Something that I've come to notice from some on the Conservative Right is their dire need to try to make it look like they have the power to tell a business owner what they can or cannot say, do, sell or whom they can or cannot hire or terminate.
Take for example Conservatives claiming that businesses shouldn't be able to deny them services for not wearing a face mask or that businesses that only hire Jewish employees are evil.
I understand that freedom of speech and being able to share what you think and why you think it is a building block of our great country, but there's also these things called none of your fucking business and/or being polite. What happened to common decency and respecting other's rights? You didn't put the plans together to make these companies, you didn't build them, you don't run them and you don't work for them. So why should you be able to dictate to business owners what you think they should do or not do?
Aren't Conservatives all about less regulations and laws? If this was true wouldn't it be proper to just let business owners run their businesses as they see fit, hire who they want to hire, fire whomever the want for any reason, deny service to whomever they want for any reason and sell whatever they want for any reason?
Ask the colorado civil rights commission that keeps suing that baker because he won't make a cake for a gay couple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission
I'm well aware of the Liberals and their desire to ruin this bakers life. However, I was addressing how Conservatives are acting. We all know Liberals are stupid pieces of shit, well, at least, I hope we all do.
My thoughts too, except owned governer made them mandatory.
I just don't go as of now. I don't need anything for a while so I'm kinda just in limbo of what I'm gonna do. I think about the masks being used to see who will comply and who they need to round up after they rig the 2020 election.
As should be your right. You're free to go someplace that doesn't require you to wear a mask, but shouldn't be able to sit there and dictate to the business owner what they require of you to do business with them.
Indeed, but it's not a polite thing to do. Having manners used to be a thing.
No, it's never too late to act civil. It's something that puts you on higher ground than the others. Hint - The bad people want you to get into the mud and act like they do.
For starters, it will get you surrounded by like minded people who also have manners. Birds of the same feather usually flock together. If you go around doing X you'll attract people that also do X.
This has to be a parody account. Username checks out.
Mind elaborating on what you meant by that comment?
I'm not trying to get people to like masks, but to just make people aware they are fighting over inanimate objects that actually do indeed work for what they were designed to work for. If you don't want to wear one feel free not to wear one, but if you wanted to come into my business and refused to wear one you'd be escorted out via any means necessary.
Blocked.
Because it sounds like a question the msmdnc would ask with their constant projection.
Okay. Well, do you think you have to right to enter someone else's business without a mask if they are requiring you wear one?
Shut up and bake me a cake bigot!
Where the hell are you getting your information from?
Remember all that shit you didn't say? Please explain yourself for saying it.
This is also my question. In fact, most of the people on the right ( at least the ones I know ) would agree with his sentiment that you should be able to hire/fire/serve/not serve whoever you want because it's YOUR business. But this isn't a 1 sided problem. Look at social media. Sure it's Twitter's business, but do you not have the right to speech on a PUBLIC platform? Discrimination laws have now been expanded to cover anything and everything now and any kind of refusal to serve will get you slapped with a lawsuit.
I agree. If you own your business then you should be able go run it how you see fit. Don't like trashy people? Dont hire them. Someone doesn't reflect good on your business? Fire them. But we ALL know we live in clown world now and normal isn't allowed. At the least, small businesses should be able to do this. Corporations? Not so much, as somethings can't be started up like a restaurant. Say Ford Chevy and Dodge and all cars companies said they wouldn't sell to women? Should this be allowed? It is their business after all. Or would that be under discrimination? This is a far reaching issue and the borders between "right to run" and "discrimination" lines are close and easily over stepped.
Just casual observations, picking up tidbits from various forums and news sites.
By chance, left leaning sites right?
Yes and no. I read various news publications from the left, center and right.
Is this fine?
Seems okay to me. You can feel free to obtain your goods and services elsewhere. If you can't then feel free to move or comply with the business owners requirements.
Apt username.
Bake me a cake bigot.
If you can refuse to serve me because my medical condition prevents me from being able to wear a mask then I should be able to refuse service to you for being gay, black, straight, asian, a worthless fucking democrat, etc. Is that the road you want to go down OP?
Business owners shouldn't be required to do business with anyone that they don't want to do business with. If that means denying service to you because you're homosexual, black or disabled then yes, they should be able to do that.
I agree, but thats not the way it is. Either the rules apply to everyone, or they apply to no one. Until the rules apply equally to everyone I'm not wearing a fucking mask.
If you force small businesses out of business then create new 'mandatory' rules at the 'approved' big businesses, get ready for heavily armed people to say "fuck your rules" and force their way in.
Your reply is one of the reasons if I owned a business it would fail. I wouldn't put up with customers who think they have a right to tell me how to conduct my business.
Your business would fail but it wouldn't be because of the customers. It would be because you are a half wit.
Nope, I would get arrested for removing people forcefully from my business as I would deny service to anyone I felt like denying service to. Sort of like how I date or what I choose to watch or buy. My business, my rules. Get the fuck out if you don't agree with me. That's why it would fail. I'd be in jail.
The left should have applied your ideas to a certain cake maker.
Indeed. If you don't like the service go someplace else.
And they weren't conservatives.
We just decide not to shop somewhere, while lefties try to impose their will via the law
Sadly, there has been some news as of late of Governors, Mayors, etc ... either making laws that you must wear a mask or that businesses can't require you to wear masks. Frankly, and this is just me, but I think they shouldn't have the power to demand those things from business owners.
Every law against masks I’ve heard of is a state gov mandating local govs can’t force them
That's not the way things have worked for many years. You can't even legally refuse to hire certain undesirables, and you think businesses should be able to reject you for not wearing a mask? Since the law is corrupt and forces undesirables on us, the least we can do is grab hold of the bullshit and use it for our own while we can. Fight fire with fire!
I do understand that business owners have been strapped with so many fucked up laws that I could personally never run one. I wouldn't be able to run it how I wanted to. I'd have to comply with all sorts of regulations, which do include hiring people I don't want to hire, doing business with people I don't want to do business with or not being able to deny services to people or fire shit employees.
It's sort of like how the Government thinks they can regulate what you can or cannot do in your own house. Frankly, I don't follow their rules and they can get fucked. This is why I could never run a successful business as if success required me to eat dirt on a daily basis I'd fight back and lose.
I agree with you. The interstate commerce clause needs to be re-re-interpreted so as to remove a lot of bad government regulations on private business. On the other hand I believe there needs to be a lot more anti trust regulation. The former hurts small business. The latter hurts large uncompetative corporations.