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WalkedAway2018 [S] 130 points ago +131 / -1

That's not true. I was a Democrat until 2 years ago. My whole family is still Democrat. None of us are racists. The problem is that the lefties have taken over the DNC. This is the reason I walked away. But I'm still a liberal in the traditional sense of the word. I hate the lefties and their socialist ideas, so I will vote red for as long as it takes for those assholes to get removed from office.

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dontUseVinegerAsLube 113 points ago +114 / -1

I think most people who refer to Democrats now a days are not talking about liberals, they are talking about the leftists. The party has been taken over by radical leftists.

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Amaroq64 45 points ago +45 / -0

For the longest time, I didn't differentiate. I'm still vague on what the difference is, except "the left" are the socialists and communists.

Also I used to be a party-line Democrat voter too.

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dontUseVinegerAsLube 43 points ago +44 / -1

Just remember this that the word "liberal" means:

"open to new behavior or opinions",

"concerned mainly with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with technical or professional training"

"liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law".

Leftists hate free speech, use cancel culture to get opposing views, behavior/opinons cancelled, are not concerned with broadening their own knowledge, hate liberty to the point where they will report you for not wearing a mask, don't believe in equality before the law (openly racist towards whites as well as conservatives, will send you to prison for life if you are right winger and support Trump - e.g. Flynn).

hypocrisy + double standards + cognitive dissonance + lots of emotions = leftists

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arebee 5 points ago +5 / -0

Sounds like liberals are the things before leftists, lol.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 18 points ago +18 / -0

That's the way I interpret it. The Left includes all those left of the median. So liberals, socialists, and communists are all left. But of course a lot of those people don't agree with each other. I'm liberal and I think socialism is absolutely bonkers. It's communist-lite, so fuck that shit.

Similarly, the Right is conservatives and fascists. Of course conservatives want nothing to do with the fascists, so they oppose those people just like we liberals oppose communists.

Back when I was a kid, both parties were closer to the center. Liberals and conservatives disagreed on policy, but both still loved this country. The conservatives never changed, but there aren't many of us true liberals left anymore. So while I might disagree with conservatives on policy, you guys are still fucking patriots like me. So I join you guys to keep the commies out of office.

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Amaroq64 17 points ago +19 / -2

That's awesome to hear about a real liberal for Trump, haha!

I'm more of a libertarian these days. (An Objectivist actually.) I never wanted to be a Trump supporter. I was only a Trump defender because people have been so incredibly unfair to him.

It was these last few months, with the incredibly monstrous things the far left have done to us with the covid and the race war, that really pushed me to be a Trump supporter.

I have fundamental disagreements with Trump and Conservatives, but it's not the lesser evil anymore. It's a flawed man who maybe doesn't know what he's doing sometimes, vs a pure evil who knows exactly what they're doing. For better or worse, we need Trump to win or we're fucked.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 13 points ago +14 / -1

Yeah, same here. There's plenty to criticize Trump about, but no more than most presidents of our past. Trump does some great things, and he does some foolish things. But he gets treated incredibly unfair by the media. So I am forced to come to his defense constantly.

That said, I'm absolutely voting for him over any of the trash the DNC was offering. The only person worse than Biden would have been Bernie.

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arebee 1 point ago +1 / -0

What are the foolish things

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synd1050 13 points ago +13 / -0

fascists are mostly left-wing. The founder of fascism is Mussolini, who was openly a socialist. There can be right-wing dictators like Franco and Pinochet but they are not fascists.

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Geologer 6 points ago +6 / -0

Giovanni Gentile came up with fascism, he disagreed with Marx about the revolution being a global class struggle. He thought it would come from the nationalist groups in each nation.

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Maga_trump2020 9 points ago +11 / -2

Fascists and communists are the same thing, just a different name. Both are scum.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 6 points ago +7 / -1

Two cheeks on the same ass.

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Maga_trump2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Great analogy. I assume we can both agree SJW's are the asshole between the cheeks?

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the-new-style 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's a wonderful lie that conservative is fascist lite.

Modern Conservatives are family unit individualist. Fascism Socialism and Communism are all collectivist.

Even more ironic that conservative is a word made up by French revolutionaries, as was reactionary.

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Geologer 8 points ago +8 / -0

People who call themselves socialist, just haven't decided if they're communists or fascists yet.

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DoIMAGAYouHornyBaby 3 points ago +3 / -0

The way i see it- since it is know whos taking over the party and the direction it is beaded- theres no difference

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Can't agree more with this statement. I'm trying to win my brother over, but he feeds in the media's bullshit and hates Trump. He sees the problems with the leftist but doesn't believe the problem is as serious as it is.

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MostEffectualTopKek 9 points ago +9 / -0

Have you shown your brother this and ask him to see if any of his views are tied into the fake news that the Democrats and MSM feel they need to feed him ?

https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/07/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 4 points ago +5 / -1

He won't watch what I send him anymore. He thinks I've been brainwashed. I dont want to hurt my relationship with him, so I don't hound him.

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magajew 6 points ago +6 / -0

Wait so the one that refuses to listen to the other side’s argument is the one that’s brainwashed? We see their side constantly. It’s the same side as the media, academia, Hollywood and their politicians. They never see our side except the misrepresentations of us that come from their side.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yeah, it's frustrating. But he's family, so I won't pester him. I think he'll come around eventually, but me pushing him will only make him dig in his heels. My mom's side of the family is second generation Italian. Being raised in that household, I've learned to not try to push an Italian into a certain direction. My brother is no different. He'll have to come over on his own terms just like I did.

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dontUseVinegerAsLube 3 points ago +4 / -1

Show your brother the definition of a liberal as I pointed out here:

https://thedonald.win/p/GIq3gwUb/x/c/140cgEggBG

And ask him if he's truly liberal if he's not open to different ideas, is unwilling to broadening his knowledge, doesn't support liberty of people to not wear masks, doesn't support equality before the law (Flynn) etc.

Also, I would suggest reading these 2 threads on how to red pill people correctly:

https://twitter.com/RonColeman/status/1274871779337568258

https://twitter.com/piney_the/status/1278164646726447104

Show them the video of Larry Elder red pilling Dave Rubin:

The Moment LARRY ELDER changed DAVE RUBINS Mind Forever (Systemic Racism):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phPXTWJhnYM

Full video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFqVNPwsLNo

Also ask him why Leo Terrell, a civil rights attorney is voting for Trump as the FIRST TIME Republican vote he's casting?

https://youtu.be/u8t1wpLGrLA

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usausausa5000 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think most people who refer to Democrats now a days are not talking about liberals, they are talking about the leftists.

Why do liberals still say this? The distinction disappeared like 100 years ago.

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dontUseVinegerAsLube 2 points ago +2 / -0

Because science and dictionary and math is racist!

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Raindrops1984 20 points ago +20 / -0

Yes, Democrats are racists. They believe minorities need to be cared for and given subsistence programs because they can’t take care of themselves. They believe minorities don’t know how to get a state ID, so voter ID is racist (which means they think minorities don’t own homes, drink, buy cigarettes, open bank accounts, go to a doctor, etc.). They believe minorities aren’t as smart as whites and Asians so need Affirmative Action to get into college. They believe that blacks couldn’t support cops because they’ve clearly only had bad interactions with police. They believe that minorities don’t thrive ever and should be given reparations like a coddled child.

It may be blamed on socialists taking over the party, but that IS the party now. Democrats are now socialists. So join the Lion Party.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 7 points ago +11 / -4

That's the Dems of today. I'm not one of them. I support social programs, but I think they are abused. I want more regulation on them so they can be used to give a guy a leg up when he's struggling and then get him back to supporting himself.

For example, I lived in section 8 housing 14 years ago. I hated it the entire time I lived there. I was living amongst people with zero drive. There was crime all around me. My wife and I had a newborn at the time. I was a teller at a bank, but I'm bilingual in Japanese, so when I met a Japanese customer one day I was able to talk myself into a job. I was hired as an accountant despite having no experience. He liked me though, and liked that I spoke Japanese. I was able to move out of section 8 after 1 year.

Fast forward to now, and I've since gone back to school to get a second degree in accounting and have my cpa now. But none of this would have been possible if I couldn't have used the social programs that were available to me. The difference is I saw them as a step to get out of a hole and others are fine just existing. We as a society can't continue to support those who won't work for something better. We assist those who are hurting, but cut them off if they don't make an attempt to better themselves. That's how Dems used to be, and that's how I want that party to become again.

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usausausa5000 7 points ago +8 / -1

I'm not one of them I support social programs, but I think thry are abused. I want more regulation

It's always amazing to hear someone say the solution to government being retarded is to just toss some more government on top of it. You people are helpless.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] -2 points ago +2 / -4

You took me out of context by cutting your quote off where you did. That's very disingenuous of you. I said I want more regulation on the social programs not on the people.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] -1 points ago +2 / -3

We can bring back that party. That's why I walked away. We vote out all the garbage on the left. Get them out. Make the DNC reconsider who their figureheads are. What policies are they supporting. Make them question how they went so wrong to make all of America turn against them. Then they can finally change back to being a good party.

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MocksFordComma 3 points ago +3 / -0

Make the DNC reconsider who their figureheads are.

Hey, just wanted to step in and say that I don't think this is ever going to happen. The people running the D show right now are NOT about giving up power and saying, "OH DARN our ideas didn't work. Maybe someone else should try." I mean, they will slit the throats of the people in their own party if they think it gets them ahead in the game.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] -1 points ago +1 / -2

I'm not saying it'll be an easy fight, but I will do it just the same. The liberals need a party. We're not the same as conservatives. Now we're all patriots, which is great, and as things are right now, I will happily vote conservative to fight against socialism. But if we can win the war against the anti-American left, I would like to go back to arguing with you guys on policy. Friendly arguing, but arguing just the same. Until then, we stand united against the left.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 0 points ago +2 / -2

Read the entirety of my post. There is good to be had in social programs, but not so long as they are abused like they are. Without a leg up, my family might still be living in poverty. But I used the program as it was intended and then ripped off the assistance as soon as I didn't need it anymore. It was a combination of the program and my own personal drive that got me out of the hole.

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tombombadil 2 points ago +2 / -0

You know who does far more good for the downtrodden then a social worker? A business owner. They took the financial risks to start the company that gave you the job/money that you needed to come out of poverty. The government didn’t give you anything except for an empty promise that would convince you to vote for them.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 0 points ago +2 / -2

I don't vote for them anymore. I'm saying there is value in social programs so long as we can reduce the corruption within. Of course capitalism is how we all win, but a little assistance can also be beneficial. I'm aware that the left uses those programs to keep the impoverished under their thumb. I'm aware the left cheats and connives. But just because they've ruined a thing, it doesn't mean there wasn't some positives with it to begin with.

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PurestEvil 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let me tell you something about Socialism and why it is utterly destructive. It is a longer read, but might be worth your time, because you might not read something like this anywhere else. I was pro-Socialism ~4 years ago too and turned into a Libertarian.

Socialism is not the savior of the poor as you might believe, it is the very mechanism that creates poverty for the sake of politicians able to pander for welfare money and virtue signal.

In the very essence, Socialism (primarily meaning welfare) bails out negative consequences of bad behaviors, thus incentivizing bad behaviors. It also taxes positive consequences of good behaviors, thus disincentivizing good behaviors. This alone ensures there is always a class of poor people living off of the government, who are stripped of their drive for self-improvement. Some people need to hit the wall - and luckily my wall was to save my dignity and NOT wanting to get welfare (my finances ran towards zero at the most critical point).

Other parts of Socialism means government interventionism in EVERYTHING.

  • Incompetent, abhorrent bureaucrats get well-paying jobs with a little power over people to manage destructive welfare programs while being something like a Middle Age nobility.
  • Big corporations (the major car industries, oil companies in the USA, mainstream media, Big Tech, etc) are favored by the government because they pay a lot of taxes (employment taxes) and are major entities which can be easily worked (they send their own regulators). They LOVE regulation and taxation because whatever hits them also hits their smaller competitors - and they will be crushed, while the big corporations prevail. This sounds like Economic Fascism, but guess what - National Socialists were Socialists too - and Marxists today generously apply National Socialist's economic guidebook (which btw is an improvement to their originally utterly destructive nationalization of everything).
  • Not only do they meddle in government owned domains like education to turn it into indoctrination camps with clown world point system for the sake of molding people into obedient, yet incompetent drones, they also meddle in the private sector to enforce Marxist rules: Minimum Wage destroys job below a certain threshold, race based quotas ensure hiring is dominated by Marxist principles rather than Individualist principles, work licensing by forcing government education curricula ensures smart people have to go through their brainwash system and also stifles competition and innovation.

Ultimately see it this way: When Democrats make people poor, dysfunctional, degenerate, government dependent, weak, ignorant and fanatical - they win voters and gain power. So how absurd is it to assume that causing economic havoc aligns with their goals and therefore intent? Do the Covid1984 measurements not show that they are purely driven to destroy the economy (while propping up the big players like Walmart), and do the actions during BLM not show they do not care the slightest about the well-being of business owners or decent people at all?

Socialism always was evil, because it maximizes the very thing that haunted humanity for eternity: Collectivism and the urge to control other people over abstractions. Collectivism in essence means hammering down the nail that sticks out - merely for the sake of having all nails being equal. Not only that, it also means a willingness to sacrifice the individual (its value, its liberties, its life) for the sake of the collective. The issue is merely that the individual is REAL while the collective is ABSTRACT. If you remove every individual there is no collective left - but if you remove the collective the individuals prevail. These collectives are merely imaginary - they are ideas often used to manipulate people into accept authorities of power. That goes for pre-WWI style hardcore nationalism just as for any socialist forms.

That is the core essence of leftists and socialists: Egalitarianism. Egalitarianism ONLY works by destroying, never by creating or improving, which is why every society that attempts to reach it ends in mass murder, utter poverty, technological regression and wealth inequality.

You do not just witness the radicalization of the left - you witness the TRUE FACE of leftists all along. What they show you today was in their core all along, and if you think hard enough - and you really should take your time to do that - you will see it is the core of your beliefs too, just a different magnitude. The principles are the same - you believe in "soft" Socialism, but you do not believe in Liberty and Individualism as the primary goals to work towards. People realize that they could have been like them now if things went differently.

Why? Because principles are fixed concepts, while magnitudes can vary. Saying that you believe in 25% Socialism, but 30% is too much doesn't mean much - see the difference as trivial as thinking a Minimum Wage of 20$/h is too much but 15$/h is ok. You accepted the premises that wealth redistribution and government interference in everyone's lives is ok (which are philosophically unethical, but that's another topic). Thus you empower people who seek the same - and when they go overboard there is no hard argument to muster for doing so. At best it's a minor disagreement, and over time everything will shift anyway.

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20KAG20 11 points ago +12 / -1

You’re technically not a Democrat if you support Trump. The DNC disowns you and the mob hates you.

I fully agree with you though. I had moderate, even left leaning, views in 2016 but once they started calling everyone racist nazis, I bailed. Now, even though my views haven’t changed, I’m considered far right. HA

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's definitely true. I've been ostracized by all the lefties on reddit, which is fine because socialists are fruitcakes. Dude, they call me far right all the time too, so I feel your pain.

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tombombadil 1 point ago +1 / -0

I feel your pain

There is no pain. We enjoy it when they show us how ridiculous they are. I suggest you learn to enjoy it as well, because we are your only friends now

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

But you wouldn't even accept the ring to keep it out of Sauron's hands.

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tombombadil 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or maybe I knew all along that the evil of Sauron could not prevail over the omnipotent goodness of Eru; so I decided to let that little hobbit be the one to defeat him, to show him how weak he truly is?

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Imransgarage 2 points ago +2 / -0

Both parties are heavily left of their own constituents.

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Click 10 points ago +10 / -0

You and your family might not be racists, but you and your family once supported the party of racism, terrorism, white supremacy, slavery, mass murdering of babies, and segregation. Glad you've walked away and left that despicable party, but it doesn't change their history of racism, terrorism, and countless acts of evil.

Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.

Why is this indisputable fact so rarely mentioned? PBS documentaries about slavery and the Civil War barely mention it, for example. One can certainly argue that the parties have changed in 150 years (more about that below), but that does not change the historical fact that it was the Democrats who supported slavery and the Republicans who opposed it. And that indisputable fact should not be airbrushed out for fear that it will tarnish the modern Democratic Party.

Had the positions of the parties been the opposite, and the Democrats had fought the Republicans to end slavery, the historical party roles would no doubt be repeated incessantly in these documentaries. Funny how that works.

Fact: During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

Yes, that was indeed a radical idea at the time!

Fact: Lincoln's Vice President, Andrew Johnson, was a strongly pro-Union (but also pro-slavery) Democrat who had been chosen by Lincoln as a compromise running mate to attract Democrats. After Lincoln was assassinated, Johnson thwarted Republican efforts in Congress to recognize the civil rights of the freed slaves, and Southern Democrats continued to thwart any such efforts for close to a century.

Fact: The 14th Amendment, giving full citizenship to freed slaves, passed in 1868 with 94% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress. The 15th Amendment, giving freed slaves the right to vote, passed in 1870 with 100% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress.

Regardless of what has happened since then, shouldn't we be grateful to the Republicans for these Amendments to the Constitution? And shouldn't we remember which party stood for freedom and which party fiercely opposed it?

Fact: The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and "ni**er-loving" (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them.

Why is this fact conveniently omitted in so many popular histories and depictions of the KKK, including PBS documentaries? Had the KKK been founded by Republicans, that fact would no doubt be repeated constantly on those shows.

Fact: In the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.

Fact: The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.

Fact: Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on government to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynical smear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy as greedy racists.

Following the epic civil rights struggles of the 1960s, the South began a major demographic shift from Democratic to Republican dominance. Many believe that this shift was motivated by racism. While it is certainly true that many Southern racists abandoned the Democratic Party over its new support for racial equality and integration, the notion that they would flock to the Republican Party -- which was a century ahead of the Democrats on those issues -- makes no sense whatsoever.

Yet virtually every liberal, when pressed on the matter, will inevitably claim that the parties "switched," and most racist Democrats became Republicans! In their minds, this historical ju jitsu maneuver apparently transfers all the past sins of the Democrats (slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow laws, etc.) onto the Republicans and all the past virtues of the Republicans (e.g., ending slavery) onto the Democrats! That's quite a feat!

It is true that Barry Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 probably attracted some racist Democrats to the Republican Party. However, Goldwater was not a racist -- at least not an overt racist like so many Southern Democrats of the time, such as George Wallace and Bull Connor. He publicly professed racial equality, and his opposition to the 1964 Act was based on principled grounds of states rights. In any case, his libertarian views were out of step with the mainstream, and he lost the 1964 Presidential election to LBJ in a landslide.

But Goldwater's opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act provided liberals an opening to tar the Republican Party as racist, and they have tenaciously repeated that label so often over the years that it is now the conventional wisdom among liberals. But it is really nothing more than an unsubstantiated myth -- a convenient political lie. If the Republican Party was any more racist than the Democratic Party even in 1964, why did a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress vote for the 1964 Civil Rights Act? The idea that Goldwater's vote on the 1964 Civil Rights Act trumps a century of history of the Republican Party is ridiculous, to say the least.

Every political party has its racists, but the notion that Republicans are more racist than Democrats or any other party is based on nothing more than a constant drumbeat of unsubstantiated innuendo and assertions by Leftists, constantly echoed by the liberal media. It is a classic example of a Big Lie that becomes "true" simply by virtue of being repeated so many times.

A more likely explanation for the long-term shift from Democratic to Republican dominance in the South was the perception, fair or not, that the Democratic Party had rejected traditional Christian religious values and embraced radical secularism. That includes its hardline support for abortion, its rejection of prayer in public schools, its promotion of the gay agenda, and many other issues.

In the 1960s the Democratic Party changed its strategy for dealing with African Americans. Thanks to earlier Republican initiatives on civil rights, blatant racial oppression was no longer a viable political option. Whereas before that time Southern Democrats had overtly and proudly segregated and terrorized blacks, the national Democratic Party decided instead to be more subtle and get them as dependent on government as possible. As LBJ so elegantly put it (in a famous moment of candor that was recorded for posterity), "I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." At the same time, the Democrats started a persistent campaign of lies and innuendo, falsely equating any opposition to their welfare state with racism.

From a purely cynical political perspective, the Democratic strategy of black dependence has been extremely effective. LBJ knew exactly what he was doing. African Americans routinely vote well over 90 percent Democratic for fear that Republicans will cut their government benefits and welfare programs. And what is the result? Before LBJ's Great Society welfare programs, the black illegitimacy rate was as low as 23 percent, but now it has more than tripled to 72 percent.

Most major American city governments have been run by liberal Democrats for decades, and most of those cities have large black sections that are essentially dysfunctional anarchies. Cities like Detroit are overrun by gangs and drug dealers, with burned out homes on every block in some areas. The land values are so low due to crime, blight, and lack of economic opportunity that condemned homes are not even worth rebuilding. Who wants to build a home in an urban war zone? Yet they keep electing liberal Democrats -- and blaming "racist" Republicans for their problems!

Washington DC is another city that has been dominated by liberal Democrats for decades. It spends more per capita on students than almost any other city in the world, yet it has some of the worst academic achievement anywhere and is a drug-infested hellhole. Barack Obama would not dream of sending his own precious daughters to the DC public schools, of course -- but he assures us that those schools are good enough for everyone else. In fact, Obama was instrumental in killing a popular and effective school voucher program in DC, effectively killing hopes for many poor black families trapped in those dysfunctional public schools. His allegiance to the teachers unions apparently trumps his concern for poor black families.

A strong argument could also be made that Democratic support for perpetual affirmative action is racist. It is, after all, the antithesis of Martin Luther King's dream of a color-blind society. Not only is it "reverse racism," but it is based on the premise that African Americans are incapable of competing in the free market on a level playing field. In other words, it is based on the notion of white supremacy, albeit "benevolent" white supremacy rather than the openly hostile white supremacy of the pre-1960s Democratic Party.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] -2 points ago +2 / -4

I know the history of the party. But I don't associate with the ignorance of the past. We've become a better country than we once were. We cannot be held accountable for the sins of our fathers.

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Click 7 points ago +7 / -0

Democrats are STILL the same evil party and they're even worse now. They've replaced the KKK with BLM and Antifa. They've destroyed once great cities all over America. They still have black people enslaved via welfare and mentally enslaved by brainwashing them into thinking Republicans are the racists and that only Democrats can save them. They're still mass murdering babies and started mass murdering the elderly as well (Democrats forced COVID positive patients into nursing homes). They want complete chaos and anarchy by defunding and abolishing the police. They've sold out our country to the highest bidder (China and Russia). They've infringed on and has been actively trying to destroy all of our rights and freedoms (free speech, right to bear arms, freedom of religion, etc.). They've imported tens of millions of illegal aliens for new votes and to destroy our morals, culture, and identity. They've divided America over and over. They've indoctrinated generations of children and made them into Marxist, communist, anti-Americans who want to completely destroy this country.

I could go on and on, but you get the point. It's not just the past, it's the present and future as well. The Democratic party will always be this way and keep getting worse. You've supported this evil party and your family is still supporting them. Again, glad you've walked away, but don't pretend like the Democrats' history of evil can be forgiven, washed away, and ignored.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'm saying look at the Democrat party of the 80s. That's the party I liked. Now I was only a young boy back then, so maybe I'm looking at them with rose colored sunglasses, but that was the DNC I though helped people the most. This was after the horrible racism in the party from the 60s, but before the socialist take over today.

I guess my point is that I'm defending liberalism more than the DNC. Liberals are good folk. We don't like racists. We don't like socialists. We disagree on policy, but still love this country. I love the constitution. The only thing is I disagree on policy implementation. We can get passed that.

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80960KA 7 points ago +7 / -0

Even before the woke pinko takeover Democrats were much more into the "racism of low expectations" than Republicans, but granted, welfare state pushers have low expectations of everyone.

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EpicPede 0 points ago +3 / -3

I've already got a gun in my pants before the doorbell rings.

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EpicPede 2 points ago +6 / -4

Based mom

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EpicPede 5 points ago +10 / -5

whites are the only group that vote for conservatives. every single other group votes overwhelmingly for liberals.

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Boogi2shoes 6 points ago +6 / -0

Lmao idk why you're downvoted for saying something that holds statistical, literal proof.

Reddit refugees i guess.

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EpicPede 0 points ago +4 / -4

its not ok to be white I guess?

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SendThemBackToCanada -1 points ago +1 / -2

Actually Trump lost a lot of the white vote. However, Trump is making gains on the minority vote (Minorities are still voting overwhelmingly Democrat). Trump is setting the foundation for the Republican Party to increasing their minority votes.

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SendThemBackToCanada -1 points ago +1 / -2

I didn't say he will lose the white vote. I say the percentage of white people voting for Trump has decreased. Trump will definitely win the white vote. The question is if Trump can takes votes from the Democrats (specifically the Latino, Asian, and Black votes). To ignore a demographic in your voting base is the worst plan you can have.

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Flipbarryfromreddit 5 points ago +6 / -1

Yep!!!! They think blacks are too stupid to know how to get ID’s!!!!!

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EpicPede -1 points ago +4 / -5

2005 wants its take back. They don't think that at all. They just know voter ID would crush them at the polls.

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leakmouth 4 points ago +4 / -0

Leftists today in a nutshell:

Two white guys arguing about how a black guy thinks

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MACHO.MAN.RANDY.SAVA 29 points ago +38 / -9

Blame whitey for everything.

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EpicPede 7 points ago +18 / -11

this should be the top comment. I'm really fucking tired of the anti white posts on this website.

I came here because it was the only place on the internet I had any hope of escaping the anti white mob....and STILL I see cringey posts like this blaming whitey for everything. It really has to end.

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

White liberals/leftists is who he is referring to, and they make all white people look bad.

I couldn't agree more.

I've lived in Portland. There's basically an angry minority of vocal white people who love Communism and Anarchy, and they're hijacking the BLM movement because they literally want to destroy the United States.

When other people complain, they scream "racist" to silence them. The only reason that this cop was able to say what he said is because he's black. If he was white, he'd be fired.

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EpicPede -6 points ago +7 / -13

not even. and it doesn't matter. don't be anti white, its gay.

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MageGills 11 points ago +15 / -4

Yeah it's obnoxious. And the "protesters are all white!" myth is annoying too. I watch these riots live every single night. I assure you, there's a proportionate amount of blacks causing destruction. Watch any streams from the eastern side of the country and it's probably 75% black. Go to voat.co if you really truly want escape the anti-white mob, but you won't get the same love for the president is bad thing.

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EpicPede 0 points ago +6 / -6

Anybody with eyes can see that the protestors are not mostly white!! it's not even close!

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MageGills 4 points ago +7 / -3

Yeah I know it. They've been pushing that since the riots started because, you know, you can't go and make blacks look bad in any way!

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EpicPede 1 point ago +7 / -6

its disgusting

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EpicPede 0 points ago +5 / -5

White Lives Matter

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Pure_Coincidence 6 points ago +6 / -0

You do understand that those at the helm of the left are almost all native whites, right? Democrats, RINOs, Hollywood producers, actors, MSM executives, MSM talking heads and writers, major corp executives, etc... Everyone fighting for open borders and making illegal firearms. The list goes on.

*squints at "Early Life" sections on Wikipedia*

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mintyfresh 0 points ago +1 / -1

If you'd seen the Portland streams the last 50-odd nights, you'd know what he's saying is true. The BLM people warm up the crowd, which then marches off led by the Antifa soibois and soigirls. A cop on the riot line isn't going to see the black faces. They've already done their work and gone home.

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EpicPede -3 points ago +2 / -5

I've watched all the streams and you are full of shit.

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mintyfresh 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'm sure you have. /s

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mintyfresh 0 points ago +1 / -1

Nice try. So, did you ever watch, or just whine that no one posted links for you here? You should quit while you're behind.

Protip: All you have to search for is "Portland Andy" or "Woke TV".

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EpicPede -3 points ago +2 / -5

get owned

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rentfREEEE_since2016 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yeah when I rewatch this I agree with you more

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learntocode 1 point ago +2 / -1

Brother man just listen to what he says. The guys is eyes wide open telling you the way forward. BLM is full of shit - he pretty much outlines what it has been like being attacked night after night in protests.

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hocuspocusfocusjeep 18 points ago +18 / -0

But I was told Antifa doesn't exist REEEEEE

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FuckReddit4545 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are organized and well funded. This myth that's it's just a movement needs to fuck right off and die.

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CommietownUSA 12 points ago +12 / -0

Antifa racist as fuck. Fucking commies.

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mintyfresh 4 points ago +4 / -0

👍 on both counts. 👌

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Gwoz8881 12 points ago +13 / -1

Antifa are racist toward every race. Including their own

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rentfREEEE_since2016 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nihilist tends to be that way

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PraiseBeToScience 12 points ago +12 / -0

"They don't even realize the tactics they're using are the same tactics used against my people."

For fucking real, this is why these Antifa terrorists are and have always been the actual 'fascist' threat. Have been all along. Everything was just one huge projection. In four years, "Orange Hitler" never became the tyrant they claimed, but in only four years, the left turned into a bunch of people literally hunting down people at home to terrorize them into compliance.

Waiting for the first time they set up a burning hammer and sickle in someone's yard.

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VetforTrump 9 points ago +10 / -1

And the protesters are all democrats. Dont forget that detail

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Dictator_Bob 9 points ago +9 / -0

There is memetic gold in here. I'm just in at 4 mins and it's like, wow -- people need to hear this.

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minotaurbeach 7 points ago +7 / -0

Democrats are still the biggest racists- and that is Joe's army

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tl3c0 7 points ago +7 / -0

Can’t upvote this video harder, watch the whole thing all 30 minutes. The questions are an perfect example of narrative setting by the media.

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Induceddrag 7 points ago +7 / -0

In 2016 I worked on the federal security piece of the Republican National Convention. The largest protest march was a BLM march. They only had 750 people, but they were non-violent, went on their march and were done.

On the other end of the spectrum were the anarchists who now make up Antifa. They were cacheing jars of piss and bags of poop to throw at people. The worst thing for civil order has letting the anarchist to rebrand themselves. The DNC and media support them with a constant stream of lies, calling them non-violent.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 3 points ago +5 / -2

Are you sure it's anarchists that make up antifa? I think they're actually socialists and outright communists.

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JackAttack1776 7 points ago +8 / -1

Moving interview that made me tear up. Anitfa is taping marbles and rocks to fireworks! Terrorists!

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Avenatti2020 6 points ago +7 / -1

Sent this to my pet liberal who insists antifa are a far right boogeyman. Can’t wait to harvest the tears.

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idonthaveahobby 3 points ago +3 / -0

Even the Antifa people themselves admit they were founded by communists (KDP) in Germany and are still communists. Here is a leftist source:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/antifascist-movements-hitler-nazis-kpd-spd-germany-cold-war

There are all kinds of pics on the web of the Antifa flag in 1930s Germany on the communist headquarters building and displayed at their conventions.

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rootGoose 2 points ago +2 / -0

Whenever I hear someone claim this I immediately think they are ANTIFA.

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Avenatti2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same. No serious person can argue antifa does not exist. It’s either willful ignorance or gaslighting. Usually I’ll ask why they don’t support Trump who is the only president to stand up to Chona who are running literal concentration camps and not calling out antifa aka brownshirts. It’s fun to draw the parallels to nazi behavior and ask why they support it.

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DoIMAGAYouHornyBaby 5 points ago +5 / -0

Dude is baaaaaased

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llamadoH 5 points ago +5 / -0

Omg. He has the nazi eagle patch on his chest! He's literally Hitler!

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ruskiebot00100011 5 points ago +5 / -0

THIS is where we should put our effort. Just as Communism and Fascism might have destroyed each other in wwii. Antifa and BLM can destroy each other.

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Spinnyd 4 points ago +4 / -0

They are also racist to Asian-Americans as well, they keep calling all of the men Andy because they think they are all Andy Ngo. Donut showed a video of them pissing of a guy who wasn’t Andy, and he said it happened all the time to him.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 0 points ago +3 / -3

Yeah, I know. A racist is going to be racist to everyone. Not that I needed any more encouragement to be against their racism, but as a father of biracial Japanese and white kids, I really don't need these douchebags slinging insults at my girls one day.

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Notablitheringidiot 1 point ago +2 / -1

A racist is going to be racist to everyone

Complete and utter bullshit.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] -1 points ago +2 / -3

A racist thinks he is better than other races because of his race. A racist considers either his race as superior to others or other races as inferior to his. So, please, elaborate your position.

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Notablitheringidiot 1 point ago +2 / -1

I’d cross the street to avoid a bunch of blacks where I wouldn’t for a bunch of Asians. That paint a clear enough picture?

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WalkedAway2018 [S] -1 points ago +2 / -3

So is that a class thing or a race thing? Let's say the black folk were wearing suits and were obviously heading to the office. And then later the asian folk you ran into were thugs and acting like assholes. Or let's say they were white instead of asian? But still just as thuggish.

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Notablitheringidiot 1 point ago +2 / -1

I’ve never been to Nigeria so I’ve never seen a bunch of black guys wearing suits heading to the office.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

I'm a cpa and there are a few black folk in my office. We tend to not segregate, but I imagine they've gone to lunch together with no white people at times. I doubt you'd be inclined to cross the street for my fellow pencil pushers.

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abbadon 4 points ago +4 / -0

When you're hanging out with your friend and he gets called an "uncle tom" by one of his family members for supporting Trump (while you're a guest at their house), yea I'm not surprised this officer has gone through this.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 2 points ago +4 / -2

The left brings up race all the time. The rest of us, liberals and conservatives, don't care about a person's exterior features. We care more about his character.

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eastern-truman 3 points ago +3 / -0

We have a phrase for this kind of people in my home country: "bandits crying theft"

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puppetmaster3 3 points ago +4 / -1

Capt. Obvious.

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rentfREEEE_since2016 3 points ago +3 / -0

jam that UPVOTE cause this guy is hella articulate and his voice needs to get out there.

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JohnyBlaze99 3 points ago +3 / -0

Had to share this one, so good!

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learntocode 3 points ago +3 / -0

This guy is 100% right on with what I have personally seen and experienced with the clueless mobs and gangsters out tearing our city apart night after night: they have no idea what they actually want beyond a slogan and behave in demonstrably net-negative ways that hurt the people they claim to be helping with their rioting.

So many rootless white kids sucked into the maelstrom of ignorance and raw emotion. It is pathetic and feels like another signal of the death of the nation.

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SharkTeamTrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

"The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man." - Malcolm X

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Cicero1990 2 points ago +2 / -0

Really need more of this. It needs to be stated that many of these activist push other opinions aside without a care to the fundamentals of the argument.

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Lastcall1224 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not a fan of pretending the majority of looters and rioters haven't been black this idea that they are all innocent is ridiculous should be targeting all blm not just the white tokens

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MakeAmericaVapeAgain 2 points ago +2 / -0

i clicked thinking i would see former infowars reporter jakhari jackson... this is still good though

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bananafone 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why doesn't reddit share stuff like this.

oh wait i know why

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SociallyConservative 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hard to watch with all the identity politics he’s been inundated with, but you can tell he realizes that cultural Marxism is a corrupt and failed ideology which is nice to hear

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HolyCow 1 point ago +1 / -0

White elitist liberals are pieces of dog shit and are the true racists! They think black Americans are all the same, helpless, stupid, and in need of their white virtue-signaling help. Jail white leftist liberals!

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Wizard_killer 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can tell he is on the verge of a red pill. He’s almost there.

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123breadman 3 points ago +3 / -0

Doubt it. He believes he's "doubling down on Biden to take down the progressive wing."

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RedDon 1 point ago +2 / -1

Why the hell does everyone always say “black folk?” I mean, think about it. Have you ever heard anything like “those chinese folk?”

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cbonez416 1 point ago +1 / -0

Democrats are racist!!!

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bigoof88 1 point ago +1 / -0

Liberals hate this man, because he's black and well spoken and a good guy

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Afeazo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Huh, It is almost strange to listen to a smart, well put together gentleman instead of the retards on news and social media who just have knee-jerk reactions.

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ZoomerCrusader 1 point ago +1 / -0

Does anyone really belive antifa are the "real racists"? You're playing right into the left's framework and accepting that racism exists and in fact is the ultimate evil.

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bixnood 1 point ago +2 / -1

And vast swaths of the rioters are blacks and the BLM movement. Don't let this bullshit narrative muddy the water. All you have to do is watch the videos and see that there are tons of blacks mixed in.

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IceManmdm 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never-mind FBI crime stats. Don't believe your lying eyes. The savage murder, assault, arson ad naseum committed by blacks is MAGA! At least you aren't racist.

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MAGA_Skull 1 point ago +3 / -2

whitey tha problem. ok. i get it.

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WalkedAway2018 [S] 0 points ago +3 / -3

No, racist lefty is the problem.