The distinction between Unions being legal in one vs the other is artificial. One could make the case that a Union of public servants could have some limits put on them, and that has happened. You could argue that more are needed, and that's evidently true. But banishing Unions altogether for public servants, while pretending that doesn't serve to dismantle Unions in the private sector is laughably naive.
A job is still a job. A working stiff is still a working stiff. Upper management still gets ridiculously more money for doing ridiculously less. Nothing has ever tackled that problem as effectively as a Union. That hasn't been effective for many decades, which doesn't mean Unions should be destroyed. It means the problem should be fixed.
Collectively bargaining with your employer for produced wealth is in no way similar to collectively bargaining with bureaucrats to confiscate wealth from taxpayers who have no choice but to pay up, and whose land and homes will be taken by force when they no longer can. Want to serve the public? Time to make some sacrifices. Most of these public sector Unions are fundraising operations for the damned Democrats anyway. I wish American ideals still held sway in America, but we seem to have been taken over by pathetic socialists. I feel more and more isolated by the day dealing with this idiocy and weakness.
The idea of wage earners working to confiscate wealth is not factual, unless you're talking about employees of regulatory agencies.
Government employees get paid from taxes, which can be described as confiscated wealth; but they don't "bargain with bureaucrats to confiscate wealth" as you claim. That's done by legislators, who certainly don't make up the working class. Do they have a Union per se? I think they wield FAR more power than any Union, and your energy would better be used trying to curtail that.
Regulatory agencies violate Constitutional separation of powers, serving the function of all 3 branches of government. They self fund, collecting fines for violating regulations they wrote, and decided were broken. This injustice should be fought with extreme prejudice, but going after any Union possibly involved doesn't begin to address the real problem, which is the agency itself. And again, the working stiff is not the one creating the injustice, nor profiting obscenely from it; those in that position aren't usually even eligible for Union representation.
State tax collectors are actually legal. Federal income tax collectors, which is all the IRS is, merely collect for the Federal Reserve Bank. Not a penny of that ever went to the US government in any form. Do their employees have a Union? They actually confiscate wealth.
Nothing here is socialism. Taxation for a social safety net may be considered as "socialist policy" if you like, but that's not socialism. And the violent revolution that is currently attempting to overthrow the US isn't geared to simply making the sovereign US socialist; the goal is to erase US sovereignty and replace it with OWG. Again, busting Unions merely serves their tactic of divide and conquer, while doing nothing to benefit anyone other than the richest of the rich. (Possibly more than the 1%)
Public sector unions use threats to strong-arm politicians, who are effectively bureaucrats not representatives (esp. in states like mine w/o any vote integrity), to raise their own salaries from confiscated wealth. If you want a high paying job, get out of public service. That said, the public school system is not a service but a plague, and I would love to see it dismantled entirely.
Your State has 0 vote integrity. Expound on how that goes wrong? This should be our #1 focus now, IMHO. In my State of WI, the USPS "lost" a bunch of mail in ballots in our primary in April, all of which were R. In 2018 D's frauded their way into the Governor's seat the usual way, bringing boxes of fraudulent mail in ballots at the last minute.
How much of that has to do with public sector Unions I couldn't say. Obviously politicians shouldn't be strong-armed by anyone, and Unions should not have the power to do so. Thinking that public servants will be the poorest among us isn't reasonable, but the rank and file could be effective with modest pay, and their superiors not much different; that's where the problem lies.
Public education isn't going to be dismantled. It could / should become a "new normal," in that learning online shows who's willing to work because they excel, while others slouch. Unfortunately the best school system near me did nothing but review once schools were closed. The buildings would still remain useful for labs, sports, drama, music etc that can't be done individually. This could drastically reform education as we know it, for the better. It would also greatly facilitate more physical space, which would be a health benefit for staff far moreso than kids.
The DoE should be dismantled. Obviously that's the only reason Betsy DeVos was put in her position.
The distinction between Unions being legal in one vs the other is artificial. One could make the case that a Union of public servants could have some limits put on them, and that has happened. You could argue that more are needed, and that's evidently true. But banishing Unions altogether for public servants, while pretending that doesn't serve to dismantle Unions in the private sector is laughably naive.
A job is still a job. A working stiff is still a working stiff. Upper management still gets ridiculously more money for doing ridiculously less. Nothing has ever tackled that problem as effectively as a Union. That hasn't been effective for many decades, which doesn't mean Unions should be destroyed. It means the problem should be fixed.
Collectively bargaining with your employer for produced wealth is in no way similar to collectively bargaining with bureaucrats to confiscate wealth from taxpayers who have no choice but to pay up, and whose land and homes will be taken by force when they no longer can. Want to serve the public? Time to make some sacrifices. Most of these public sector Unions are fundraising operations for the damned Democrats anyway. I wish American ideals still held sway in America, but we seem to have been taken over by pathetic socialists. I feel more and more isolated by the day dealing with this idiocy and weakness.
The idea of wage earners working to confiscate wealth is not factual, unless you're talking about employees of regulatory agencies.
Government employees get paid from taxes, which can be described as confiscated wealth; but they don't "bargain with bureaucrats to confiscate wealth" as you claim. That's done by legislators, who certainly don't make up the working class. Do they have a Union per se? I think they wield FAR more power than any Union, and your energy would better be used trying to curtail that.
Regulatory agencies violate Constitutional separation of powers, serving the function of all 3 branches of government. They self fund, collecting fines for violating regulations they wrote, and decided were broken. This injustice should be fought with extreme prejudice, but going after any Union possibly involved doesn't begin to address the real problem, which is the agency itself. And again, the working stiff is not the one creating the injustice, nor profiting obscenely from it; those in that position aren't usually even eligible for Union representation.
State tax collectors are actually legal. Federal income tax collectors, which is all the IRS is, merely collect for the Federal Reserve Bank. Not a penny of that ever went to the US government in any form. Do their employees have a Union? They actually confiscate wealth.
Nothing here is socialism. Taxation for a social safety net may be considered as "socialist policy" if you like, but that's not socialism. And the violent revolution that is currently attempting to overthrow the US isn't geared to simply making the sovereign US socialist; the goal is to erase US sovereignty and replace it with OWG. Again, busting Unions merely serves their tactic of divide and conquer, while doing nothing to benefit anyone other than the richest of the rich. (Possibly more than the 1%)
Public sector unions use threats to strong-arm politicians, who are effectively bureaucrats not representatives (esp. in states like mine w/o any vote integrity), to raise their own salaries from confiscated wealth. If you want a high paying job, get out of public service. That said, the public school system is not a service but a plague, and I would love to see it dismantled entirely.
Your State has 0 vote integrity. Expound on how that goes wrong? This should be our #1 focus now, IMHO. In my State of WI, the USPS "lost" a bunch of mail in ballots in our primary in April, all of which were R. In 2018 D's frauded their way into the Governor's seat the usual way, bringing boxes of fraudulent mail in ballots at the last minute.
How much of that has to do with public sector Unions I couldn't say. Obviously politicians shouldn't be strong-armed by anyone, and Unions should not have the power to do so. Thinking that public servants will be the poorest among us isn't reasonable, but the rank and file could be effective with modest pay, and their superiors not much different; that's where the problem lies.
Public education isn't going to be dismantled. It could / should become a "new normal," in that learning online shows who's willing to work because they excel, while others slouch. Unfortunately the best school system near me did nothing but review once schools were closed. The buildings would still remain useful for labs, sports, drama, music etc that can't be done individually. This could drastically reform education as we know it, for the better. It would also greatly facilitate more physical space, which would be a health benefit for staff far moreso than kids.
The DoE should be dismantled. Obviously that's the only reason Betsy DeVos was put in her position.