I'm white and have a Native ancestor for that very reason. When Natives talk about what my people have done I become indignant with their ignorant asses with good cause.
That's not true: the tribe in my family tree was totally being genocided. In fact, they were down to 300 people at one point.
They were being killed in mass by their neighboring tribes and even their former tribe mates.
Then white people showed up. The tribe was incredibly peaceful (hence the violence they suffered, but just to stress this was a rare culture in the tribes) so they immediately made friends. Many Americans joined the tribe (because unlike most, they weren't racist). Suddenly, they had guns and allies. Their numbers exploded to over 3000, and they became one of the anchors of the entire plain Indian group.
Their territory ended up growing so large that they ended up donating land for reservations... To the very groups that had been killing them off a few generations before.
What I said was that there was no genocide of Indians (in general) by WHITES.
Many or most Indian tribes weren't friendly towards each other. Indians of one tribe killed Indians of other tribes all the time. If your ancestors' tribe was peaceful and was not attacking the other tribe back, and the other tribe was killing them to put an end to their tribe, then they definitely wanted to commit genocide.
Wait, people did do around hunting Indians. After 1849, in California there were general extermination campaigns run to kill natives. History is a complicated mire. Beware easy truths to satisfy todays needs.
Hunting and killing Indians that were not a danger to whites and.or not attacking/killing them was not a government policy or standard behavior.
Or, if there was a particular group of Indians that was attacking whites, I can see white people wanting to do away with that particular group, but whites did no commit genocide towards the Indians in general. The plan was always reserving land for the Indians, rather than doing away with them. There was no genocide of Indians by whites.
I guess I have to pull out my book collection to offer some good examples, but I do know that in California natives were not citizens and were not legally people and were openly hunted in campaigns of extermination in the bay area. There is a lot of political nonsense around words like genocide and holocaust.
In some cases retributive violence was used to excess. In limited cases tribes were hunted to extinction or driven to extinction through public policy written with full knowledge of the effects. History is tragic, but the extermination of natives wasnt a fair, nice, justified affair. It was a bloody mess, we won this territory by force of arms. America became an empire. We can acknowledge those facts and still salute our flag. We are humans, not perfect like God. Our creatioms always include the good with the evil.
They were lucky it was the white man that conquered them. If it was some other civilization, they would have never been given their reservation. Seeing how they treat other tribes, they almost died how they lived.
Exterminated. Taken as slaves and sacrificed. Erased from history.
You're in deep trouble if you haven't discovered/invented the wheel and are just prancing around land rich in resources and space. The Arabs would have loved conquering Native America.
maybe it is okay that we killed indians now?
Indians killed white people too, and contrary to what leftards say, there was no genocide of Indians.
White people didn't go around hunting Indians to kill them, nor did they gather them out of the blue and shot them dead.
There were fights, and there was illness; that's how many Indians died.
To be fair it was exactly what they did amongst themselves before we even got here.
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Wait until they learn what native Americans did to women and young girls of competing tribes.
Gonna be a lot of tendies spilled on that whole piece of history!
I'm white and have a Native ancestor for that very reason. When Natives talk about what my people have done I become indignant with their ignorant asses with good cause.
That's not true: the tribe in my family tree was totally being genocided. In fact, they were down to 300 people at one point.
They were being killed in mass by their neighboring tribes and even their former tribe mates.
Then white people showed up. The tribe was incredibly peaceful (hence the violence they suffered, but just to stress this was a rare culture in the tribes) so they immediately made friends. Many Americans joined the tribe (because unlike most, they weren't racist). Suddenly, they had guns and allies. Their numbers exploded to over 3000, and they became one of the anchors of the entire plain Indian group.
Their territory ended up growing so large that they ended up donating land for reservations... To the very groups that had been killing them off a few generations before.
Wow, that’s a very interesting story. I’d like to learn more about it. Do you have any place I could go to check it out?
What I said was that there was no genocide of Indians (in general) by WHITES.
Many or most Indian tribes weren't friendly towards each other. Indians of one tribe killed Indians of other tribes all the time. If your ancestors' tribe was peaceful and was not attacking the other tribe back, and the other tribe was killing them to put an end to their tribe, then they definitely wanted to commit genocide.
Wait, people did do around hunting Indians. After 1849, in California there were general extermination campaigns run to kill natives. History is a complicated mire. Beware easy truths to satisfy todays needs.
There are bad people in all races and groups.
Hunting and killing Indians that were not a danger to whites and.or not attacking/killing them was not a government policy or standard behavior.
Or, if there was a particular group of Indians that was attacking whites, I can see white people wanting to do away with that particular group, but whites did no commit genocide towards the Indians in general. The plan was always reserving land for the Indians, rather than doing away with them. There was no genocide of Indians by whites.
I guess I have to pull out my book collection to offer some good examples, but I do know that in California natives were not citizens and were not legally people and were openly hunted in campaigns of extermination in the bay area. There is a lot of political nonsense around words like genocide and holocaust.
In some cases retributive violence was used to excess. In limited cases tribes were hunted to extinction or driven to extinction through public policy written with full knowledge of the effects. History is tragic, but the extermination of natives wasnt a fair, nice, justified affair. It was a bloody mess, we won this territory by force of arms. America became an empire. We can acknowledge those facts and still salute our flag. We are humans, not perfect like God. Our creatioms always include the good with the evil.
I know, I was just speaking in terms of Cheadles thoughts ;)
They were lucky it was the white man that conquered them. If it was some other civilization, they would have never been given their reservation. Seeing how they treat other tribes, they almost died how they lived.
Exterminated. Taken as slaves and sacrificed. Erased from history.
You're in deep trouble if you haven't discovered/invented the wheel and are just prancing around land rich in resources and space. The Arabs would have loved conquering Native America.