Too many “teachers” are like this right now.
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As a teacher in California, I'm only pissed.
Because NOT going back is about 5x MORE work for us.
Got to make up our own live online curriculum while dealing with a new curveball every week.
This year is going to suck. And kids are the biggest losers out of it.
FOR NO REASON
And you know it’s over the day after the election.
No it doesn't. If they successfully cheat and Biden "wins", there will no longer be a need for economy crashing flu hoaxes. They will immediately begin the gun grabbing.
I believe that's what they meant.
If Biden wins, this bullshit goes away.
If Trump wins, this hoax continues and is ramped up.
You're right. I read that wrong/
You never know, they might keep it going in the Biden Timeline anyway. It's a great excuse to shut down any gathering they don't want happening, and they get to select who is allowed back to work.
I'd just teach them the horrors of socialism. Fuck everything else.
The has been my first lesson going on 12 years now. Seriously.
Nice! Apocalypse Hitler is a great educational series about his rise to power from.before WW1-his suicide.
"Suicide"
Died peacefully in Argentina around 1980.
Those pics of his dead body are a fucking joke.
I teach as well and my entire department wants to work from home or quit. It sucks being the lone dissenter.
Someone in my building quit because of the remote learning bullshit still happening in the fall. She is under 40.
Spez: I’m out for the year on maternity leave and I might quit at the end of it anyway.
From a teacher friend. Kids don’t attend online school. If they do video is blocked and mic is muted. From admin, lowest grade given is C-, 70% with the understanding to next years teacher that equals an F. NM on report card for no work completed. Passes to the next grade. This is unsustainable.
Oh shit your district has no balls.
We gave NM instead of Fs, and P instead of D. So students didn't just get free credit
Just out of curiosity, what does that mean for the kids that actually earned their C? They'll just have to suck it up, or grade inflation?
And what does all this mean for the A and B students in these classes?
Grade inflation C=B, B=A. None of it is real.
And an honest A=A++ double good? ... Or is it just fuck those kids, no one cares about the smart ones so no grade inflation for them?
Mass hysteria created by a cabal of lifelong politicians and international banks because Trump won and cost them billions Hillary would've been worth by using the media to slander trump and terrify people over the flu. That's the reason.
Teachers don’t want to work then they don’t get paid
Unions... who's surprised?
Teachers are an obsolete profession that only wastes kids’s time. Massive online classes and minimum wage proctors are the future.
I disagree. Teachers are critical part of our society and child development. They are a part of the bigger picture. School environment instills values that are important. Learning from home is not the answer.
I want us back. It seems to be a big fear porn circle jerk about who cares about the children more. As a boots on the ground teacher, what pisses me off the most is the superintendent getting four times my pay is too much of a coward to declare we’re open.
This.
Everyone looks at teachers as the point of failure, but it's almost always administration and their policies that drive this foolishness.
In our case teachers must have parallel curriculum to run a 100% virtual section and two sets of two hybrid sections on opposite days. This is with little to no scheduled planning, an online platform that hasn't been opened to us (usually most of us would work over the summer to upload content, polish up course modules, learn new software), and a School Board that keeps moving the in person start date later and later. It's like everyone in management never taught successfully in the classroom...
The most aggravating part, though, is that no parents gave public comment in favor of opening in person at the last school board planning meeting. They can all talk fecal matter on Facebook, but refuse to show up when it matters.
In my state, they done fucked themselves. To the point where I almost feel bad for teachers, which I'm generally not inclined to do. They're actually being blamed here for a lot of the problems we face.
Like the whole "save the teachers" thing was the major line for the current Governor's campaign, even pulling such stupid crap as making a former teacher his running mate. They pushed this haaaard. And that's, straight up, how they won: for the teachers!...
Well, then the Governor shut everything down, closed the churches, and our state is going to go bankrupt. We're a red state, and the guy barely won: everyone is pissed. Which might have been just pushed off on the Democrats in general...
Until the schools shut down. Now, all the parents have actually seen what is being taught in a given day. Worse: because it's no longer the pre-DoE days, the parents knew this already, deep down, as they experienced it themselves. To say the parents around me are generally unimpressed with teaching right now is the biggest understatement I can imagine.
Once you put it all together... Boy, I really don't envy their position here politically over the next few years.
That cartoonist likes tits!
Doesn't everyone?
Even if there are a couple that don't, I think I like 'em enough for at least two people so it'll average out that way.
Not Him!
Was expecting B. Hussein. Still got a chuckle out of me though.
I think you're being incredibly bigoted in your assumptions right now. Those could be very brave and stunning men or even xirs.
Like the trap that was stickied and upvoted hours ago.
And?
Most people think all teachers are union. Not true at all. Lots of conservative and non-union teachers also who fight on the front lines everday trying to fend off the liberal lies that come down the pike so students can have a chance at being something other than a programmed liberal drone.
School vouchers so parents can pick and good teachers have a chance to break away from the liberal bureaucracy.
They're in a bit of a pickle though ain't they. They more or less have to teach to the state curriculum and by the very definition of their conservative nature, they won't interefere in a child's psychological development.
I have made that point as well. Grocery, big box, pharmacy, etc. workers (store level and warehouse/transportation) have interacted with tens of thousands of people and each other for months and while some have gotten sick it is in no way a huge number. Yet, teachers are too scared to go to schools that are much more controlled than any store.
I came here for this comment.
Wal-Mart, Target, the grocery chains, the pharmacy chains, the minute mart chains and their healthcare insurers are sitting on some enormously important information about the spread of this disease. If there was any competence at the CDC this would already have been studied and reported on.
And further, kids don’t seem to get and spread this disease, from what I’ve seen.
They do not. In my state, the People's Republic of California, there have been 0 child deaths. Not a single one.
It is dangerous being around all those kids, and I'm not talking about covid. The teachers don't want to go back to in class teaching because they don't have to discipline everyone's shitty, disrespectful, violent children anymore or risk losing their job when some punk punches them in the face over a bad grade.
Teachers: we would do anything for these kids
Also teachers: but not that.
My mother is a teacher at a private school and she works year round 10 to 12 hour days. She’s Ivy League educated and they don’t pay her 1/3 of the time she puts into the job. She’s not part of a union. She works her ass off and loves her kids but they just don’t pay her enough and don’t even come close to covering how much time she puts into her lesson planning. Not all teachers are the same or are in a comfy public school job.
Honestly, the only place where teachers make great pay is where they have strong unions, and that's just a fact. New York is another example.
Starting salary for teachers in Chicago is a shade under 59k. 95k is after 20 years of teaching-- not sure why everyone thinks teachers make "bank". They don't. And the benefits are great if you're single- once you add family members it is as expensive as insurance gets.
Starting salary in Texas is 50k plus depending on the district and the salaries don't rise very much- a few hundred bucks a year. The teacher's unions in Texas are in name only and it's fairly easy to fire teachers.
Teachers don't get the whole Summer off-- there are in-services and continuing education that are mandatory. Some of those in-services are 3 weeks long- 8am-5pm. They're often unpaid or a small stipend is given.
And as I always ask, "if teaching pays so great and it's so easy, why doesn't everyone do it?"
This. And given that public school teachers make almost 15k/yr more than private school teachers, their "value" is artificially inflated simply due to the fact that they are paid by the government.
This idiot that replied to you thinks that Scot Peterson, the deputy at Parkland who hid while Nickolas Cruz shot up the school, did nothing wrong, that he was too old and ill equipped to engage a school shooter. I'd advise you to hit block and save yourself the time.
Substitute teaching was a joke for teachers in my area, all because they offered qualified teachers almost no additional pay over non-qualified individuals when it came to the job, and you also had such little authority or respect as compared to a full-time teacher. As a student I loved most of our substitutes, but they certainly weren't treated well enough.
I'm a grocery store worker and this shit makes my blood boil. When these leftists say shut down the country they are not talking about me. It's fine for me to be in "danger" so they can stock up on canned goods. If we can sanitize and clean everything nonstop so you can get groceries, teachers can do the same to educate our children.
This whole lockdown we've been crazy busy plus dealing with more Karen's than ever....but ya we should def stay this way forever reeeee
Remember the left thinks were "hero's". Fuck you go to work. I don't want to be your stupid fake "hero".
Exactly. If I can work the whole time with how many strangers every day and not die then they'll be even safer working with the same kids every day. But no they wanna be a "hero" and have a paid vacation.
No teacher I know (and I know many) wants to teach from home. It's a lot more work and doesn't work for the kids anyway.
Just pass a law stating that if they don't show up they don't get paid. That will solve the problem real quick.
My teacher wife's Facebook feed is full of cunt teachers that post shit exclaiming how dangerous it is for them to work. Then hours later posting pictures of themselves at a restaurant with friends or their kids baseball games.
Can any teacher or administrator explain what their return is contingent upon?
No, the states all have different criteria that are set by the state Departments of Education and the state and local Health Departments.
What we have are dates that students are supposed to have some form on in person instruction and then a litany of conditions in which the school will be shut for 14 days, more than 14 days, or conversion to 100% virtual.
If your governor does not want schools to open, the schools will not open.
In CA, Newsolini just released a 100-point plan to reopen schools but possibly also close them on a whim and then maybe partly reopen them again if you have 6 negative tests in a row divided by the square root of 18, and if your county manages to make it off his "watch-list" (i.e., he owns a winery in the county) then you can possibly send students back 2 or 3 days a week if the total number of days they come back is divisible by 5 and if the students are each put in a padded room and not allowed to touch or look at each other.
The biggest problem for teachers are the hodgepodge rules they now have to work around and with. It was bad enough trying to control an entire classroom before, but now they have to also police distancing and face masks, among other new criteria? Nevermind the altered learning plans, and more parents and administrators breathing down their necks.
I would be sympathetic if those were there reasons. Every teacher I see posting on Facebook is convinced they're going to die if they go back to school. It seems mostly self-centered.
Psst...those grocery store workers? they're the kids ...
Most are older adults where I live
I work in the grocery industry and this "pandemic" has been exhausting. All people fucking do anymore is grocery shop, every day. It's like they have nothing else to do, so they just go shopping just for a rush or something. As if I needed more of an excuse to hate the public. I fucking wish I'd get COVID just so I could take a break from this shit.
It's bullshit I'm getting paid less money to work harder than I did pre Covid compared to these lazy retards who get a vacation.
Not true. I cant wait to teach again. A NORMAL ROUTINE AGAIN. You know who is stopping this? The UNION and the Governer. Our school district is starting a month late... if at all. At this rate my students will have lost so much time. Not to mention re teaching what wasn't covered and what they missed last spring.
Well, most certainly don't take the job for the pay, so I'd be surprised at many teachers never wanting to work.
My disabled son works as a bagger in a grocery store. He can hardly walk, but he never misses his shift. He's my hero.
That's awesome!
As a grocery store worker I can confirm.
My old saying "Those who can't work, teach!" Had lots of "professors" in college who had never worked a real day in their life, and when I worked at the local school district, anyone who was not a teacher who made the schools operational was looked on as second class.
I really hope charter schools become more of a thing. Or even private schools, if they're more affordable. If I have kids, I will not send them to a public school.
All trump supporting teachers should gonform charter schools. Make sure you never hire a liberal teacher. Name the schools after trump and they wont even apply.
I thought masks work? Why would they be worried?
Thousands of customers, with their kids.
Hmm never thought id want to fuck a cartoon
Yep, it's a fkn disgrace.
Its really simple. Stop paying teachers that arent working. They will change their mind really quickly.
Right now they can collect their regular paycheck, and do nothing? Of course they are going to choose that. Hell I would choose that.
It's Time to Disrupt the educational establishment from the ground up from daycare through College...
What if Teachers could set up there own classes and mini schools with apps/software package that coordinated an entire education ecology from student transportation to providing classroom space, meals, housing and space for social events... Proctored exams could be used to independantly demonstrate the veracity of the education provided and teachers would be rated and could price thier classes based on their perfomrmence. Superior teachers could thus earn superior compensation.
I work at Walmart and I find this pretty funny
There has not been one cv19 death of a person under the age of 18 is the state of California and those states that have had a child pass, it's always one who had other terminal illnesses
Edit: I want to be 100% open in September and most common sense teachers I know agree. Its only the far left libs who are freaking out.
A lot of ignorance about teachers here. I love you guys and will be 100% voting Trump, but the venom so many of you spit at all teachers is ridiculous. Remember, some of us conservatives are still in education trying to fight the good fight for your sake. Keep attacking teachers and we will quit...which will only leave the Dems to teach the kids.
"TEACHERS GET PAID SUMMERS OFF" - nah. We get our 50k salary for the 9 months we work. We have the option of spreading it out over 12 months so we don't have to go without a paycheck during the summer.
"TEACHERS GET TOO MUCH TIME OFF DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR TOO!" - we get winter and spring break, yes. But we don't get to choose when those are. And we only get 2 "PTO" days a year, which we can bank to a maximum of 5. So, if we want a school-year vacation with our own families, we either need to travel during the peak periods or save up vacation days for 3 years.
"TEACHERS DON'T WORK DURING ONLINE LEARNING, SO DON'T PAY THEM!" - fuck off. All the teachers I know put in more fucking work during online teaching than during the normal year. Answering constant "i can't log on" or "i don't get it" emails, dealing with bitchy parents who take their frustration out on teachers, dealing with kids who never log on or do the work, all while trying to create lessons that teach the curriculum without us being physically there to help. We were recording videos, creating presentations, building quizzes, setting aside time to video chat...it sucked. But it was hard fucking work you ungrateful shit.
"TEACHERS GET CUSHY BENEFITS!" - we get basic health insurance plans that we put a portion of our paychecks toward while our district matches a portion. I've got a high deductible plan with an HSA and my district puts about $750 a year into my HSA. The rest I put in. We also get 1 paid for dental visit per year. My wife's private plan is way better. Pension? Paid for out of pocket, with a partial district match. 403b retirement? Paid for out of pocket and district won't match more than $1000 per year. Is it awful? No. But its not some ritzy "Senate Health and Retirement" plan like some of you seem to think.
"TEACHING IS THE EASIEST THING AND YOU DON'T NEED ANY SKILL" - our teachers are literally getting punched and kicked by violent students, and even the "good kids" will refuse to listen and talk back. If you try to discipline you get parents screaming at you, you get your principals throwing you under the bus, the kids are back in the classroom with candy and a stupid grin on their face, and you get scolded later. Oh, and if the kid is black or brown? You get investigated for racism now. Even if the kid was being an absolute terror.
All the while, we have to try and take a liberal state curriculum and try to teach it while not going against our own morals and ethics. We don't like shitty Common Core math, but we could lose our jobs if we don't teach it.
"TEACHERS UNIONS!!!" - just stop you ignorant fool. Here's how the union works. They take $100 a month as their 'dues' and then use that money to lobby for whatever THEY support. I could choose not to pay my dues, but if I do, then they will not support me should my job be threatened. I could be fired for:
Not teaching the liberal curriculum with 100% fidelity Not agreeing with liberal behavior policies Not signing a "black lives matter" pledge Any student falsely accusing me of hitting them Any parent falsely accusing me of abuse Anyone accusing me of racism Speaking up about issues I think are facing our schools ...and basically any other reason someone would want me gone.
The union provides representation at hearings and can threaten walks outs if they believe an injustice is happening. They encourage the district to come up with "improvement plans" for teachers who violate policies. That's what they are good for. They don't and can't protect "shitty teachers" because generally those teachers have a laundry list of complaints over the last few years.
I understand that posting this will likely cause me be down voted into oblivion. Some of you are VERY passionate in your hatred of teachers. But if I can get even one of you to read this and go "huh, I never thought of it that way" then it was worth the time to write this.
Remember, hardworking teachers exist. Conservative teachers exist. When you bash all teachers, you are also bashing us. You don't want us to leave, because then only the shitty SJW liberal teachers will be left.
What's the benefit of going back to school right now?
I know that some parents can't WFH, so need kids to go back to school for daycare essentially.
I know that some kids don't learn as well remotely, so being in-person helps.
But otherwise, I don't see the harm in keeping school remote for a while longer.
My primary argument against "hybrid" or "all online" learning options:
Young kids don't learn well remotely. Young kids will just end up going to daycare, so they won't be "safer away from school" Elementary plans should be different from Mid/High plans.
Doing remote learning now will be more difficult than in the Spring because teachers won't have a chance to build community with their kids. Why would any average student want to "perform" remotely for a teacher who is basically a stranger to them?
We should start fully in-person so we can build that community together and take stress off of parents.
Thank you for writing this. I am also a teacher, and I have said the same thing about a thousand times.
I'm confused. This is what I am living right now. How is my experience showing a lack of independent thought?
My guess? You had a bad experience during your school years, saw this was a "positive" post about teaching, and decided not to read it.
Bullshit!
Constructive comment. What part was bullshit to you?
If teachers do not go back replace them with what is available for online at home teaching. They shouldn't get paid if they arent doing their job. They act like they're god damn heroes that deserve raises every year and when they have a chance to proove it they fold like lawn chairs.
Defund Education, privatize schools! Teachers are holding our kids hostage just like terrorists. All Teachers Suck!