Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis
Always amazes me the capacity for people to exercise a little petty tyranny over the lives of their neighbours.
The first point is just plain stupid: Thousands of people die from car accidents. Leftists still use cars afaik. Thousands of people die from the flu every year. Leftists do leave their homes during flu season, last time I checked.
The second point is tragic,. These guys forgot how our society works: Without "getting back to our lives", meaning no jobs, no schools, reduced consumer spending ... the economy is dead. Higher suicide rates, depression, alcohol/drug abuse, lower life expectancy ... Whoever posts this on Facebook is either ignorant or malicious.
Not surprised that the left propagates fear (point 3). This is all they have going for them.
Big irony on the last point: Democrats use COVID-19 as a political weapon to get Biden elected.
😂 “Scrooge McDuck” haha! You’re so right! Thanks for the laugh, friend. I really needed a good chuckle. Side note: this really IS how they see money/wealth. Ridiculously tragic and detrimental frame of mind.
I just argue getting everyone who can survive COVID infected so we can build herd immunity should be priority. Latest studies show re-infection rates to be much lower than previously thought.
Get Sick, Get Better, don't kill Grammy when she can finally leave the house.(earlier than waiting it out in quarantine.)
Sweden did this. They're fine. The riots did this in part, and death rates fell. We can do it too. Stop the alarmism.
Young children have no tolerance for bullshit mental gymnastics. If you're fat, they call you fat and tell you that you should eat less cake. If you're ugly, they tell you so. If your idea is stupid, they tell you so.
My 7 year old has to wear a mask to go back to school. The very first time she put it on, she said "Can't the virus just come out the sides?"
Yes, sweetie, it can. You're not wearing it to actually help, you're wearing it because your teachers are fucking pussies.
That's true. Unfortunately these days a lot of children are given their opinions by a hole teachers at a very early age. The damn commies groom kids as much as the perverts do. When children are repeating dumb opinions given to them by leftists, then i laugh.
The left claims to care about mental health issues and domestic abuse, but they left liquor stores open which created toxic situations where women and children were forced to quarantine with abusive alcoholics. Fuck the left.
We can never go back to normal then because thousands of people die every day from all sorts of illnesses and diseases and accidents, if we ever reopen then that would be like saying their deaths are insignificant, according to that retarded logic
People dying is a side effect of being a human and living life, we know this, and we accept it
This is their logic for everything. Replace COVID in that chart with any SJW BS and you now have the formula for how they try to you shame to get what they want.
Nothing in this world kills more people than unnecessary poverty. Over reaction to China-19 Flu has killed more people than the disease. Even more have died by politicians and Pharmaceutical investors restricting the distribution of HCQ and using intentionally biased "studies" funded by those with a vested interest in selling expensive alternatives to justify their murderous actions.
lol on his first one - “the thousands of people who die from COVID each week”. Haha he already admits he doesn’t follow the daily and weekly COVID death counts in US
“the thousands of people who die from COVID each week”
Akctually, it's MILLIONS of people who die from COVID each week if you pay attention to President (elect apparent) Biden (D-mentia), who said we have 120,000,000 already dead from COVID.
Soon we will be living in a post apocalyptic zombie nation so I'm not so sure "living" is really living. Good incentive to wear your mask, even in your home, car or paddle boarding in the middle of the ocean.
You're not wearing the mask for yourself, it's to protect others "You need to make sure you live your life in a way that benefits other people while simultaneously harming yourself."
What's more important: the economy or the lives of other people? "It's worth sacrificing the prosperity, safety, wealth and happiness of hundreds of millions of young and able-bodied adults, families, and children because 130,000 profoundly brittle octogenarians will succumb to a virus rather than their litany of comorbidities they are living with"
We need to ensure hospitals don't get overwhelmed "CNN told me ICUs are at 80-90% capacity but what they didn't tell me is most of the time, ICUs are at 80-90% capacity."
The amount of new cases has doubled since last month and continues to rise "I'm unable to comprehend that number of cases increasing twofold is not keeping pace with the number of tests performed, which is sevenfold. And despite this, hospitalization and death rate is still half of last year's annual Influenza season."
I don't know anyone that refuses the hysteria boil it down to one sentence. But I do see the hysterical people boiling down their side of conversation to meaningless reductionist platitudes all the time.
I've begun muting old friends on Facebook / Instagram, which I try to limit regardless. The amount of armchair warriors that have come out of this virus and the riots is unbearable. Sadly most of these folks are "educated" in the sense of having at least an undergraduate degree. Speaks volumes to the infiltration of groupthink.
You don't have any right not to get sick and die. You do have a right to leave your home. This "kid" sounds like someone living with mommy and daddy still and has no responsibilities outside of sitting at home posting on the internet. He feels no inconvenience since he never leaves the house to begin with.
I was cautiously optimistic that COVID was not as big of a threat as people were making it out to be. In Houston, we attempted to re-open and within a few weeks our hospital ICU's reached >90% capacity.
The concern about government over-reach and the concern about the threat of COVID are not mutually exclusive. You can have both. My feeling now is that if we're missing either one, there's a problem.
Government should not force anyone to wear a mask, but its still a very good idea to wear one. And it would be much appreciated by everyone in your local town.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis
Always amazes me the capacity for people to exercise a little petty tyranny over the lives of their neighbours.
AKA Germany circa early 1930s leads to Germany circa 1939-1945.
Also see: Modern Day Venezuela. One of the richest nations in the Western Hemisphere, now a socialist shithole, all in less than a few decades.
Such a timely quote
Robber barons is a myth anyway
The first point is just plain stupid: Thousands of people die from car accidents. Leftists still use cars afaik. Thousands of people die from the flu every year. Leftists do leave their homes during flu season, last time I checked.
The second point is tragic,. These guys forgot how our society works: Without "getting back to our lives", meaning no jobs, no schools, reduced consumer spending ... the economy is dead. Higher suicide rates, depression, alcohol/drug abuse, lower life expectancy ... Whoever posts this on Facebook is either ignorant or malicious.
Not surprised that the left propagates fear (point 3). This is all they have going for them. Big irony on the last point: Democrats use COVID-19 as a political weapon to get Biden elected.
😂 “Scrooge McDuck” haha! You’re so right! Thanks for the laugh, friend. I really needed a good chuckle. Side note: this really IS how they see money/wealth. Ridiculously tragic and detrimental frame of mind.
Always pin them down on "how many deaths is acceptable?"
it shows just how dumb they are and how they don't care, it's just a angle for them to work for political reasons
I always hate these "what you say vs. what I hear" posts. They're so fucking ignorant and they're putting words into people's mouths.
Such a good point. The fact they can’t see that connection is very troubling.
I just argue getting everyone who can survive COVID infected so we can build herd immunity should be priority. Latest studies show re-infection rates to be much lower than previously thought.
Get Sick, Get Better, don't kill Grammy when she can finally leave the house.(earlier than waiting it out in quarantine.)
Sweden did this. They're fine. The riots did this in part, and death rates fell. We can do it too. Stop the alarmism.
Speed the spread save the herd. Pox parties for the win
This is why grown men laugh at the opinions of children
Young children have no tolerance for bullshit mental gymnastics. If you're fat, they call you fat and tell you that you should eat less cake. If you're ugly, they tell you so. If your idea is stupid, they tell you so.
My 7 year old has to wear a mask to go back to school. The very first time she put it on, she said "Can't the virus just come out the sides?"
Yes, sweetie, it can. You're not wearing it to actually help, you're wearing it because your teachers are fucking pussies.
That's true. Unfortunately these days a lot of children are given their opinions by a hole teachers at a very early age. The damn commies groom kids as much as the perverts do. When children are repeating dumb opinions given to them by leftists, then i laugh.
90% of the reason the radical left exist is shitty parenting. I'm so glad my awesome wife agreed to homeschool.
Southern trump girls are best girls. She redpilled me on trump.
"adult leftist". A true leftist is either malicious or hasn't grown up yet.
The left claims to care about mental health issues and domestic abuse, but they left liquor stores open which created toxic situations where women and children were forced to quarantine with abusive alcoholics. Fuck the left.
The last "what I hear" is the sincere truth about the left. They absolutely would not be panicking about this dud 2nd wave without political motives
We can never go back to normal then because thousands of people die every day from all sorts of illnesses and diseases and accidents, if we ever reopen then that would be like saying their deaths are insignificant, according to that retarded logic
People dying is a side effect of being a human and living life, we know this, and we accept it
This is their logic for everything. Replace COVID in that chart with any SJW BS and you now have the formula for how they try to you shame to get what they want.
Nothing in this world kills more people than unnecessary poverty. Over reaction to China-19 Flu has killed more people than the disease. Even more have died by politicians and Pharmaceutical investors restricting the distribution of HCQ and using intentionally biased "studies" funded by those with a vested interest in selling expensive alternatives to justify their murderous actions.
The whole "What I hear" side is an opinion filter that puts words in that weren't there before.
You could've just read the original and made up your own mind.
lol on his first one - “the thousands of people who die from COVID each week”. Haha he already admits he doesn’t follow the daily and weekly COVID death counts in US
Akctually, it's MILLIONS of people who die from COVID each week if you pay attention to President (elect apparent) Biden (D-mentia), who said we have 120,000,000 already dead from COVID.
Yeah, I was shocked to hear 1/3 of the country was wiped out. My state must have been one of the lucky ones, I guess!
Soon we will be living in a post apocalyptic zombie nation so I'm not so sure "living" is really living. Good incentive to wear your mask, even in your home, car or paddle boarding in the middle of the ocean.
Near as I can tell, we've already used up the entire population of the Earth, so those must be Martian death counts by now.
This is exactly why I don’t go on Facebook.
What they say vs what I hear...
You're not wearing the mask for yourself, it's to protect others "You need to make sure you live your life in a way that benefits other people while simultaneously harming yourself."
What's more important: the economy or the lives of other people? "It's worth sacrificing the prosperity, safety, wealth and happiness of hundreds of millions of young and able-bodied adults, families, and children because 130,000 profoundly brittle octogenarians will succumb to a virus rather than their litany of comorbidities they are living with"
We need to ensure hospitals don't get overwhelmed "CNN told me ICUs are at 80-90% capacity but what they didn't tell me is most of the time, ICUs are at 80-90% capacity."
The amount of new cases has doubled since last month and continues to rise "I'm unable to comprehend that number of cases increasing twofold is not keeping pace with the number of tests performed, which is sevenfold. And despite this, hospitalization and death rate is still half of last year's annual Influenza season."
I don't know anyone that refuses the hysteria boil it down to one sentence. But I do see the hysterical people boiling down their side of conversation to meaningless reductionist platitudes all the time.
An example of toxic personal boundaries, pure and simple.
Blame others for what you are giilty of. Deny deny deny! The left have lost their minds, the little ones they had!
I've begun muting old friends on Facebook / Instagram, which I try to limit regardless. The amount of armchair warriors that have come out of this virus and the riots is unbearable. Sadly most of these folks are "educated" in the sense of having at least an undergraduate degree. Speaks volumes to the infiltration of groupthink.
At this point, with people like this, you're never going to change their minds.
They're "glass half empty" types, only their 'half' is like 99.8%
This is why its useless trying to talk to a full faith lefty WHAT YOU SAID/=/WHAT I HEARD it's not about reality no honest discourse can be had
I agree with everything on the left. (The left side of this column)
muh feels
What you say: ReEeEeEEEE!! What I hear: ReEeEeEEEE!
I'd tell them they really need to have their hearing checked.
With these people just call them cowards and tell them to go inside.
That last one is absolutely hilarious coming from the left.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
You don't have any right not to get sick and die. You do have a right to leave your home. This "kid" sounds like someone living with mommy and daddy still and has no responsibilities outside of sitting at home posting on the internet. He feels no inconvenience since he never leaves the house to begin with.
What you say: logical thought constructed after careful consideration What I hear: STRAWMANS STRAWMANS STRAWMANS LOGICAL EXTREMES
Let's play pretend!
Why do you think that?
I checked yes, 5 for 5...
What do I win??
Pretty much facts being countered with emotion.
Typical Leftist playbook.
Replace "Covid-19" with "flu" and read again.
That last one is rich.
He assumes the crisis is real
I was cautiously optimistic that COVID was not as big of a threat as people were making it out to be. In Houston, we attempted to re-open and within a few weeks our hospital ICU's reached >90% capacity.
The concern about government over-reach and the concern about the threat of COVID are not mutually exclusive. You can have both. My feeling now is that if we're missing either one, there's a problem.
Government should not force anyone to wear a mask, but its still a very good idea to wear one. And it would be much appreciated by everyone in your local town.