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amilbarge00 29 points ago +29 / -0

I love this idea.

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Mrsattorney 22 points ago +22 / -0

I've been advocating for this approach. Fauci is a devil. He knows what he's doing when he makes outrageous statements and then kind of hedges on whatever he previously said. He's creating confusion deliberately to harm Trump. Why hasn't he been asked about his letters to Hillary's staff that were exposed in the Wikileaks dump? He needs to be pressed on his own motives.

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FreeJack2020 11 points ago +11 / -0

then you could have the trick with the alligators in the pit and faucis chair placed right above a trap door, then trump could say your fired and then fauci would would yelll and you could hear his pathetic screams.....

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N0Brakes 9 points ago +9 / -0

But peer review is actual science! The left can't have that.

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ProudWhiteMan 4 points ago +4 / -0

Then add bill gates to get some medical lynching while at it

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MusicToMyEars [S] 22 points ago +22 / -0

Indeed. He needs to sidestep the CDC and interconnect with real scientists who care only about the truth (not political narratives or big pharma profits)

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snuggs316 15 points ago +15 / -0

i heart this comment, severely.

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ailurus 15 points ago +15 / -0

ReasonTV and the Soho Forum held a couple Oxford-style debates on this. The way an Oxford debate works is you poll the audience before and after and the winner is the person who sways the most votes from before to after.

April 24th: Should the lockdowns end

June 8th: Were the lockdowns a mistake

I would strongly recommend watching all of them, but just as a heads up they are an hour and half (roughly) each. But, the short version is: On both debates, the anti-lockdown positions won.

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RiverFenix 10 points ago +10 / -0

Would love to see an audience of 1000 decide whether Pizzagate is real given the evidence. Not sure they'd be able to sit through a 1.5hr discussion on the subject matter though..

Chances are VERY HIGH, that 'Pizzagate is real' position would win overwhelmingly.

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hollow_fang 63 points ago +63 / -0

Fauci is a fraud that fucked the entire country in the ass to please his deep state overlords.

Publicly shame him. Don't just publish a list of things that nobody will see. Hammer the point home and make it clear that his advice is not to be followed anymore. Ever.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 33 points ago +33 / -0

He should been sued and shamed back in the 1980s when he held up HIV data and stole research. Then delayed true progress in an effort to make more money... just like he’s doing now attacking hydroxychloroquine.

(Actually he was sued then, but it was tossed. So, no shaming. Sadly.)

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MJ85 6 points ago +6 / -0

You say hang him high, but that America's doctor schtick they did bamboozled normies like my parents.

At best I've soured people on him saying, "He gives medical opinions, not Presidential ones." etc and suggested he's a doctor in the wrong position, but world news shows tongue punch the guys butthole like there is no tomorrow and ass is the only thing they love.

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KAG_Master 32 points ago +32 / -0

"It is impossible to overstate the short, medium, and long-term harm to people’s health with a continued shutdown. Losing a job is one of life’s most stressful events, and the effect on a persons health is not lessened because it also has happened to 30 million other people. Keeping schools and universities closed is incalculably detrimental for children, teenagers, and young adults for decades to come. The millions of casualties of a continued shutdown will be hiding in plain sight, but they will be called alcoholism, homelessness, suicide, heart attack, stroke, or kidney failure. In youths it will be called financial instability, unemployment, despair, drug addiction, unplanned pregnancies, poverty, and abuse."

Leftist on imgur say "Teachers shouldn't have to take care of your children." But they fail to see the long-term effects, leftist can't see past their immediate emotions. Of course no body wants anybody to get sick or die, but we can't stop the economy or child development because of our feelings.

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RiverFenix 20 points ago +20 / -0

One of the biggest HONK HONKs was that Jan-Feb-March leading into Covid-19, the Ontario Teachers Federation was in deadlock with Ontario Premier Doug Ford and the teachers were in the middle of an extremely heated Strike.

The teachers - were pissed that Doug Ford wanted to raise Class sizes from 23 students to 24. He also wanted to fund e-learning programs. The Teachers REEEE'd and the parents REEEEE'd and educations is SOOO important and teachers are SOOO important and 'Won't people just think of the kids!" etc etc... typical Leftists shouting..

Fast forward 3 weeks and All schools are shut down (reducing class size to Zero), the students are at home getting fatter, not socializing, playing Fortnite.. not learning.. being indoctrinated into fearmongering society.. it's all pathologically insane. These same people who insisted Ford was the devil are not 100% on his side when it comes to lockdown and masks and keeping kids out of school. LOL HONK

Leftists don't know one day to the next what they stand for/believe in.

This is why I don't concede any ground. Overton window will shift back to where I am in due course. I will remain firm and unflappable in my beliefs.

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supermagafragilistic 5 points ago +5 / -0

I was talking to someone the other day about risk in general and showed this person that for our age group, if you contract covid in the first place the mortality risk is 1 in 100,000. To put it i to perspective i showed this person a list of the risks of dying from other causes. The top causes were of course heart disease and cancer, which is greater than 1 in 10. If you're scared to death of covid then how can you justify getting behind the wheel where your odds of death are 1 in 100. Or how about eating dinner where your odds of death are one in 2600. Our chances of death from covid are about the same as the chances to die in a dog attack. If you're old or at risk, stay home. If you live with old or at risk people, stay home, keep your kids home. Some of us aren't at risk and would like to get back to a normal life. They use the excuse that we do it for others sake yet these are the same people that would slam on the brakes in front of you for driving too slow. Hypocrits the lot of them.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

^ This!

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TrumpBringsLight 4 points ago +4 / -0

the “second wave” is BECAUSE of the lockdowns,

Any good way to show this?

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TrumpBringsLight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks.

I heard flattening the curve, while nice for hospitals, still mean the same number of people are going to die.

Ie so we come out of lockdowns, we will still get cases and deaths. Only exception would be if the super-susceptible stay isolated until some vaccine is made, if ever.

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nuts -1 points ago +1 / -2

No, you misunderstand. If hospitals were overwhelmed with COVID cases, then anybody who needed to go to a hospital for any other serious reason, like say getting into a car crash, or a bad fight, would now be unable to be treated because hospitals would not have the space to care for them. By flattening the curve, yes there are people who will still unfortunately die directly due to COVID, but there are many other people who will be able to avoid an untimely death because hospitals will now be able to care for them. If lockdowns didn't save lives, GOP governors wouldn't be pushing for them as well.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

They are about clickbait and $, the DNC and against Trump. Science and news are irrelevant. Sadly. Good job with your girlfriend btw.

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Shill_Deportatron01 3 points ago +3 / -0

Clinics are also reporting 100% positive test rates. When it's less than 10%. The way they counted a "case" changed recently as well

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NostalgicFuturist 9 points ago +9 / -0

Fauci can always be counted on to shit on any optimism or even realism or just common sense about re-opening the economy. It's as if he gets these algorithmically predictable doom-speak talking points from...I don't know...The Deep State? The Swamp, his Globalist fuck-buddies? Just wildly speculating....

/s

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RiverFenix 9 points ago +9 / -0

April 5th-6th, Fauci got a communication from somewhere telling him (and all other leftists) to IMMEDIATELY don masks going forward.

THIS communication should be found/highly sought after as it would shed light on who/what/where is sending these 4am marching orders to deepstate operatives.

Did Fauci watch a particular YoutubeChannel at midnight on April 5th? did He buy a newspaper?

Shouldn't be so hard to find if they right people look into it. (FBI/NSA)

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NostalgicFuturist 2 points ago +2 / -0

That would be great. But can the FBI be trusted? Didn't a spokesman say recently that the real problem was white supremacy, or something just as outrageously cucked? But wouldn't it be sweet to catch the DS red-handed subverting our democracy? And I assume China is in on the disinformation campaign.

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RiverFenix 3 points ago +3 / -0

The latest interview I watched with Wray seem to indicate the FBI currently holds homegrown domestic terrorism as the highest priority - hopefully he means Antifa and BLM, not the group of 15 people who listen to Richard Spencer.

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NostalgicFuturist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fingers crossed and--fucking finally!!!!!

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RedditSucksChinaPoo 4 points ago +4 / -0

Time for Trump to just fire fraud Fauci and be done with this idiot.

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sir_rockness 3 points ago +3 / -0

But I thought Fauci was the absolute best we have???? But but but...

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redditbsbsbs 2 points ago +2 / -0

Believe the science, hurr durr

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Cyrbuzz66 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fauci is just another libturd spewing his lies and deceit.

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ZincOS 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cancel-Culture. :(.

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BlackToof_Grin 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is a brilliant article with a wonderful collection of expert counter-points to the incessant 'listen to the experts' bullshit from the MSM zombies out there.

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SnakeEyes 2 points ago +2 / -0

Masks are BS!

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sub-collector 1 point ago +2 / -1

Everyone's so naive that they believe that they can negotiate their way out of it. Oh, silly people...