California closes all "Places of Worship" indefinitely, or until they deem it safe to reopen them. This is a direct attack on our freedoms. Commiefornia doing what commiefornia does.
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Noticed the use of "I" a lot of times. They really believe they can act as a king or dictator.
Well ... nobody is stopping them, are they?
This is the left's tactics: push and push and push their big gummint bullshit until met with resistance from free people; then bitch and moan about how unfair the resistance is; after the dust settles, enjoy how far you've moved the Overton window .. rinse, repeat.
YES!! Enough with the Newspeak!
Thank you for taking a stand!
Good for you for standing your ground. I would suggest, after checking on your local laws, to carry around a digital voice recorder and record every meeting. Some states don’t allow recording unless the other party is notified, so check first. Recording how you’re treated will do wonders for the impending lawsuit.
Also an option to make it clear that this being is getting record for those who couldn't attend and to serve as an official record, and it to the minutes.
I do this now and it puts people in check, sometimes i reminded then they are being recorded
TERRIFIC JOB!!! UPVOTED.
The pronoun thing is easy to get around.
Simply don't use any. They're 100% optional at all times.
Awesome!
It's surprising, the amount of speech that is in general unnecessary. I relearn this every time I get laryngitis.
What grade was this student in?
John Roberts will stop them!
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Remember when Barr said he was going to do something? Hahahahahahaha.
Which time?
Yes.
Stern letter in Bold Print
Citizens have to start the process.
We. The. People remember?
Guarantee they will declare marijuana shops essential
That's what they did in Canada; pot & booze. Shut everything else down.
That's the only medicine a lot of people can tolerate for chronic pain, Crohn's disease, IBS, insomnia, the list goes on.
The one I don't get is LIQUOR STORES.
You can't go to worship service, but you can go buy a case of whiskey and kill yourself? LOL
California has declared recreational weed shops essential. Not just medicinal.
Hey, gotta do something to stay mellow while locked up like a prisoner for breathing.
The rationale I’ve heard for the liquor stores staying open is that if alcoholics can’t get access to alcohol, the could start withdrawing and end up in hospital with DTs, taking up a bed needed for WuFlu patients.
I'll allow it. Makes sense.
You're the first I've seen with an answer
Never heard of Weed detox causing hospitalization... so why are they essential?
And government offices.
Already did. CA sux
Except blm
Surprised that no one mentioned that RBG is in the hospital again
She was discharged today. She got her formaldehyde changed and some WD-40 to her noodle neck to keep it from squeaking. Good as new!
Was this the second time in the not-too-distant past she was in the hospital for an infection, or has she been in there for over a month and just got out finally?
Isn't there a Department of...what is it called, "Justice"? Someone should call them...
Maybe. Sounds like a civil liberties issue, too. I’ll bet the American Civil Liberties Union will be all over it.
I've been seeing this power dynamic all over the place, especially over the last decade plus. It's the go to dynamic in organizations from city governments to international sporting organizations where they don't have a legal mandate or explicit authority to just order some thing be done. They're learning this shit somewhere, in business schools or poly sci classes or some books I'm not aware of.
And it's just like you describe. They push, push, push, until they meet resistance. And then the play book is, they say shit like "we recognize legitimate concern about this issue in our community." They hold meetings of "stakeholders" and pretend they care about the issue. Nothing is accomplished. They wait until interest in the topic dies down, and they try to push again, or seek oblique ways of achieving the same result.
It's some really insidious shit. And to top it all off, these same people often extol the virtues of "democracy".
They’re learning that stuff in social work schools. That’s literally what a lot of the curriculum is. Public policy advocacy, community “organizing” and all the buzzwords you just said. They then join a lot of the nonprofits that are out there pushing this crap and lobbying the hell out of lawmakers nonstop. And when they get there they teach others. I don’t understand how a profession that is supposed to be about psychology and therapy turned into promoting communism, but if you look into it you will find that it is behind a lot of this mess.
Sounds like government 101.
Sounds like that internet regulation stuff that was pushed by all the tech companies.
They’re literally counting on violence. It’s right out of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.
And he just rewrote Marxist revolutionary tactics for the modern era; they openly planned in early 20th century Europe (Russia 1917, Germany 1919, Spain 1934, etc.) to try and fake being the underdog for public support. Spain is the closest parallel to what we're experiencing in America right now. We're CEDA: playing for years by the rules (that the Marxists hold in open contempt) until it'll be too late and then the only solution will be a cataclysm of violence.
This time after they poke the bear enough we'll know better than to provide then mercy
I hope so. Many don't have the testicular fortitude we have.
I'll not let them forget
Rogue DA. That confiscation will be found to be unconstitutional, and St Louis couple will be able to sue for breach of their rights
Trump is on it, apparently, but the wheels of justice move slowly. The other side needs to move to the next step so Trump has something to respond to, is my guess - by all rights they will be returned after they are exonerated, but if they aren't exonerated then Trump will step in. But feel free to remember I said this and call me out on it down the road if I turn out to be wrong.
The wheels of justice move slowly, but the wheels of injustice seem mighty quick these days.
It's like your bank account. Money goes out VROOOOOM. Money comes in... please wait 24 hours.
Unless we Burn, Loot, Murder.
Never fear, Josh Hawley's to the rescue (and I hope he gets results):
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/mo-senator-hawley-asks-doj-open-civil-rights-investigation-st-louis-circuit-attorneys-office-targeting-mccloskeys/
Josh Hawley, Senator from MO, is having the DOJ opening a case against the DA, Kim Gardner's office. It's government; shit takes forever.
The raid for confiscation (the kind that supposedly will never happen) came real fast though.
Agreed 100% It's all about the corrupt DA.
Not the DOJ, but the first step. https://thedonald.win/p/GIlRYzrj/us-senator-josh-hawleythis-morni/c/
Not necessary. Will go to court first. If the St Louis couple doesn’t win (bad judge) then they will appeal. Will go all the way to Suprene Court if necessary
Just in time for them to punt it. The Bolsheviks have occupied every single level of this government.
Rogue DA. Rogue police department too? Who enforced those illegal orders?
Doesn’t matter. The St Louis couple will win in court
This isnt a win. You think a poor citizen barely making ends meet can afford to sue?
Actually it does matter. It's mindless actions like this that is causing police to also lose support of decent citizens. They need to stop just following orders and start thinking for themselves. Police agencies are NOT the military.
Lost their guns, may yet lose their houses but may win in court because they're rich lawyers who did nothing wrong. So much winning, I can't stand it.
I heard that a local gun shop provided them a replacement AR-15.
Yup, and that why we have a constitution. If the St Louis couple decides to fight in court, they will win
I get it. It shouldn’t have to go to court.But when they do, the DA is going to lose bigly, probably end this career, and the ST Louis couple is going to end up with a multi million dollar settlement
This one, is a literal Karen and bought and paid for by George Soros.
She is a liberal meme brought to life.
Then the cops who are trying to take your weapons are also tyrants.
Like it or not, the woman was committing the crime of brandishing : Her husband was carrying correctly, as was that entire neighborhood BurnLootMurder marched through ( in Indiana?) ; all of them had their weapons pointed straight up OR pointing to the ground . She was caught on camera pointing her weapon at the crowd, and even in a state with open carry/constitutional carry, that IS brandishing.
Brandishing at people who had damaged private property in order to trespass on private property
Its funny because the other option was to pull out the gun and start blasting.
Its sometimes like you need the bad party to understand the consequences of their actions before you dole out the punishment.
What would happen if they were out playing meek and slightly antagonizing until they started getting pushed around, then just started blasting; is that what they would have preferred happen? (I know the answer is yes because they are just waiting for something to pop-off).
"You will have to prove the elements of self-defense to be exonerated of brandishing a weapon or firearm in violation of PC 417, which includes:
You reasonably believed you or another person were in imminent danger of physical harm And you fought the person who threatened you with only enough force to subdue that person or otherwise defend yourself."
They were trespassing and threatening them, she pointed her gun and said GTFO, they GTFO, and she didn't shoot anyone. I'm not a lawyer, but I assume she's got a hell a case.
Unfortunately, probably not. Look, I'm not happy about her situation, but like it or not, if you try to claim you pulled a gun on someone and pointed it at them because you were in fear for your life/fear of imminent danger, and then DON'T pull the trigger (or worse yet, give a warning shot, or ';shoot to wound') : Well, in that case your inaction disproves your claim .I don't like it, but that's what will be said.
This is why lawyers argue. Because one can be wrong.
If I'm legitimately in fear for my life, and therefore pull my gun, but then the other guy surrenders or stops threatening me so I don't shoot him, THAT'S HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK. Nobody got hurt, and my life being in danger passed.
Tell me what state REQUIRES YOU TO SHOOT SOMEONE if you pull a gun even if the sight of the gun makes the criminal stop threatening you.
You're wrong.
How the fuck do you brandish weapons against trespassers that are calling for your death?
Online experts like to howl about people not operating in accordance with how they imagine that they would have in the circumstances.
Its easy to forget that adrenaline is a hell of a drug when its your house and home that are being assaulted by a mob.
So wrong. Funny Libs coming in trying to sound smart. By your logic, anytime you pull your weapon out but don't shoot because maybe it immediately de-escalated the situation.. You will be arrested.
Holding a firearm improperly is NOT illegal. Otherwise you would have to go through extensive training to "participate" in the 2nd amendment. And that is not how it works.
I find the conspicuous consumption a bit embarrassing tbh. Maybe instead of Sunday Gunday where grown men flaunt their possessions, the focus should be Marksmanship Sunday where people show their targets, group sizes and the range - and to the ones who are new to it, track their progress through time or get tips on how to improve.
But that's just me.
Sounds like something you could start doing yourself inside Sunday gunday than taking out Sunday gunday as a whole
Great point. Be the change you want to see. Make the content YOU like because other people out there will share your taste.
I'm not suggesting taking it out - it's a free(ish) country and people can do whatever they want.
To me it's like seeing a soyface grinning while holding some product like a video game instead of demonstrating their skill at playing it. What's the point? Are you signaling that you understand your solemn duty or are you merely signaling your ability to be a good consumer? Product placement or shot placement?
It's just food for thought and I think it was fair for u/your_MOM to bring it up.
If they or you want to do those things you're welcome to. If you think you can slyly toss insults in there to the people partaking in gunday while trying to remove or 'appropriate' it you can go sit on one
You have failed to articulate any rationale as to why I should respect that kind of crass consumerism. Respect is earned. You don't earn my respect by bringing an anti-materiel rifle to a protest to advertise your mercantile aspirations. You don't earn my respect by seeing armed communists creating roadblocks, effectively menacing people into compliance, and then criticizing their firearm accessories like a teenager girl criticizes another girl's shoes.
I can articulate why I don't like it. It signals to me that far too many do not take what's happening seriously, that their guns are some kind of toy or hobby to them and they'll stamp their feet like children when they're taken away, but in the end they will be taken away.
You can feel insulted by that characterization if you like, but the fact that there is very little real pushback against this behavior while people are being sent to prison for defending themselves tells me, at least, that many people presumably on our side don't preserve the "spirit of resistance" but at best view their firearms as some kind of totemic symbol to ward off evil rather than a tool of resistance - and at worst see it as an opportunity to status signal.
Either way I can't help but find it embarrassing. Feeling insulted doesn't make you right or give you any special claim to strawman me.
EDIT I'm sure the people who participate in this are fine people, but I'd just like them to consider what I and others have said, that's all.
Considered and promptly discarded
"You know, you can't just go around and shoot people in the kneecaps with a double-barrelled shotgun 'cause you pissed at 'em."
That was one of the things I noticed. There sure is a whole lot of one person deciding everything.
Should be interesting to see them try and keep the Mosques closed.
Oh that's right, Christians only.
Mosques are exempt, bigot.
I can respect a religious person who stands their ground about their beliefs. Even if we were in a battle to the death. Breaking frame is one of the grossest things anybody can do. It's weak.
And Synagogues. Last I heard they have private armed security too. What do churches get?
Burnt to the ground and statues destroyed free of charge.
Time to BURN YOUR MASK. Light 'em up, kiddos! ... unless of course your immune-compromised or elderly in which case get yourself a better fucking mask for God's sake.
the fools are willing to stay closed.....
The Karens run the Christian churches.
They teach "hot tub" Christianity where the focus is on being nice, feeling good about yourself, and tolerance for sin. We can't judge people, so that must mean we can't judge their actions either. It's a motivational seminar that happens every Sunday.
I wish the nearest church to me with a pastor who boldly preaches the Word wasn't an hour away.
Funny because the Karens are the very definition of judgemental.
They teach people not to judge because they don't want people judging them.
Underrated comment.
‘Hot tub Christianity’ ...wow, so true.
I grew up in church and went to several, and, although they preached the Word, I always felt they emphasized ‘niceness’ too much. Especially for men. Churches have played a large part in emasculating men in our society. To the point where they shirk any confrontation just to appease. Too much ‘be ye gentle’ and not enough ‘fight the good fight’.
I found a good church, first sermon I attended our pastor called out the sin of homosexuality. He wasn't afraid to "offend" anyone, I knew I found a new home. This don't judge thing has been taken way off the cliff. We can and should call out wickedness. It's about a 30 minute drive but it's worth it.
It's something it was never meant to be. "Judge not" isn't the entire saying. It finishes with "...lest ye be judged."
It's an exhortation against hypocrisy, not against judgment of any kind.
In Christian terms, it doesn't mean to be accepting of anything and everything. It means not to view anyone as irredeemable because we are all sinners. It's not your job to pass final judgment on someone, that's God's job.
Your job is to do your best to help that person stop sinning, not to accept their sins.
I'm lucky enough to have a couple of priests who are still willing to call out sin, whether or not the current Pope wants them to, and I thank them after every Mass for it. Glad to hear you have found a strong pastor.
Makes sense. One of the reasons I quit Instagram was all the white christian women posting black squares and telling me, a feather, to educate myself about racism. Hillsong women are especially odious in that regard.
Checkout Jack Hibbs, pastor of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills.
Don't forget sponsoring people who hate the USA to travel here en masse.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/11/29/unholy-alliance-christian-charities-profit-1-billion-fed-program-resettle-refugees-40-percent-muslim/
Not all of them. Lookup posts or messages from Jack Hibbs with Calvary Chapel Chino Hills. He's a straight savage and does everything through a biblical lens. He did a full sermon on the history of America and why its such a God blessed nation on July 5th.
Wish it was true, in Vancouver the archibishop (catholic church) closed all churches since March.
When I wrote a letter to him, he made clear his responsibility was to the government not with parishioners. Sign of the times.
Then these bishops cry as they hemorrhage parishioners, who either abandon the faith entirely or go join a Latin Mass parish where the priests aren’t insufferable milquetoasts.
This. I found an FSSP latin mass. They are open and ready to welcome all catholics who embrace faith and tradition. God comes first, not government.
I will fight to protect your right to worship. This is unacceptable.
Another important story to remember.
Daniel 3
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+3&version=NKJV
Take shelter in Him.
I have been so disappointed by the church leadership during this time. Staying closed as they have, even though places of worship have been listed as an essential service.
Frankly, I don't call myself a Christian anymore. I have been so disgusted at the lack from the church and the "lay down and take it" attitude is sickening. Part of Christianity is fellowship.
A church I used to go to, I watched their live stream.
If I didn't know any better I thought the stream would have been that of a democrat political seminar.
They were fully endorsing lockdowns, saying that the government has every right to shut down churches, its not stripping our rights, we need to trust and obey our leaders, the 1st amendment is not unlimited, we need to accept it and not complain, and if you want to go to church in person you want to kill grandma. Actual words. Not paraphrasing.
And this isn't some liberal universal unitarian Church in a blue city, its a church in the affluent, white, conservative part of Louisville, KY.
They also had a sermon about black lives matter and it was what you would expect. Last time I ever watched the stream.
When church leaders spew the words of the Ggvernment instead of the words of God, the faithful should turn their backs on those leaders as they are not leading by word of God anymore.
Only church I've found with a TRULY anointed pastor with the courage we need in these times is Jack Hibbs. Pastor of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills. I watch their live streams every week. Funny enough, they are located in California.
And/or the political elite are ignoring the ones that want to open
Several businesses in San Diego have openly (on the local news) said they will defy the order and remain open. I have a feeling many more will quietly do the same. Much of SD county is very conservative though... LA/SF/Sacramento regions will probably obey.
I truly hope so, it's time we push these fucktard governors to the side
Trilateral commission strikes again!
That goes against the first admendment. I wish I was in California so that I could sue the fuck out of them.
except life isn't going on as usual anymore, our liberties are being attacked openly these days, much more aggressively than in decades past.
This is the case where it's time for President Trump to step up and overrule Newsom.
He said he would do this if he had to, in particular because of church closings.
Making matters worse, there's NO SCIENCE backing this bullshit up. None. At all.
There are at minimum 50 million Americans who think exactly this way. If push comes to shove, it would all be over in 24 hours.
That's why I don't don't really get too worried with all the hand wringing. Either way this situation is going to be resolved; the easy way ... or the hard way.
Do you really think there is any remote possibility that patriots would somehow fail to prevail in a direct conflict with the government?
I swear the people outside of my apartment can feel something whenever I read comments like yours. All sorts of synchronicity things happen such as slamming doors, revving engines, and birds flying past my window.
The tension is palpable.
Please. Continue on doubting. This is a free country, you do whatever the fuck you want to do.
It is this crazy BECAUSE the swamp was not drained. No Dem fears recourse from this. This is grounds for civil war.
If the Republicans won't protect our rights, then the people will need to do it themselves.
The government is not allowed to get in the way of your right to worship, or to peaceably assemble!
One thing you mentioned there that holds people hostage is in regards to small business operating outside of their state's mandates. A business owner who refuses to comply will lose their license.
Choosing to operate your business can't be equated with lawfully/unlawfully protesting, looting or rioting because doing any of those things won't coat you your livelihood. So long as operating licenses are required, local and state governments have owners by the balls on this.
If my employer fires me, it will not be fun for them.
I've been procrastinating, but I need to get my own business up and running sooner than later so I can keep my home and stick to my morals on the mask issue.
I see it everyday. Unfortunately, most of the "conservatives" are social liberals who think that people should be able to do whatever they want and have been taught that even suggesting people follow Christian values is on par with the Crusades. They will complain about how there is no prayer in school and how their pastor doesn't even quote from the Bible, but they keep sending there kids to school and don't go to a different church because muh 1980s libertarian neo-liberal values. They would rather be killed by invaders than go against what the government is saying.
Nobody here is willing to protest.
Lol
No it's not. SCOTUS decided it had that power and granted it to itself in Marbury v. Madison. Jefferson himself spoke about how that's not the intent of the judicial branch and it's a dangerous concept. That courts grabbed power way before we were born and they keep grabbing it from the people because we let them.
I don't see where Article III gives the judicial branch supremacy over the executive or the legislative. Can you tell me where it says they can order the executive around?
Founders were great, but they never expected people to be kept artificially alive, or refuse to step down because they value their own agenda over the good of the country.
After the Boog, we need to draft a new constitution, based HEAVILY on the existing one of course, but without all the exploitable areas. Term limits written in, ability to recall judges by the people, stuff like that.
Forgive me for wanting to reset the country back to the way it should be. Prosperous and innovative. The liberals have stole 60 years of ACTUAL progression. So yes I am "One of those" you complacent commie cuck.
Oh did SCOTUS create us? What fucking part of inalienable is so hard to understand?
Maybe one of these super churches should take up their second amendment and stand out front of their church and protect their first. Think CA is going to go full Waco in the middle of Orange County? Every red blooded American obeying this order is a cuck.
If this isn’t the red line, where the fuck is it? Do we wait until they start putting Christians on buses (train system is too shitty in CA), or is that acceptable too?
Takes more than a SCOTUS ruling to rescind a constitutional amendment.
I guess, I forgot... ?
People like to block out the uncomfortable truths in life so they can keep living the comfortable lie.
Can't ban protests
They will ban ours but let the commies run wild.
Watch them do it lol
Not a place of worship, but rather a staging ground for insurrection and radical transformation of non-islamist societies.
Newson: “which means it’s ok of course”
We need boots on the ground looking at all alternative places of worship. The lawsuits must flow.
It's not a place of worship because it's not a religion. It's a cult.
Islam is a death cult and the allah of the koran is the same entity as the satan from the bible.
Unconstitutional!
Would take the DoJ to file suit for violation of civil rights ... don't hold your breath.
This should be the final wake-up call for any pedes who are not yet armed. War is literally at your front door whether you want it to be or not. BLM is attacking pregnant women and killing children, and your government is shutting down your churches indefinitely. What do you think they will do if trump gets reelected, or when get caught with 100 million fake mail-in ballots?
You need to arm yourself and your family. Learn what you can and definitely can't do. Seriously, definitely don't "drill a third hole" on your AR-15, and don't do something dumb like try and 3d print or mill your own drop-in auto sear, and don't try to find out how to make one with a coat hanger. Just load up on totally legal guns and ammo, and after that's done watch some free training videos and go to a range or your buddy's ranch to practice and sight in your weapons.
Wine Tasting 6pm, my place.
Don’t forget the Wayfair delivered dessert
angry upvote
I'll bring the pizza
with walnut sauce plz!
It wasn't a few weeks ago. Bunch of cali friends of mine (even the pro shutdown types) were pissed off that Gavins winery was booked solid while everyone else was on lockdown.
I tried to call and find out but the number was turned off. Least we've screwed with them enough that they are afraid to answer their phone.
Or Nancy Pelosi's winery and her fully stocked freezer.
I will bring the bread.
Pizza anyone?
No cheeeeeese?
I got the map related hankerchiefs!
I've got the perfect Merlot to go with that chocolate. wink, wink.
Won't we need something to cut the bread? Maybe something like a small sword. Would prefer not metal though, I'll try to bring a wooden one. It's not very sharp though.
The churches in CA need to sue. This is a flagrant violation of the First Amendment.
My church is all like tHeY’Re NoT GoInG aFTer cHurCheS dIreCTlY, so we'll comply with the bullshit. Fuck this, the church has been far too complacent, we need to make a stand somewhere. Why not this while we’re still able to?
Are we talking Weimar Republic Germany? They managed to rationalize themselves into full blown national socialism in response to a civil war by Jewish Germans after outside agitators from the Soviet Union tried to start up communism.
Seems an apt analogy to what' happening here.
This entire ordeal has greatly diminished my respect for a large number of religious leaders. Apparently even the people preaching don't believe that what they're preaching is terribly important?
They don't just need to sue. They need to ignore these edicts regardless of the outcome.
Maybe the Mormons can put some of their Billions to good use for once.
Wake up, Bill Barr.
strong words incoming im sure
I expect a sternly worded letter in response.
He's busy hunting down the Boogaloo Boys, giving fiery speeches, and punting the 2016 coup investigation until after the election .. no time to defend Americans' civil rights.
I’ve always known he was bullshit, but talking about the Boog Boys while letting BLM burn America was a whole ‘bother level of cuckoldry.
3 weeks of destruction of American cities, seen live on TV and the internet, with BLM and antifa front and center ... and the only perps that Billy could find were 3 idiots from a supposedly "white supremacist" group that nobody ever heard of and that had been in existence for one month.
That bullshit, alone, should warrant Barr's dismissal.
Barr is a useless/corrupt fucking POS, forced on America by the never-Trump senate repugs.
He’s so committed to the deep state he came out of retirement to fuck us one last time.
Not just committed to his corrupt friends and corrupt bureaucracy.
Imagine what his Luxembourg bank account looks like ....
I imagine they also have pictures of him making it with barnyard animals.
You should see the NGO that put together the data on the "b00g b0y$".
That incident manufactured a number of black pills.
Crafting a sternly worded letter, to be sure.
But, first, have to play some bag pipes. And take a nap.
Oh, oh, yeah, he's giving a speech right about the potential for a communist country (CHY-NaH) to wrest control of our tech sector and have an undue influence in our country. But, yeah, just a talk.
No arrests. No indictments. And, as much as I want to believe it there are no indictments coming.
You would think that Sessions getting the boot in the primaries would send a bit of a wake-up call to the RINOs!
Yeah right, I went to church last night, will go again on Sunday. The local PD already said they don't care.
exactly
folks may not know this if they dont live in california but not every single californian is some homeless dude shitting on the sidewalk in san francisco. there's a lot of based people here.
if you actually go to church, odds are good the church is in an area where the cops aren't going to go in and bust up a congregation because of governor needledick. if the cops in the area are willing to do that, odds are good there isn't a church in that jurisdiction anyway.
When I was a kid in my country, I used to think about sunshine, oranges and raisins when I thought about California. As a kid, the US was the statue of Liberty (NY), Texas with cowboys and California for the sunshine. Now that I live here, California is to me is some homeless dude shitting on the sidewalk. Sorry, but that's the first thing I think about.
I do not live near LA but I went there recently for business reasons and the first thing I saw when I got out of my truck was a homeless person shitting on the sidewalk.
I don't know how people live near that daily.
If you stay in the suburbs, you generally won’t see people shitting on the sidewalk.
I know, I live in a cali suburb. Can confirm that the only thing shitting on sidewalks here are dogs
When I was a kid in Orange County in the 1980s, that's precisely what it was.
Our pastor is friends with some pastors deep in LA, I know one of them and follow him on social media, but even with him, I don't think the LAPD is going to go shut down a primarily Mexican church. Mayor Garcetti doesn't actually have convictions on this (or probably anything else), so there is no way he would risk the optics that would create. Granted some white/asian church meeting in Hollywood or West LA might get made an example of, but even then I don't know. We shall see, as surely some won't comply.
Yeah the LAPD is hard to get a read on in this situation because the recent riots exposed how a lot of folks that start a career in law enforcement take a job with a big city like LA, Seattle, Chicago, Minneapolis, etc because they're easy to get into with few people wanting to stay long term and a huge need for a large police force. As a result many officers just do a 5 years keeping their nose clean and then transfer to a department where they actually want to work and be a cop.
So you could have demotivated cops who don't want to bother doing something so stupid, or you could have demotivated cops who don't want to risk getting fired and figure busting up a church could be easy.
The best solution I think is to stay well away from urban hellscapes. Either that or ask roof koreans to provide church security.
Most of SD county, mainly the norther part, are very based. Huntington Beach area people are also very based
yep, same with OC, and a lot of the inland empire. But it all pales in comparison population wise to LA and the Bay Area which gave us Governor Needledick when we could have had thick, juicy Cox
After the Oroville Dam situation failed to redpill people I realized without Night of the Long Vans it's going to take generations of getting fucked before this state turns around. Thankfully, the one good thing Gavin has done is accelerate the process so maybe I can see it within my lifetime. Here's hoping.
I'm in Cali, and people don't just vote for Newsom, they vote for him BIG. He gets elected with a supermajority and probably will be again. He shuts down businesses, livelihoods, bank accounts, families, churches, and people still vote for him. He destroyed the state on every turn and (apparently most) people here just love every second of it.
That's why I said he accelerates the process. Eventually the state descends into chaos, us Cali pedes form biker gangs, and before the year is out we've turned it into a Thunderdome.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, dyin time's here
I just realized I should start going to churches to socialize and get a feel for who's resisting.
c: indoor protests.
Nonsense - since when did his released prisoners (+plus the 18,000 he is releasing in the next several weeks), Antifa/BLM and roving street gangs 'protest' indoors? 😂
Maybe he means that they can't go into buildings and loot anymore? Maybe this will stop them. haha
How is this legal?
None of it is.
I hope judicial watch is suing the shit out of all these states right now.
It's too late to stop it for this pandemic. We need it for the next one. This can NEVER happen again and needs to be stopped now when the threat is minimal
First amendment? What's that?
California. Second Amendment? What's that?
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended
I will never not laugh at this copypasta. It's amazing.
This is the best thing I've read all day. Thank you for the laughs! 🤣
Ephesians 6:10-17 NIV
This. I say this as an atheist. This doesn't mean that I believe in God, Jesus, Satan, Moloch. It just means that taking all information into account this is a fight between Good and Evil and Dark vs Light.
Don't mean to offend you, but I find it incredibly ironic that you use the language of the transcendence (Good vs Evil, Dark vs Light) and still can encapsulate yourself into being an "atheist".
I venture to say this attitude is a direct consequence of the Protestant obsession with the Text. It's unfortunate but it is divine will. The Protestant movement did great things to break the grid lock monopoly of the rotten carcass of the Latin church, but there is a limit to human inventions after all.
If you are a smart and humble person, you should be calling yourself agnostic not atheist. Atheism is nothing but a teenager game to rebel against their NPC Christian parents.
Take it from me as a former "atheist".
No offense taken and I was half-hoping someone like yourself would come asking. How can an atheist make such statements without believing in gods?
I am a bit offended that you would subtly claim that I am not smart and not humble by the way you have worded your response. Please climb down from your tower. We can play games with the meaning agnostic vs atheist all day long. Generally speaking, agnostic means a person who has not formed an opinion as to the presence of gods where an atheist has.
So, how is it that I can see the Good vs Evil and Dark vs Light without believing in gods? Simple really. I believe that there are PEOPLE that believe in those gods and act accordingly. Thus it is good people vs evil people and people of the dark vs people of the light that are battling.
View God as a metaphor and it all makes sense my dude.
Again, excuse my use of language, but I think being straight and direct is better than jumping around the bush. Plus, my background was autistically scientific before I became a Christian, so I'm used to jumping straight in the ring anyway.
So, let's have a small discussion if you are still willing.
One issue the atheists often mention is the lack of evidence. Ask yourself this: what kind of evidence do you want? Apparently, atheists desire "evidence". However, this an incredibly arbitrary desire and yet somehow made to be perceived as these "evidence" must be of a scientific nature. A scientific evidence is anything but arbitrary.
I don't know anything your professional field so I can't make any claim about it, so I will just mention statistics quickly because it is essential when you want to talk about scientific evidence.
Statistical reasoning is central to any and all scientific work. Even scientists themselves have to be incredibly careful with the results of a test, that's why you may have heard some one say something like "95% confidence", which is supposed to be "95% statistically significant". Mind you, in statistics there is nothing as true or false. A 95% statistical confidence does not deny or confirm anything. The number only pertains to the very narrowly worded criteria of the test in use. Thus, a set of data obtained through the scientific method is qualitatively bound to the questions raised at the beginning of the test only, nothing else. Data (usually) do not lie and data are not the same as 'evidence'. Thus, even the phrase "statistical evidence" is an oxymoron. So when atheists like you talk about evidence, you must be clear what kind of evidence you want to talk about.
Next, if you desire scientific evidence, then you must design a test using the scientific method. But how are you going to design a test to verify the existence of God? Science (the actual hard sciences like physics and chemistry -- not the fake "soft sciences" like economics) only deals with the physical reality where things can be measured. How do you measure God? Even theoretical physics itself is a very narrow field where they try to predict within very specific subsets of physical problems. There is a reason it is called theoretical, because there is absolutely no way to verify any claim at all, and some consistently calculated results from some assumed math functions are not the same as measured data. For example, if you dig a little bit only into the physics circles, you will even hear some arguments regarding the validity of string theory as a physics discipline.
If even physics, which is at the absolute frontier of chartering the human knowledge about the fabric of reality, has to be humble about the true nature of reality, don't think it is quite hasty on your part to proclaim 'God does not exist'?
So when you have no way to verify whether or a claim is true or false, your argument is as good as a Christian's faith.
Edit: again, not trying to offend your intelligence. I know the way I talk may appear too blunt so you have to excuse me. However, science (scientific data to be exact) is cold and hard, and isn't that why we all love to rely on it?
Churches and schools are the typical voting places. If they are closed?
Well gee what a shame. Looks like we need vote by mail. How convenient.
That... that does not look legal at all.... Unless the Gov declares Martial law first....
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It's time for Californians to dig deep and raise the gadsden flag
They'd better do it soon. It's not going to be pretty if God decides to do something about it.
Lol.
Ok.
California will sooner secede from the USA and begin their own socialist commune before anyone in that state has the stones to change things for the better. It's a lost cause, and has been for some time now.
CA replaced Snek with A hot steaming pile of feces and drug needles.
"Fuck around and find out" just mean hepatitis and aids around here.
Figured I'd put the text here because CA clearly haven't seen it.
Oh, perhaps you didn't hear. Freedom is now dumb. They call it 'FreeDUMB' now.
So yeah, no need for such a silly thing like that anymore. Freedom is silly.
This weekend #OccupyChurches - Join the Protest against Satan! All Souls Matter!!!
I can't find any Christians around that will stand up to this. I've even had Christians get angry when I suggest that Newsom's executive order is dubious at best and churches should just refuse it. We serve God, not a governor. If churches get fined, the congregation tithes every week, so they can pay the fines and bring a case against the state of California.
And no one will do anything about this. We will simply whine about this in our little digital ghetto and stay in our cages like good little tax cattle while the left continues to steamroll us.
How are we “winning” again?
yep. individuals won't win here. small crowds of people "protesting on the capital grounds" won't win. The end of all of this HAS to come from government. SOMEONE has to overrule these governors. We can't just "disobey" unless you have thousands of dollars to pay everyone's fines and spring them from jail for disobedience. So it's useless to talk about how you're going to just do what you want, not wear a mask in a store and whatever. Until your elected representatives grow a pair, we're stuck in this for the duration.
There isn't a political solution to this, unfortunately. We let it go too far for too long.
Haha yeah Barr will have Durham on your ass in no time flat if you resist in any meaningful way.
Or those who work in critical infrastructure and utilities stop going to work and a million Californians surround Newsom until he follows the law of the land. Relying on govt will not end well.
God is patient and long suffering but make no mistake he is watching and his patience has an end.
The Gov Of California breaking the law. He is mandating you cannot go to your place of worship in direct violation of the Constitution.A.G. Barr has made it perfectly the Government will not interfere with people going to church.
Statement from Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband on Federal Court's Religious Liberty Ruling Concerning New York City and New York State Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband of the Civil Rights Division issued the following statement in response to the federal court ruling today regarding religious liberty in New York City and New York State:
"Today’s federal court decision is a win for religious freedom and the civil liberties of New Yorkers. Government cannot discriminate by protecting free speech and the right to assemble while threatening or limiting religious exercise – it must protect all rights guaranteed under the First Amendment. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-assistant-attorney-general-eric-dreiband-federal-courts-religious-liberty-ruling
lol
Doesn’t the Constitution prohibit exactly this?
The only thing that matters is power. Words on paper don't mean jack shit if you don't have the power to back them up.
Are mosques and synagogues exempt?
Enjoy the gelding, you California cucks.
It ends the instant you stop complying and start asserting your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
YOU KNOW. THE THING. THE THING YOUR ANCESTORS SACRIFICED EVERYTHING TO GIVE TO YOU. Did you all take thinking lessons from Joe Biden? Hello? Anybody alive with balls still in California other than Devin Nunes?
Reminds me of that brave ladypede patriot who charged ahead on the beach and all the men stood and watched. So did the other chicks. YOU MADE THIS BED, CALIFORNIA. And we ALL have to suffer for your cowardice because of the economic and social fallout. YOU FAILURES! FIX IT NOW!
When the ocean swallows California, all those "raptured" out by lifeboats will sigh the same lament
Maybe Jefferson State seems like something you won't discount and start seriously considering as a TOOL OF DEFENSE OF YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
Seriously, my prosperous Cali friends are losing everything and still won't admit the obvious to themselves. THEY KEEP COMPLYING!
My church embarrasses me more every single day. What a bunch of emasculated hypocrites. Beautiful buildings and temples still carefully manicured by landscaping companies.
NO MEMBERS ALLOWED IN.
prophets seers and revelators my ass. more like scribes, pharisees, and sadducees. if Jesus came tomorrow, my church would crucify him as an apostate today and complain more about Newsom, the Covidol, and 501c3. Hope the billions stashed in digital currency was worth your soul.
HYPOCRITES!
California has been invaded by illegals and taken over by communists. So we're blaming the remaining Americans residing in enemy territory for being oppressed, when none of us will go to their aid. They already voted against this bullshit in 1994 with Proposition 187. Our great and wonderful courts said that was illegal, and they were flooded with illegal immigrants. Now those immigrants have had children, and those children have been raised to hate America and wish for its destruction.
Why should we be blaming the remaining Americans there when the rest of the country stood by and allowed it to happen, and keeps allowing it?
indoor "protests?" the fuck?
Police who enforce this are communists and should be shot.
Very sad day for America :(
It's been a sad year. Constitutional rights trampled all over the place. Illegal behavior everywhere, and no one is doing anything to stop it.
I don't know about you but i'm getting REAL tired of our freedoms getting walked all over... Real fucking tired of it.
It sucks because nobody is going to do anything. We'll all just post memes and complain while the left continues to step on the people's rights.
Yeah I dont get it. If the president is powerless to do anything now, how will that change after the election?
If they had done this just 10 years ago there would be mass protests, today everyone just seems to accept anything.
Yup. I previously dismissed as baseless conspiracy theories the assertion that the coronavirus lockdown was exploited as social engineering designed to lull society into complacency when it comes to these sorts of directives from government, but now I'm starting to think there really is something to it.
Californians don't have rights they have privalages if this stands
Hey Mr. Bagpipes. Do your damn job.
My Christian friends in LA and OC are driving me absolutely insane, agreeing with these restrictions, kissing Newsom's butt and fighting me for saying I think this is an attack on our religious rights. They say "YOU think YOU'RE a persecuted Christian? Ha! So ignorant, you have no idea what's going on in other countries. You can watch church on TV, you aren't a victim, honey. You're not a good Christian if you're willing to put someone else's life at risk."
I'm glad someone is worried about their religious freedoms because they don't even know how close they are to losing them completely.
Same. I've heard fellow "Christians" going ballistic over a news story that a church of 100 people stayed open past the date that they were suppose to shutdown. They think it's going to hurt the image of Christians, but they refuse to stop the deterioration of Western Civilization, which is built on Christianity. They sit back as their pastors preach homosexuality is okay and whites need to atone for slavery. It's sad to see them fall for Satan's lies while claiming to be worshiping Jesus.
Exactly this. It's really hard to see and idk how to not sound like an asshole while trying to explain to my friends that they need to examine the "Christianity" they're living and preaching.
Honestly, some of my friends are more concerned with what random, non believers think about them than what Jesus thinks about them. They're falling away so easily and I don't know how to help.
Challenge them to look at the bigger picture. Tell them they've got their heads down and are only seeing a tiny corner of the movie screen, but if they'd look up and step back they would see the entire picture.
Tell them it's not about a virus. Or masks. Or "social distancing." Ask them what they think it's REALLY about. What else is happening in other US cities? What pattern do they see?
Because there is a pattern and they are missing it. Play a game with them. Ask them what they see besides what's solely happening in their neighborhood. Tell them you see it but you want to know what THEY see.
P.S. Your friends are getting high off of their virtue signaling and from smugly telling you that they are Good Christians and you are not.
People who are low on the social scale love nothing more than feeling superior to someone who is naturally higher up there than they are. This is why they are so blind to the bigger picture, because their drug of smug superiority kicks in and they don't ever want that to end.
Trump MUST step in and put a stop to these rogue states. We occupied states with the national guard for less but this calls for a purge. Banning worship and protests is a clear violation of the Constitution and the federal government is OBLIGATED to defend the rights of Americans.
Its time to end this.
I don't remember voting for or against Sonia Y Angell.
Looked her up:
"Dr. Angell is a former deputy commissioner for prevention and primary care at the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, from 2014 to 2019" https://www.cdph.ca.gov/meet-the-director
Fucking New Yorker.
All indoor church services ANS protests must cease.
So it’s
Ok to protest and demand that the state reopen outside.
It’s ok to hold church services outside.
I guess California forgot that Trump mandated that places of worship are an essential service?
Edit: AP News Article from May on Executive Order
I would think if religious leaders just opened up shop and allowed people in they wouldn't be able to arrest everyone.
I implore all religious individuals in CA to do just that. FUCK THE STATE.
If the state replaces religion communism wins.
This is not the role of the government as set forth by the constitution. We aren’t the ones needing sent to re-education camps... maybe one of the commies should have their definitions examined.
We quit giving a fuck what our governor says 6 months ago. Join the party.
protests are on the list?? Because they know Orange County pedes fight back!
Just like masks.
It's going to last for years. If you think this will be all over after November even if they don't win the WH. Then you're going to be in for a shock in December. One of the most important months in the Church's calendar.
Christians not being able to pray together and remember the birth of Jesus Christ will be a massive victory to socialism in America.
Next will be the rounding up and arrests of Christians and priests that go against socialist law.
Sounds like canopy church services need to pop up all over the state. Or maybe get some giant screens and have some drive-in revivals. They don't want the sanctuary building open, well then they'll get to hear the gospel being preached and hymns being sung on outdoor mics. Let God's word be heard even louder.
does this include mosques I wonder?
Mosques are terrorist training camps, so no.
Posting this again, wake up Cali pedes! These people are out to get you, they are just using the virus as an excuse. This is a statist wet dream. Please sign and drop off, have the family sign, bring a friend.
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This is fucking gay.