. At age 39 you add yearly mammograms to the list. If it wasn't for pap smears n mamos I would NEVER be at the docs! We pay 2400 a year for insurance w a 4000.00 deductible. Before Obamacare we paid 1200 a year w no deductible! This year I needed 2 needle biopsies on my breast. Both negative but it cost us over 3 grand! W my old Cadillac insurance it would have cost me 200.00 for each biopsy! Thanks Oblubber!
The outrageously expensive deductible is what kills me.
You are getting a bargain.
I hear you my wife does health insurance one guy and his wife now pay 7000 a year and there is a 16000 dollar deductible before it starts paying God help them if the get sick their ruined financially The plan that had was a dream Compared to this one
LIAR! You saved an average of $2,500 per family. zer0maba said so.
😂😂you want your money back from the government. No refunds isn’t just a Bernie meme.