The way it should be. If someone chooses to wear their mask, so be it. No harm, no foul. But don't mandate it on the populace when the data is so erratic that it's 100% political at this point.
So I know I'm gong to get a lot of hate, but I also posted on another one of these threads about masks and I'm going to stick to my guns here - Question first: If they had proof that if everyone wore a mask when in public, we'd kick this in 1 month do you think everyone would do it? I think if we had evidence people still wouldn't wear them - even if it the fastest way to get the economy back to normal. I'm not saying there is proof that masks work - but just wondering where ya'll stand? I'm in the camp that knows its real because I had symptoms, tested positive, got over it - so I know it is real, and I have heard it is deadly to some (mostly old people). My symptoms were basically like the flu but shittier than any flu I've had. So I am sure this virus is real and I'm sure it spreads easier than the flu, cause I got it and wasn't around anyone that appeared sick. Since it spreads easier it is more deadly. I want to go back to work, but we're furloughed. I want to go back to my favorite bar, but can't - even with a mask. Now I hear from my doc that it is possible to catch it again. I don't like being told what to do either, but I think the masks may be something to try. I don't think the COVID gave a fuck that I voted for Trump when I got it - so I don't know how it is political - maybe the mask thing is getting politicized, but hell, I'm willing to try whatever it takes to get my life back to what it was last year
I think if there WAS proof that masks helped no everybody wouldnt wear them because the media would say the exact opposite and would report that masks are not necessary.
Just like they did with the HC + Zinc treatment. They shouldve been pushing that shit like crazy. But they did nothing but lie about it....and people still believe the lying media.
The anti mask hysteria was strongly pushed very early on by Chinese and Russian propagandists on social media. Think about it. China let this virus loose on us for a reason. To hurt us and to hurt the President who is actually tough on them. They do not want us to work together as Americans and beat it. They want us fighting each other instead of them and their bio weapon. So they played on the fact that people are very selfish and entitled. They won.
In 10 randomized clinical trials no evidence could be found that surgical masks prevent the transmission of influenza like viruses in the general population.
This is why they cannot be labeled as effective and carry a warning like not for medical use. It would be making a fraudulent medical claim and FDA would come down on it.
Laboratory tests showed the penetration of particles through the cloth masks to be very high (97%) compared with medical masks (44%) (used in trial) and 3M 9320 N95 (<0.01%), 3M Vflex 9105 N95 (0.1%).
That study was performed with HCWs (health care workers) .. who are exposed to significantly more and concentrated pathogens, ie worst case scenarios.
Conclusion from the study:
In the interest of providing safe, low-cost options in low income countries, there is scope for research into more effectively designed cloth masks, but until such research is carried out, cloth masks should not be recommended.
Thanks for the links pedes! I'm not going to run to all my leftist friends right away though; I'm going to try to find additional studies, both supporting and unsupporting, so I can really digest the information and understand the big picture first.
Next time I debate a headline reader I'm going to say "Don't ask me to Google it. Tell me in your own words. You must be able to if you believe it."
And that's with masks that are properly worn/changed/disposed of. The way most people use them "evidence suggests" this is actually helping to spread the virus.
Rates of infection were consistently higher among those in the cloth mask group than in the medical mask and control groups. This finding suggests that risk for infection was higher for those wearing cloth masks.
Filthy face diapers are just another platform that serve as concentrated disease vectors that are no different than "reusable" shopping bags.
For years, sensible people pointed out that eliminating plastic bags and enabling shoppers to bring in outside bags of questionable cleanliness was a classic case of liberal 'illogic'. (That is, promoting intentions/appearances over facts.)
Consider that most 'normal' (ie non homeless) people at least attempt to wear somewhat clean clothing. And, once dressed, unless they are extremely ill fitting and/or uncomfortable, people aren't typically playing with, adjusting, fidgeting their clothes.
The exact opposite is true with face diapers. For one, who washes them at all? Second, who isn't constantly touching, adjusting (or even putting on/taking off outside of the store) the fucking things?
So, you have your fingers all over this disease delivery system that then sits right over your mouth/nose delivering 100s of doses of concentrated virus per 'mask episode'. You're touching goods, looking, maybe taking them, sometimes returning. And your fellow shoppers? Doing the exact same thing!
And, for the final touch, instead of washing your lungs out with fresh, non CO2 recycled air, you get a twofer: you both reduce the opportunity for fresh air, while ensuring you breath in whatever is present on that dirty face rag.
It's crazy, and like the ban on re-usable bags that went right down the memory hole, this whole mask wearing business is going to reverse on itself, with governments and stores being sued for the ensuing increase in non CV related respiratory health issues.
agree about the masks, disagree about the bags. i'm not concerned about getting sick from a bag more than anything else i touch in public. which is not very concerned at all. i just wash my hands when i get home or before eating
Huge props b9k9 for laying out what I've been saying and what others have been saying for weeks, about this horrific plot to kill and sicken as many of us as they can without having to go to jail for it.
Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
Even fucking handwashing has no substantial effect on flu virus transmission. What???
Caveat: Chinese researchers. Beware! Could this be disinformation to get us to stop washing our hands?
It's not a find. It has been up since April. It is the most recent article about the topic of high quality, however. Interesting that it is by Hong Kong researchers.
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I read another study from Sweden IIRC that retrospectively examined the studies on the topic and concluded there is no scientific evidence to suggest surgical masks do anything to prevent infection during surgery.
There hasn't been a single study proving that masks stop the spread of the virus. Not one.
Not true. You can find a study to support any crazy conspiracy.
It's all just "evidence suggests."
Right. There are very few things in this world that exist beyond theory. And so, those are the words they use to be non-commital.
Now before you people get your e-peen all hard that I'm a masker-upper, and downvote because you do not agree. I'm not. I'm just pointing out facts. If you can prove I'm wrong, go ahead and downvote, but don't downvote because FEELINGS.
Exactly. Want to wear a mask? Fine. But don't harass and punish people for not wearing one. Stop putting up with this obvious discrimination, hysteria, and fear mongering.
It's crazy how sheep people are, the same people shaming everyone for not wearing masks are the same people if you told 9 months ago that the economy would be shut down from a common cold like virus and everyone would be required to wear masks while it's over 100 degrees outside they would call you a "conspiracy theorist".
I just heard a report saying that covid testing sites are failing to report negative cases and they can test one person across many days and count each test as one 'case'. People are being multiple-counted.
It's worse than that. In Florida we have had 300+ testing sites reporting 100 percent of their tests as positive. No problem, mask up, lockdown forever!
Wouldn't surprise me at all. I think personally the convention should take place over 3 locations and three days. Let trump give a speech on day 2 and 3, let Pence headline day 1.
I don't know the play on this, but almost all of my intuition is pointing to if trump loses in November, we will never hear of this virus again within a week.
Not reporting negative results is not quite the same thing as reporting 100% positive results. If you look at the relevant columns in the FL table it doesn't have 0 in the negative column, it has no number at all. Which looks more to me like non-reporting their negative cases than reporting they had zero negative cases. So I think that might explain the FL thing.
My mom's eye doctor had that happen to her, she was telling my mom that they were waiting to be tested but it took too long so they left, and a couple of days later they got a letter in the mail saying they were positive. It's unbelievable how the American people are just letting their government stop all over their liberties for a "virus" that obviously has inflated numbers.
Yeah, I'm seeing that all over. People who get in line to get tested and then leave the line because it's too long - then get an email later with positive results. How does that work? Did they somehow provide their email address before leaving the line?
Guest caller on local talk radio in Ohio told his story a few weeks ago, said he tested positive. Had to go through NINE retests to finally get a negative. Each time he tested positive, the State counted it as a new case!
They are currently trying to downplay saying, "It's only .1% of cases." It doesn't matter if it's .1% or 15% or .0001%. It still makes the numbers all fucked up.
Yes, this is what I thought. They're not saying they had zero negative results, they're just not reporting the negative results, only the positives. And it turns out that was by CDC directive. SMH
What am I supposed to do if I don’t want to wear a mask but where I live I won’t be able to walk into any business without one? I don’t want to lie and say I have some medical condition. What are my options? Not participate in our economy? Online only??
Yeah that’s the real problem. We can at least attempt to vote out governments who force masks. When every grocery store in your area forces masks, you can’t cast a vote and you no longer have the ability to ‘vote with your wallet’. You comply or give your money to Amazon. We’re running out of lawful options
I DO have a medical condition and have still been denied entry. I know people say "just walk in", heck I was one of them at one point, but if they're asking you to leave, that's more pushback than I'm willing to give.
Online orders seem to be the way to go for the most part. Works for everything from food to fun items.
I will say I saw something kinda disturbing a week ago. A guy came out of a store, practically ran to his car, and yanked his mask off gasping. UGH, there is no punishment for Wuhan Gruesome that would satisfy me!
Same situation -- i mostly use curbside pickup/delivery or go without a mask and just ignore everyone. I keep a medical one in my pocket and hold it up to my face or hang it off on ear if i really need to go inside.
I was wearing my full face motorcycle helmet, but that got a little uncomfortable -- maybe the dirt bike one will be better
If you go to the mall or any store or business that sells a drink, buy a small one and walk around with the straw on your lip and act like your drinking. Did this in the mall yesterday worked like a charm!
the populace doesn't even wear them properly. And those people are "okayed" as WEARING a mask, just because something is hanging off their ears, but because I do NOT have something hanging off my ears, I'm the baddie.
I think there’s a reason they push the cloth and “anything goes” masks. Laura did a segment last night on masks on her show that showed evidence you were MORE likely to get sick with a cloth mask, than no mask at all. The cloth absorbs the droplets and holds it on your face like a Petri dish. Like getting water boarded with the virus all day
I also think the purpose of the mask mandates is to allow AntiFA and the criminal behavior to operate. You can’t tell me everyone wearing a mask hasn’t assisted the massive rise in crime.
Masks are also being used to sow more division in the country. The media is portraying it as "good, virtuous people who wear masks" versus "selfish, dangerous people who refuse to wear masks."
The purpose of it also to keep people in "fear".....you see everyone wearing masks and you are reminded of "CoRoNA viRuS" and a "PanDemIc" happening. Instead of people gradually forgetting about it and ignoring the news.
Yes, I ask that question to people to help break the spell: "if you had no access to media and no one was wearing masks, would you even know this thing existed?"
You can't go back to normal until new government is installed. It's how a communist overthrow happens. Normal will come as the new normal after they rig the election and install new government
Common sense would tell you that putting a porous barrier over your mouth and nose is going to cause the mask to become a warm moist environment that will encourage the growth of not only viruses but also bacteria.
Also, hypothetically, what happens when you cough or sneeze? The virus-laden moisture in the pores of your mask is going to be forced out or “trampolined” into the air.
When they started this mask nonsense back in May (?) my first thought was that we’d be seeing Antifa violence in short order. Because in many states, especially southern states, the Antifa violence was shut down back in 2017 using state laws prohibiting masks at public gatherings. Remnants from KKK times.
the populace doesn't even wear them properly. And those people are "okayed" as WEARING a mask, just because something is hanging off their ears, but because I do NOT have something hanging off my ears, I'm the baddie.
Well said Sir. I hereby joke a toint in your honor.
The way it should be. If someone chooses to wear their mask, so be it. No harm, no foul. But don't mandate it on the populace when the data is so erratic that it's 100% political at this point.
There hasn't been a single study proving that masks stop the spread of the virus. Not one. It's all just "evidence suggests."
Evidence familiar with the virus’ thinking...
GA governor, Kemp showing Texas governor how to be a patriot.
Will Texans notice?
Abbott tried to stand against them, but couldn’t.
Oh we have notice. If he pulls a lockdown on Texas (he's dangling that over our heads) he will definitely have me in Austin protesting that shit.
No. Or yes. Some will, Some won't.
I'm noticing.
I support Abbott strongly but he needs to sack up.
So I know I'm gong to get a lot of hate, but I also posted on another one of these threads about masks and I'm going to stick to my guns here - Question first: If they had proof that if everyone wore a mask when in public, we'd kick this in 1 month do you think everyone would do it? I think if we had evidence people still wouldn't wear them - even if it the fastest way to get the economy back to normal. I'm not saying there is proof that masks work - but just wondering where ya'll stand? I'm in the camp that knows its real because I had symptoms, tested positive, got over it - so I know it is real, and I have heard it is deadly to some (mostly old people). My symptoms were basically like the flu but shittier than any flu I've had. So I am sure this virus is real and I'm sure it spreads easier than the flu, cause I got it and wasn't around anyone that appeared sick. Since it spreads easier it is more deadly. I want to go back to work, but we're furloughed. I want to go back to my favorite bar, but can't - even with a mask. Now I hear from my doc that it is possible to catch it again. I don't like being told what to do either, but I think the masks may be something to try. I don't think the COVID gave a fuck that I voted for Trump when I got it - so I don't know how it is political - maybe the mask thing is getting politicized, but hell, I'm willing to try whatever it takes to get my life back to what it was last year
I think if there WAS proof that masks helped no everybody wouldnt wear them because the media would say the exact opposite and would report that masks are not necessary.
Just like they did with the HC + Zinc treatment. They shouldve been pushing that shit like crazy. But they did nothing but lie about it....and people still believe the lying media.
The anti mask hysteria was strongly pushed very early on by Chinese and Russian propagandists on social media. Think about it. China let this virus loose on us for a reason. To hurt us and to hurt the President who is actually tough on them. They do not want us to work together as Americans and beat it. They want us fighting each other instead of them and their bio weapon. So they played on the fact that people are very selfish and entitled. They won.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
In 10 randomized clinical trials no evidence could be found that surgical masks prevent the transmission of influenza like viruses in the general population.
This is why they cannot be labeled as effective and carry a warning like not for medical use. It would be making a fraudulent medical claim and FDA would come down on it.
Why bother with an absence of evidence conclusion? Take it further:
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577
That study was performed with HCWs (health care workers) .. who are exposed to significantly more and concentrated pathogens, ie worst case scenarios.
Conclusion from the study:
This is an outstanding study.
Saving.
Thanks for posting it.
Thanks for the links pedes! I'm not going to run to all my leftist friends right away though; I'm going to try to find additional studies, both supporting and unsupporting, so I can really digest the information and understand the big picture first.
Next time I debate a headline reader I'm going to say "Don't ask me to Google it. Tell me in your own words. You must be able to if you believe it."
Tjey certainly wouldn't want to spread it anymore than necessary...rrriiiggghhhttt? These people ARE the fucking enemy.
And that's with masks that are properly worn/changed/disposed of. The way most people use them "evidence suggests" this is actually helping to spread the virus.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article
Control group means no mask I presume.
Meaning those without masks are actually more prudent.
Paper or cloth it makes no difference. If the mask doesn't seal around your face it doesn't do anything. It's a placebo basically.
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Filthy face diapers are just another platform that serve as concentrated disease vectors that are no different than "reusable" shopping bags.
For years, sensible people pointed out that eliminating plastic bags and enabling shoppers to bring in outside bags of questionable cleanliness was a classic case of liberal 'illogic'. (That is, promoting intentions/appearances over facts.)
Consider that most 'normal' (ie non homeless) people at least attempt to wear somewhat clean clothing. And, once dressed, unless they are extremely ill fitting and/or uncomfortable, people aren't typically playing with, adjusting, fidgeting their clothes.
The exact opposite is true with face diapers. For one, who washes them at all? Second, who isn't constantly touching, adjusting (or even putting on/taking off outside of the store) the fucking things?
So, you have your fingers all over this disease delivery system that then sits right over your mouth/nose delivering 100s of doses of concentrated virus per 'mask episode'. You're touching goods, looking, maybe taking them, sometimes returning. And your fellow shoppers? Doing the exact same thing!
And, for the final touch, instead of washing your lungs out with fresh, non CO2 recycled air, you get a twofer: you both reduce the opportunity for fresh air, while ensuring you breath in whatever is present on that dirty face rag.
It's crazy, and like the ban on re-usable bags that went right down the memory hole, this whole mask wearing business is going to reverse on itself, with governments and stores being sued for the ensuing increase in non CV related respiratory health issues.
Idiots.
agree about the masks, disagree about the bags. i'm not concerned about getting sick from a bag more than anything else i touch in public. which is not very concerned at all. i just wash my hands when i get home or before eating
Huge props b9k9 for laying out what I've been saying and what others have been saying for weeks, about this horrific plot to kill and sicken as many of us as they can without having to go to jail for it.
Let's hope sooner rather than later.
Excellent find!! Just archived this article in case it disappears...
http://archive.is/EIFq7
Son of a bitch.
Even fucking handwashing has no substantial effect on flu virus transmission. What???
Caveat: Chinese researchers. Beware! Could this be disinformation to get us to stop washing our hands?
It's not a find. It has been up since April. It is the most recent article about the topic of high quality, however. Interesting that it is by Hong Kong researchers.
Hahahaha that was good
Maybe it should have been TL;DW as in too long, didn't write.
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Are you at all sick though?
There is a good study at the NIH and it proves Masks do work....SURGICAL MASKS....worn properly....and regularly replaced.
The same study shows cloth masks increase transmission even beyond not wearing a mask.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/
We're not Vietnamese hospital workers.
If anything hospital workers are more adept to proper mask usage than the public
Interesting
I read another study from Sweden IIRC that retrospectively examined the studies on the topic and concluded there is no scientific evidence to suggest surgical masks do anything to prevent infection during surgery.
If you have it can you link it? I'm saving all these in my China Lung AIDS folder. Thx
Not true. You can find a study to support any crazy conspiracy.
Right. There are very few things in this world that exist beyond theory. And so, those are the words they use to be non-commital.
Now before you people get your e-peen all hard that I'm a masker-upper, and downvote because you do not agree. I'm not. I'm just pointing out facts. If you can prove I'm wrong, go ahead and downvote, but don't downvote because FEELINGS.
Exactly. Want to wear a mask? Fine. But don't harass and punish people for not wearing one. Stop putting up with this obvious discrimination, hysteria, and fear mongering.
If we really want mask mandates to disappear seemingly overnight, we just need all of us to start wearing one printed with
"ERIC CIARAMELLA"
"Trump 2020" would probably work well too. Maybe even a few "Bill Clinton is a rapist" ones.
Honestly considering that asymptomatic cases are unlikely to transmit, I think the masks are utterly pointless.
If you have symptoms or tested positive stay your ass home. If you’re sick you shouldn't be around other people mask or not.
This.
It's crazy how sheep people are, the same people shaming everyone for not wearing masks are the same people if you told 9 months ago that the economy would be shut down from a common cold like virus and everyone would be required to wear masks while it's over 100 degrees outside they would call you a "conspiracy theorist".
It’s actually not fine if they “want” to wear a mask though. They’re perpetuating a myth and scaring people.
The more masks you see, the worse off we’ll be.
I just heard a report saying that covid testing sites are failing to report negative cases and they can test one person across many days and count each test as one 'case'. People are being multiple-counted.
It's worse than that. In Florida we have had 300+ testing sites reporting 100 percent of their tests as positive. No problem, mask up, lockdown forever!
Sounds like they are trying to shut down the RNC which is in Jacksonville. That is why they are trying to get the numbers as high as possible.
Jax don't GAF
Wouldn't surprise me at all. I think personally the convention should take place over 3 locations and three days. Let trump give a speech on day 2 and 3, let Pence headline day 1.
I don't know the play on this, but almost all of my intuition is pointing to if trump loses in November, we will never hear of this virus again within a week.
Not reporting negative results is not quite the same thing as reporting 100% positive results. If you look at the relevant columns in the FL table it doesn't have 0 in the negative column, it has no number at all. Which looks more to me like non-reporting their negative cases than reporting they had zero negative cases. So I think that might explain the FL thing.
Or not. It's all a fucking mess at this point.
People calling in to Rush substantiating that multiple people being reported as covid positive when THEY HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN TESTED!
My mom's eye doctor had that happen to her, she was telling my mom that they were waiting to be tested but it took too long so they left, and a couple of days later they got a letter in the mail saying they were positive. It's unbelievable how the American people are just letting their government stop all over their liberties for a "virus" that obviously has inflated numbers.
Yeah, I'm seeing that all over. People who get in line to get tested and then leave the line because it's too long - then get an email later with positive results. How does that work? Did they somehow provide their email address before leaving the line?
BS big time. Need video. Wish it would happen to me. I'd have a really good time with that.
Guest caller on local talk radio in Ohio told his story a few weeks ago, said he tested positive. Had to go through NINE retests to finally get a negative. Each time he tested positive, the State counted it as a new case!
Source?
https://www.fox13news.com/news/doh-some-florida-labs-only-reported-positive-covid-19-results-not-negatives
They are currently trying to downplay saying, "It's only .1% of cases." It doesn't matter if it's .1% or 15% or .0001%. It still makes the numbers all fucked up.
Look for the Fox 35 Orlando story. It was covered both last nights on Laura’s show.
Yes. It was on Laura Ingraham. I thought it was on her show, but I watched a few shows and listened to podcasts, that I was unsure who said it.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/15/florida-labs-incorrectly-reported-a-100-positivity-rate-for-coronavirus-tests/
Sad thing is Google searching almost all the mainstream headlines are calling this a conspiracy theory. They can't cover up the truth
I’m sure someone will destroy Fox35 for this
I work for one of those hospitals. They were told to only report positive cases at the beginning of the pandemic by CDC. This is via a lab tech.
Edit: Via lab tech, the orders were from CDC, not* FDOH. WOOOAAAAHHHH!!!!!
Yes, this is what I thought. They're not saying they had zero negative results, they're just not reporting the negative results, only the positives. And it turns out that was by CDC directive. SMH
What am I supposed to do if I don’t want to wear a mask but where I live I won’t be able to walk into any business without one? I don’t want to lie and say I have some medical condition. What are my options? Not participate in our economy? Online only??
Yeah that’s the real problem. We can at least attempt to vote out governments who force masks. When every grocery store in your area forces masks, you can’t cast a vote and you no longer have the ability to ‘vote with your wallet’. You comply or give your money to Amazon. We’re running out of lawful options
Welcome to the mark of the beast. First masks, then vaccine, then microchip, then gulags.
They won’t have to exterminate free thinkers, just starve them out of society.
I DO have a medical condition and have still been denied entry. I know people say "just walk in", heck I was one of them at one point, but if they're asking you to leave, that's more pushback than I'm willing to give.
Online orders seem to be the way to go for the most part. Works for everything from food to fun items.
I will say I saw something kinda disturbing a week ago. A guy came out of a store, practically ran to his car, and yanked his mask off gasping. UGH, there is no punishment for Wuhan Gruesome that would satisfy me!
It’s not China that’s forcing us into muzzles. It’s the Left. That’s who needs punished.
Same situation -- i mostly use curbside pickup/delivery or go without a mask and just ignore everyone. I keep a medical one in my pocket and hold it up to my face or hang it off on ear if i really need to go inside.
I was wearing my full face motorcycle helmet, but that got a little uncomfortable -- maybe the dirt bike one will be better
If you go to the mall or any store or business that sells a drink, buy a small one and walk around with the straw on your lip and act like your drinking. Did this in the mall yesterday worked like a charm!
the populace doesn't even wear them properly. And those people are "okayed" as WEARING a mask, just because something is hanging off their ears, but because I do NOT have something hanging off my ears, I'm the baddie.
I think there’s a reason they push the cloth and “anything goes” masks. Laura did a segment last night on masks on her show that showed evidence you were MORE likely to get sick with a cloth mask, than no mask at all. The cloth absorbs the droplets and holds it on your face like a Petri dish. Like getting water boarded with the virus all day
I also think the purpose of the mask mandates is to allow AntiFA and the criminal behavior to operate. You can’t tell me everyone wearing a mask hasn’t assisted the massive rise in crime.
Masks are also being used to sow more division in the country. The media is portraying it as "good, virtuous people who wear masks" versus "selfish, dangerous people who refuse to wear masks."
The purpose of it also to keep people in "fear".....you see everyone wearing masks and you are reminded of "CoRoNA viRuS" and a "PanDemIc" happening. Instead of people gradually forgetting about it and ignoring the news.
Yes, I ask that question to people to help break the spell: "if you had no access to media and no one was wearing masks, would you even know this thing existed?"
You can't go back to normal until new government is installed. It's how a communist overthrow happens. Normal will come as the new normal after they rig the election and install new government
Yes. FEAR throughout the summer when people are usually vacationing and having fun is key. They want to demoralize and destabilize
Common sense would tell you that putting a porous barrier over your mouth and nose is going to cause the mask to become a warm moist environment that will encourage the growth of not only viruses but also bacteria.
Also, hypothetically, what happens when you cough or sneeze? The virus-laden moisture in the pores of your mask is going to be forced out or “trampolined” into the air.
When they started this mask nonsense back in May (?) my first thought was that we’d be seeing Antifa violence in short order. Because in many states, especially southern states, the Antifa violence was shut down back in 2017 using state laws prohibiting masks at public gatherings. Remnants from KKK times.
Well said Sir. I hereby joke a toint in your honor.