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TopKeksWithFerns [S] 77 points ago +78 / -1

No one ever wants to go to china. But sometimes they have to for business or whatever. I just want to warn all frens not to go or you could wake up in a pit next to winning the pooh

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Jackhererer 68 points ago +68 / -0

Honestly I've always wanted to go just to china and parts of Europe just to see the countries, experience different cultures of the world. Over the past 5 years I no longer want to visit those countries. Thanks for the warnings.

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Fullarr 30 points ago +30 / -0

Go to Europe. It's supposedly as good as the US. You'll see it isn't. And then you can skip the chances of dying in a country with no law

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ManyDirt 32 points ago +32 / -0

Visiting China and Europe taught me so much about how good America is.

I expected to be overwhelmed by China and realize they were going to overtake the US. I visited Shanghai and in their largest mall their escalator banks were all screwed up meaning the people going up/down had to shift from the right side to the left before getting on the next bank of escalators. Just now a real deep understanding of fire to do things right. This was omnipresent.

In Europe we spent all day on trains to get to some church that my European family wanted to see. After hours and hours of travel we were on a bus that broke down probably 2 miles from the church. We could see it. The bus just offloaded us and left everyone to fend for themselves. They decided just to go back home. I couldn't understand accepting failure like that. Get an Uber. Finish the job. I didn't even care about the church but let's do this. Then go home. But instead they just sit at train stations smoking, waiting for the late mass transit.

Americans would never tolerate that.

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ippwndu 10 points ago +10 / -0

The last time I was in Europe, I was thinking, "Shit, my bathroom is bigger than your kitchen, or any of your bedrooms."

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me-no-likely 8 points ago +8 / -0

Haha sounds like a crappy Church outing. Go back to Europe, especially Italy. Just do random stuff, eat and enjoy cool history & hang out. Helps if you can afford more that $1/day tho.

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rma92 4 points ago +4 / -0

I went to Munich on business a couple of months before the world ended, and rented a car to get to some of the more out there places. It went very well - I went to Neuschwanstein Castle. Didn't get to go inside because Chinese tourists bought up all the tickets, but I got to take the classic picture from the bridge.

Many people there were complaining that they had to leave soon because it took 3 hours to get there by train (It's an 80 mile drive). Remember, this is in Germany, which generally has good trains, but not to out of the way places. It took only about an hour to drive there...

Ironically, most of the people who were complaining about this were American liberal exchange students...

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liberalnevermore 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hell, 2 miles? Just walk lol.

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HunterBidenCokeStraw 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was choosing between Shenzhen and eastern Europe for school abroad. (Cheaper to go). I chose Eastern Europe. I shudder to think of the other timeline I went to school in China

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SteveHuffmanCuckman 16 points ago +16 / -0

Best advice on this is if you want to experience traditional Chinese culture (Confucianism, Taoism) go to Taiwan. The people are way friendlier and you don't have to worry about the CCP.

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Jimmy33 7 points ago +7 / -0

For now

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me-no-likely 6 points ago +6 / -0

This is actually true

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Twiggytwig 3 points ago +3 / -0

The ROC did a Underground Railroad type deal and got a lot of the artifacts out of China and in to Taiwan. The National Museum in Taipei has so much stuff they can only display 3% at a time. I spent 3 days there and only saw like half of the 3% they had out. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China_retreat_to_Taiwan#Smuggling_of_treasures_from_the_mainland

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NorseHighlander 1 point ago +1 / -0

In general communists erase culture until they realize they can sell pieces of it for their treasury or use it as a tourist trap for revenue.

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Friendly_B 9 points ago +10 / -1

I share your vision of a world in which visiting China is cool.

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ModernKnight 8 points ago +8 / -0

It's a very neat place, I'd love to be able to visit again some day, but even a decade ago it was extremely dangerous. I'm hoping the younger generations will turn things around over there- there's a lot of discontent with the Party over censorship, harsh punishments, and the little problem of 30 million more men than women in the millenial generation.

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origcntzero 19 points ago +19 / -0

I loved going to China back in the 90's. I did many trips to Guangzhou and also Hong Kong. Today? Not so much.

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me-no-likely 4 points ago +5 / -1

The CCP is the same type of criminals as the Nazis. That’s it. That’s the comment.

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cluckingducks 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Nazis glorified German culture.

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Fullarr 16 points ago +17 / -1

China has no culture in 2020.

The "Great Leap Forward" destroyed Chinese culture in China.

Artwork, statues, temples, religion, history, all destroyed. What still exists is a pathetic tiny fraction of what was there.

If you want to see China go to Taiwan while you can. Taiwan is China without the CCP.

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JonahND 5 points ago +7 / -2

Chinese history is fucking sad and depressing. They have no culture. They destroyed it. Multiple times.

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Fullarr 9 points ago +10 / -1

China is not one of the most ancient cultures in the world. Don't buy into Chinese propaganda.

One China for 5,000 years has always been a lie. And even if you took that at face value, they destroyed it in the last 60-70 years.

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Chinese history may or may not interest you, that's fine. But China erased its own culture

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Afeazo 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you’re white the danger is less as China likes to focus on arresting Asian Americans, especially Chinese Americans when they return to China. Went with a dude that said he looks like he’s from HK and he was strongly considering cancelling his trip just because of the danger of looking like a HK native.

At least at the moment China knows they need to rely on America to keep getting manufacturing, so they tread carefully but it may not always be the case.