I’m Italian - and I was supremely ticked off when the outrage mob was threatening the local Columbus Statue.
On Deddit, I encountered someone who listed “better Italians” that should have statues. When I said “Italians will pick whoever they like to represent them” his response was “As long as it doesn’t offend my people.”
I laid into him. I told him “Your people were practicing human sacrifice and cannibalism when my people arrived. In fact, the word cannibal is derived from one of two things: it is a corruption of the word “Carib” - the name given to the people of the Caribbean, or it was the name of a particularly savage tribe, the Canib - who frequently raided towns, villages, and Columbus’ camps - and ate the people the captured.
So, the idea that your ancestors were dignified, noble people living in tranquility is BS. They perpetrated far worse on their own people than Columbus ever did.”
Any time I have pointed this out the goalposts move.
"Ok Native Americans owned slaves, but their nations aren't the subject here because they don't have power. White people and the United States are what we need to focus on."
They also imagine the Indians as one cohesive unit, instead of a number of tribes that had their own politics and conflicts. Some tribes loved us, and then there were some that hated us. You know the more I describe them, the more they sound like actual people.
Not just the Indians it happens with the barbarian tribes that overthrew the Western Roman Empire. These were just "immigrants" seeking to better themselves and it was a peaceful transition from Empire to the fractured Barbarian Successor states. Peter Heather in his Fall of Rome book does an excellent job refuting that idea. Well researched and written I highly recommend it.
Exactly! How do they not notice how racist it is, saying Indians were all just living peacefully together singing kumbaya? They're not some exotic pet, specially bred to live at one with nature. They're people, human beings that do good things and bad!
Based Dilbert merchant Scott Adams talks frequently about this. When calculating reparations, the real comparison that a data expert would look at would be the difference in quality of life of people in Africa versus the quality of life of African Americans.
Right. You never really hear "Just leave then!" in other countries because that's quite literally what everyone wants to do. GTFO and go somewhere with actual opportunity like the USA.
That look when cognitive dissonance gets tested.
Cognitive Dissonance True Awakening: Always looks like someone just got a hard right hand from Mike Tyson!
Enslaving each other was so damn common. The noble savage myth is all these granola crunching, dirt fucking hippies believe in.
Blame the French "philosphers" of the Jacobin (father of "marxism) persuasion.
Rousseau I think.
Always conquerers who use this revisionist "race" history tactic.
Ignorance is as bad as crack in turning people into total criminals.
I’m Italian - and I was supremely ticked off when the outrage mob was threatening the local Columbus Statue.
On Deddit, I encountered someone who listed “better Italians” that should have statues. When I said “Italians will pick whoever they like to represent them” his response was “As long as it doesn’t offend my people.”
I laid into him. I told him “Your people were practicing human sacrifice and cannibalism when my people arrived. In fact, the word cannibal is derived from one of two things: it is a corruption of the word “Carib” - the name given to the people of the Caribbean, or it was the name of a particularly savage tribe, the Canib - who frequently raided towns, villages, and Columbus’ camps - and ate the people the captured.
So, the idea that your ancestors were dignified, noble people living in tranquility is BS. They perpetrated far worse on their own people than Columbus ever did.”
Hence why only 5 tribes made it to "Civilized" status.
Any time I have pointed this out the goalposts move.
"Ok Native Americans owned slaves, but their nations aren't the subject here because they don't have power. White people and the United States are what we need to focus on."
Dude black people owned slaves.
They also imagine the Indians as one cohesive unit, instead of a number of tribes that had their own politics and conflicts. Some tribes loved us, and then there were some that hated us. You know the more I describe them, the more they sound like actual people.
Not just the Indians it happens with the barbarian tribes that overthrew the Western Roman Empire. These were just "immigrants" seeking to better themselves and it was a peaceful transition from Empire to the fractured Barbarian Successor states. Peter Heather in his Fall of Rome book does an excellent job refuting that idea. Well researched and written I highly recommend it.
Exactly! How do they not notice how racist it is, saying Indians were all just living peacefully together singing kumbaya? They're not some exotic pet, specially bred to live at one with nature. They're people, human beings that do good things and bad!
Well ain’t history a bitch
He even touched his ear. Probably thought his brain was leaking out
If anything, black people owe whites reparations, because if whites had not brought their ancestors here, they’d be living in the shithole of Africa.
Based Dilbert merchant Scott Adams talks frequently about this. When calculating reparations, the real comparison that a data expert would look at would be the difference in quality of life of people in Africa versus the quality of life of African Americans.
The fact that they aren't fleeing to Africa kind of underlines the point.
We should do Liberia again for the BLMers. Is Greenland still for sale?
Right. You never really hear "Just leave then!" in other countries because that's quite literally what everyone wants to do. GTFO and go somewhere with actual opportunity like the USA.
Imagine if the US gov't had all the money back it has spent on housing, feeding and playing daddy to the baby mommas.
Now, that’s the persuasive way of doing it. I wonder why? 😉
now that's spicy
Need that spice for my mud cookies.
Or for those that died in the CIvil War. Don't even have the decency to say thank you.
Now THAT'S the real spicy comment
Their ancestors probably would have died of malaria in Africa.
Or from getting eaten by hungry hungry hippos.
Objective thinking is racist, bigots!
https://thedonald.win/p/GIlQRyei/a-war-against-objective-thinking/c/