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Amen. Republicans keep coming in with too-little-too-late remedies, when the real criminals are running the lives of every day people with bogus charges and lenient prosecution of violent offenders
The governor instead should have the prosecutor removed from office and disbarred. And then charge the city for wrongful prosecution.
And then charge the prosecutor damages in the amount of the salaries of everyone who wasted a second's worth of time on this. From the balifs to the stenographers right down to the filing clerk.
Yup. Ideally a pardon would be used when the law and due process were technically upheld but extenuating circumstances made it necessary for a head if state to intervene in the name of true justice and/or compassion.
That doesn't mean you let someone fuck around with the justice system in the meantime just because you can later pardon out the results.
Content, cowardice, and stupidity (in the form of inability to grok higher-than-immediate-order consequences).
That is why these sorts of things develop very slowly. The American Revolution took decades, Russians lost the civil war to the communists (although, commies had massive financial support) which also has been decades in the making.
I suggest reading Eric Hoffer's "The True Believer" and "Mein Kampf" to understand our predicament a little better and have a better perspective on especially time frames and general public's reactions.
We are not in the 1918 Russian Civil War type situation yet, not the same situation. Open warfare is a lot more expensive than setting up riots via a network of subversives.
Did you know this fun fact: estimated 100k chinese mercs participated in the Red Terror in 1918?
From what was reported, the rifle was seized by a warrant and they wanted private security and was denied...also cops wouldn’t respond (I believe this was before the warrant when people were still coming to their home, on a private street that had a gate, which was torn down).
Being red-pilled means they've realized they were on the wrong side. They're speaking at Trump events now. Pretty sure they realized they were on the wrong side.
Did you hear his interview? He stated that he has been a life long Republican and had only endorse democrat individuals he had personal relationships with and a lot of respect for.
I bet my governor is sick and tired of reading me in emails, and the assistants sick and tired of me calling.
But w/e seems to be working and I vote, so...
I live in a Republic and if I’m taxed, you better be representing me if you’re collecting paychecks.
One of my senators seems to be listening, though.
The other assistant to my other Senators attempted to try to read me some politician crap statements. I reminded them that everything in that statement was already legal, and would like to know what was being done at the legislative level. Dude didn’t know. Totally not like I can read the website, look at their tweets and see news, tf 😂
Justified Use of Force is pretty much the same for police and regular people in Missouri. The only exceptions granted to law enforcement has to do with nuclear power plants and law enforces can confront someone and still claim justified force.
The DA is already under Criminal investigation by a special prosecutor for her witch hunt against the former Governor. It's just the current administration won't do anything hoping she loses her primary in August so they won't have to do anything like most of the GOP.
I was curious why not pardon them before they are charged. that's possible at the federal level.
looks like in Missouri, governor can't actually pardon until after a conviction. So that's different than federal.
mccloskey's would have to go through the entire charge, bail, plea or trial, etc to get a ruling all before the governor would be able to do anything to help.
(though its possible that this mere threat of a pardon would have a deterrent effect on bring charges against them, same as how a threat of a veto often results in legislature not bothering to move forward with a bill ... but not always, we know that sometimes they move forward anyway just to make a statement)
In an interview last week, Trump claimed that the investigation was a "disgrace" and that the couple had the right to protect their property. Parsons has also noted that he's discussed the matter with Trump and ways the president could potentially intervene.
In addition, Hawley called on the Justice Department to launch a civil rights probe into Gardner's office to determine whether her investigation of the McCloskeys violates their "constitutional right."
Hey, Justin, your bias is showing. Just say Trump stated the investigation was a disgrace.
Not enough. Remove the DA that brought the charges! Prosecute the DA for second amendment violations! Don’t leave the people at the mercy of tyrants like that.
Traditionally MO is seen as the bellwether state. As its election results produced the same outcome as the national results in the presidential election 96.2% of the time for the century between 1904 and 2004.
Counter sue them, we need to have a Conservative voice like the rest of the free fucking world. CLM Conservative Lives Matter, fuck with us, feel our Freedom all over you.
Let this be a message to everyone: if you are ever put into a position where you need to step outside your home holding a firearm because there’s a threat, you might as well come out the front door blasting because you are going to be charged anyway.
All that aside, the way the wife holds that handgun like a spraybottle really does bother me. And when she walks behind her husband pointing the gun at the back of his head my anus clenches.
If you have guns, you need to know how to use them.
But this couple are lawyers aren't they? If they get convicted don't they lose their license to practice law? A pardon wouldn't fix that. They'd still be screwed over.
Amen. Republicans keep coming in with too-little-too-late remedies, when the real criminals are running the lives of every day people with bogus charges and lenient prosecution of violent offenders
This we should not be fixing later we need to remove the problem now
Civil rights violations are done by far more prosecutions and judges yet never get charged. Always scapegoat officer
And then charge the prosecutor damages in the amount of the salaries of everyone who wasted a second's worth of time on this. From the balifs to the stenographers right down to the filing clerk.
Yes but pardons exists for a reason, another incredible foresight by the founding fathers.
Yup. Ideally a pardon would be used when the law and due process were technically upheld but extenuating circumstances made it necessary for a head if state to intervene in the name of true justice and/or compassion.
That doesn't mean you let someone fuck around with the justice system in the meantime just because you can later pardon out the results.
I’m assuming these two recently red pilled individuals went and got new and much more powerful pew pew’s.
Pfft - gun stores as far as St. Charles have offered them free ones (clever marketing). Of course they can afford to buy an armory themselves.
They should be up to their armpits in guns by now.
Yep! Also assuming as attorneys a nice lawsuit against the city for illegally confiscating their legal firearms is in the works!
Guns that all got lost in a boating accident. So tragic. Nothing for cops to come raid...again.
Don't worry Dan Crenshaw told me that red flag laws are good and would never be abused by the state
John McCain 2.0
Oh Christ did she support them too?
Everytime we see some terrible cucked idea coming from the white house or the campaign it seems like her husband Jared was behind it
She and Jared need to go enjoy being wealthy private citizens an stay out of politics
Look at the comments. You’re not pleasing these people.
Twitter comments are curated.
MUH UNIFORM
Nra said the same thing right behind him.
Username checks out
hell ya
Thats awful...I shouldnt be laughing
Content, cowardice, and stupidity (in the form of inability to grok higher-than-immediate-order consequences).
That is why these sorts of things develop very slowly. The American Revolution took decades, Russians lost the civil war to the communists (although, commies had massive financial support) which also has been decades in the making.
I suggest reading Eric Hoffer's "The True Believer" and "Mein Kampf" to understand our predicament a little better and have a better perspective on especially time frames and general public's reactions.
They do here too.
We are not in the 1918 Russian Civil War type situation yet, not the same situation. Open warfare is a lot more expensive than setting up riots via a network of subversives.
Did you know this fun fact: estimated 100k chinese mercs participated in the Red Terror in 1918?
Red flag laws are so stupid.
If something is serious enough to justify taking away your gun rights it should be serious enough for an actual criminal charge.
Its not stupid of the goal is a backdoor confiscation.
Yeah but the governor can pardon them for that too, and pardon the store who gave it to them.
Technically yes, so long as you don't deny others their weapons.
From what was reported, the rifle was seized by a warrant and they wanted private security and was denied...also cops wouldn’t respond (I believe this was before the warrant when people were still coming to their home, on a private street that had a gate, which was torn down).
Anarcho Tyranny is when rioters are allowed to roam free but people are arrested for defending themselves
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state#Anarchy_and_tyranny
They aren’t red pilled at all. Quite the opposite if you look at who they are and their life’s “work”
Being red-pilled means they've realized they were on the wrong side. They're speaking at Trump events now. Pretty sure they realized they were on the wrong side.
Did you hear his interview? He stated that he has been a life long Republican and had only endorse democrat individuals he had personal relationships with and a lot of respect for.
To second Jeremiah, being red pulled has nothing to do with your past sins. Let’s watch and see where they go from here.
what life's "work" are you talking about?
https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_name=mark+mccloskey&contributor_city=st+louis
Where has this Governor been. I guess he is getting some heat now.
I bet my governor is sick and tired of reading me in emails, and the assistants sick and tired of me calling.
But w/e seems to be working and I vote, so...
I live in a Republic and if I’m taxed, you better be representing me if you’re collecting paychecks.
One of my senators seems to be listening, though.
The other assistant to my other Senators attempted to try to read me some politician crap statements. I reminded them that everything in that statement was already legal, and would like to know what was being done at the legislative level. Dude didn’t know. Totally not like I can read the website, look at their tweets and see news, tf 😂
Good for you pede!
true.
She took out Greitens, the last governor, with a bimbo sex scandal. I'm sure this current cuck is afraid of her.
They spelled “defended their home legally with firearms that’s is their Constitutional right”, wrong.
Justified Use of Force is pretty much the same for police and regular people in Missouri. The only exceptions granted to law enforcement has to do with nuclear power plants and law enforces can confront someone and still claim justified force.
"Brandishing" = White people defending themselves.
Good idea - otherwise the next guns brandished will likely be at the Mayors / DAs / Governors.
He's not stupid (refreshing to see for a change).
The gov, and everyone, should go after the shit DA.
The DA is already under Criminal investigation by a special prosecutor for her witch hunt against the former Governor. It's just the current administration won't do anything hoping she loses her primary in August so they won't have to do anything like most of the GOP.
I was curious why not pardon them before they are charged. that's possible at the federal level.
looks like in Missouri, governor can't actually pardon until after a conviction. So that's different than federal.
mccloskey's would have to go through the entire charge, bail, plea or trial, etc to get a ruling all before the governor would be able to do anything to help.
(though its possible that this mere threat of a pardon would have a deterrent effect on bring charges against them, same as how a threat of a veto often results in legislature not bothering to move forward with a bill ... but not always, we know that sometimes they move forward anyway just to make a statement)
It does depend on the state laws.
PDF File: https://doc.mo.gov/sites/doc/files/media/pdf/2020/01/Executive_Clemency_Information_Sheet_1-1-20.pdf
How about we put that big gap toothed ebonicizing biatch on trial.
She’s an insult to us all.
What’s with all the big gapped teeth on these crazy broads?
How about removing the DA if she abuses her power by charging these innocent people with a crime? How about criminal charges for the DA in that case?
Hey, Justin, your bias is showing. Just say Trump stated the investigation was a disgrace.
Good
Finally a Republican politician other than Trump willing to fight back against the people trying to destroy America
Not enough. Remove the DA that brought the charges! Prosecute the DA for second amendment violations! Don’t leave the people at the mercy of tyrants like that.
Traditionally MO is seen as the bellwether state. As its election results produced the same outcome as the national results in the presidential election 96.2% of the time for the century between 1904 and 2004.
How long before the DA brings fake charges against him like she did to that last guy?
This was the same DA, too, Gardner.
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/st-louis-prosecutor-s-investigator-greitens-case-charged-perjury-evidence-tampering
Meanwhile they are disarmed and at the mercy of the mob, which was the point
HELL NO!!! it was his house and land period !! he can walk out any way he wants end of this!! (we will reduce the charge we have to show we won)
If this couple even needs a pardon then the damage will already be done. The conviction must be fought at all costs.
Police took away their guns. Police are not on our side.
"Protesters"
Nice! Checkmate for the antifa DA
Boom!!!!! WINNINGGGGGGGGGG 😁
That's big of him. Do they have to submit to anti-racist training and acknowledge their privilege first, Governor RINO?
Based
Its not brandishing after 200 to 1 or so.
MO is an awesome state but st Louis is a shithole with a rancid cunt of a DA. Maybe every great state has a shitstain city. Some worse than others.
How much is bail for them
Well yeah he would have to be because there weren't any protesters to brandish it at.
Counter sue them, we need to have a Conservative voice like the rest of the free fucking world. CLM Conservative Lives Matter, fuck with us, feel our Freedom all over you.
Fucking finally!
Yeah, the douchebag St Louis DA will still squander maximum taxpayer resources to make her dumbass commie statement against a safe and lawful society.
Get this guy a bump-stock!
Tucker Carlson gets another notch on his belt. Keep shaming ‘em, Tucker. It works.
Let this be a message to everyone: if you are ever put into a position where you need to step outside your home holding a firearm because there’s a threat, you might as well come out the front door blasting because you are going to be charged anyway.
All that aside, the way the wife holds that handgun like a spraybottle really does bother me. And when she walks behind her husband pointing the gun at the back of his head my anus clenches.
If you have guns, you need to know how to use them.
As he should.
This is red pilling the socialite democrats!
But this couple are lawyers aren't they? If they get convicted don't they lose their license to practice law? A pardon wouldn't fix that. They'd still be screwed over.