From someone that has been trying to push that point for years, good luck. No one seems to get that a gay couple cannot PRODUCE a child from within their marriage, the whole POINT of tax deductions is to promote creating more taxpayers.
My gay relative is against gays being able to adopt. His logic is that children need both a mother and a father for a healthy childhood. Way too much logic for modern people to handle though.
My response to that argument was always "Oh, no.... I don't recommend love as a reason to get married AT ALL." It's like literally the worst reason if you think about it.
There are gay people in this community too. People that do NOT fuck around and get aids but who happen to like it up their asses.
Not me, but just saying. A vote from a gay Trumper is a vote and he doesn't hunt in the hetero dating pool but instead takes another, likely attractive, guy with him! What's not to like?
Exactly. I don't get these assholes justifying their "uh gay marriage is heineous and gross and shouldn't exist. For one, gay people shouldn't have children. Marriage is about children and is sacred. Don't you know it might make kids confused?"
Come on are you forgetting all of the leftists that get married and have abortions and call it "a clump of cells" because they want to live child free? Or the ones that divorce and fight over custody of children and screw them up mentally? The people who beat their children and rape them in straight marriages is very high too, and you're telling me gay people shouldn't get married because some gay people suck? On that logic, no one should fucking get married.
Marriage is already a travesty in many cases, it was never objectively sacred. Hell, legal divorce started back in 1527. The main point of legally registering marriage is legal protections. It's a contract and should be considered a commitment. If you want to ascribe whatever other meanings to marriage, you can, in your own private marriage.
I'm going to repost this since I didn't get an answer yet. The safest place for any child to be is living with two married biological parents.
It is probably illegal to study the connection between homosexuals and child abuse, or at least it will certainly get you fired and end your career.
But consider these facts: the vast majority of child sexual predators are males. And almost a third of child sexual abuse victims are boys. Less than 1% of men are homosexuals.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1077559509342125
This study in the Netherlands shows that adoptive parents are less likely to abuse children than step parents. In fact the risk of abuse is elevated for stepparents but not for adoptive families. I think that gay people would be more likely to be adoptive parents than step parents.
Thanks for posting your info though. I would like to see more studies just like you.
The vast majority of child sexual predators are not males, just as the vast majority of rapists are not males. The numbers are about even, but the data is suppressed by both feminists and chest beating traditionalists. Survey data of male sex offenders shows that almost all of them were abused by someone of the opposite sex.
I think it has to do with the obvious observation (basic subconscious pattern-matching) that gay men tend to be way more deviant and degenerate.
And this would make sense -- humanity has spent literally hundreds of thousands of years trying to regulate sexuality in a productive way in order to optimize for offspring survival. And even though we are 'liberated' by contraceptives, nothing about how our psyche revolves around sex has changed all that much. Just look at the preoccupation people have with sexual assault, even though most of it is objectively a complete nothing burger compared to being physically hurt.
Because even though sex is like our biggest drive, it is completely taboo outside a very, very small circle of situations that we have deemed permissible. And this is ingrained into our bones from birth.
But a lot of these taboos (most?) revolve 100% around hetero sex and go right out the window when talking about homosexual men sex, which makes people wary about being tolerant to male homosexuality in general, especially when they see the sort of stuff on display at a typical pride parade.
The conclusion here is, I believe, that the proper course of action involves actually encouraging gay marriage (with all the super strict laws about divorce and stuff to go along with it) so as to encourage homosexual monogamy and rather ban stuff like pride parades or whatever else promotes the sort of deviant behavior that goes against our collective taboos around sex. Make gay people follow the same taboos as everyone else and I think you'd see a lot less homophobia
How else would I sell gayness to a nongay person? I think I did pretty well. But don't drive the gays away. We need every vote. If you want to hate on something, hate on trans-people. In 98 % of cases, those are just insane. So you have my blessing. But your average gay person just likes to... well do gay stuff.
Far point. Nothing against people who are gay but in terms of offspring and building a society the only thing you have to offer is the tax you pay on goods and services.
Tax breaks for married couples (that can produce kids) really helps the local economy as raising kids pumps a lot of money into it.
Sure. Married people with kids can claim their children as dependents. Why should straight married couples without children have tax breaks under your logic? The ones who are child free and get abortions?
They shouldn’t. In a perfect system, they have kids then get the tax break. But giving a tax break to straight married couples produces a more likely scenario where that couple decides have children. Those offspring are the most desirable for a society.
Could be they've just observed the decline of the West due to the slippery slope of "We just want to be allowed to get married, we don't want to push our agenda on anyone..."
Not only that but homosexuality literally benefits no one. It's a road of pleasure that knocks on deaths door. God didn't say it was pure confusion lightly.
I feel bad having to have this out, because people dont choose homosexuality, but we've been elevating and praising hedonism homosexuality for the last 10 years when its literally valueless to society.
Of course they choose it. Every thought and every action and every word spoken by all people are choice. The temptation or desire however is not choice but the act, and mind-set to dabble or dwell in it is 100% choice.
Makessense. you want to give tax breaks to people who produce offspring. Not people who live hedonistic 5-way sex parties until they die of aids.
From someone that has been trying to push that point for years, good luck. No one seems to get that a gay couple cannot PRODUCE a child from within their marriage, the whole POINT of tax deductions is to promote creating more taxpayers.
Got a liberal out of my life recently by pointing out that they are not real parents, this was apparently extremely offensive...
My gay relative is against gays being able to adopt. His logic is that children need both a mother and a father for a healthy childhood. Way too much logic for modern people to handle though.
Even gay couples have tops and bottoms. Ask Barry and Big Mike.
Bi here, gay people should not adopt.
There is nothing wrong with supremacy.
If you say so my fellow white person
Noooooo! That’s ignorant! Marriage is about Wuuuuuvvvv!
My response to that argument was always "Oh, no.... I don't recommend love as a reason to get married AT ALL." It's like literally the worst reason if you think about it.
Can confirm. Real love doesn't found a marriage but is the fruit a series of hard choices.
My answer is "Marriage ain't about you".
Good job getting her, she has a good brain.
You mean penalize anyone who's relationship is on the approved government list? None of it is the government's business in the first place.
Amen. The sodomites are not reproducers, they are recruiters. And they will all prey on children given the opportunity.
There are gay people in this community too. People that do NOT fuck around and get aids but who happen to like it up their asses.
Not me, but just saying. A vote from a gay Trumper is a vote and he doesn't hunt in the hetero dating pool but instead takes another, likely attractive, guy with him! What's not to like?
Exactly. I don't get these assholes justifying their "uh gay marriage is heineous and gross and shouldn't exist. For one, gay people shouldn't have children. Marriage is about children and is sacred. Don't you know it might make kids confused?"
Come on are you forgetting all of the leftists that get married and have abortions and call it "a clump of cells" because they want to live child free? Or the ones that divorce and fight over custody of children and screw them up mentally? The people who beat their children and rape them in straight marriages is very high too, and you're telling me gay people shouldn't get married because some gay people suck? On that logic, no one should fucking get married.
Marriage is already a travesty in many cases, it was never objectively sacred. Hell, legal divorce started back in 1527. The main point of legally registering marriage is legal protections. It's a contract and should be considered a commitment. If you want to ascribe whatever other meanings to marriage, you can, in your own private marriage.
I'm going to repost this since I didn't get an answer yet. The safest place for any child to be is living with two married biological parents.
It is probably illegal to study the connection between homosexuals and child abuse, or at least it will certainly get you fired and end your career.
But consider these facts: the vast majority of child sexual predators are males. And almost a third of child sexual abuse victims are boys. Less than 1% of men are homosexuals.
So you do the math yourself
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1077559509342125 This study in the Netherlands shows that adoptive parents are less likely to abuse children than step parents. In fact the risk of abuse is elevated for stepparents but not for adoptive families. I think that gay people would be more likely to be adoptive parents than step parents.
Thanks for posting your info though. I would like to see more studies just like you.
The vast majority of child sexual predators are not males, just as the vast majority of rapists are not males. The numbers are about even, but the data is suppressed by both feminists and chest beating traditionalists. Survey data of male sex offenders shows that almost all of them were abused by someone of the opposite sex.
I think it has to do with the obvious observation (basic subconscious pattern-matching) that gay men tend to be way more deviant and degenerate.
And this would make sense -- humanity has spent literally hundreds of thousands of years trying to regulate sexuality in a productive way in order to optimize for offspring survival. And even though we are 'liberated' by contraceptives, nothing about how our psyche revolves around sex has changed all that much. Just look at the preoccupation people have with sexual assault, even though most of it is objectively a complete nothing burger compared to being physically hurt.
Because even though sex is like our biggest drive, it is completely taboo outside a very, very small circle of situations that we have deemed permissible. And this is ingrained into our bones from birth.
But a lot of these taboos (most?) revolve 100% around hetero sex and go right out the window when talking about homosexual men sex, which makes people wary about being tolerant to male homosexuality in general, especially when they see the sort of stuff on display at a typical pride parade.
The conclusion here is, I believe, that the proper course of action involves actually encouraging gay marriage (with all the super strict laws about divorce and stuff to go along with it) so as to encourage homosexual monogamy and rather ban stuff like pride parades or whatever else promotes the sort of deviant behavior that goes against our collective taboos around sex. Make gay people follow the same taboos as everyone else and I think you'd see a lot less homophobia
Did you think that would sell me?
How else would I sell gayness to a nongay person? I think I did pretty well. But don't drive the gays away. We need every vote. If you want to hate on something, hate on trans-people. In 98 % of cases, those are just insane. So you have my blessing. But your average gay person just likes to... well do gay stuff.
Don't drive away the gay ones we have!
You think telling women women that gay men take attractive men out of the dating pool is going to garner support?
Far point. Nothing against people who are gay but in terms of offspring and building a society the only thing you have to offer is the tax you pay on goods and services.
Tax breaks for married couples (that can produce kids) really helps the local economy as raising kids pumps a lot of money into it.
Sure. Married people with kids can claim their children as dependents. Why should straight married couples without children have tax breaks under your logic? The ones who are child free and get abortions?
They shouldn’t. In a perfect system, they have kids then get the tax break. But giving a tax break to straight married couples produces a more likely scenario where that couple decides have children. Those offspring are the most desirable for a society.
You know that there’s a joint filing tax break, and a whole other tax break for dependents, right?
Exactly, and why would they need the tax break?
Could be they've just observed the decline of the West due to the slippery slope of "We just want to be allowed to get married, we don't want to push our agenda on anyone..."
Not only that but homosexuality literally benefits no one. It's a road of pleasure that knocks on deaths door. God didn't say it was pure confusion lightly.
I feel bad having to have this out, because people dont choose homosexuality, but we've been elevating and praising hedonism homosexuality for the last 10 years when its literally valueless to society.
Of course they choose it. Every thought and every action and every word spoken by all people are choice. The temptation or desire however is not choice but the act, and mind-set to dabble or dwell in it is 100% choice.