Although the CDC Foundation was chartered by Congress, it is not a government agency nor is it a division of CDC. It is a private, nonprofit organization classified as a 501(c)(3) public charity.Dec 20, 2019
It was the Pelosi Halitosis user. IIRC they were just humble, stating what they knew, and admitting when they could know more.
It was about the CDC
I like that; I like to change my mind based upon better/more current facts, and I admire when people can say that they may need more information.
It’s refreshing to read that and the way they put it; not sure why they deleted it, but they are the person maybe 2 comments above, if you’re interested.
I think we need something like reddit had, where we could tell the difference between a user deleting their own comment and a mod removing it. Would help to tell what's going on.
I think we need something like reddit had, where we could tell the difference between a user deleting their own comment and a mod removing it. Would help to tell what's going on.
Absolutely.
Then after that maybe make the Block button functional. If possible.
I didn't even know the CDC was a thing until this covid shit happened, probably because growing up I was taught different ways to take care of myself depending the sickness.
Interesting, kind of how like the Federal Reserve is a private entity as with the Chamber of Commerce, yet most people think that they are government agencies.
People think that's a gov agency? And no it's nothing like that, because the CDC is a goverment agency 100%. The "CDC Foundation" is something totally different. I am not sure if the poster realizes the distinction, idk what the hell he's trying to say.
Interesting, kind of how like the Federal Reserve is a private entity as with the Chamber of Commerce, yet most people think that they are government agencies.
And kind of like BBB, FedEx, and IRS (a private Delaware corporation)
Have you not heard of hyperbole?
I'm sure some idiot thinks that it's government but I think those people are fortunately in the minority. Then again this is the USA and our education system is pretty terrible.
Ha! I've been thinking about that movie for the past two days given how masks, deception, and self-delusion are the major themes.
You've hit on something that's be covered in many dissections of the movie. Tom Cruise's character thinks he has a ticket to the overlords world in so many ways (his M.D. card included), but the truth is everyone else but him can clearly see that he does not. He's just a serf to them. Queue creepy piano music...
There’s some weird shit connected to that movie regarding secret sex societies. Apparently the film cut that was released was not Stanley Kubricks vision. And that he had a deeper cut that exposed too much of the REAL portrayal of those orgy societies. He just happened to pass away before the movie was released
Illuminati aside, I loved that movie for Kubrick's wit. Cruise was trying like hell to get laid, isn't hideously ugly, but can't get any, no matter what he tries, even from whores. He can only get hit on by an underage teen being pimped by her father the costumer and by a hysterical grieving woman, and is accused in the street of being homosexual due to his looks.
They're all warped scientology and/or Hollywood fucks, mind you...let us not forget
"Deaths are calculated by using the proportion of laboratory-confirmed deaths to hospitalizations reported through CDC’s web-based Aggregate Hospitalization and Death Reporting Activity (AHDRA). "
https://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/estimates/April_February_13.htm
There are other documents that spell out the CDC death number is based on confirmed tests and post mortem testing only.
CDC is a private organization, LIKE THE FUCKING FED! Why nobody cares about this is beyond me. Are so fucking stupid that a fucking ALPHABET NAME is all we need to think the fucking GOOBERMINT will save us?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is a national public health institute in the United States. It is a United States federal agency, under the Department of Health and Human Services, and is headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia.
It doesn’t. The CDC foundation is a private organization that works with the CDC to leverage private funding and resources for the CDC. This is an incredibly common practice with government organizations, just look at your state’s universities for example.
With all the new data coming out lately, it would have happened sooner or later... false numbers and selective data selection, defective/infected tests, masks not working... they are lucky this is all that is happening.
The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.
The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.
Nah, one day it will just... end. You know, like it did when it was time to riot.
And more than likely, if you try to bring it up afterwards in anything but the most solemn tone decrying the "high death tolls" then you'll be called a list of names and kicked out of the conversation.
So when will the mask wearing BS end? Until the CDC says so? Cause thats what all the damn governors and businesses are using as an excuse to force people to wear them "muh CDC guidlines"
The worst part is that they don't even need to game the numbers. People do that shit all on their own. Biggest problem I've run into is the conflation of simply testing positive with chief complaint.
Got into an argument with someone about the Houston TMC. As of July 09, they had 646 people in their ICU who tested positive for COVID-19. This person was absolutely convinced that the SOLE reason these people were in the ICU was because of their COVID-19 infection.
It doesn't scare me at all because I have no reason to believe that these people are in the ICU purely because of a COVID-19 infection. In order for me to think that, I would have to disregard every other conceivable reason that would land someone in the ICU, as well as disregard the idea that at least some of these people acquired their infection after admittance (AKA hospital-acquired infection).
They actually do a nice job of collecting and presenting their data too: https://www.tmc.edu/
Just one issue: The don't differentiate between COVID-19 as a comorbidity and COVID-19 as a chief complaint.
For example, someone could've fallen off a building and fractured their skull, which would likely result in them being put in the ICU. This person could also have tested positive for COVID-19. Now, I'm not a doctor, but I'd bet money that the reason for them being in the ICU would be that busted skull and not the beer flu.
Now, during this hypothetical stint in the ICU, they're also going to treat my COVID-19 infection, so long as it doesn't interfere with the skull fracture of course. This leads to another problem:
"This person is being treated for COVID-19."
This goes back to the original problem of people presuming that, if someone is being treated for COVID-19, COVID-19 is their chief complaint and they have no other comorbidities.
Is it technically possible that all 646 of these people are in the ICU solely for a COVID-19 infection that they acquired prior to being put into the ICU?
Remember Mayor Cruz in Puerto Rico crying about how Trump wasn't sending any federal aid after Hurricane Maria? And then we all found out there were dumpsters filled to the top with unopened boxes of food and crates of water abandoned in an airfield? It took years for the truth to come out.
Remember when they sent those ventilators and medical supplies to New York and they wound up in a New Jersey warehouse and we found out THE NEXT DAY after Trump alleged that supplies were being stolen locally?
You know the madman snuck a GPS tracking device with the supplies because he wasn't going to be played for a fool again.
Now, CDC, you know who you're dealing with. You're not going to get away with your scam.
I can't find it now but I recall hearing about Maryland health officials making claims that they had to make clandestine efforts to get medical supplies that weren't in the hands of the federal government (i.e., Trump). They made it seem like it was to get badly needed supplies that weren't being provided. I wonder if that was an effort to hide the fact that they were stockpiling or some other fuckery. You just can't trust this shit right now.
Another interesting thing I learned about counting cases and calculating death rates is that doing it in the way they are with Covid is actually a totally fucked up way to do it. In that, saying that x number of people died of an infectious disease or estimating case rate is something that can only be accurately done after a year of analysis. Data needs to be cleaned up and errors removed. Makes you wonder why they are doing these rolling averages now.
I looked into that Maryland health officials thing. Don't quote me on the exact details, but It was some shady deal where this guy from the hospital made a the purchase outside of hospital channels with black market dealers. They used an unmarked truck to deliver the supplies across state lines and shipped it to some not-the-hospital location.
When he got caught he gave a story about having to hide his very illegal operation because he was afraid of the feds. I don't know about you, but it sounded very bullshitty to me.
It's easy to figure out how much they're gaming the numbers.
The national death rate is reported as 4.02% and the global death rate, 4.4%. So, we will judge Florida and New York's cases by using that data.
Florida's death rate is 1.5%...3.73 times LOWER than the national death rate. That's crazy considering the elderly population of Florida.
It's easy to conclude that Florida doesn't have 292,000 cases as reported, but rather has somewhere near 79,000 confirmed cases instead. The reported cases are MUCH higher than what we can reasonably expect to be true based on death rate.
On the other hand, New York has a death rate of 7.86% or 1.78 timss HIGHER the national average. So we can easily conclude that cases in New York are being under reported almost 2 to 1 and that instead of the reported 404,000 cases they most likely have in the neighborhood of 789,000 confirmed cases.
I'm just using the numbers google had yesterday afternoon, and it looks like they're just using Wikipedia for data. I don't believe any of the numbers at all, but my point was that even their own statistics make zero sense.
Today they still have Florida at 292k confirmed cases and 4,408 deaths (1.5%) and NY at 408k confirmed cases and 32,092 deaths (7.9%). Nationally it looks like they've dropped it to 3.96% (138k/3.48m).
If you have figures that show my math is "way off" feel free to share.
Thank God these people are clowning around with a virus that 99.9% of the infected recover from. Can you imagine if this Chinese bioweapon had been super deadly, killing even just 10% of those infected?
We'd be so screwed with these people in charge of a pandemic...
Oh, that's easy! They, much like a 3-year-old having a meltdown, will cover their ears, curl up into the fetal position, and scream themselves hoarse until they finally fall asleep. When they wake up from that nap, they'll move on to the next tantrum. Rinse, repeat.
This the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people in our history. Not saying that the virus was a complete hoax as it was deadly for certain segments of the population but all flu viruses are deadly for some. They simply chose to use the yearly flu outbreak as their ace in the hole during an election year. A couple of things that I can guarantee are occuring right now:
They are attributing so many deaths to WuFlu that other common causes that contribute to the mortality rate are nose diving in numbers. They can't label heart attack and stroke as cause of death when they've already attributed it to this virus.
They are desperately plotting to keep schools and economies shut down because they cannot allow the economy to rebound quickly.
I believe the seed was planted for this plot during H1N1, the light bulb went off with the globalists that they could announce a deadly virus was on the loose for political gain.
During H1N1 which actually lasted through 2011 there was no talk about how bad it was and I can guarantee that as with this virus causing normal causes of death to plummet, that during that time, if the data is properly analyzed you would find that normal causes of death had spiked because the reverse happened then, they didn't want to reveal how bad H1N1 really was. Obama had just taken office and no way were they going to allow a virus to damage the economy even more after the great recession,so they let it spread.
People should go to prison for this shit and they harm they caused to the country and the economy.
So to these motherfuckers, fuck you,fuck your masks, fuck your social distancing. I have had it.
Hospitals are already doing it. The parent of a friend of mine died of a heart issue. But it turns out she also had COVID. No symptoms, no fever, nothing. She was also 90. Guess what they called the cause of death?
As usual, follow the money. They pull tests even without symptoms because, if they strike Coronavirus Gold, they're definitely going to get paid. Why settle for Medicare reimbursement rates when you literally attach a multiplier and get back much much more in cash? Even excluding Medicare (so under 65), insurance companies routinely deny a percentage of all claims to force audits. But for Shanghai Shivers, the fed backs them up to just pay it.
Apparently she found out via contact tracers who called her. I didn't pry to what the death certificate said, given the circumstances. It's already a stressful and sad situation because her county wouldn't allow a proper funeral.
This is what we get, we need the 2nd term about long term government worker reform.
By Reform I mean full on gutting the Government workers.
I say put them all on contract, you're a contracted employee of the United States government. You do not get collective bargaining rights, you do not get a cushy retirement, nor do you get cushy medical coverage.
At best you'll get discounts for medical coverage through the 'exchanges' and you'll get a pick of 401k's that will be funded and matched pertaining to your contract.
The contracts going forward is
non-manager = 10 year contracts
mid-manager= 5 year contract
higher level management =3 year contract
Director level = 2 year on appointment.
You wont be allowed to roll over your years. Your renewal is subjected to review and rejection by the OBM.
Termination can range from dishonesty, political bias and leaking sensitive data outside the whistle blower protection.
While this sounds nice, I'm not entirely sure how you implement it. Do you enact these measures for all future employees and let the current grandfathered employees retire out, or; do you immediately force this upon all current government employees?
I don't understand all the legalities of it, and I'm sure employee unions will create an incredible defense. However, I agree. I like your plan. I hate the lifetime government employee who never fears getting fired. In the military, at least post sergeant or E-5 rank, they conduct pro/cons pretty religiously and man, if you don't make those numbers, you'll never see staff sergeant or E-6. It should be that competitive in government and more, where they force you out for underperformance.
I'd honestly force it upon all current employees. Those who stay will maybe get a 10% increase in pay with their retirement rolled over into a 401K. They will work their contract then no longer be allowed to work for the Federal Government at their current contract level.
So example
Becky from CDC. Designation File Clerk 65k a year, with 40k in benefits. Total payout is 105k total. She decides to stay on as a non-manger clerk. She will obtain a 10 year contract at 71,500 for 10 years. Her pay in stipulation for the Union is roughly 8k a year towards her retirement plan. She's worked 10 years has managed to have a 108k controbution to her plan. That 108k is rolled into the new 401k, a hard cap of 25k is added as bonus by the government and is rolled into the new account. So whatever dollar she sends to her 401k is matched by $1.50 from the Feds.
If Becky chooses to not stay on, her severance package is 173k. Her retirement fund + 1 year salary. She will also have a Freeze placed on her so she can not seek re-employment for 6 months, once she signs for her severance package.
The idea is to remove as much of these bureaucratic parasites out of our government as possible. So the Sooner the better.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is a national public health institute in the United States. It is a United States federal agency, under the Department of Health and Human Services,[2] and is headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia.[3]
Nursing home residence, were murdered -unnecessarily. One of my neighbors's mother died in a NY nursing home- of covid 19, planted there by the bar-bell nipple governor.
She barely said two words to anybody in this last month. They cut all communications to the residents. They had no hope of getting out of there. That is a generation of New Yorkers, murdered.
Should've been done months ago when the CDC outright told doctors to count all deaths WITH china flu, and to count untested "probable" cases too. CDC employees responsible for that need to be fired.
Most Florida Testing sites are currently falsely reporting 100% positive tests. According to the FL Dept. of Health all who are tested are resulting positive for Covid-19 infection. This is shear desperation and wide-spread panicked insanity!
I think more than anything else it points out that there is massive dishonesty with these testing procedures, practices, regulations, restrictions and recording methods. I need answers because my Florida business is suffering! Your point is very well taken, yes, the Left is feverishly stupid, but what is the Republican Florida Governor, Ron Desantis doing about it? I don't see anyone doing anything about this injustice, Except President Trump who is literally busting his ass to reopen the Country. Let the Military take over and lets close this ugly chapter TODAY!
My mother is a snowbird - I'd ask her to stop by your shop if she's renting in your area next March and buy something but I don't want to ask you to doxx yourself either.
I'm struggling with a cousin who is a veteran pede from Meme War 1 (2016).. he's on the stupid Corona Benefit program (2000$/mth) and it's enough to keep him feeling 'safe' but it's also 'not enough to survive on'.. he's a weaker pede, worked in Casinos and telecomms sales - but has recently decided to pick up a trade and I couldn't be more thrilled.
I hooked him up with a friend who was hiring - fencing. It's hard work.
He started today, and last night I got a text asking if he thinks my buddy would be willing to lay him off so that he doesn't lose his EI eligibility (for when the CERB runs out)..
I went a bit ape shit on him because I feel like he was taking the right steps in getting independent and off the system, instead of being a leech (which he said I called him) he could be one of us suckers who pays our taxes to support the bums on the benefits. The privilege that comes with working for yourself is that you're not worried about the difference between CERB 2000$/mth versus 80 hours at 20$/hr x2 minus tax. I get it.. These days it feels like 'its not worth it to work when I could sit at home and collect nearly the same doing nothing'. It's enticing...
I'm so disappointed that this pede, my cousin, has fallen into this socialist trap.
He IS smarter than this, but I swear covid did a real mind-fuck on people. Some that were nearly 100% redpilled have regressed because of fear/peer pressure to comply into accepting socialist mandates from people who hate them and who they don't even like in return. It's sickening and I find myself one in a hundred who isn't wearing a mask in the stores.
I have yet to hear any complaints or rationale behind trying to run a retail/restaurant business with only 20% of your clientele because they're lined up out the door, and say fuck this I'll come back another day. Or those who are clearly going to go out of business because it's simply unsustainable business model dictated by 'scientists' and politicians who have never run a successful business in their lives..
If I vote the regular old fashioned way, I only have to trust the guy that's shoving my vote through the tabulator by the hundred-count stacks and who's under a lot of time pressure to get them all through and who doesn't have time to be individually reading each and every single ballot and doesn't give a fuck anyhow. I only have to trust 1 single poor bastard that doesn't give a fuck.
If I vote by mail, I have to trust however many mail carriers my vote passes by at two post offices plus transit plus the person that opens the mail-in ballot. That's a large amount of people that might give a fuck.
the CDC are LIARS, and deeply involved in the Coup to remove trump. they planned the entire hoax. Here is data directly from Texas HHS. it shows that Covid isn't even as bad as the regular FLU.
Dumb fuck CDC hasn't updated their fatality rates since the end of APRIL! Let's look at the CDC weekly deaths due to COVID and wonder why they haven't updated their fatality rate since April 29.
Best news I read today, in the early morning beginnings.
May we all receive the real stats, on Covid-19 tests and patients, within the next seven days....
The data doesn't support the narrative, therefor it has to be manipulated. Unfortunately for the medical/pharma establishment, those in charge of manipulating things are doing a piss poor job.
Cut the bureaucratic tape and then we will see the finish line. Not tired of winning. We give no fucks about the WHO and we don't give fucks about 501(c)(3) CDC. They are hired hands and now they can go kindly stick their Bolshevik fist up their own ass. Sorry for the graphic.
Read it, it's right fucking there!
Although the CDC Foundation was chartered by Congress, it is not a government agency nor is it a division of CDC. It is a private, nonprofit organization classified as a 501(c)(3) public charity.Dec 20, 2019
I did not know that
I don’t know who you are, but I like you.
What did the deleted comment say? It wasn't Anaconda, was it?
It was the Pelosi Halitosis user. IIRC they were just humble, stating what they knew, and admitting when they could know more.
It was about the CDC
I like that; I like to change my mind based upon better/more current facts, and I admire when people can say that they may need more information.
It’s refreshing to read that and the way they put it; not sure why they deleted it, but they are the person maybe 2 comments above, if you’re interested.
I think we need something like reddit had, where we could tell the difference between a user deleting their own comment and a mod removing it. Would help to tell what's going on.
Absolutely.
Then after that maybe make the Block button functional. If possible.
and here i was just promoting donald dot win on youtube for it's lack of censorship. i guess it's just less censorship, lol
PP needs to be lobbed into the depths of hell.
So in the end, GEOTUS was actually right about defunding the CDC.
They did about as much damage to the US as the Great Depression, but in the span of only 3 months.
I didn't even know the CDC was a thing until this covid shit happened, probably because growing up I was taught different ways to take care of myself depending the sickness.
Sometimes theres like that one guy who took the antidote ahead of time.
TV Show: The Walking Dead: Season 1, Episode 5. "Wildfire"
The ineptitude extends even to Hollywood fiction--that's telling you something!
Walking dead
They're also the people who said YOU DON'T NEED TO WEAR A MASK IF YOU'RE HEALTHY
...before they said YOU NEED TO WEAR A MASK AT ALL TIMES, BECAUSE YOU ARE BY DEFAULT A DANGER TO SOCIETY MERELY BY BREATHING
For CDC corruption. The film VAXXED assisted to expose some of it.
Upvoted
BTW no double X in English ::backs out of frame quietly::
Interesting, kind of how like the Federal Reserve is a private entity as with the Chamber of Commerce, yet most people think that they are government agencies.
It's the same thing with the Better Business Bureau
People think that's a gov agency? And no it's nothing like that, because the CDC is a goverment agency 100%. The "CDC Foundation" is something totally different. I am not sure if the poster realizes the distinction, idk what the hell he's trying to say.
Do a quick google lol.
https://www.cdc.gov/about/business/cdcfoun.htm
And kind of like BBB, FedEx, and IRS (a private Delaware corporation)
Pretty sure that nobody thinks FedEx is government. If anything, people use that as an expression 'That's about as federal as Federal Express"
Lots of people think anything with "Federal" in the name is federal
But if believing nobody thinks that works better for you or anyone else, fine by me, ICCL
Have you not heard of hyperbole? I'm sure some idiot thinks that it's government but I think those people are fortunately in the minority. Then again this is the USA and our education system is pretty terrible.
OK the minority, we agree
That was easy :)
B-b-but I’m wearing scrubs, and a mask! Aren’t you legally required to obey me?!
Remember in Eyes Wide Shut where Tom Cruise’s character ran around flashing his ‘M.D.’ like a cop’s badge? That’s how these fuckers think it works.
Ha! I've been thinking about that movie for the past two days given how masks, deception, and self-delusion are the major themes.
You've hit on something that's be covered in many dissections of the movie. Tom Cruise's character thinks he has a ticket to the overlords world in so many ways (his M.D. card included), but the truth is everyone else but him can clearly see that he does not. He's just a serf to them. Queue creepy piano music...
There’s some weird shit connected to that movie regarding secret sex societies. Apparently the film cut that was released was not Stanley Kubricks vision. And that he had a deeper cut that exposed too much of the REAL portrayal of those orgy societies. He just happened to pass away before the movie was released
Well, the movie is an adaptation of a book from the 1920s set in Vienna. People project their own meanings onto the film.
"Doctor Bill" was quite the character, wasn't he?
Illuminati aside, I loved that movie for Kubrick's wit. Cruise was trying like hell to get laid, isn't hideously ugly, but can't get any, no matter what he tries, even from whores. He can only get hit on by an underage teen being pimped by her father the costumer and by a hysterical grieving woman, and is accused in the street of being homosexual due to his looks.
They're all warped scientology and/or Hollywood fucks, mind you...let us not forget
Correct, and I may be dumb. But I don't think I need congressional approval to start a foundation.
You do when it's based on corruption! Congress holds the rights to that.
in 2009 the CDC required proof of H1N1 death, including post-mortem testing. 60.8 million cases in US with a low official death rate.
This year they require zero proof of anything Covid-19 and pay out money for each hospital case.
What changed?
FLOTUS doesn't have a penis.
Well, yes, but what does that have to...
...ooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, right.
kek
Got any handy sauces on the H1N1 part? Much appreciated in advance if you do pede
"Deaths are calculated by using the proportion of laboratory-confirmed deaths to hospitalizations reported through CDC’s web-based Aggregate Hospitalization and Death Reporting Activity (AHDRA). " https://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/estimates/April_February_13.htm
There are other documents that spell out the CDC death number is based on confirmed tests and post mortem testing only.
60.8 million infections: https://web.archive.org/web/20200318191813/https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
CDC is a private organization, LIKE THE FUCKING FED! Why nobody cares about this is beyond me. Are so fucking stupid that a fucking ALPHABET NAME is all we need to think the fucking GOOBERMINT will save us?
END PLANNED PARENTHOOD!
Wrong
Totally noted above. However, how does the government then run a nonprofit?
It doesn’t. The CDC foundation is a private organization that works with the CDC to leverage private funding and resources for the CDC. This is an incredibly common practice with government organizations, just look at your state’s universities for example.
"but the goobermint would never lie to me in a pandemic!"
Thank you for this, the CDC has been a problem this whole time.
With all the new data coming out lately, it would have happened sooner or later... false numbers and selective data selection, defective/infected tests, masks not working... they are lucky this is all that is happening.
It was obvious to the statistically initiated skeptics before, but I think it’s completely over the top now.
The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.
The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results
The egg on the face of these companies who virtue signaled all over the place about their mask policies is going to be so glorious.
Nah, one day it will just... end. You know, like it did when it was time to riot.
And more than likely, if you try to bring it up afterwards in anything but the most solemn tone decrying the "high death tolls" then you'll be called a list of names and kicked out of the conversation.
So when will the mask wearing BS end? Until the CDC says so? Cause thats what all the damn governors and businesses are using as an excuse to force people to wear them "muh CDC guidlines"
The worst part is that they don't even need to game the numbers. People do that shit all on their own. Biggest problem I've run into is the conflation of simply testing positive with chief complaint.
Got into an argument with someone about the Houston TMC. As of July 09, they had 646 people in their ICU who tested positive for COVID-19. This person was absolutely convinced that the SOLE reason these people were in the ICU was because of their COVID-19 infection.
Wow, that number scares me. I live about 2 miles away.
It doesn't scare me at all because I have no reason to believe that these people are in the ICU purely because of a COVID-19 infection. In order for me to think that, I would have to disregard every other conceivable reason that would land someone in the ICU, as well as disregard the idea that at least some of these people acquired their infection after admittance (AKA hospital-acquired infection).
They actually do a nice job of collecting and presenting their data too: https://www.tmc.edu/
Just one issue: The don't differentiate between COVID-19 as a comorbidity and COVID-19 as a chief complaint.
For example, someone could've fallen off a building and fractured their skull, which would likely result in them being put in the ICU. This person could also have tested positive for COVID-19. Now, I'm not a doctor, but I'd bet money that the reason for them being in the ICU would be that busted skull and not the beer flu.
Now, during this hypothetical stint in the ICU, they're also going to treat my COVID-19 infection, so long as it doesn't interfere with the skull fracture of course. This leads to another problem:
"This person is being treated for COVID-19."
This goes back to the original problem of people presuming that, if someone is being treated for COVID-19, COVID-19 is their chief complaint and they have no other comorbidities.
Is it technically possible that all 646 of these people are in the ICU solely for a COVID-19 infection that they acquired prior to being put into the ICU?
Yes.
Is it likely?
Fuck no.
Remember Mayor Cruz in Puerto Rico crying about how Trump wasn't sending any federal aid after Hurricane Maria? And then we all found out there were dumpsters filled to the top with unopened boxes of food and crates of water abandoned in an airfield? It took years for the truth to come out.
Remember when they sent those ventilators and medical supplies to New York and they wound up in a New Jersey warehouse and we found out THE NEXT DAY after Trump alleged that supplies were being stolen locally?
You know the madman snuck a GPS tracking device with the supplies because he wasn't going to be played for a fool again.
Now, CDC, you know who you're dealing with. You're not going to get away with your scam.
I can't find it now but I recall hearing about Maryland health officials making claims that they had to make clandestine efforts to get medical supplies that weren't in the hands of the federal government (i.e., Trump). They made it seem like it was to get badly needed supplies that weren't being provided. I wonder if that was an effort to hide the fact that they were stockpiling or some other fuckery. You just can't trust this shit right now.
Another interesting thing I learned about counting cases and calculating death rates is that doing it in the way they are with Covid is actually a totally fucked up way to do it. In that, saying that x number of people died of an infectious disease or estimating case rate is something that can only be accurately done after a year of analysis. Data needs to be cleaned up and errors removed. Makes you wonder why they are doing these rolling averages now.
I looked into that Maryland health officials thing. Don't quote me on the exact details, but It was some shady deal where this guy from the hospital made a the purchase outside of hospital channels with black market dealers. They used an unmarked truck to deliver the supplies across state lines and shipped it to some not-the-hospital location.
When he got caught he gave a story about having to hide his very illegal operation because he was afraid of the feds. I don't know about you, but it sounded very bullshitty to me.
It's easy to figure out how much they're gaming the numbers.
The national death rate is reported as 4.02% and the global death rate, 4.4%. So, we will judge Florida and New York's cases by using that data.
Florida's death rate is 1.5%...3.73 times LOWER than the national death rate. That's crazy considering the elderly population of Florida. It's easy to conclude that Florida doesn't have 292,000 cases as reported, but rather has somewhere near 79,000 confirmed cases instead. The reported cases are MUCH higher than what we can reasonably expect to be true based on death rate.
On the other hand, New York has a death rate of 7.86% or 1.78 timss HIGHER the national average. So we can easily conclude that cases in New York are being under reported almost 2 to 1 and that instead of the reported 404,000 cases they most likely have in the neighborhood of 789,000 confirmed cases.
Not sure where you got these death rate figures from, but you're way off.
I'm just using the numbers google had yesterday afternoon, and it looks like they're just using Wikipedia for data. I don't believe any of the numbers at all, but my point was that even their own statistics make zero sense.
Today they still have Florida at 292k confirmed cases and 4,408 deaths (1.5%) and NY at 408k confirmed cases and 32,092 deaths (7.9%). Nationally it looks like they've dropped it to 3.96% (138k/3.48m).
If you have figures that show my math is "way off" feel free to share.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
I'm patriotic, I'm active guard. Sign me up!
1 - Declare racism a public health crisis.............
Whoah.
Thank God these people are clowning around with a virus that 99.9% of the infected recover from. Can you imagine if this Chinese bioweapon had been super deadly, killing even just 10% of those infected?
We'd be so screwed with these people in charge of a pandemic...
That's just a pdf letter addressed to the director of CDC. Who sent it?
Without the WHO or the CDC, Democrats won’t know who to believe!
won’t matter to them. they prefer truth over facts
Lol!
facts = truth
Oh, that's easy! They, much like a 3-year-old having a meltdown, will cover their ears, curl up into the fetal position, and scream themselves hoarse until they finally fall asleep. When they wake up from that nap, they'll move on to the next tantrum. Rinse, repeat.
This the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people in our history. Not saying that the virus was a complete hoax as it was deadly for certain segments of the population but all flu viruses are deadly for some. They simply chose to use the yearly flu outbreak as their ace in the hole during an election year. A couple of things that I can guarantee are occuring right now:
They are attributing so many deaths to WuFlu that other common causes that contribute to the mortality rate are nose diving in numbers. They can't label heart attack and stroke as cause of death when they've already attributed it to this virus.
They are desperately plotting to keep schools and economies shut down because they cannot allow the economy to rebound quickly.
I believe the seed was planted for this plot during H1N1, the light bulb went off with the globalists that they could announce a deadly virus was on the loose for political gain.
During H1N1 which actually lasted through 2011 there was no talk about how bad it was and I can guarantee that as with this virus causing normal causes of death to plummet, that during that time, if the data is properly analyzed you would find that normal causes of death had spiked because the reverse happened then, they didn't want to reveal how bad H1N1 really was. Obama had just taken office and no way were they going to allow a virus to damage the economy even more after the great recession,so they let it spread.
People should go to prison for this shit and they harm they caused to the country and the economy.
So to these motherfuckers, fuck you,fuck your masks, fuck your social distancing. I have had it.
This can't happen fast enough. We need the true data
Absolutely. Inaccurate tests sent from China are conveniently creating a second wave.
These Corona cases only seem to report cases, not positive or negative results. Negative results just so happen to never make the headlines.
Someone can just walk in and get tested for Covid, and the State will add that as a Corona case in order to get that sweet Federal CoronaBuck$
Hospitals are already doing it. The parent of a friend of mine died of a heart issue. But it turns out she also had COVID. No symptoms, no fever, nothing. She was also 90. Guess what they called the cause of death?
As usual, follow the money. They pull tests even without symptoms because, if they strike Coronavirus Gold, they're definitely going to get paid. Why settle for Medicare reimbursement rates when you literally attach a multiplier and get back much much more in cash? Even excluding Medicare (so under 65), insurance companies routinely deny a percentage of all claims to force audits. But for Shanghai Shivers, the fed backs them up to just pay it.
Apparently she found out via contact tracers who called her. I didn't pry to what the death certificate said, given the circumstances. It's already a stressful and sad situation because her county wouldn't allow a proper funeral.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2020/07/14/report-white-house-may-ask-states-to-use-national-guard-for-covid-data-collection/amp/
https://archive.vn/YHB1S
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Don't Google...Duckduckgo instead
Or bing
This is what we get, we need the 2nd term about long term government worker reform.
By Reform I mean full on gutting the Government workers.
I say put them all on contract, you're a contracted employee of the United States government. You do not get collective bargaining rights, you do not get a cushy retirement, nor do you get cushy medical coverage.
At best you'll get discounts for medical coverage through the 'exchanges' and you'll get a pick of 401k's that will be funded and matched pertaining to your contract.
The contracts going forward is
non-manager = 10 year contracts
mid-manager= 5 year contract
higher level management =3 year contract
Director level = 2 year on appointment.
You wont be allowed to roll over your years. Your renewal is subjected to review and rejection by the OBM.
Termination can range from dishonesty, political bias and leaking sensitive data outside the whistle blower protection.
While this sounds nice, I'm not entirely sure how you implement it. Do you enact these measures for all future employees and let the current grandfathered employees retire out, or; do you immediately force this upon all current government employees?
I don't understand all the legalities of it, and I'm sure employee unions will create an incredible defense. However, I agree. I like your plan. I hate the lifetime government employee who never fears getting fired. In the military, at least post sergeant or E-5 rank, they conduct pro/cons pretty religiously and man, if you don't make those numbers, you'll never see staff sergeant or E-6. It should be that competitive in government and more, where they force you out for underperformance.
I'd honestly force it upon all current employees. Those who stay will maybe get a 10% increase in pay with their retirement rolled over into a 401K. They will work their contract then no longer be allowed to work for the Federal Government at their current contract level.
So example Becky from CDC. Designation File Clerk 65k a year, with 40k in benefits. Total payout is 105k total. She decides to stay on as a non-manger clerk. She will obtain a 10 year contract at 71,500 for 10 years. Her pay in stipulation for the Union is roughly 8k a year towards her retirement plan. She's worked 10 years has managed to have a 108k controbution to her plan. That 108k is rolled into the new 401k, a hard cap of 25k is added as bonus by the government and is rolled into the new account. So whatever dollar she sends to her 401k is matched by $1.50 from the Feds.
If Becky chooses to not stay on, her severance package is 173k. Her retirement fund + 1 year salary. She will also have a Freeze placed on her so she can not seek re-employment for 6 months, once she signs for her severance package.
The idea is to remove as much of these bureaucratic parasites out of our government as possible. So the Sooner the better.
Can I vote for you? Will you be my senator?
Trust in all government agencies is just shit right now. You always thought the CDC had our back at least.
CDC is a private company
No
I think you’re referring to a foundation of the same name, can you clarify?
Nursing home residence, were murdered -unnecessarily. One of my neighbors's mother died in a NY nursing home- of covid 19, planted there by the bar-bell nipple governor.
She barely said two words to anybody in this last month. They cut all communications to the residents. They had no hope of getting out of there. That is a generation of New Yorkers, murdered.
WTF? Why are these kids so mad at the elderly?
COVID IS A REAL VIRUS BUT THE HYSTERIA IS FAKE
Should've been done months ago when the CDC outright told doctors to count all deaths WITH china flu, and to count untested "probable" cases too. CDC employees responsible for that need to be fired.
Wow, this is the first time I got stickied on TD.win, I feel so accomplished lmao
Good move. Data is dubious at this point. Simply because it's an election year.
Down With The Sickness
Most Florida Testing sites are currently falsely reporting 100% positive tests. According to the FL Dept. of Health all who are tested are resulting positive for Covid-19 infection. This is shear desperation and wide-spread panicked insanity!
Tomorrow will be a very interesting day!
If everyone has it - what is the use in social distancing or wearing masks anymore.
Leftists are so stupid with their inability to see loopholes in their propaganda.
I think more than anything else it points out that there is massive dishonesty with these testing procedures, practices, regulations, restrictions and recording methods. I need answers because my Florida business is suffering! Your point is very well taken, yes, the Left is feverishly stupid, but what is the Republican Florida Governor, Ron Desantis doing about it? I don't see anyone doing anything about this injustice, Except President Trump who is literally busting his ass to reopen the Country. Let the Military take over and lets close this ugly chapter TODAY!
MAGA
I hear you.
My mother is a snowbird - I'd ask her to stop by your shop if she's renting in your area next March and buy something but I don't want to ask you to doxx yourself either.
I'm struggling with a cousin who is a veteran pede from Meme War 1 (2016).. he's on the stupid Corona Benefit program (2000$/mth) and it's enough to keep him feeling 'safe' but it's also 'not enough to survive on'.. he's a weaker pede, worked in Casinos and telecomms sales - but has recently decided to pick up a trade and I couldn't be more thrilled.
I hooked him up with a friend who was hiring - fencing. It's hard work.
He started today, and last night I got a text asking if he thinks my buddy would be willing to lay him off so that he doesn't lose his EI eligibility (for when the CERB runs out)..
I went a bit ape shit on him because I feel like he was taking the right steps in getting independent and off the system, instead of being a leech (which he said I called him) he could be one of us suckers who pays our taxes to support the bums on the benefits. The privilege that comes with working for yourself is that you're not worried about the difference between CERB 2000$/mth versus 80 hours at 20$/hr x2 minus tax. I get it.. These days it feels like 'its not worth it to work when I could sit at home and collect nearly the same doing nothing'. It's enticing...
I'm so disappointed that this pede, my cousin, has fallen into this socialist trap.
He IS smarter than this, but I swear covid did a real mind-fuck on people. Some that were nearly 100% redpilled have regressed because of fear/peer pressure to comply into accepting socialist mandates from people who hate them and who they don't even like in return. It's sickening and I find myself one in a hundred who isn't wearing a mask in the stores.
I have yet to hear any complaints or rationale behind trying to run a retail/restaurant business with only 20% of your clientele because they're lined up out the door, and say fuck this I'll come back another day. Or those who are clearly going to go out of business because it's simply unsustainable business model dictated by 'scientists' and politicians who have never run a successful business in their lives..
Stay Strong Brother!
It's as simple as this:
If I vote the regular old fashioned way, I only have to trust the guy that's shoving my vote through the tabulator by the hundred-count stacks and who's under a lot of time pressure to get them all through and who doesn't have time to be individually reading each and every single ballot and doesn't give a fuck anyhow. I only have to trust 1 single poor bastard that doesn't give a fuck.
If I vote by mail, I have to trust however many mail carriers my vote passes by at two post offices plus transit plus the person that opens the mail-in ballot. That's a large amount of people that might give a fuck.
Good! Now fucking cut the CDC out of all health decisions.
There is sooooo much fuckery going on with this china flu reporting right now.
And our whole country is shut down because of the dishonest bullshit of this bad case of the fucking flu.
Someone needs to go to jail for reporting false data that is being used to destroy America.
wow Just when I was pondering what is more politically corrupt, the WHO or the CDC..nice job GEOTUS
the CDC are LIARS, and deeply involved in the Coup to remove trump. they planned the entire hoax. Here is data directly from Texas HHS. it shows that Covid isn't even as bad as the regular FLU.
https://i.imgur.com/mGFAABB.jpg
About time... We need to put the grown-ups in charge here.
What if coronavirus was a sting operation the whole time?
Dumb fuck CDC hasn't updated their fatality rates since the end of APRIL! Let's look at the CDC weekly deaths due to COVID and wonder why they haven't updated their fatality rate since April 29.
4/25/2020 15,209
5/2/2020 12,969
5/9/2020 10,949
5/16/2020 8,933
5/23/2020 6,932
5/30/2020 5,850
6/6/2020 4,617
6/13/2020 3,668
6/20/2020 2,783
6/27/2020 1,463
7/4/2020 522
7/11/2020 181
I fucking wonder why!
Best news I read today, in the early morning beginnings. May we all receive the real stats, on Covid-19 tests and patients, within the next seven days....
God. I hope this is fucken true. We need the truth to be told. KEK.Motherfuckers
Thank god, now we can finally stop listening to the Karens screeching about rising numbers
This might be bigger than we think.
The data doesn't support the narrative, therefor it has to be manipulated. Unfortunately for the medical/pharma establishment, those in charge of manipulating things are doing a piss poor job.
And watch the numbers drop. not by half, but by 75%.
Watch. If it does? BE angry. Do not stand for this shit any further.
The scam stops NOW
That's pretty fucked up when the President of the United State's cannot even trust our own CDC. CLEAN HOUSE!
Our Don gives em a chance. If they screw up.. you’re FIRED.
Cut the bureaucratic tape and then we will see the finish line. Not tired of winning. We give no fucks about the WHO and we don't give fucks about 501(c)(3) CDC. They are hired hands and now they can go kindly stick their Bolshevik fist up their own ass. Sorry for the graphic.
The left are going insane, they are corrupting everything just to "resist"
HEYO
DO IT!
CDC = CCP
Lol now the cdc is owned by democrats 🤦♀️
Close the CdC chd trafficking scheme
But...muh inflation. Can they go back and correct the previous data too? Asking for a friend. Death count would be cut in half {at least]
The Gates Foundation donated $2.2 million to the CDC Foundation in late 2019.