FAKE NEWS FAKES AGAIN
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edit: 90s music was weird
edit2: the 90s version was actually a sample of a 60's Monkees track. I'm a noob
the fake news has gotten to the point they are blatantly lyingg
the reality is we should not be allowing this in America. there is no reason to allow fake use in America. there's no reason to allow something that is bad for America to operate in America. It is time to take action against the fake news and at the very least issue a fine to every outlet every time its lyingg
it's time to rein it in
You mean 60's music?
well, shit. I feel like that guy who tweeted how much he loved kanye for finding new talent like Paul McCartney
(even though it was a joke tweet)
Did she just blind me with science?
No she did say this. But it was taken out of context or perhaps a word misplacement. Typical verbal error where the intent is obfuscated by the media. I remember hearing her say it and it seemed out of place so i took it as error
It wasn't really a verbal error, she just used an awkward phrase that could be misinterpreted. She obviously meant the science supports the administration's view, so it doesn't stand in the way of going back to school. She clarified it more with the next few sentences. This is just dishonest, fake news by scumbag leftists.
I remember watching this live and her doing this thinking they are going to do exactly what we are seeing here with this article. Any minor slip up or whatever the hell it was and they will RUN with it. I just saw it as a fumble while reading, thats it. Its so fucking pathetic what the msm has to resort to.
It's enemy behaviour. The mockingbird media is tyranny's best ally.
Just like when they said Trump told everyone to inject themselves with Clorox. He didn't even remotely say that, but they still run with that lie to this day.
I think she meant “the media should not stand in the way of this.”
As the media acts like a stand-in for science
No, her words were 100% accurate.
Will the science get in the way of this? No, the science will not get in the way of this, because the science supports this, it doesn't go against it.
Cut that down, and boom, you got yourself your fake news.
Not an error. Perhaps a bad way of wording it, since it gives the fake news media a quote to chop out and plaster on their front page, but she means "The science shouldn't stand in the way of this, because the science supports our position."
In context, that meaning is clear. Stripped from context, it gives WaPo a quote to feed their retarded viewership so they can circlejerk about how "ORANGE MAN IS ANTI-SCIENCE!"
We need this quote in every headline: "it gives WaPo a quote to feed their retarded viewership so they can circlejerk"
After that? No story is needed. Win-win, everybody's happy. Pay the story writers just as much because their readership doesn't read the stories anyway - much less their corrections.
Thanks 0bama!
Also congreff!
Just before this portion of the briefing she did say that line unfortunately. I thought to myself... "did she just say that? they're going to have fun with it." #shocker they did. But thankfully she clarified soon afterwards.
It's like what the did toe AG Barr on the "history is written by the winners" interview twisted by chuck todd.
SIgh.......... I have to butt in here just so we can make sure we are aligned on what should and should not be criminal....... You simply cannot have a free society and criminalize speech. Of any kind. Even misquotes.... Think about the consequence of this for a second.
What if you misquoted someone, even unintentionally. You are now a criminal? Come on. You don't want that type of governance.. That's why you are here.
Please take a few breaths and think very hard before you ever use the phrase "which should be criminal". Because those type of ideas are they very thing we are warring against. When you speak it, someone else may see it, latch on the ill-thought idea and let that govern the way they think, which in all eventuality leads to leftism.
I am saying all this not to beat you down, but merely from a hope that we all continue to critically think about the things we suggest as policy. It's the only way we avoid the type of mess we find ourselves in.
One little anecdote tho.... The only good thing to come from speech censorship/criminalization is 'thedonald.win. Don't expect that result everytime.
Thank you. I've been beating this drum. We need a valid counter to this problem, and they have effectively silenced all of us so that the majority hears only MSM spew. Short of killing them all I see no resolution, but I do hope something less drastic might somehow work and we get a valid counter. BEFORE November - that is a MUST.
To be fair, you could keep your doctor. It just wouldn't be covered by insurance!
lol yep...
I'm done with press freedom. It has been exploited long enough.
If they can not show that exact quote with a video they should be open to lawsuits. I won’t pretend I’m an expert, I don’t know if that’s already the case or not but they’ve made it abundantly clear that it should be the case. I could understand sometimes there will not be a video but in this case it’s from a fucking news conference. It wouldn’t be hard to prove either way and if it isn’t exactly what she said than fuck them, put the real quote and let readers decide what it means.
The 'press' in freedom of the press is the printing press and the right to print as you see fit like Thomas Paine did. There is no mythical 'press' group made up by the news media, freedom of the press is for all of us.
THANK YOU. People often misunderstand this, when the founders meant “the press” they meant it as in the literal printing press. Ie. it’s perfectly legal for me to print a million copies of a crazy theory about lizard people from mars owning McDonalds and no one can stop me.
Well put. Much like "militia" from the Latin 'miltium vulgarem' "like the military, everywhere" The enemy of the people doesn't care, words mean whatever the Minitru says at any given time.
His point doesn't address what is and isn't mainstream because that's irrelevant.
The free press you speak of probably hasn't ever occurred, or at least not for very long. A great example is the local newspaper man character in the tv show Deadwood (a show about a wild west mining town that essentially govern themselves in the former dakota territory). His character is the scrupulous, well-meaning media man who wants to deliver the news to the good people of Deadwood. He's providing a service to the people and intends to do right by them in this position of great honor. As the show goes along, he maintains this attitude, but once he realizes his importance to those who actually run the town, he becomes a part of their world, because his paper is a powerful weapon. And every now and then, he's "forced" (although the reasoning is objectively sound) to choose sides and uses the newspaper "for what is best." But that's him deciding what is best, not unlike a dictator. You hope for the benevolent one but more times than not you get the malevolent one.
Personally, I don't think the press is something to ever be relied upon as anything approximating the objective truth. At least on the scale of decades, it is not in our nature to maintain such a thing. It is only realistically appealing if you suffer from the just-world fallacy. There is way too much on the line (as there has always been) for leaders to suffer someone behaving as a quasi leader by dictating info.
Enjoyed that show and analogy. Not-fun fact, that actor was convicted of soliciting sex from underage boys and photographing it.
Balderdash. That's like saying you're against free speech because people say stupid shit. Wapo is free to make fake news and we're free not to give them money.
They are doing massive amounts of damage that cannot be undone simply because we don't pay them.
I live in Idaho and I am blown away by the amount of people who follow the fake news like it's a religion. How can we win the culture war with CCP propaganda running wild across EVERY news story, and people believe every word? So many here don't even believe in fake news. My coworker uses CNN as his news source, because "Trump hates it so it must be right."
"Trump is Authoritarian for not sending data to the CDC!" Uh, the CDC is a non profit, so no, that isn't authoritarian, yet the fake news is just pushing this shit. IN IDAHO FFS!!!
Something MUST be done. Too many of us are losing faith. It is very discouraging.
If you get rid of fake news by removing freedom of the press, you'll just make the problem worse.
Could you imagine one source of news and it's the government?
Don't let fake news get you down, fuck with it. Use it to red-pill people. No one trusts CNN, even the people that watch it.
they can literally make up complete made up bullshit like the RUSHAAA story and get away with it. This is not what press freedom should mean.
The writer of this article should be locked up for lying to the American people. A minimum sentence of a year for each blatant, intentional lie.
Nah fuck that. Hanged.
If you intentionally spread lies in order to sew discord between Americans, you are an enemy of the people and should be summarily executed for sedition, and conspiracy to commit terrorist acts, as we've seen terrorist acts performed by those who obey the TV.
Not trying to be a smart ass here. This is a real question. I'm not a lawyer, so I have no idea. But I figure some pede might have better knowledge.
Is there a rule/law or a legal basis in which someone can sue a news source like The Washington Post for publishing fake news?
Not a lawyer either, but I think you would have to prove intent to mislead/slander which is very difficult.
There used to be, but it is now legal to publish blatant propaganda. Obama changed that rule, there used to be a way to go "no, no lying and propaganda allowed", but now you can't do that.
I'm definitely not a legal expert myself, but I did take a media law class in college. To address your question, an individual theoretically could sue a media outlet based on certain content that was published. The problem, though, is that the plaintiff would then bear the responsibility of proving the media outlet's intentions.
The proof level that someone needs to reach tends to differ, depending on the person's status. President Trump and other individuals within his administration would likely be classified as public figures; therefore, they would be held to a higher set of standards than private citizens by having to prove actual malice rather than mere negligence. In other words, the entire ordeal would, unfortunately, not come without its share of challenges.
In my view, the standards by which anyone must prove media misconduct should be loosened a bit. What we've been witnessing in the media lately is not at all what the Founding Fathers envisioned with "freedom of the press."
yeah why can't they just be required to not call it news, just like I can't sell a box of tofu and call it ribeye?
so fake even Tapper called it out.
You have to wonder what the demand is for straight, factual news in this country. You'd think some entrepreneur would be out to build a network centered around fact-based reporting and unbiased investigative journalism. Maybe we just like our opinions reinforced and to live in echo-chambers? I hope that's not the case.
My wife asked me where to get unbiased news yesterday. The BLM riots awoke her inner political monster and she’s raging and wants to have facts. I told her ‘you won’t find unbiased news. Just read for the facts. Check for REAL sources. REAL quotes. Then use them to make your own story.” I literally had no answer for her. It’s so fucking sad.
It really is. I've had this same conversation with many family members and friends. Several of them never bother because it's more difficult and time consuming than what is spoon fed by the legacy media.
https://knowherenews.com/
The system is rigged..
Sadly I don’t see that happening in the near future.
Even Hussein called Tapper out for selling out to fake news CNN.
he probably just wants his son to stop calling him “fake news”
Fake noose thinks its audience is retarded.
Most of it is.
imagine unironically listening to and trusting MSM at this point. You'd have to be braindead.
And those same people call YOU braindead for seeing right through the bullshit.
I mean to be fair, the audience that actually pays attention to it has TDS so bad it'll believe 2 + 2 = 5 if 2 + 2 = 4 somehow casts a negative light on Trump or his base in any way.
Don't forget some idiot leftist professor tried to argue 2+2=4 was racism just a week ago.
It is simply because those are all even numbers. None of them are odd.
Yeah I had that in mind when I wrote that lol.
They don't think that, they know that.
Its WaPo. They have a paywall which most people dont pay to get through. They can tweet out a headline even if the article is the complete opposite and it has the aura of truth because of the source
They aren't wrong. You are not their audience.
Dresden study, Ireland study, New South Wales study, University of Vermont study, Chinese study. These all show kids rarely get or spread the virus. The science is obviously overwhelmingly on the side of reopening.
The only question I have is (I don't know if there are studies yet) are children also less likely to spread this?
Given that the CDC and WHO both admitted that it was "very rare" for asymptomatic carriers to spread the virus, it's simple reason that will show you that it is true that kids probably won't spread it since they almost never show symptoms if they even catch it in the first place.
EDIT: Add to that they found the virus needs something called ACE2 to invade the cell wall, and most kids don't have much of that. It would be like something trying to stick to Teflon.
My 10 year old daughter had a fever and mild headache out of the blue, Monday. We took her to her doctor. They tested her. They called today and said it was positive.
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Those studies address this.
We're almost to 150 media lies folks! 14 more to go!
https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/06/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/
We're well past 150, lets be honest. No joke, there's usually at least one a day MINIMUM
Tell them it's just an extremely late term abortion and they'll be onboard?
20 years ago
I actually saw an unhinged lib on a local facebook group say opening schools was marching kids into death camps.
"I would write more on this subject, but I have an appointment for my monthly abortion and I'm getting late."
right? If all the kids get sick in September in school, at least they'll go quickly and be spared a slow starvation from "muh climate change".
Just like all 30 of the under-14-year olds who have died so far.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
They're more likely to drown in their backyard pools during their extended vacation than they are to get coronavirus from school.
FULL Quote:
"The president has said unmistakably that he wants schools to open. And I was just in the Oval talking to him about that. And when he says open, he means open and full, kids being able to attend each and every day at their school. The science should not stand in the way of this. And as Dr. Scott Atlas said, I thought this was a good quote. Of course, we can do it. Everyone else in the Western world, our peer nations are doing it. We are the outlier here. The science is very clear on this that for instance, you look at the JAMA Pediatric study of 46 pediatric hospitals in North America that said the risk of critical illness from COVID is far less for children than that of seasonal flu."
"Does not" was the concise way to say what she meant. People screw up words all the time. Heck I'm old enough to remember if if if if if
This should be at the top.
Flatten the curve they said not stay locked up for 2 years. More bait and switch lies
Yeah... I seem to have missed the point where "15 days to flatten the curve" turned into "15 weeks to stop the spread".
TBH, Trump should have just said, "You have an immune system, use it. If you're sick, stay home; otherwise man the fuck up, buttercup." It would have been just as effective at countering the 'rona and wouldn't have toppled the economy.
"15 years to reeducate a generation."
Any type of media name with the word "Post" or "Times" shouldn't be allowed to post shit online anymore
These are good usually
I hate to say it but unfortunately yes, if I start cherry picking than I'd be no better than a liberal
NY post and washington times are good
So instead of cherry picking and editing stuff into fake headlines, they’re just straight up lying and paraphrasing
And this is not illegal? Quotation marks around something that someone didn't say.
She did say it, but they took it out of context. She meant the science doesn't say we shouldn't re-open schools.
No where in her quote the words "... should not stand in the way of this" even appeared, so I wouldn't say that they're taking her words out of context, they are just putting in her mouth things she didn't said..
she literally said it. the post left that part out
Yeah, I just get to that part very very deep in the comments, OP was kinda misleading too, OP should work for Washington compost.
Watch the video.
I read the quote on the image OP posted, we shouldn't use the same misleading tactics the commies use to promote their ideas or to present their "facts" to the people, half truths and things like that are the complete opposite of what we support in this site.
That's why I replied "she did say it" to someone asking for clarification. Then you decided to correct me after I had stated that it wasn't the entire quote...
When I read what you said I went to the image and read like 3 times and thought the "she said" was something implied not literally. As I said, this site is better than commie propaganda tactics of deceit and half truths.
Yea, I made a different post with the complete quote in context vs. what the fake news said, but this is the one that got stickied. They should be better you're right.
She says it at 2:16:14 https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=WAt-64eUclg
The only thing I know for sure about the mainstream media is: they lie to me.
The libs also know this. The difference is that the media tells the lies that the libs want to hear.
They despise her more than they even do Trump. Why? Because she's 10 x better looking and 10 x smarter. I'd add more but that's it.
EDIT: What trolling pedo antifa fuckwad would downvote this obvious statement of fact? Go back to Bangok and do whatever it is you do, fucktard.
Well, yeah. That's what WaPo said, science should not stand in the way of them using Covid as an excuse for mail in so the can rig 2020.
No it’s right. We can’t let science get in the way. We have to open up and get back to normal if we want to win in November. That means everything is open, kids are all back in school, and no fucking masks. Trump needs to stop getting tested 10 times a day to show that this flu is nothing to worry about. The “science” is fucking us over!
Quiet retraction might come after a few days of the fucking retards howling and screeching that OMG DRUMPF IS ANTI SCIENCE
WaPo going for that top fake news spot and is skyrocketing up the list
Twitter Link : https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1283842082646433792
thank you
I cringed when she said those words in that order. Knew immediately what the articles were gonna say. She clarified only 2 sentences later. . . She's gotta be more precise than that.
Same, she made a clear mistake but it was more of a “typo” than an actual factual error.
She misspoke and then clarified immediately afterwards.
I noticed she misspoke at the beginning of that and knew it was going to be taken out of context. Such scum
These retards think it isn't obvious she meant schools should reopen BECAUSE of the science, not DESPITE the science. You have to have TDS to immediately gobble this shit up.
Fake news has to resort to fake quotes. Journalism is dead.
She did say that. But it was an accidental misstatement that was contradicted by every bit of context before and after it. Sickening dishonesty and manipulation.
Totally believable. Enemy of The People.
The White House should take legal action against whoever wrote that. It's clearly libel, she didn't even say the words they put in quotes.
We have very few virtuous spreaders of truth
Is she one of the most beautiful women ever?
I was watching Tim Pool savage the media for doing this blatantly out of context reporting. He literally called them The Enemy of the People. I found it ironic as he continuously praises Jon Stewart who did literally the same thing during the Bush years. Pool seems to lack any self-awareness on how he was the manipulated fool for the media when he was younger. Much as the young people are the easy marks for the fake news today.
All their mouth breather readers response. Derp stoopid orange man lady speeker
She didnt contradict herself. She means "the science shouldn't be in opposition to this" which her later statement clarifies as being because the science should back the plan to reopen.
You are correct. It stood out like a sore thumb when I heard it (I watch all her press briefings partially because I have a huge crush on her lol), and I realised that she had misspoken. I was waiting for her to correct herself, which she did, essentially, in her next two sentences, but she didn’t address her error of speech. I immediately got stressed because I knew someone would exploit the omission.
You have to be super careful. This is something I really like about Jordan Peterson - if he makes an error of speech, he stops, apologises, and then repeats the sentence as it should be. This is what I do now, too, and it’s very good practice.
I’m sure Kayleigh won’t make this mistake again!
IMO she clearly meant: “the science should not (be taken to/ be interpreted to) stand in the way of this”. As evidenced by the fact that immediately after saying this she cited some science to support that...
WaPo, lies? As in, outright LIES? Say it isn't so!?!
I am shocked. SHOCKED I tell you!
Sue the post for libel.
Good god. How did they even pull that one out of the hat?
She actually said that sentence.
I guess I should have implied more how it was out of context. It's not journalism anymore, it's creative writing for the mentally ill.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/highrisk/children.htm
"Even though the reported number of deaths during the 2017-2018 flu season was 187, CDC’s mathematical models that account for the underreporting of flu-related deaths in children estimate the actual number was closer to 600."
600 kids die per year from the flu according to the CDC. Zero from COVID.
yeah, that's because COVID is just a really bad cold, like every other coronavirus-inspired respiratory infection.
kids don't die from a cold.
old people die from being old.
immuno-compromised people die from being immuno-compromised.
we shouldn't cower in abject fear because of the bullshit super-sniffles.
Fuckers know precisely what they are doing...they know people won't click further nor listen to the video so they got them all hook line and sinker...
That was a stupid line to say, regardless of the context - or what it followed. She KNOWS the fucking MSM is just waiting for soundbites and phrases to take out of context - and they gave it to them in a silver platter.
What the fuck was she thinking.
China putting thousands of minorities into trains to ship them to concentration camps for their hair and organs to be harvested
MSM: Got em! We finally got something McEnany said we can take out of context!
These people are a disgusting bunch of scums
Anyone have a link to the study she mentions?
The Washington Post doesn't understand why satire and intentionally "fake news" gets to makeup quotes but they can't.
One of the things that Alex Jones was a prophet about, is that this is an InfoWar, on many fronts.
You can see sloppy data and incomplete papers in just about every subject these days, but to see a trio of people that really brought out how science has been perverted by these 'scientists', it might be good to lookup James Lindsay, Peter Boghossian, and Helen Pluckrose. None of this trio are anything approaching right-wing; and they still identified the corruption in the system.
To summarize they made - and submitted, a bunch of bogus experiments to 'scientific' journals, with such topics as 'anal penetration makes men more sympathetic towards transgenderism', among many, many other sham studies that were devoured by the system, and even won awards.
Applied Postmodernism: How "Idea Laundering" is Crippling American Universities - or their Joe Rogan podcast might be worth a watch if you have an hour or three and an interest in the topic.
Can I get the video on this so I can send it to the retards
Is anyone able to link the study she mentioned? I’ve been looking but can’t find it.
She said what she said!! The science absolutely should NOT get in the way of this. That was what she started the quote with from GEOTUS himself. There’s a reason he wanted it said exactly in that way.
Our elected officials’ job (especially the President) is to make JUDGEMENT calls based on values. Science is one aspect of the equation.
Falling into the trap of prioritizing science at all costs is the game the leftists want us to play. They have successfully politicized academia and science itself. Even if the institutions are not all corrupt the filtration of information absolutely is (whether due to social media, MSM, and/or grant contingencies).
Besides, nowhere in human history did we not collectively assume the greatness and infallibility of our unprecedented scientific achievements and understanding only to be proven wrong later.
I would not want to live in a “Scientocrity” ever. It’s not even possible as the use of value adjudication will inevitably become necessary. We all need to comprehend and defend this vital distinction, and trust in our public servants, with the full understanding that their power rests in us, the people.
Thus, blindly trusting “science” is anti-democratic. Even attempting to justify every decision on science plays into their hands. Think of the “scientific truths” that are en vogue these days (climate change, gender confusion, anti-religion, anti-capitalism, racial grievances, I could go on).
We MUST fight back against this notion of caving to science and spread the truth that this country, and all successful societies, are and should be founded on the wisdom of tradition, multivariate viewpoints, and ultimately the will of the freedom-loving people, for better or worse.
I've seen fake new but where the fuck did they get this bullshit from!!
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