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Yea, it’s a big sacrifice and I hate seeing people act like LEOs are just hunting black men. I have a family member that became a state trooper and only lasted less than a year because of the ptsd he suffered on a few calls. He said he had two calls that involved neglected/starved dead infants (drug addict parents that essentially got so high they forgot they had kids) and he hasn’t been able to get over what he saw.
Sorry you had to see that. You didn’t make a poor choice, you tried to make a difference and were subject to the depravity of human beings. The fact you tried makes you a stronger person than 99% of the population.
This is what they want you to believe every police encounter is like for black men (except they were driving under the speed limit and the cop planted the weed lol). If every cop was this intimidating every time someone gave them shit, all those disgruntled inner city future college graduates would straighten up real fast.
Not a fan of Cops. Also not an asshole to them. I treat them with respect, and I expect the same from them. This guy, who got pulled over, is just a fucktard.
Imagine having actual criminals to catch, and along comes some fucking idiot acting like a fucking idiot just to be a fucking idiot on purpose, and now you have to arrest him for weed which you really dont give a shit about whether he smokes or not. Now imagine that every day for 20 years
Sounds like the officer should not just be an order follower. Downvote me away, but the police are not on our side. You're kidding yourself if you think so.
I'm not a cop, never been a cop, and grew up on the other side of the law (see username).
I often thought the same as you; "good cops should disobey bad orders".
But here's the thing: they have to be loyal to the chain of command, and their loyalty has to be on display.
My thinking here is that is an esoteric part of the reason for the existence of some of the more asinine laws. Also why departments have unwritten quotas.
If officer X is failing to write up certain mundane violations, it raises a red flag with his superiors who ask "what else is he failing to enforce"?
It's like the stories about rock stars who make bizarre demands in their contracts. If the venue doesn't provide a bowl of all brown m&ms, what else is missing?
I'm with you, I hate the anti-cop sentiment (and yes, understand plenty of them suck and deserve it). I've honestly had more encounters than I'd like to admit with police, and have always had nothing but respect for them. I (almost) always gave them respect, and all times except 2 they were nicer to me than they should have been (and 1 of those 2 times, I deserved I beat down). In fact, to this day I firmly believe a group of them saved my life, and I'd like to find and thank 1 particular officer, and 2 particular detectives if I could.
This might get semi-long, but in my late teens and early twenties, I made some poor choices and was a heroin addict for about 4 years. I've been clean close to a decade now, but during those 4 years I had a number of encounters (and arrests) with them. I was always polite (even when I knew I was screwed), and it always helped me out in the end. The funny thing is, the only time I got treated like shit, was fairly recently, and I was doing nothing wrong (not even speeding, as he alleged), and the treatment I got was incredible until I politely informed him I was going to begin recording the encounter on my phone.
But, while most encounters went as I'd have expected, I had more that stood out as dealing with exceptional officers who wanted to help, and I know it was only because I was particularly respectful, friendly, and did what they asked.
The reason I say they saved my life, is because a group of them, across two districts, genuinely went out of their way for me... for no reason, when they didn't have to. I'll try and give the story as quickly as possible:
My drug use had finally come to a breaking point, and I was finally ready to get help and stop. Finding a rehab/empty bed was literally near-impossible. My parents wouldn't even answer my phone calls at this point, and so I found a friend (who was using, but also helping me stay clean, as weird as that sounds) who let me stay over until I found somewhere to go. After about 3 days, I finally found somewhere. It was a Friday, and they could take me on Sunday. On Friday, my friend had to go to work, so he arranged for me to stay with his brother/at his house for the day.
I get to his brother's house, and we're basically just hanging out, I'm calling the rehab to find out more info, what I should bring, etc, and in between all this, I'm going outside for an occasional cigarette. During one of those smokes, a cop drives by. Then, he drives by again, and waits at the stop sign at the corner. "weird," I start thinking. I see him start to turn onto the street again, so I start trying to casually make my way inside. He goes past the house, and is at the stop sign again, so I think I'm good. As I'm opening the door to go inside, he backs up, and rolls down his window to get my attention.
"You live here?" he asked.
"no, it's my friends house," I reply, as he makes his way outside and asks if something is wrong.
"nothing wrong, we've just had a number of break-ins in the neighborhood over the past few days and just wanted to make sure you live here. You mind if I see your ID's?" The officer asked, claiming he just wanted to make sure we belonged to the house, essentially. I didn't know I had a warrant out, and hadn't been arrested or anything recently, so I thought I was in the clear. But I also always knew something like this could happen w/ any interaction with L.E. I told my friend quietly "I might get cuffed, not really sure if I have any warrants."
"Mr. ___[my last name]....."
"fuck, see ya later, man," I say to my friend's brother, before responding back to the officer.
Long story short, he informs me about my warrant, I sigh and basically just follow his orders as he searches and arrests me. It's about 2:30/3pm on Friday, and I'm in the back of the cruiser now. We get to talking, and he tells me "your warrant's from [town about 40 minutes away], so I hate to break it to you, but you're probably going to spend the weekend in the state prison before you get to see a judge."
My heart starts racing. If I don't get to this rehab on Sunday, there goes my only chance for recovery. Long story short, I explain all this to the officer, tell him all the shit I've been going through, that I understand he has no control over this, but I am genuinely trying to finally get help, and won't be able to if I have to stay in prison until Monday. He radio's in to the station to tell them about the situation, puts the lights on, and starts speeding incredibly fast. The station is ready for me, they don't even strip me or put me in a holding cell at any point -- they literally just book me while I'm sitting at the officer's desk (I even help them when they say to each other "what district is [city where I am to be transferred] in, again?" and they laugh when I answer and say "sounds like you've been through this before, huh?"]. They also call this district to let them know about the transfer, to make it a speedy one, and try as hard as they can to get my to the judge before 5 when he leaves.
Thankfully, I'm being transferred to a town where the courthouse is. They literally managed to make this all happen in about 2 hours, and get me in front of the judge at about 4:55, right before he left. I got to explain my story to the judge, and he essentially keeps everything in pretrial, contingent upon how I do in rehab.
These cops, and this judge, saved my life. I'd love to find who they were and thank them, especially with everything going on today. They didn't have to go out of their way like this, but they really went out of their way. And not just out of their way, but were incredibly nice, helped kept my spirits up while I was sick, semi-panicking, etc. They deal with shit far worse every single day, and to them, who cares if another junkie had to stay a weekend in the prison? But they helped, and without them, I'd have lost my bed at rehab, and who knows where I'd be, if even alive, today, and without them.
I've got another 2 remarkable encounters with really great officers, about 5 unremarkable encounters with expected behaviors, and 1 where the cop was a complete power-hungry asshole to me for no reason whatsoever. Overall, I'll still always give respect, and if they don't give it back, at least I know I wasn't the one in the wrong.
They didn't have to go out of their way like this, but they really went out of their way. And not just out of their way, but were incredibly nice, helped kept my spirits up while I was sick, semi-panicking, etc.
But they helped, and without them, I'd have lost my bed at rehab, and who knows where I'd be, if even alive, today, and without them.
Of course! Too many stories and experiences, good and bad, I could share from this time in my life, but I know many of them can be helpful to others, offer insight into various topics/issues, etc, so I generally share them anytime I think it could be insightful/beneficial and appropriate. I'm generally about as transparent about it in real life, too, for similar reasosns -- and not just when I'm anonymous and online -- to help others, help kind of de-stigmatize addiction (to anything, not just alcohol+substances)/substance-use/recovery
I'm very transparent about my past and talk of my experiences fairly often (when appropriate/called for, obviously). I do my best to ensure it doesn't come across as attention-seeking or looking for praise, and genuinely just tell them either as a kind of way to offer hope to others who might be facing similar struggles, or in instances like this (where it may speak to a related topic, like cops, the criminal justice system, etc). And to be clear, while I had many positive encounters with particular officers, judges, etc, I do also know from experience that our system has a lot of issues, which is why I went back to school to research and work in field related to addiction and drug policy/criminal justice reform. A lot of times, people are often harmed just as much by the system, for various reasons, as they are by the actual substance abuse (not to absolve anyone of personal accountability, either -- just a note on how much work there is to be done to create a system that actually helps rather than further harming)
Mega props on staying sober man, that's remarkable.
How long did it take for you to really feel like you got yourself back? Your true "wake up and hit goals hard" self? I hear the pull is always there on some level after it's been felt and most former junkies have to decide it's forever an enemy they'll be at war with despite the calls to seduce them when it creeps back up.
Most people don't realize the fallout of personal mojo and post acutes people deal with afterwards. Got a friend who is 10 years clean with a family and a medical career now after battling it. Guy can't speak openly about it at all without fear of losing his career path. Hard to get him to talk about it with me even.
The mental balance must be a really fine line to hold. Props for the long march man
Much appreciated. And yeah it’s a weird thing, tough to answer really. I went to a completely different state (and stayed there), was in a sober house for a total of (the first) 6 months, and stayed in their aftercare program with the same place for another 6 months (mainly would just piss test me weekly and do counseling). I had been to detox before this multiple times and it would always feel like time dragged on forever, and I couldn’t get my mind of drugs. But this time something was really different and my mind was really set on getting clean
My first month there was the hardest. I missed my family, my friends (the ones who didn’t use), I couldn’t sleep more than an hour a night at best, and I wanted drugs to help with that. What really kept me through was the kind of camaraderie at this particular house - it was more like a sober frat house. And around that one month mark, they held a “graduation,” for all the people that had been there a while: anywhere from 6 months to a year, and it really showed me it could be done, and that I wanted that. For what felt like the first time in forever, I set a positive goal: I was going to see this through, graduate from this place, stay clean and help others.
At about 2 or 3 months I hit what they call the “pink cloud,” and felt really great. I was going to the gym daily, had been moved to the next phase in the house (new house with more freedom/less oversight), found a job, and got approved to go visit my parents back home for 2 days, and come back with my car. By about month 6 I honestly felt pretty close to normal, but not fully. I’d just graduated, and moved in with two of the residents who’d graduated months before me and I knew could help hold me accountable with my new freedoms. I also kept that same job for about 5 years which helped regain some normalcy. I’d say I was about as close as I could get to my old self around the year mark. Just after that mark, I’d been working a while, living on my own, just met my (now) fiancée, and enrolled back in school,
But it’s all still a part of me, and I guess always will be. My mom still will occasionally break down in tears sometimes if it’s brought up or something reminds her of when I was using. All this time, she’s still terrified about “getting that phone call,” and I think that’s what sticks with me the most. And while I do think about using occasionally, it’s really rare now. I have dreams where I’m about to, and they’re so realistic, and I always wake up in a sweat right before I’m about to use, it’s weird. I’m reminded of my use less by my own mind or behaviors, and more when I learn that another friend (usually from this house, sometimes from when I was using) has OD’d and died. I know probably close to 30 or 40 people that have now passed, some were good friends.
Today, most of my issues are just regular, every day issues, and it helps having my fiancée. She’s in recovery too, but never really was addicted like I was and she seemed to more have gotten dragged into it by her ex. She helps kind of keep me on the level and would know immediately if I ever slipped which is good. So yeah, I’m in a good place now where I don’t think about it much, but I do have to stay constantly vigilant — I’ll forever consider myself an addict and know that one fuck up is all it takes; I’ve been to enough funerals to know that, unfortunately.
And yea I totally get where your friend’s coming from. I’m not like that at all — some are, some aren’t. I’ve done a lot of interviews with former addicts for my research and it’s always interesting to hear whether they’re transparent about it or not. Many are like me with no shame, others view it as part of a past that they’re no longer a part of, don’t care to talk about, and don’t want (or can’t have) anyone knowing about.
No one here worships cops, we just understand the insanity of their job and hate the spineless little faggots who think it's cute to fuck with them. If it takes an "abuse of power" to put one of those pussies in their place, I'll fucking take it. The last month has shown us what the alternative is.
They usually just wait for any reason for you to say the wrong thing to trigger them.
Yup, rolled through a stop sign once and my immediate reply was, "Sorry I shouldn't have done that."
They turned into this guy ranting and raving about how I'm going to kill all the todlers in the area by rolling at 1mph through a stop.
Since he was being a dick I turned into a dick;' when he asked what I would have done if there were kids at the intersection what I would have done and said, "well, if there were actually people, cars, or anything here I would have stopped."
And that stupid fucking big-mouthed pothead was likely only the average douchebag that cops have to deal with on the daily .. imagine the real fucktards, even lower on the douche rung than this asshole.
A cousin and an uncle are cops. It's a hard fucking job. In my personal experience, you get what you give. When I was a belligerent youth, I mouthed off to a cop and got myself cuffed and put in a cruiser. Now I treat cops as I would anyone - with courtesy and respect - and they tend to respond in kind. I've gotten warnings for little things (expired registration, etc), that likely would have been tickets had I been a dick to them.
What is lost in this video is after being an asshole the driver figured out it was best to chill out and be respectful of the officer. Ultimately he was left to go about his day even though he originally did something wrong. This is something the black community has to figure out, Don’t act like an angry douchebag when you get pulled over and you’ll be surprised how often 2 human beings will be able to work through a potentially stressful situation and move on with their lives.
Respect to the Trooper. You enjoy your next 14 months of no interactions with morons like that. Have a drink on a beach after your retirement too, good sir.
To me, jail sheriff, city or county cop deserve most respect.
I don't ever like highway patrol or state trooper. They don't answer most calls for service, very ticket heavy (prob quota to measure their productivity since they dont answer call for service.)
The guy was a douche to cop but the cop is also a douche himself. 2 wrongs dont make a right. CT state trooper seems like he got power ego problem.
Tldr for rant below: highway cops are sometimes literally highway robber.
I'm a traffic engineer working for the state and a damn highway patrol sneaking behind the woods pulling me over for doing "dangerous speed" on a country road with no speed limit. I was doing 55 ish and totally safe based on sight distance, glare angle, crash history, volume (aadt) etc. He said I was doing 75!! Based on the angle he shot lidar he could not possibly accurately measure me either (traffic engineer uses the same lidar as cop). In the end I did a whole engineering TIA analysis on that road and assigned it a speed limit of 65 before the court date. The cop didn't need to be there for any reason (no crash past 5 year, extremely low AADT remote road, good pavement condition etc) but to catch up on his quota.
On court date, I told the DA what I do for a living and that I would be requesting jury trial and he dropped my ticket on the spot.
Wait, did the cop pull him over simply for flipping him off?
If that’s the case here, then am I the only one that has a problem with that?
While flipping off a cop is vile and something I’d personally never do, isn’t that still freedom of speech? Defending freedom of speech means standing up for even the speech you fundamentally disagree with.
ya, I from that area of CT - it looks like a "fast interstate" but the speed limit is shit, it is also a slalom course through there with exits both sides of the highway, quarter or less mile apart with merging traffic. goddamn cluster fuck on the best of days. after 8 pm its fine to burn through there fast, but goddamn 3pm till around 6... you'r fucked
Remember never to provide police officers with admissions against your interest, such as telling them you know why they pulled you over or telling them how fast you were going. These types of statements are an exception to the general rule that hearsay is inadmissible, so admitting your guilt can be used against you in court. Good answers to "Do you know why I pulled you over" are "I'm not sure, officer." "Do you know how fast you were going?" "I was watching out for traffic, I wasn't looking down at my speedometer."
At least where I live, cussing someone out is actually against the law. Curse and Abuse. VA 18.2-416. Since sign language is language, I’d imagine flipping them off falls under this.
I had the same question. Who hasn’t been flipped off driving down a highway?
Sure it might get ya worked up, but acting like a toddler, pulling someone over, handcuffing them, and then letting them go just to prove a point just makes this cop look petty.
That was the most human I've ever seen a cop in my life.
My wife and I decided to have a little fun tonight and listen to the police scanner while we were driving home. We heard a code 3 from dispatch (dude with a knife) and we both got excited, then we realized that this is somebodies job to deal with this shit, every day of their life. Every day a different scenario, always dangerous.
You can’t pull someone over for flipping the bird, the Supreme Court literally ruled on a very similar case a few years ago.
All the evidence the police officer found will be null and void, and the case will be thrown out. Additionally, the man could probably sue the police department.
Why are we advocating for bad police work? The law is the law and cops going against it even if it makes cops look bad ass shouldn’t be celebrated.
He pulled him over for speeding. Guy admitted he was going 60 in a 40. Officer knows this because he was speeding while trying to catch another speeder. Guy flicks off officer which caught the officers attention. That was what he meant by don't be a heatseeker.
Why? Because he’s reached the limit of his patience? Because he is tired of suffering insults day after day for doing his job protecting the community and keeping order? I don’t think he sucks at all. Certainly what he did wasn’t textbook...he lost his cool and will likely face some punishment. I understand why on both counts.
Dude cops can’t lose their cool. If you are susceptible to that you can’t be an officer. This is unnacceptable and unprofessional and he looks like a whiny bitch.
There is no human being who doesn’t have a breaking point. You want to hire a police force of Buddhist monks? There aren’t enough. He didn’t beat the guy up. He didn’t shoot anyone. He yelled at the guy. Maybe don’t go flipping people off, especially when you’re only doing it because you are sure they can’t do anything about it. That’s the real bitch move.
I cannot get my head around why people feel like the cops should be nice to them when they, themselves, act like dicks. It’s the most hypocritical, whiny thing to me. The guy flipped the cop off. If I flipped someone off—judge, cop, local drunk at 7-Eleven—I’d expect to be treated in kind.
So that's what your going act the next time you get shown the bird? Your going to run the person down ransack the car and scream at the top of your lungs? I doubt it.
It’s called a safety retirement. You make cops chase duche bags until they’re 65-70, they’d never live to see retirement. They pay more into the retirement system as a result. Government employees, especially those on a local level, usually have to pay to receive their pensions. Sometimes 10-25% of their pay goes into the pension fund, which is usually funded by stocks. The % is usually based on when they were hired and if the system is tiered, usually fewer retirement benefits to new hires than people hired 30 years ago. There are investment groups constantly pitching various investment options to retirement boards.
That's not uncommon. If he joined the force early in life he could easily be pushing 25-30 years of service. Even if he joined at 25, he'd be retiring between 50-55 years old.
Sure is nice working on the taxpayer dime. Big salaries, retire early, get a lifelong pension that literally no one in the private sector gets. I know people who work for school districts and they do easy jobs that get paid more than I ever have....and they only work 10 months out of the year!
lol, fireman. They stand outside and shoot water at buildings and make 200k a year for it off of outrageous overtime pay while spending 99% of their time doing nothing. And then one year before they retire at 50, their buddies promote them because their pension is based on their salary the last year they worked. Nothing but taxpayer leeches. And they'll laugh and joke about it like it's funny how good they have it.
Police deserve respect but I have zero respect for firemen unless they're forest firemen battling raging infernos or skyscraper firemen. Your average suburban fireman is a total joke.
i'm not going to let this sub forget the 3 months of mothers arrested at swingsets, joggers chased on beaches, people arrested for paddleboarding, and other shit indicating that when they're turned against us they fucking snap to and soldier up.
I recommend everyone keeps that in the back of their minds.
Not all cops are the same. Not all cops enforced that bullshit. Not all states had the same EOs. This is a single human being who is frustrated because he has been shit on extra hard lately for doing his job and some asshole moron who was in the act of violating the law also decided to flip him off.
He also let the guy off and sent him on his way. I think we can use some context here and say was this appropriate from a professionalism perspective? No, but was it understandable from a human perspective? Sure. I found it satisfying because that dude probably shat his pants and deserved it.
"Is it in the original dispensary container? Then you're fucked!!"
This is the funniest video I've seen in a long time.
MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS NEXT TIME!
More people need to be told this.
No way! “Are you late for your job at NASA?” had me dying 🤣
IT’S CALLED SHUT THE FUCK UP!
You missed the best one, pede!
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU LATE FOR YOUR JOB AT NASA
Yea, it’s a big sacrifice and I hate seeing people act like LEOs are just hunting black men. I have a family member that became a state trooper and only lasted less than a year because of the ptsd he suffered on a few calls. He said he had two calls that involved neglected/starved dead infants (drug addict parents that essentially got so high they forgot they had kids) and he hasn’t been able to get over what he saw.
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Sorry you had to see that. You didn’t make a poor choice, you tried to make a difference and were subject to the depravity of human beings. The fact you tried makes you a stronger person than 99% of the population.
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How do you avoid pulling a Rorschach on people like that?
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Who the fuck microwaves a baby?
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do you happen to know what happend to them? did they get charged with something serious (murder?) and are serving time?
This was every teacher I had in high school. And no one cared! How times have changed!
I had Mr. Freeman for Math in the 6th grade. If you couldn't keep your mouth shut during class, you had to be damn good at dodging erasers.
Had a 6th grade teacher throw an overhead projector at a kid. Teachers would move you where they wanted you, desk and all. Basically throw you.
I saw this once. Mouthy kid got his desk picked up and thrown. With the kid still in it! It was glorious!
I remember a teacher picking up a mouthy kid's desk off the ground and slamming it down.
Totally forgot about that until this comment.
Mr Mosby 8th grade science would reach into the visable Body on his desk grab a heart or lung and throw it at you.
That was delicious.
Angry black men, pay attention.
The stupid angry white guy realizes he’s wrong and does what the cop says.
Guess what, he doesn’t get shot.
This is what they want you to believe every police encounter is like for black men (except they were driving under the speed limit and the cop planted the weed lol). If every cop was this intimidating every time someone gave them shit, all those disgruntled inner city future college graduates would straighten up real fast.
I disagree. As soon as you try to cuff a lot of black men they panic like wild pigs and fight back.
Nor does he get kneeled on.
Not a fan of Cops. Also not an asshole to them. I treat them with respect, and I expect the same from them. This guy, who got pulled over, is just a fucktard.
*human
Imagine having actual criminals to catch, and along comes some fucking idiot acting like a fucking idiot just to be a fucking idiot on purpose, and now you have to arrest him for weed which you really dont give a shit about whether he smokes or not. Now imagine that every day for 20 years
Sounds like the officer should not just be an order follower. Downvote me away, but the police are not on our side. You're kidding yourself if you think so.
I'm not a cop, never been a cop, and grew up on the other side of the law (see username).
I often thought the same as you; "good cops should disobey bad orders".
But here's the thing: they have to be loyal to the chain of command, and their loyalty has to be on display.
My thinking here is that is an esoteric part of the reason for the existence of some of the more asinine laws. Also why departments have unwritten quotas.
If officer X is failing to write up certain mundane violations, it raises a red flag with his superiors who ask "what else is he failing to enforce"?
It's like the stories about rock stars who make bizarre demands in their contracts. If the venue doesn't provide a bowl of all brown m&ms, what else is missing?
Dude fuck off.
What do you do for a living? Fucking nothing. These people deal with dipshits like you every fucking day. You know how annoying you are?
I'm with you, I hate the anti-cop sentiment (and yes, understand plenty of them suck and deserve it). I've honestly had more encounters than I'd like to admit with police, and have always had nothing but respect for them. I (almost) always gave them respect, and all times except 2 they were nicer to me than they should have been (and 1 of those 2 times, I deserved I beat down). In fact, to this day I firmly believe a group of them saved my life, and I'd like to find and thank 1 particular officer, and 2 particular detectives if I could.
This might get semi-long, but in my late teens and early twenties, I made some poor choices and was a heroin addict for about 4 years. I've been clean close to a decade now, but during those 4 years I had a number of encounters (and arrests) with them. I was always polite (even when I knew I was screwed), and it always helped me out in the end. The funny thing is, the only time I got treated like shit, was fairly recently, and I was doing nothing wrong (not even speeding, as he alleged), and the treatment I got was incredible until I politely informed him I was going to begin recording the encounter on my phone.
But, while most encounters went as I'd have expected, I had more that stood out as dealing with exceptional officers who wanted to help, and I know it was only because I was particularly respectful, friendly, and did what they asked.
The reason I say they saved my life, is because a group of them, across two districts, genuinely went out of their way for me... for no reason, when they didn't have to. I'll try and give the story as quickly as possible:
My drug use had finally come to a breaking point, and I was finally ready to get help and stop. Finding a rehab/empty bed was literally near-impossible. My parents wouldn't even answer my phone calls at this point, and so I found a friend (who was using, but also helping me stay clean, as weird as that sounds) who let me stay over until I found somewhere to go. After about 3 days, I finally found somewhere. It was a Friday, and they could take me on Sunday. On Friday, my friend had to go to work, so he arranged for me to stay with his brother/at his house for the day.
I get to his brother's house, and we're basically just hanging out, I'm calling the rehab to find out more info, what I should bring, etc, and in between all this, I'm going outside for an occasional cigarette. During one of those smokes, a cop drives by. Then, he drives by again, and waits at the stop sign at the corner. "weird," I start thinking. I see him start to turn onto the street again, so I start trying to casually make my way inside. He goes past the house, and is at the stop sign again, so I think I'm good. As I'm opening the door to go inside, he backs up, and rolls down his window to get my attention.
"You live here?" he asked. "no, it's my friends house," I reply, as he makes his way outside and asks if something is wrong. "nothing wrong, we've just had a number of break-ins in the neighborhood over the past few days and just wanted to make sure you live here. You mind if I see your ID's?" The officer asked, claiming he just wanted to make sure we belonged to the house, essentially. I didn't know I had a warrant out, and hadn't been arrested or anything recently, so I thought I was in the clear. But I also always knew something like this could happen w/ any interaction with L.E. I told my friend quietly "I might get cuffed, not really sure if I have any warrants."
"Mr. ___[my last name]....." "fuck, see ya later, man," I say to my friend's brother, before responding back to the officer.
Long story short, he informs me about my warrant, I sigh and basically just follow his orders as he searches and arrests me. It's about 2:30/3pm on Friday, and I'm in the back of the cruiser now. We get to talking, and he tells me "your warrant's from [town about 40 minutes away], so I hate to break it to you, but you're probably going to spend the weekend in the state prison before you get to see a judge."
My heart starts racing. If I don't get to this rehab on Sunday, there goes my only chance for recovery. Long story short, I explain all this to the officer, tell him all the shit I've been going through, that I understand he has no control over this, but I am genuinely trying to finally get help, and won't be able to if I have to stay in prison until Monday. He radio's in to the station to tell them about the situation, puts the lights on, and starts speeding incredibly fast. The station is ready for me, they don't even strip me or put me in a holding cell at any point -- they literally just book me while I'm sitting at the officer's desk (I even help them when they say to each other "what district is [city where I am to be transferred] in, again?" and they laugh when I answer and say "sounds like you've been through this before, huh?"]. They also call this district to let them know about the transfer, to make it a speedy one, and try as hard as they can to get my to the judge before 5 when he leaves.
Thankfully, I'm being transferred to a town where the courthouse is. They literally managed to make this all happen in about 2 hours, and get me in front of the judge at about 4:55, right before he left. I got to explain my story to the judge, and he essentially keeps everything in pretrial, contingent upon how I do in rehab.
These cops, and this judge, saved my life. I'd love to find who they were and thank them, especially with everything going on today. They didn't have to go out of their way like this, but they really went out of their way. And not just out of their way, but were incredibly nice, helped kept my spirits up while I was sick, semi-panicking, etc. They deal with shit far worse every single day, and to them, who cares if another junkie had to stay a weekend in the prison? But they helped, and without them, I'd have lost my bed at rehab, and who knows where I'd be, if even alive, today, and without them.
I've got another 2 remarkable encounters with really great officers, about 5 unremarkable encounters with expected behaviors, and 1 where the cop was a complete power-hungry asshole to me for no reason whatsoever. Overall, I'll still always give respect, and if they don't give it back, at least I know I wasn't the one in the wrong.
What a story.
Thank you.
Of course! Too many stories and experiences, good and bad, I could share from this time in my life, but I know many of them can be helpful to others, offer insight into various topics/issues, etc, so I generally share them anytime I think it could be insightful/beneficial and appropriate. I'm generally about as transparent about it in real life, too, for similar reasosns -- and not just when I'm anonymous and online -- to help others, help kind of de-stigmatize addiction (to anything, not just alcohol+substances)/substance-use/recovery
Congratulations on your sobriety.
Thanks!
I'm very transparent about my past and talk of my experiences fairly often (when appropriate/called for, obviously). I do my best to ensure it doesn't come across as attention-seeking or looking for praise, and genuinely just tell them either as a kind of way to offer hope to others who might be facing similar struggles, or in instances like this (where it may speak to a related topic, like cops, the criminal justice system, etc). And to be clear, while I had many positive encounters with particular officers, judges, etc, I do also know from experience that our system has a lot of issues, which is why I went back to school to research and work in field related to addiction and drug policy/criminal justice reform. A lot of times, people are often harmed just as much by the system, for various reasons, as they are by the actual substance abuse (not to absolve anyone of personal accountability, either -- just a note on how much work there is to be done to create a system that actually helps rather than further harming)
Mega props on staying sober man, that's remarkable.
How long did it take for you to really feel like you got yourself back? Your true "wake up and hit goals hard" self? I hear the pull is always there on some level after it's been felt and most former junkies have to decide it's forever an enemy they'll be at war with despite the calls to seduce them when it creeps back up.
Most people don't realize the fallout of personal mojo and post acutes people deal with afterwards. Got a friend who is 10 years clean with a family and a medical career now after battling it. Guy can't speak openly about it at all without fear of losing his career path. Hard to get him to talk about it with me even.
The mental balance must be a really fine line to hold. Props for the long march man
Much appreciated. And yeah it’s a weird thing, tough to answer really. I went to a completely different state (and stayed there), was in a sober house for a total of (the first) 6 months, and stayed in their aftercare program with the same place for another 6 months (mainly would just piss test me weekly and do counseling). I had been to detox before this multiple times and it would always feel like time dragged on forever, and I couldn’t get my mind of drugs. But this time something was really different and my mind was really set on getting clean
My first month there was the hardest. I missed my family, my friends (the ones who didn’t use), I couldn’t sleep more than an hour a night at best, and I wanted drugs to help with that. What really kept me through was the kind of camaraderie at this particular house - it was more like a sober frat house. And around that one month mark, they held a “graduation,” for all the people that had been there a while: anywhere from 6 months to a year, and it really showed me it could be done, and that I wanted that. For what felt like the first time in forever, I set a positive goal: I was going to see this through, graduate from this place, stay clean and help others.
At about 2 or 3 months I hit what they call the “pink cloud,” and felt really great. I was going to the gym daily, had been moved to the next phase in the house (new house with more freedom/less oversight), found a job, and got approved to go visit my parents back home for 2 days, and come back with my car. By about month 6 I honestly felt pretty close to normal, but not fully. I’d just graduated, and moved in with two of the residents who’d graduated months before me and I knew could help hold me accountable with my new freedoms. I also kept that same job for about 5 years which helped regain some normalcy. I’d say I was about as close as I could get to my old self around the year mark. Just after that mark, I’d been working a while, living on my own, just met my (now) fiancée, and enrolled back in school,
But it’s all still a part of me, and I guess always will be. My mom still will occasionally break down in tears sometimes if it’s brought up or something reminds her of when I was using. All this time, she’s still terrified about “getting that phone call,” and I think that’s what sticks with me the most. And while I do think about using occasionally, it’s really rare now. I have dreams where I’m about to, and they’re so realistic, and I always wake up in a sweat right before I’m about to use, it’s weird. I’m reminded of my use less by my own mind or behaviors, and more when I learn that another friend (usually from this house, sometimes from when I was using) has OD’d and died. I know probably close to 30 or 40 people that have now passed, some were good friends.
Today, most of my issues are just regular, every day issues, and it helps having my fiancée. She’s in recovery too, but never really was addicted like I was and she seemed to more have gotten dragged into it by her ex. She helps kind of keep me on the level and would know immediately if I ever slipped which is good. So yeah, I’m in a good place now where I don’t think about it much, but I do have to stay constantly vigilant — I’ll forever consider myself an addict and know that one fuck up is all it takes; I’ve been to enough funerals to know that, unfortunately.
And yea I totally get where your friend’s coming from. I’m not like that at all — some are, some aren’t. I’ve done a lot of interviews with former addicts for my research and it’s always interesting to hear whether they’re transparent about it or not. Many are like me with no shame, others view it as part of a past that they’re no longer a part of, don’t care to talk about, and don’t want (or can’t have) anyone knowing about.
Look who is also an asshole and can follow their own advice for the two guys in video, lol.
I don't get the cop worship. Every powerful occupation has people that abuse that power. They also have a reason to have that power.
Cops are people too. Everyone is first an individual.
No one here worships cops, we just understand the insanity of their job and hate the spineless little faggots who think it's cute to fuck with them. If it takes an "abuse of power" to put one of those pussies in their place, I'll fucking take it. The last month has shown us what the alternative is.
Yup, rolled through a stop sign once and my immediate reply was, "Sorry I shouldn't have done that."
They turned into this guy ranting and raving about how I'm going to kill all the todlers in the area by rolling at 1mph through a stop.
Since he was being a dick I turned into a dick;' when he asked what I would have done if there were kids at the intersection what I would have done and said, "well, if there were actually people, cars, or anything here I would have stopped."
And that stupid fucking big-mouthed pothead was likely only the average douchebag that cops have to deal with on the daily .. imagine the real fucktards, even lower on the douche rung than this asshole.
Remember this douchebag?.
I hope Bill Clinton helped him get a better job .. Bill Clinton the Rapist, that is.
Patience of a saint on that cop.
A cousin and an uncle are cops. It's a hard fucking job. In my personal experience, you get what you give. When I was a belligerent youth, I mouthed off to a cop and got myself cuffed and put in a cruiser. Now I treat cops as I would anyone - with courtesy and respect - and they tend to respond in kind. I've gotten warnings for little things (expired registration, etc), that likely would have been tickets had I been a dick to them.
Same experience.
Now that is how to throw a tantrum. That punk in the car deserved it.
Blue Lives Matter.
"I was only going 60"
"Speed limits 40"
Lmao
Sounds like donutoperator
It was
What is lost in this video is after being an asshole the driver figured out it was best to chill out and be respectful of the officer. Ultimately he was left to go about his day even though he originally did something wrong. This is something the black community has to figure out, Don’t act like an angry douchebag when you get pulled over and you’ll be surprised how often 2 human beings will be able to work through a potentially stressful situation and move on with their lives.
And if he doesn't let you go, be a man and face the consequences for your actions.
Damn, I enjoyed that !
That's Doughnut Operator's voice. I'd recognize that voice anywhere.
This would be me everytime if I were a cop
Me too. It’s why I can’t be a cop.
Idk man, I feel like that guy might not flip of cops anymore. Nothing works better than authority raging on you and then letting you off the hook.
Or a school teacher
He taught that little shit a lesson his absent father should have taught him 20 years ago.
Unit
Sounds like that guy could have used this helpful video.
I needed that laugh so bad tonight!
It's....beautiful.
Respect to the Trooper. You enjoy your next 14 months of no interactions with morons like that. Have a drink on a beach after your retirement too, good sir.
What are you late for your job at NASA? LMAO
Donut!!! If you haven’t subscribe to him make sure to do so. He is a great content creator.
Normally I expect professionalism out of the police but I give this guy a pass and found this hilariously satisfying.
To me, jail sheriff, city or county cop deserve most respect.
I don't ever like highway patrol or state trooper. They don't answer most calls for service, very ticket heavy (prob quota to measure their productivity since they dont answer call for service.)
The guy was a douche to cop but the cop is also a douche himself. 2 wrongs dont make a right. CT state trooper seems like he got power ego problem.
Tldr for rant below: highway cops are sometimes literally highway robber.
I'm a traffic engineer working for the state and a damn highway patrol sneaking behind the woods pulling me over for doing "dangerous speed" on a country road with no speed limit. I was doing 55 ish and totally safe based on sight distance, glare angle, crash history, volume (aadt) etc. He said I was doing 75!! Based on the angle he shot lidar he could not possibly accurately measure me either (traffic engineer uses the same lidar as cop). In the end I did a whole engineering TIA analysis on that road and assigned it a speed limit of 65 before the court date. The cop didn't need to be there for any reason (no crash past 5 year, extremely low AADT remote road, good pavement condition etc) but to catch up on his quota.
On court date, I told the DA what I do for a living and that I would be requesting jury trial and he dropped my ticket on the spot.
Put his life on the line every day
There’s a version from a camera inside the car too. That’s great
\o/ make it ro retirement, I feel for him.
this is the most satisfying thing i have seen in quite some time.
Teach him! Nice!
This cop deserves a medal.
Gave me a good laugh. :D
Flipping the cop while doing 60 in a 40 and blocking him from catching someone else he was tailing.
I'm crying!
Wait, did the cop pull him over simply for flipping him off?
If that’s the case here, then am I the only one that has a problem with that?
While flipping off a cop is vile and something I’d personally never do, isn’t that still freedom of speech? Defending freedom of speech means standing up for even the speech you fundamentally disagree with.
He flipped the police officer off while also doing 60 in a 40 zone. That combo will justifiably get you pulled over.
If he really was going 20 over, then 100% agree.
ya, I from that area of CT - it looks like a "fast interstate" but the speed limit is shit, it is also a slalom course through there with exits both sides of the highway, quarter or less mile apart with merging traffic. goddamn cluster fuck on the best of days. after 8 pm its fine to burn through there fast, but goddamn 3pm till around 6... you'r fucked
If you watched the video you would have also heard the guy admit to doing 60 in a 40.
Remember never to provide police officers with admissions against your interest, such as telling them you know why they pulled you over or telling them how fast you were going. These types of statements are an exception to the general rule that hearsay is inadmissible, so admitting your guilt can be used against you in court. Good answers to "Do you know why I pulled you over" are "I'm not sure, officer." "Do you know how fast you were going?" "I was watching out for traffic, I wasn't looking down at my speedometer."
I couldn’t watch the video at the time, which is why I asked the question.
Happy to hear that what I thought is not the case.
Gotcha. Glad I could help.
At least where I live, cussing someone out is actually against the law. Curse and Abuse. VA 18.2-416. Since sign language is language, I’d imagine flipping them off falls under this.
I had the same question. Who hasn’t been flipped off driving down a highway?
Sure it might get ya worked up, but acting like a toddler, pulling someone over, handcuffing them, and then letting them go just to prove a point just makes this cop look petty.
Watch the video. The guy was doing 60 in a 40 while obstructing the officer from doing his job (catching another speeder)
Poor cops, man.
That was the most human I've ever seen a cop in my life.
My wife and I decided to have a little fun tonight and listen to the police scanner while we were driving home. We heard a code 3 from dispatch (dude with a knife) and we both got excited, then we realized that this is somebodies job to deal with this shit, every day of their life. Every day a different scenario, always dangerous.
Respect.
You want to run your mouth, you came to the right guy.
This was very entertaining indeed.
Laughed SO hard!
Did the cop not need permission to search his vehicle?
Visible drugs, gives automatic right to search.
Thanks, that makes sense. The pregnant manchild squealing about his weed card made me laugh. Times have changed a lot in 10 years
Have you never heard of the Patriot Act?
You can’t pull someone over for flipping the bird, the Supreme Court literally ruled on a very similar case a few years ago.
All the evidence the police officer found will be null and void, and the case will be thrown out. Additionally, the man could probably sue the police department.
Why are we advocating for bad police work? The law is the law and cops going against it even if it makes cops look bad ass shouldn’t be celebrated.
He pulled him over for speeding. Guy admitted he was going 60 in a 40. Officer knows this because he was speeding while trying to catch another speeder. Guy flicks off officer which caught the officers attention. That was what he meant by don't be a heatseeker.
Guys, this cop sucks.
Why? Because he’s reached the limit of his patience? Because he is tired of suffering insults day after day for doing his job protecting the community and keeping order? I don’t think he sucks at all. Certainly what he did wasn’t textbook...he lost his cool and will likely face some punishment. I understand why on both counts.
Dude cops can’t lose their cool. If you are susceptible to that you can’t be an officer. This is unnacceptable and unprofessional and he looks like a whiny bitch.
There is no human being who doesn’t have a breaking point. You want to hire a police force of Buddhist monks? There aren’t enough. He didn’t beat the guy up. He didn’t shoot anyone. He yelled at the guy. Maybe don’t go flipping people off, especially when you’re only doing it because you are sure they can’t do anything about it. That’s the real bitch move.
I know everyone snaps. The finger isn't a very strong catalyst.
This right here is the reason we need police reform immediately.
I cannot get my head around why people feel like the cops should be nice to them when they, themselves, act like dicks. It’s the most hypocritical, whiny thing to me. The guy flipped the cop off. If I flipped someone off—judge, cop, local drunk at 7-Eleven—I’d expect to be treated in kind.
So that's what your going act the next time you get shown the bird? Your going to run the person down ransack the car and scream at the top of your lungs? I doubt it.
1 year left until retirement? Do government employees retire at 50 or something?
It’s called a safety retirement. You make cops chase duche bags until they’re 65-70, they’d never live to see retirement. They pay more into the retirement system as a result. Government employees, especially those on a local level, usually have to pay to receive their pensions. Sometimes 10-25% of their pay goes into the pension fund, which is usually funded by stocks. The % is usually based on when they were hired and if the system is tiered, usually fewer retirement benefits to new hires than people hired 30 years ago. There are investment groups constantly pitching various investment options to retirement boards.
Not in the NE. Most of the guys retiring now were not paying anything into retirement. At least in my neck of the woods where it’s 20 years.
That's not uncommon. If he joined the force early in life he could easily be pushing 25-30 years of service. Even if he joined at 25, he'd be retiring between 50-55 years old.
Yeah, usually 30 years. But he must have a sweeter deal than that. That's why Gov't pensions always need a bailout.
Many cops get pension after 25 yrs of service. They can retire super early and do another job while collecting pension.
Sure is nice working on the taxpayer dime. Big salaries, retire early, get a lifelong pension that literally no one in the private sector gets. I know people who work for school districts and they do easy jobs that get paid more than I ever have....and they only work 10 months out of the year!
When private sector people start taking the same bullshit as Soldiers, Police, and Firemen, they can retire early too.
lol, fireman. They stand outside and shoot water at buildings and make 200k a year for it off of outrageous overtime pay while spending 99% of their time doing nothing. And then one year before they retire at 50, their buddies promote them because their pension is based on their salary the last year they worked. Nothing but taxpayer leeches. And they'll laugh and joke about it like it's funny how good they have it.
Police deserve respect but I have zero respect for firemen unless they're forest firemen battling raging infernos or skyscraper firemen. Your average suburban fireman is a total joke.
this supposed to make me like the cop?
Yes. you must be like the douche he pulled over.
i'm not going to let this sub forget the 3 months of mothers arrested at swingsets, joggers chased on beaches, people arrested for paddleboarding, and other shit indicating that when they're turned against us they fucking snap to and soldier up.
I recommend everyone keeps that in the back of their minds.
that said I hope these protesters get fucked.
Guy was being a dickhead while driving. This guy is a state trooper. what the fuck is he supposed to do?
and THIS comment just gave police moral authority over us. congratulations retard.
they don't have that. guy was breaking the speed limit so fine. he's not the boss of "being a dickhead". that's the whole problem.
Not all cops are the same. Not all cops enforced that bullshit. Not all states had the same EOs. This is a single human being who is frustrated because he has been shit on extra hard lately for doing his job and some asshole moron who was in the act of violating the law also decided to flip him off.
He also let the guy off and sent him on his way. I think we can use some context here and say was this appropriate from a professionalism perspective? No, but was it understandable from a human perspective? Sure. I found it satisfying because that dude probably shat his pants and deserved it.
Fuck those cops for doing those things, and god bless this cop for what he did here. It's not rocket science.