No one ever wants to go to china. But sometimes they have to for business or whatever. I just want to warn all frens not to go or you could wake up in a pit next to winning the pooh
Honestly I've always wanted to go just to china and parts of Europe just to see the countries, experience different cultures of the world. Over the past 5 years I no longer want to visit those countries. Thanks for the warnings.
Visiting China and Europe taught me so much about how good America is.
I expected to be overwhelmed by China and realize they were going to overtake the US. I visited Shanghai and in their largest mall their escalator banks were all screwed up meaning the people going up/down had to shift from the right side to the left before getting on the next bank of escalators. Just now a real deep understanding of fire to do things right. This was omnipresent.
In Europe we spent all day on trains to get to some church that my European family wanted to see. After hours and hours of travel we were on a bus that broke down probably 2 miles from the church. We could see it. The bus just offloaded us and left everyone to fend for themselves. They decided just to go back home. I couldn't understand accepting failure like that. Get an Uber. Finish the job. I didn't even care about the church but let's do this. Then go home. But instead they just sit at train stations smoking, waiting for the late mass transit.
I was choosing between Shenzhen and eastern Europe for school abroad. (Cheaper to go). I chose Eastern Europe. I shudder to think of the other timeline I went to school in China
Best advice on this is if you want to experience traditional Chinese culture (Confucianism, Taoism) go to Taiwan. The people are way friendlier and you don't have to worry about the CCP.
It's a very neat place, I'd love to be able to visit again some day, but even a decade ago it was extremely dangerous. I'm hoping the younger generations will turn things around over there- there's a lot of discontent with the Party over censorship, harsh punishments, and the little problem of 30 million more men than women in the millenial generation.
If you’re white the danger is less as China likes to focus on arresting Asian Americans, especially Chinese Americans when they return to China. Went with a dude that said he looks like he’s from HK and he was strongly considering cancelling his trip just because of the danger of looking like a HK native.
At least at the moment China knows they need to rely on America to keep getting manufacturing, so they tread carefully but it may not always be the case.
Indeed. I had to be careful about which restaurants/street vendors were OK to eat at, but generally a simple sniff test takes care of that. A decade later I still get cravings for soup from the little Ma La Tang shop near my appartment, grilled leeks from the grill run by a little old lady just outside the school every evening during the week, and the Xiao LongBao from the dumpling place on campus.
The Great Wall and other historic/cultural sites. That’s the history buff in me though. The sane person in me says I’ll just read about it. Unfortunately Great Wall, Pyramids, Hagia Sophia and a few others are just too dangerous to go see.
Hagia Sophia is safe to go see. I was there in January . Istanbul is a very modern, developed city rich in cultural heritage and very conservative ideals . It actually seemed like a rare occasion of peace and equality between the diverse cultures . Thanks to American influence in the media, new generations no longer doubt what a functional society actually looks like and I'm sure certain political waves and ideologies will be die at the feet of the young and upcoming generations . Much like the burka in France . Teen girls of Muslim/Arab families no longer see the need value of the burka and are proud to embrace showing off their bodies as they wish . Another tradition that will die with aging generations
Can’t think of one reason why anyone would want to
No one ever wants to go to china. But sometimes they have to for business or whatever. I just want to warn all frens not to go or you could wake up in a pit next to winning the pooh
Honestly I've always wanted to go just to china and parts of Europe just to see the countries, experience different cultures of the world. Over the past 5 years I no longer want to visit those countries. Thanks for the warnings.
Go to Europe. It's supposedly as good as the US. You'll see it isn't. And then you can skip the chances of dying in a country with no law
Visiting China and Europe taught me so much about how good America is.
I expected to be overwhelmed by China and realize they were going to overtake the US. I visited Shanghai and in their largest mall their escalator banks were all screwed up meaning the people going up/down had to shift from the right side to the left before getting on the next bank of escalators. Just now a real deep understanding of fire to do things right. This was omnipresent.
In Europe we spent all day on trains to get to some church that my European family wanted to see. After hours and hours of travel we were on a bus that broke down probably 2 miles from the church. We could see it. The bus just offloaded us and left everyone to fend for themselves. They decided just to go back home. I couldn't understand accepting failure like that. Get an Uber. Finish the job. I didn't even care about the church but let's do this. Then go home. But instead they just sit at train stations smoking, waiting for the late mass transit.
Americans would never tolerate that.
I was choosing between Shenzhen and eastern Europe for school abroad. (Cheaper to go). I chose Eastern Europe. I shudder to think of the other timeline I went to school in China
Best advice on this is if you want to experience traditional Chinese culture (Confucianism, Taoism) go to Taiwan. The people are way friendlier and you don't have to worry about the CCP.
For now
This is actually true
The ROC did a Underground Railroad type deal and got a lot of the artifacts out of China and in to Taiwan. The National Museum in Taipei has so much stuff they can only display 3% at a time. I spent 3 days there and only saw like half of the 3% they had out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China_retreat_to_Taiwan#Smuggling_of_treasures_from_the_mainland
In general communists erase culture until they realize they can sell pieces of it for their treasury or use it as a tourist trap for revenue.
I share your vision of a world in which visiting China is cool.
It's a very neat place, I'd love to be able to visit again some day, but even a decade ago it was extremely dangerous. I'm hoping the younger generations will turn things around over there- there's a lot of discontent with the Party over censorship, harsh punishments, and the little problem of 30 million more men than women in the millenial generation.
I loved going to China back in the 90's. I did many trips to Guangzhou and also Hong Kong. Today? Not so much.
The CCP is the same type of criminals as the Nazis. That’s it. That’s the comment.
China has no culture in 2020.
The "Great Leap Forward" destroyed Chinese culture in China.
Artwork, statues, temples, religion, history, all destroyed. What still exists is a pathetic tiny fraction of what was there.
If you want to see China go to Taiwan while you can. Taiwan is China without the CCP.
Chinese history is fucking sad and depressing. They have no culture. They destroyed it. Multiple times.
If you’re white the danger is less as China likes to focus on arresting Asian Americans, especially Chinese Americans when they return to China. Went with a dude that said he looks like he’s from HK and he was strongly considering cancelling his trip just because of the danger of looking like a HK native.
At least at the moment China knows they need to rely on America to keep getting manufacturing, so they tread carefully but it may not always be the case.
Well for one, there's the cuisine! Where else can you eat under-cooked bat, raw shellfish, or fermented bean paste?
SUCCULENT CHINESE MEAL
Indeed. I had to be careful about which restaurants/street vendors were OK to eat at, but generally a simple sniff test takes care of that. A decade later I still get cravings for soup from the little Ma La Tang shop near my appartment, grilled leeks from the grill run by a little old lady just outside the school every evening during the week, and the Xiao LongBao from the dumpling place on campus.
Soup dumplings are amazing (Xiao LongBao)
I know an old Marxist who goes once a year with his wife. He celebrates the cultural revolution.
The Great Wall and other historic/cultural sites. That’s the history buff in me though. The sane person in me says I’ll just read about it. Unfortunately Great Wall, Pyramids, Hagia Sophia and a few others are just too dangerous to go see.
Hagia Sophia is safe to go see. I was there in January . Istanbul is a very modern, developed city rich in cultural heritage and very conservative ideals . It actually seemed like a rare occasion of peace and equality between the diverse cultures . Thanks to American influence in the media, new generations no longer doubt what a functional society actually looks like and I'm sure certain political waves and ideologies will be die at the feet of the young and upcoming generations . Much like the burka in France . Teen girls of Muslim/Arab families no longer see the need value of the burka and are proud to embrace showing off their bodies as they wish . Another tradition that will die with aging generations